Strikeforce Nashville: Jason Miller sorry for the 'Mayhem' that erupted on CBS
by Jesse Holland on Apr 19, 2010 9:47 AM EDT
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"I would like to formally apologize to CBS, Strikeforce, and all fans of mixed martial arts for my role in the events following the Strikeforce: Nashville event. In retrospect, my timing could not have been worse to ask for my rematch with Jake Shields, and I take full responsibility for entering the cage and setting off a chain of events that cast a dark shadow on the sport. I've been a fighter and a fan of MMA for over 12 years, and would never do anything to intentionally tarnish the sport I've given my life to. In the excitement of the moment I let my emotions run high and made a bad choice that resulted in a debacle, for that, I sincerely apologize."
Strikeforce middleweight and host of MTV's Bully Beatdown Jason Miller formally apologizes for sneaking into the cage to demand a rematch against Jake Shields during the champ's post-fight interview at last Saturday's CBS telecast of "Saturday Night Fights" from the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville. Team Gracie didn't appreciate the antics of "Mayhem" and tried to teach him a lesson in post-fight etiquette with a group effort that led to a melee on live television. Anyone think his apology is sincere -- or a direct order from Scott Coker to try and save face? And should we hold out for a formal apology from Team Gracie?
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I didnt even see this until the next day
On Friday I was loving the Diaz Brothers. Dudes were taking pictures for/with everyone that asked outside. Kind of bummed to see they have such thin skins.
It was Mayhem being Mayhem. Nothing to really brawl about. Dude is probably also trying to cover his ass so he doesn’t lose Bully Beatdown either being that CBS is over MTV.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Apology accepted
now SF needs to have him fight Nick Diaz!
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
by PHISH NATION on Apr 19, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Naw
Give someone else the title shot for sure as to not reward bad behavior and feed Mayhem to Hendo. I really do think Hendo took shields lightly and that is not to take away from Shields performance the guy won and there is no doubt about that. But I would like to see Hendo shut Mayhem up like he did Bisping.
by Edgecrusher71 on Apr 19, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
strikeforce should receive part of the blame
mistakes are made and lessons are learned, hopefully. Scott Coker and Strikeforce have policies on dealing with people entering in the octagon. Many of you mentioned situations from ufc like gsp and hughes, rashad and rampage, you don’t think nay of it went through dana white and ufc. It was probably fabricated by them. All i’m saying is that there are many people to blame but the people in charge should be the ones that admit guilt and promise to try to do their part to improve the way the sport is preceived by the public. On another note, the camera work was a little better this time. Last time strikeforce was on cbs there was a lot of referee back spotlights….lol
by danDRAGONFIRE on Apr 19, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Need to limit the amount of people allowed into the cage after a fight
That was just excessive; there was no reason for their entire damn camp to be in there.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Best Fight of the Night
Things happen, national TV or not. I’ve seen my fair share of this in boxing, etc…fighting is fighting, and alot of adrenaline is going through fighter’s brains at that point in time. I thought all the fights were a straight up 5 rd humpfest myself, extremely boring. I was hoping someone would have dumped Gus Johnson for KO of the night.
Mayhem and Dan are boys
trainee and trainer in fact, doubt they will go at it
Mayhem is still at Quest?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
HE SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY ONE
Diaz brothers and the whole camp should be fined or suspended for this BS, so what if he asked for a rematch and his timing sucked, SF officials should have kept him out, that’s their fault.
As for the reaction to simply words, completely unacceptable in something that many wish to have a hold a higher public opinion of. This is suppose to be a sport, that law of the street.
Mayhem didn’t do anything, he came in there and got pushed by Shields and then all of those guys jumped on him.
Looked like a 3rd grade school brawl.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
He snuck into the cage, uninvited.
He should be suspended.
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
Nope. Not a good enough reason to suspend him.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Snuck into the cage??
