King Mo: 'The takedowns were there all day'
by Jesse Holland on Apr 18, 2010 4:09 AM EDT
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"Whenever I faked, he covered up and the takedowns were there all day. If you watch his fights he's never gone past three rounds. As a wrestler, I've been trained to grind and that's what I did, just grind him down because I knew he had no conditioning. I knew he'd fade because I watched his films. F--K [the haters]. Everyone's been doubting me my whole life. I've got the Bernard Hopkins mentality: It's me against the world -- and that's how it's gonna be the rest of my life."
Newly minted Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Muhammed Lawal talks about his dominating performance over former champion Gegard Mousasi in their five round title fight at Strikeforce "Nashville" on April 17. "King Mo" used a suffocating wrestling attack to stifle the offense of the Armenian, who never looked comfortable through the twenty-five mi nute fight and as a result, coughed up his 205-pound crown.
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yea they were
Gayhard just seemed to give up in the later rounds.. really surprising i thought he had a good chance to win with the first two rounds…I GUESS U CANT TEACH HEART.
MO def will keep getting better, I would of went perfect for this event DAMMIT DAN HENDERSON.
BTW who else wants to see Jake Shields sign with the UFC and fight GSP
Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Muhammed Ali, FEDOR EMELIANENKO
I don't think it was his heart
I tend to think Gegard is just a lazy fighter when he thinks he can win a fight he loses focus to easy and starts getting sloppy. I mean he dominated round two off his back, got on mo’s back at the end of the round then decided that was enough. Then he imo just didnt come out the next 3 rounds. From there Mo was able to get a decision and probs to him cause in my honest opinion i thought he was going to get finshed in a spectacular fashion. Off the top of my head by a trangle but hey Mo proved me wrong.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Apr 18, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
BIg up to
Sergio Martinez for whopping kelly Pavliks ass
Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Muhammed Ali, FEDOR EMELIANENKO
ALL DAY
yea its true. mousasi couldnt sprawl or knee for his life when it came to those take downs. there were so many and yet he didn’t see them coming. then mo, on the other hand, got great take downs, but after he got them what’d he do? nothing. he just kept getting slapped around by mousasi while on his back. weird. I don’t think anyone finished a match. too much booing, too.
wooooo
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 18, 2010 6:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
wooooo
all the mousasi bum boys can eat their words! I said mo would shock the world and look! Woooq
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 18, 2010 6:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
its not like Mo was devastating.
he got outstruck from the bottom for 4 rounds. im not eating shit. mo’s plan was takedown then put his head between Mousasi’s knees and pray for the round to end.
John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
well then Mousasi's plan should've been to defend takedowns and get back to his feet when taken down
talk about exposing an overrated fighter
Mousasi was overconfident in his ability to sub him off his back, I think.
Mo’s takedowns were the only thing that he had to offer in this fight. If Mousasi would have focused on trying to stuff takedowns and get back up, the whole fight would have been a clinch against the cage stalemate, like we’ve seen before from other fighters. Bad gameplan for Mousasi, but it wasn’t “exposing an overrated fighter” at all.
Geez you people are fickle.
John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
by Synyster_08 on Apr 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Gegard did fine imo
I feel that he did the fight perfectly. He took basically zero damage and got to rest the whole time while just repeatedly punching and backhanding Mo for 25 minutes straight. And the occasional upkick… he got about 5-8 of those in there while Mo did nothing at all. He got takedowns and then just laid there and took punches and kicks to the face… Not the typical winning strategy but it somehow worked this time
enzo-enormous
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by enzo-enormous on Apr 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so it turns out
muhamed lawal and gegard mousasi are both a bit shit, that was a weird boring lack luster performancall round- these 2 get murdered in the ufc – i cant believe mousasi was once considered a top 10 lhw, well at least losing to this scrub showed him up, and as for muhamed lawal, any other 205’er would have kod him or subbed him- ryan bader would fuck him up, dont even want to think what jon jones would have done to him on the feet, his standup stinks and he cant do damage to a fighter with any type oof guard – there were no winners in this fight only losers. anyone who watched it lost 25 minutes of time they can never get back, cbs/strikeforce lost a bunch of viewers and both fighters looked like shit. wahh
Paniczoo reincarnated.
IM A MAN OF MY WORD
i sad that if mo won i would come on mania & admit i was wrong & im going 2 do just that. I WAS WRONG KING MO DESERVES ALL THE CREDIT N THE WORLD PROVED ME & A LOT OF PPL WRONG. THEIR WILL B NO KING MO BASHING 2 DAY BCAUSE HE DESERVES NOTHING BUT RESPECT. as 4 gegard if this fight doesn’t prove that he blongs at MW i dont know what will. as i beleive that mo used his superior size & strenth 2 win the fight.
Superior size, strength and "skill"...