If they had some policy against him entereing the cage or security there to ensure no unauthorized personnel then maybe you’d have a point. He’s not breaking a rule if they don’t even have one in place.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
he was hiding under the cage like Danny Davis' evil twin from back in the WWF days
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
AND
there’s got to be security, otherwise any random fan with ringside seats could just walk into the cage after the fight; someone has to be policing who’s allowed to enter the cage, this is a StrikeForce/Gracie Camp failure all the way.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
So who let him SNEAK into the cage??
Who wasn’t doing their job then?
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
STILL not a justification for anything that happened or any type of suspension. He is an employee. I find the term "sneaking" very misleading.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
So it would be fine if all 20 fighters from that card and their corners ran into the cage right after the fight?
They should all be shot and pissed on IMO. LOL
I was a really big Nick Diaz fight before the melee. Now I don’t know.
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
Come over to my side jay. We have been debating these guys for quite sometime now, and finally you see what I have said all along. They are bad for the sport.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I would not go that far but I do agree that the Gracie camp fucked up and deserve disciplinary action.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
the worst part is that they actually believe it was OK
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if I want to abandon him completely yet, but I will let you know MM_eh.
They are jackasses, but I usually like that. This time was annoying, but I won’t jump ship quite yet.
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
I jumped ship on at least Nate a very long time ago
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too, Mac. I gave up on Nate a few fights ago. I still laugh when he flexes at the beginning of every fight.
And yes MM_eh, they are definitely retarded.
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
Yeah, I agree. Growing up in a rough neighborhood is not an excuse to act stupid. I grew up with gangs and drugs around me and I don't act like an idiot for small stuff. No excuses.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Apr 19, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You were probably just like O Dogg from menace 2 society
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Dude, I am grateful that I got out. I made books, booty and boxing my best friends. That was a great movie, btw.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Rec for speaking the TRUTH!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
It’s because they are mentally deficient. What if Miller had been seriously hurt or killed. Would we still let them slide. The actions (Gracie camp street stomping) are what should be looked at here, not the outcome (Miller is fine). They should be disciplined for sure.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
They also played into many of the MMA critics with their antics
This is 100 times worse than what Brock did, I wonder what all the Brock critics think about these guys hey Carwin LOL?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Great point.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Honestly though as far as MMA goes they're lucky this is all there is to talk about
I mean look at boxing, Tyson biting someone’s ear off; Ali retiring with parkinsons, then just recently Edwin Valero 27-0 exciting fighter, kills his wife then hangs himself in jail.
So yea, if this is all we ahve to bitch about as MMA fans right now; it’s not that bad.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point, but really no excuse (not that you are trying to provide one). I think they should receive suspensions (if I was Dana I would boot Nate…pun intended), and change the policy on who is allowed in the ring after fights.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
And unfortunately, that is one of the main reasons why MMA is over boxing right now.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah, I've lost a lot of repspect for him over the years.
He seems hell-bent on being a “bad ass” rather than a professional fighter.
Calu
Nobody "sneaks" in to the cage.
Security let him in the cage. Let’s see if an average fan can sneak it the cage. It’ll never happen.
Why'd you miss it? Trying to rush out to the bar or something?
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
LOL!!!
Dude, I was like “How the fuck did this guy guess?”
Then I read who wrote it. LOL!!!
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
LMAO
That’s awesome. You owe me a beer, btw.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
I accept it
We have only seen maybe 2-3 brawls after fights in north America on this stage. Mayhem didnt really do anything wrong but, hype a match with Shields, team gracie just used it as an exuce to fight. Mayhem really did nothing wrong in my books. His adrenaline was running high and saw a golden chance, Shields had no problem but, Melendez did. Shields/Mayhem/Melendez should all loose purse money about 5% each would do just.
by ThePunisher on Apr 19, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Such a stupidness. He could be fired for that. MMA isn't valetudo anymore. It's a milinaire sport growing to the top.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
Guys come into the cage all the time asking for fights.
Its team Gracie who needs to apologize. where is their dicipline?
I know!
I don’t think Mayhem should be the one appoligizing at all. Team Gracie should be apoligizing, bunch of thugs going after one guy.
i find it funny...
that people are putting so much of this on Miller’s shoulders…..yeah the guy made a mistake, but it didn’t warrant a 5 on 1 addition to the nights card……..the gracie crew overreacted….
"Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most" - Ozzy
by Deathwishstriker on Apr 19, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Guys coming into the cage after UFC fights (GSP after a Hughes fight, Rashad after a Rampage fight, Lesnar after Carwin’s last fight, etc.) are planned and orchestrated. Dana White escorts them into the ring to make sure nothing happens. Miller coming in was unplanned and unannounced. With his personality and the Diaz boys being the Diaz boys, it’s not that hard to see how all this went awry.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
all he said was "Where's my rematch buddy."
"Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most" - Ozzy
by Deathwishstriker on Apr 19, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He walked up got right in his face and interrupted him. That is extremely disrespectful. He doesn’t do that there is no brawl.
it wasnt aggressive in any way
mayhem had a huge smile on his face jake even grinned..if the gracie camp werent such douchebags the brawl would never have happened
why were they all even there?
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
They were congratulating their teammate? Why was Miller there? They should all apologize but he is far from blameless in this.
He's damn near blameless after they attacked him imo
You gotta figure it was just a business move on Miller’s part; he was in the ring, picked an inappropriate time and it was rude and ill mannered but not worth getting attacked over. He’d just won a fight 1st rd TKO earlier in the evening; tryin to get his name/face out there to hype a rematch, you can’t blame the guy for tryin to make some $$ and make things exciting. Gracie camp went way over the line; but the reality is, this alone is gonna make a rematch between Shields and Miller marketable as hell.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed OD
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree after they attacked but if he had just waited 30 seconds or whatever it takes for Jake to finish his post fight interview I really dont see the brawl happening.
agreed with that too
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Was stupid moves on pretty much everyones part with that whole thing. They really should hold challengers outside the ring until they are called in to prevent stuff like this happening.
That's why the UFC is the premier MMA org
The #‘s speak for themselves, then you have this to punctuate the entire night. I’ve said before that I think SF is going down; and if Law and Order and America’s most wanted beat their #‘s on a card with THREE title fights on it then they’re in deep shit.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Better
Had to finish that one for u, there ya go pal
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Miller deserved the bully beatdown
The champ on tv getting an interview after just finishing the biggest fight of his life and getting bagged on by everybody in the world for weeks. Then Miller makes that statement out line in bad taste and showing total disrespect to the champ, and the team finally wasn’t going to let Jake get pushed around anymore.
by Dball on Apr 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Calling out someone on a rematch is disrespectful?
WTF are you talking about, fighters call eachother out all the time, that’s how they make fights happen. They drum up support, get the fans behind the idea and make the fight marketable to get their shot. Miller’s always been a character, everyone who watch’s mma knows that, what he did was somewhat rude but it was harmless; he didn’t say anything offensive to or about Shields, he asked for a rematch that’s it.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dball - you are grasping at straws. And I am not even a Mayhem fan, I think his shtick is lame, but he was clearly being harmless. The Gracie camp has a thin skin overall.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Why would they even think of giving Mayhem a rematch?
The first fight wasn’t close enough to want to see it again. But then again SF is out of contenders already, so who knows?
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
Yea they're short on contenders
And they probably wouldn’t have thought about giving him a rematch except for the fact that he jumped in the ring, took it upon himself to call Shields out and make the fight happen. That’s called initiative, it’s business and a smart move by Miller to get his name out there and drum up support for his title aspirations. It’s not like the fight wasn’t competitive either, Mayhem actually came pretty damn close to choking out Shields. And it worked, IMO he’s just moved a step closer to fighting for the title again thanks to the actions of the Gracie camp.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, how ironic.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Before we talk about a Shields vs Miller fight
Strikeforce has to sign Shields, Shields is a free agent and can very well wind up in the UFC leaving Miller against somebody a chance for the belt.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Mayhem was 20 seconds away from choking Shields unconscious
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Hendo was very close himself in the first to finishing it to
Shows Shields resilience.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Shields = crazy heart.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Strikeforce, out of contenders?