Gayhard knew what was going to happen, but had no answer for the takedown… Gayhard and his nutt huggers will soon fade away… This is America Gayhard, the land where wrestlers who kan stay active/busy on top rule… Anyways, I expect to see a lot of guys eating their words today, but so far all I’m seeing is hating… Its seems what’s good for GSP isn’t good for other fighters… So many haters, so sad… Kongrats to King Mo!!!
by DADEAL1 on Apr 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Superior size, strength and "skill"...
Gayhard knew what was going to happen, but had no answer for the takedown… Gayhard and his nutt huggers will soon fade away… This is America Gayhard, the land where wrestlers who kan stay active/busy on top rule… Anyways, I expect to see a lot of guys eating their words today, but so far all I’m seeing is hating… Its seems what’s good for GSP isn’t good for other fighters… So many haters, so sad… Kongrats to King Mo!!!
by DADEAL1 on Apr 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I AM NOT GOING 2 DISAGREE
with u zeke21 like i sad their will b no king mo bashing from me 2day. he deserves his respect.
MMA rules need to be changed. You shouldn’t win a fight based on takedowns alone especially when a fighter is beating you up from his back. Mousasi is still one of my favorite fighters but they both looked terrible. I’m OK with the result because Mousasi handed him the fight on a silver platter. My problem is that Mo did absolutely nothing on the ground. The scoring system needs to reflect the fact that Mousasi way out struck him even from his back. Mo controlled him but Mousasi destroyed Mo with strikes… this fight could have been a draw.
EXACTLY!
This is supposed to be fighting, MMA- mixed martial arts. N O T just wrestling. This looked as bad as GSP’s last fight. MO didn’t fight, he wrestled. It was complete garbage. Great your a good wrestler, but you’re not a good fighter, that’s obvious. He didn’t know what to do when he did get him on the ground, no gnp, no sub atttempts. Complete garbage! Change the rules. I watched the NCAA college wrestling championships last week. I wanted to see mma last night.
Calu
^^^^These two have it right^^^^
MMA scoring, especially over on this side of world, is a joke. This was Randleman/Rutten all over again, but MO did even less than Randleman did in that fight and STILL won. 10 point must system is a joke and so is this all-too-heavy emphasis on “control” and takedowns. Laughable. It needs to change and finally people (well, some people) are start to notice.
hard for a 'tard
^^^Those two and this guy^^^ have it WRONG^^^Effective Striking, Grappling, Aggression and Octagon/Kage Kontrol
This (^^^) is why fighters aren’t judging fights for major promotions and regular people are employed to use their un bias judgement to declare a winner… The average person kan see and understand this…
Fighters are allowed to use submissions or submit ppl from their BACKS… Fighters who were on their BACKS the entire fight should NOT win that fight, unless they kan end the fight from their BACKS…
Translation for the haters, its hard to show Effective Striking, Grappling, Aggression and Octagon/Kage Kontrol from your back or when your getting thrown around like a rag doll for 25 minutes…
It's not a wrestling match
The scoring system thinks it is. And it seems you do too.
Thanks for sharing though.
hard for a 'tard
what is is with you and randomly changing c’s to k’s in words you type? i’m normally not somebody to comment on something like that but it really makes you look stupid and really uncool (or unkool if you prefer). Getting to my main point though, like you said the 4 scoring criteria for MMA are effective striking, grappling, aggression and cage control (or Kage Kontrol if you must). Gegard clearly won at striking, just look at the numbers. You could also argue Gegard won the aggression side of things as well, because he actually was throwing strikes which is being aggressive. Mo clearly won grappling and control. So at worst for Mousassi the fight should have been a draw
by PhilTheThrill1808 on Apr 18, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Your points are very weak and lack kommon sense...
If Gayhard’s striking was effective it would have stopped King Mo’s relentless pace or at the least gave himself opportunity to get off his back… Aggression because he punched off his back??? His punches looked more like desperate attempts to try and keep King Mo from smashing his face into oblivion…
by DADEAL1 on Apr 19, 2010 6:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The takedowns were there all day?
Yeah but the fighting wasn’t Mo. DO something once you take down your oppponent. You didn’t fight much at all and you have a lot to learn.
Calu
Well he sure beat Gegard with ease!!
So when he learns all he needs to I guess he will be really good then!!!
They were...
…shame he couldn’t do more with them. Not to take away from his win though. Even w/out the point deduction, I had him winning against Mousasi.
HAHAHA
YES!! Eat it MO haters, I don’t see anything anyone can say now that their prince Mousassi has been taken out swiftly.