How could it be Jay? They’re a top notch organization. They have Fedor and everything!
Calu
Why is miller apologizing first?
If it was millers moment on the mike sure let him yak all he wants, but he was the one that started the whole mess and that’s why he appologized first. He understood that if he was in Jakes situation and somebody showed disrepect right after the biggest fight of his life, he’d do the same thing as the gracie boys.
He knew he f’ed up and appolgized to the fans first.
by Dball on Apr 19, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree. It sounds like he was ordered to apologize. I don't understand your POV. Someone asking for a rematch is somehow responsible for a brawl? Really? Break it down for me.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Read his apology again. Let me break it down
Miller says his timing couldn’t have been
worse. He understands that a fighter is in the sport for repect before fortune and fame. Respect is what drives an athlete, he knew
he showed disrespect big time and has taken the blame upon himself. If he has accepted it why shouldn’t you?
by Dball on Apr 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Asking for a rematch is one thing getting in the guys face and interrupting him in the middle of his post fight interview is just disrespectful.
And in no way warrants being attacked
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not cool with the group beatdown but to defend millers actions, saying “he did it the man way”. You must be joking? His timing was terrible
Accept his appology he knew he was to blame . I’ll stop beating a dead horse guys. BTW, I never liked the Diaz boys.
by Dball on Apr 19, 2010 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with ElStlkO/_Haze_ ( I want to share this quote, from a conversation I had on this topic )
~ If Jake was worried about his rep or the others were worried ..about his rep..then accept the challenge like a man, don’t be a punk ass and get your “homies” to jump him. In fact it makes them look rather unmanly to do that. Just my thinking, but is it more manly to look at a joker who comes into the ring and steels your thunder, look him square in the eyes and say “yah, next fight is me and you BITCH” or is it more manly to have four other guys join you in beating on him…Answer me that! and yes, the answer tells me alot about you. ~
shields didnt get his homies to jump anyone
mayhem popped up out of nowhere and got in his face and melendez shoved him and things just blew up from there. it wasnt like shields yelled “get him” or anything like that, he seemed as surprised by the melee as everyone else. and while i’m not excusing the gracie camp’s over-the-top reaction none of it ever happens unless mayhem sticks his nose where it doesnt belong and opens his big mouth as usual.
all he said is he wanted a rematch....
then melendez bein the bad as hobbit that he is pushed him thats when it kicked off
that camp is full of knobheads
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 19, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
bad ass hobbit*
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 19, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
he obnoxiously said "where's my rematch buddy"
when he should not have been in the ring at all. it was not a scheduled face-off ala Brock-Carwin at ufc 111. it was mayhem being mayhem and some people arent trying to hear his mouth all the time.
so when rashad came in an got in rampages face thats all cool then?
no cus for one rashad is professional and doesnt feel the need to start a brawl cus of words being exchanged its that camp that believes they’re all ‘gangsta’
nothin wrong in tryin to ask for a rematch jake wasnt even fussed he was smiling if you watch it…
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 19, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, if you watch it carefully a few times, it appears that Shields threw the first punch.
CBS actually showed the whole thing in slow motion, without the cutaway, after coming back from commercial. The bad ass hobbit does his attempted shove, but Miller doesn’t budge that’s when Nate chucks a water bottle and Shields shoves and then punches Miller in the head. And then he gets in another shot while Miller is being Gang tackled by primarily Nick and Nate. The worst part IMO, was when Nate was soccer kicking Mayhem in the ribs while he’s being held down bu Nate and at least 2 other Team Gracie thugs.
Not a good night for MMA boys.
by Canucklehead. on Apr 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
he put his hands up in defense...what I saw clearly showed Gilbert making the first move, then Nick, then Miller
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
They are all to blame, I agree.
I just think that Jake is not blameless here. If you get a chance, check it out again. Miller doesn’t really threaten anybody, he just kinda’ pops back up after being shoved. And Shields is the first punch I saw in the replay, right to miller’s forehead, that said, Nick was also in there somewhere, changing levels, so he may have actually laid hands first. I also thought is was funny that Jake actually goes for another punch as he’s Miller is on his way down, and as he’s being pulled away by some of his team mates.
Certainly a lot of emotion swirling at that point, and I believe Miller and the Diaz brothers are primarily to blame. I also find it funny that 3 Strikeforce champions were involved in that whole mess. Can you imaging that type of scenario occurring in the UFC?
by Canucklehead. on Apr 19, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Reason it won't happen in the UFC is Dana White
If you’re a champ holding the belt you might get away with an ass chewing, public apology and some threats. A lesser fighter would get their walking papers right then and there. White keeps his guys under control for the most part; looks like Coker should be takin notes.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sad thing he needs all the talent he can get
A couple fighters won’t make or break the UFC; but in SF Coker can’t afford to lose anyone with decent marketability/name recognition. He’s gonna have a hard time disciplining these guys; if he does anything at all that is.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
ya so when someones obnoxious just jump him with a group of guys
That’s how all earths problems should be solved. “Hey this guy is being a pest, fuck telling him to fuck off, hey boys, let’s just jump him and boot stomp him”.
Cowardly fukn pussys
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wrong Worby
Violence solves everything; remember that.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Violence and Beer
The solution to all the world’s problems!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
If I had to choose between the two I'd go with Beer
Luckily they tend to go hand in hand so I don’t have to make that choice.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i never said it was the right way to solve the problem
i said it doesnt happen if mayhem doesnt put his nose where it doesnt belong. just saying what happened is a plausible outcome which is why mayhem should have stayed in his seat. the gracie camp does owe an apology, i’m not suggesting otherwise
And the truth is nothing happens if they don’t jump him, which is what happened.
Use your brain.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
either way this wasn’t a biggie, probably gave the viewers some good laughs and a little action after all the one sided fights.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
And some good hype for a rematch between Shields and Mayhem (if it happens).
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
as long as its still free I'm good
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
With those #'s they'd be crazy to go PPV
the first time SF goes PPV will be the last time.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
yep...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 19, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
They know they can't go PPV
Strikeforce biggest mistake is buying out thes high priced fighters, they were doing a good job until they went after Fedor now Bellator is picking up may of the fighters SF could have instead of Fedor and Hendo. With Fedor especially having to co-promote and share the profits they don’t make that much more justifying Fedors signing. And having one bad event for SF is huge as they only have a hand full of big events a year and this one can turn out costly for them.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yea I can't believe they didn't pick up Huerta
Melendez vs Huerta right about now would be an awesome fight.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Fireworks!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Wow...Cmon...This has happened many times in many different ways...but never should a man be beatdown by a bunch of guys defending another FIGHTER.
words only…if they REALLy hate mayhem, fight the guy in a pro mma fight.
Team Pioli/Haley
if they really hate Mayhem
Shields could’ve grabbed the mic back said “I got bigger fish to fry” or “been there done that, get to the back of the line” and killed any hype for a rematch leaving Mayhem to the undercards or the 3 rounders.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree...this was shields' battle, and his problem as always is he sucks on his feet(verbally)
he hates miller for being on tv and has tried to do it himself, but lacks the personality…you can see why, he cant improvise
Team Pioli/Haley
Miller doing the whole," when do I get my rematch thing".. doesn't then make The Cesar Gracie Camp.. the LAPD.
I regards to the brawl? This is just dumb. There is no place for a gang attack on 1 dude.. in MMA or in the world. It just leaves a black eye on the sport. This would be like if GSP getting in Hughes face.. or Rashad getting in Rampage’s face after their fight and getting jumped for it. There is no place for this.. it can not be justified. There is… See More..0 respect or honor in a gang attack on one person in this situation.