King Mo is definitely a legitimate threat to the 205 division, but
he needs to work on his stand-up defense. Mousasi landed some nasty strikes in later rounds, if not for being gassed, they could have ended the fight. If he improves he has the potential to be undefeated for a long time. Also, Mousasi wasn’t exposed…he went in with a bad gameplan. Mo didn’t exactly have the best plan either but it worked, he paid for it though…look at his face.
by Jon-Michael Herlth on Apr 18, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
computstrike totals, now someone please tell me how mo won this fight
by HellaHectic on Apr 18, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so let me get this straight...you can outstrike your opponent 2-1 yet still lose cause he takes you down?
and even though you’re on the ground you can still lose the fight even though you you outstrike him on the ground?
so you outstrike your opponent 2-1…both on the ground and on the feet…yet you lose? how the fuck does that happen??
My question exactly!! Makes no sense at all... Gegard won
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 18, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it was Mo's fight
He dictated the pace, style and positioning of the fight.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
Hey, at least he TRIED to pass guard.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
johnny by saying he dictated the positioning, do you mean he got to dictate where he was when he was getting punched in the face?
“well at least he got to decide if he was gonna stand up or lay down when he was getting punched”
that isnt really dictating anything…if you’re getting the shit punched out of you vertical or horizontal, you’re still get the shit punched out of you….
he landed 93 strikes in 5 rounds…what is that, 18 strikes a round? plus he never went for any subs….
gaygard landed 177 strikes in 5 rounds thats about 35 strikes a round…
mo’s in ring control consisted of which part of the cage he was gonna choose to get punched next
Well said HH
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 18, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that Gegard was fighting Mo's fight
The fight went wherever Mo wanted it. That’s dominance and that’s what won him the fight.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
What won him the fight was a broken scoring system
Positioning doesn’t finish fights. KOs and submissions do and if you’re not effectively doing either you shouldn’t score points. Guy Mezger has been saying this for at least a year and I completely agree. The 10-point must system is a hold-over from a completely different single-dimensional sport and does not work for a multidimensional sport.
That fight at its most accurate was a draw.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Apr 19, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
So are you saying MMA judging should konsist of "kounting punches"???
Dumbest shit I heard this week!!!
by DADEAL1 on Apr 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What is it with you and using K instead of C?
Honestly, it’s like someone giving a lecture on quantum physics in a tutu. No matter how valid their points, that one thing just blows away their credibility.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
if i was smart enough to understand quantum physics enough to give a lecture on it
id sure as hell do it in a tutu…and if my students laughed at me id be like….“hey youre gonna be tested on this tomorrow and its gonna count as 50% of your grade in this class…so laugh all you want at my tutu but when you flunk my class who is gonna be getting the last laugh?”
the little bastards suddenly wont find my sexy tutu so funny
you know you're having some good sex when you start planning what you're gonna say in the 911 call afterwards...
Haha if your students all failed then you'd have failed as a teacher and would get the sack
The only thing worse than a teacher in a tutu is a failed teacher in a tutu. Would be a funny class though.
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by David W-S on Apr 19, 2010 5:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yea i agree that mousasi looked like shit and is obviously overrated...
you would think that a guy training with the greatest fighter in the world (fedor) would have learned a few td defenses
It's about Ring control
Part of the judging decision is based on control. King Mo controlled the fight. The fight stats don’t tell the whole story.
No way is this a draw or anything. King Mo took his fight to Mousasi…Mousasi learn to stop a take down. Mousasi has a lot to learn about gameplan and execution. Compare this fight to the Sheilds/Henderson fight, Shields fought as a champion and won his fight by sheer will and determination to take the fight to were he needed it to be to win. Mousasi get a clue, you’re the champion, you’re not winning on the ground…take it to we’re your strenghts are. Oh…..you couldn’t….maybe you’re overratted then.
It was about as crap as I expected.
Strikefarce proved once again how crap it is! King Mo is an amateur and totally 1 dimensional and Mousasi is SOOO over-rated. There’s so many UFC guys who’d whip both their asses I can’t even be bothered to start listing them.
Total shit as per usual.
If you’re complaining that MO won, you are either:
a) Have Gregard’s nuts in your mouth.
b) Hate MO.
He won the fight, I don’t like wrestling either but if you can’t beat it that’s a flaw in your game. Gregard’s reflexes weren’t even good enough to have any sort of sprawl or stuff, he would literally just cover up up top and leave his legs wide open, no movement whatsoever. To me MO also exposed him as being a weak striker, not to say MO is good, but Gregard definitely doesn’t look like any kind of elite boxer, he looks slow and just generally unskilled. Sorry nut huggers, yall got to find some new balls.
Yes but
Gegard seemed to have focused more on working from his back than stuffing TDs.
Fact is that Mousasi was doing more damage than Mo when he was on the bottom.
Sure, Kino Mo seemingly dictated where the fight took place, but Mousasi won in EVERY position, including off his back. You really think a wrestler should be rewarded for staying on top even when getting beat up in that position? Controlling the position doesnt mean shit if you’re opponent is doing more damage than you in that position.
King Mo won a wrestling match. Mousasi won a fight.
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