It resembled the Rodney King beat down from the 90’s.. it’s not good for the sport. What Jake Shields teammates/ goons did was wrong.. It doesn’t matter if Miller got in Jake’s face.. or took the spotlight.. Miller did not put his hands on him.. what took place was assault & battery.. that was criminal.. it’s doesn’t matter where it took place. It’s just wrong. Now, just because it took place in the cage after a title fight.. it will be connected to MMA. Does MMA need that type of press? No
To add.. Scott Coker’s position is on this.. completely baffles me.. that Miller should of expected a brawl?? So that makes it right? If this is what Strikeforce’s position is on the matter.. it’s disgusting.
I have no problem with what Miller did. Sure a tad bit of bad timing when he came in but he’s only trying to build up a rematch. Shields knew what he was doing, was asking oh you gonna call me out and then all hell broke out.
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im sorry i blame the gracie camp the most
Miller shouldn’t have been in there til after the interview was over, but that’s it. Why shouldn’t he be in after that to ask a rematch? Not like they have a ton of legit’s beating down the door to challenge him. I don’t fault shields that much either because initially he just smiles, then within a split second he pushes him. But the “gangsta gangsta” comes from Melendez throwing the first punch right after that, and the ends with a top view in which Diaz throws a few, followed by at least 4 kicks to the defenseless body of Miller with shoes on no less. If I were Coker, I’d be having a big talk with the Gracie camp to see when their apology is coming.
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
they should just give them NWO shirts and let Miller start an NWO red. looked like wwe already that night so why not lol
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
just a theory....he won't be doing that any time soon...
the gracie camp currently rules strikeforce…….with Nick Diaz, Jake Shields, and Gilbert Melendez all holding strikeforce gold….coker is, and i’ve never said this before in my life, in a bit of a pickle here………what with three of his champs prison yard style stomping on one guy on national television……..
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by Deathwishstriker on Apr 19, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
it was entertaining though as embarrassing as those clowns were
Too bad Millers crew wasn’t there asap to pile in and even it out a bit. I mean how tough are you losers? 3 champs all pro fighters + + all on one guy? Real classy. Real tough. Real men. I mean maybe if Miller had called em all queers and then shoved one of em, but he didn’t, he wasn’t even aggressive, as he was dawning and enormous smile while he spoke.
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ceaser gracie
is it him holding nate diaz back in the pic?…..and nate still got a couple of kicks off……..i have often wondered how gracie has managed to bring guys like the diaz brothers to such an elite level……of grappling atleast…..
"Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most" - Ozzy
by Deathwishstriker on Apr 19, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
the diaz brothers are just dumbass pot smoking hillbilly inbreds
they deserve to be banned if i were mayhem id press charges and then see how tough they are when they’re in jail being made someones bitch :P ha
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by Rampagelangford on Apr 19, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
i thought i was gonna be in the minority here
Glad to see that most of you are sensible enough to see the HUGE fault the Gracie losers did here.
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
I dont understand why there hasnt been any talk about what kind of punishments are being handed out. If nothing happens then it makes a signal that its ok to totally jump someone as long as you felt ok about it before you and your thug lifers started handing out knuckle sammiches and foot bombs. I would see nothing wrong with some criminal punishment and maybe some assault charges and a little relaxing jail time
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http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's negligable because it happened in a cage between professional fighters
These guys get hit for a living, so it’s just not viewed the same. Miller could probably press charges but I doubt he’ll bother, it’s the fighter mentality, he’s just gonna nut up and move on.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I just think its bullshit. Maybe he should get his buddies together and give all of them a 5-1 beating for a minute? lol
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 19, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoa you can't call them hiilbilly's
That would be disrespecting them folks
by Dball on Apr 19, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nick diaz ever since hes come 2 strikeforce he actuallyyyyyy thinks sooooooo much of himself. hes brother nate sed in last post fight interview i thank my bruver nick diaz the best fighter in the world. iv sed this be4 an i wud love to see nick diaz get his clart busted by sum1 in the ufc. i wud say gsp but i dont think gsp wud giv him a painful beatdown. id pick thiago alves. thiago wud definatly 100% hurt dis guyyy soo bad tht he wudnt even ave dreams of being the best. mannn i hate nick diaz
Who cares – NHL and NBA playoffs are on. MLB just started and the PGA have their best tournaments starting. MMA is like poker and will eventually go away.
how do u a flag a guy boys?
Cause we gotta live one here.
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
guess the proper way to handle this is
..we all jump DJF hold him down and start hoofing.
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Finally you're makin some sense here I'm in
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most" - Ozzy
by Deathwishstriker on Apr 19, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree DJF. Poker became popular the year there was no hockey. If hockey hadn't had that strike Poker would still be a boring card game on TV.
MMA became mainstream on it’s own merits.
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
That movie was out way before poker became popular.
But, I love that movie.
GSP(ESP) is the most predictable fighter in MMA.
Nate is an idiot
Kicking a guy while he’s being held down on national tv…a literal idiot…
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
yep words cant begin to describe
swear to god i fucked em all except the 2nd one in from the left. choke on it
by daniel worby on Apr 19, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gentlemen go to jail
Bring charges against those idiots.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Apr 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Miller, melendez, and the Diaz bros
Have little to no class or respect for the sport that many ohers are trying really hard to gain respect for. Miller just straight up sucks at life, and I will turning the channel every time he decides to explore adolescent Jr. behavior. Miller would be better at playing in the Jackass movies. At least the Diaz bros can blame narcotics addictions for their ridiculousness. Thanks boys for chopping MMA off at the knees when a worldwide community is frantically doing it’s share in helping it grow. Sorry to Strikefordce, but please punish these boys or I will not be tuning in. Even at free, Miller and co. made something crappy out of a decent show.
by GodDamnMike on Apr 19, 2010 10:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
lol
haha its funny cause i could totally see miller being in jackass
Train with the fear your opponent is training arder then you!! lol-GSP!!!!!!
by the chubbster on Apr 19, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Miller did pretty good I thought for being so outnumbered
Pretty sure at one point he sprawled on one, landed a couple short shots to the ribs, then went for the single leg TD on one guy; didn’t get it but held on and toughed out some of the stomp kicks/rib punch’s. For a 185 lbs fighter vs 5 guys not too shabby. I’d have to give that one to Miller based on heart; Gracie camp gets a couple extra points for effort to finish but Mayhem kept at it and was outnumbered so I gotta factor in a Handicap and score it on a curve. 10-9 Mayhem.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
hmmm, since it was an unsanctioned bout...
I’m gonna have to go by PRIDE rules here
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Same here
Give Mayhem a bonus for breathing a little life into this card.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Who was the douche nuts that was punching to the spine. These guys are lucky no charges have been pressed…
by TapedUpPair on Apr 19, 2010 10:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yea really fortunate that Miller came out alright
If he’d walked away with a broken rib or a busted nose I’d say it’s law suit time.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Free country, he can say w/e he wants; it's his right to free speech
When they go putting their hands on him then they’re the ones in the wrong.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Free Country
I agree o dam, but sometimes if you see a dog that is tied up it is best not to go and pet him. Jim was going into the ring as a business move to promote a fight and just didn’t assess the situation correctly. The Diaz brothers have their own code the supercedes business. Some times it’s just best to stay away from the rabid animals.
by TapedUpPair on Apr 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats why rabid animals are shot...
They dont handle day to day life all that well with a foamy mouth and a new found aggression. They become untrustworthy and end up taking a bullet… or two. Same situation here. If a group of guys cant handle themselves in a civil manner when they go thru their day to day stuff, then they need to be punished and incarcerated until they can grow up enough to be civil in the real world. If they get too out of hand…. then they end up with an electric bullet or a intravenous one
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by enzo-enormous on Apr 19, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Enzo. And I am a big Diaz fan but they were really out of line. This ain't the streets, homey!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I would have the same opinion no matter who it was... unexceptable all the way
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http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 19, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the people who blame this on Mayhem either hate him or are blind fans of the Gracie camp.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You can't blame a guy for getting jumped...
I don’t care what he said (and didn’t say anything offensive; it was just the timing), words don’t = physical violence, it does not add up.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
OJR,
I dont hate Mayhem, as a matter of fact I think he is a very entertaining fighter. Facts are that he should not have gotten in the cage and stepped towards Jake like that. Im really shocked at how hard most of you are taking this, what do you guys expect to happen????
OJR,
I also am not a fan of any camp/team, I look at fighters as individuals that train with other guys to better themselves. Fighting is one on one competition not a team sport!!! though I do get that training partners and such are how individuals get better and become contenders. I just dont like the whole team concept in which guys wont fight each other because of it!!!!
Truth is their short on talent, and short on contenders
Mayhem was doing them a favour by taking the fight on short notice in the first place; then he goes a step further after a 1st rd TKO win and tries to drum up some hype for a rematch between him and Shields and give Coker and SF something to market. Bottom line here is the apology is coming from the wrong guy; human beings aren’t dogs, we can control ourselves and we’re responsible for our own decisions. Hell even dogs are held accountable for their decisions and put down when rabid.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 19, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
My point exactly
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http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Truth, OD.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I agree, you need to put down the rabid dog, but don’t be the smuck that goes up and tries to pet it. Jim just misread the situation. The owner of the dog (or dogs) is ultimately responsible. That is why Dana let Nick go…he didn’t want to take the responsibility for an irresponsible dog.
by TapedUpPair on Apr 19, 2010 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good God. Did you actually watch what happened?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
@ HeelHook
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
over and over.
He came in, got in Jakes face and a melee broke immediately. Im not surprized it happened, Mayhem was not in there for anything positive!!!
fighters have done this before, and have also taunted from the cage to the audience via Mic, same flippin thing
Also, Mayhem apologized for taking a beating…good for him.
those that say “he snuck into the cage…” ..ok, thats fine…but it doesnt mean he should take a group beating for it, this isnt fake, that mob mentality beatdown is absolutely ridiculous…shields needs to fight his own battles…
I would say Mayhem should get a rematch against shields…he just cant handle mayhem’s spotlight…its sad…
either way, Mayhem nor anyone else…deserves a beatdown for saying they want a rematch, no matter where its done(outside of a funeral…wedding…)
Team Pioli/Haley
You guys clearly know nothing about the Diaz bro's.
They are not gangsters and or punks. Nick is a serous athlete, regardless of whether he smokes pot or not.
Hey Jesse
Is this how i have to layout my fanposts if im quoting from another website? Cuz i did this article and it was deleted?
jason "mayhem miller sneaked into cage.
that is like parachute man just saying he was going for a cruise over ceasar’s palace!
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 19, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
Have none of you ever been in a brawl before?????
When 1 guy gets in the face of 10 others usually things dont work out to well for you. Has know one on this forum ever stood up for a friend or been in a big melee?? Seems wierd to me that most of you didnt like what happend. Christ if someone gets choked out in a fight you all ripp him for being a boring fighter. Unless someone is laying unconcious in the cage in a puddle of blood most of you are not entertained, so I have a hard time believing that you all hated what happened after that fight. MMA should not be immune to the odd brawl here and there most other sports have them now and then!!! How many brawls have we seen in a boxing match whether it is before, during or after the fight. This stuff happens all the time rgardless of which sport it is!!! Im surprized everyone is so shocked. Like I said before, if Mayhem doesnt enter the cage and start spewing off then this does not happen. For the blind its just as simple as that!!!
Umm K.
…Seriously though, I could understand what you are saying if infact Miller HAD went in Spewing off and Being confrontational, then, I could understand said rationale. BUT Mayhem DIDNT, he went in, unauthorized mind you, and ASKED FOR A REMATCH. Thats it, asked for a Rematch, which was answered with Jake an Gil Shoving him and Nick Diaz answering with this 
Now do you get why people are so Irate with what went down???
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