The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11: Episode 3 recap and discussion
Episode three of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11, featuring coaches Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell and Tito "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz, gets underway and right off the bat there is a group meeting to announce that Chris Camozzi is getting kicked off the show.
Unfortunately he fractured his jaw in his elimination bout and UFC President Dana White will not permit him to continue.
Now Team Ortiz is in the position of having to fill a pretty big hole in his line up and has four names of eliminated fighters to choose from as possible replacements.
In their first training session since winning the opening fight, Team Liddell is in good spirits as they sweat their way through another workout. So far the team has been receptive to his coaching style and personality.
Trainer John Hackleman makes note of how cohesive their group is.
Back at the house, Charles Blanchard is giving a back massage but gets way too throaty in his play-by-play. Apparently some of the other contestants aren't digging the man-to-man contact either and start voicing their displeasure.
The next day Seth Baczynski gets called back to replace Camozzi because he "showed a lot of heart" in his elimination loss.
Coach Liddell steps up and makes his next pick: Brad Tavares vs. James Hammertree. Following the fight announcement things get a little rough in the cage between Nick Ring and Jamie Yager. It seems Yager was running his mouth and Ring took exception to it.
Ortiz tries his rah-rah team spirit speech but it doesn't look like it's getting through.
Both Hammertree and Tavares make weight without exception and both teams are predicting a knockout. Hammertree's style is described as "Fighting like someone is holding his family hostage."
We get a pre-fight look at Brad Tavares and both Hackleman and striking coach Howard Davis like his stand-up (sans inactive jab) and career potential.
Hammertree's preview reveals a five-second knockout on his resume and wants to put Tavares out on his feet -- but has no problem paying homage to his coach with a takedown and ground-and-pound.
Wow, fight is starting very early. Only scheduled for two rounds I have to assume this things goes to sudden victory.
Elimination bout #2: Brad Tavares (4-0) vs. James Hammertree (5-1)
Round 1: Inside kick and high kick graze for Tavares. Hammertree eats a stiff jab who then shoots and drives Tavares to the cage. Hammertree struggles for the takedown, gets reversed and ends up kissing the canvas. Tavares on top looking for the choke but Hammertree powers out and gets top position. Tavares works back to his feet and Hammertree wrestles him down but once again loses position. Tavares riding him like a pony and gets turned around. Hammertree on top but doesn't do a whole lot as they wiggle their way in and out of dominant positions.
Round 2: Hammertree bumrushes him to the cage, tries for the takedown and ends up in guard. Some wacky wrestling on display here. He powers up after escaping an armlock and eats a knee but Tavares falls down and Hammertree takes his back. Tavares gets to his feet and eats a knee. Hammertree drags him back down. Tito very vocal with his instructions. Chuck barely audible. Hammertree warned for spine strikes. Tavares working a Kimura but has no leverage and gives it up for guard. Action slowing down as Hammertree lays in guard with intermittent punches.
Round 3: Hammertree swings for the fences and throws an airball. Tavares with a nice jab. Hammertree has seen enough on the feet and takes him down. Tavares is gassed. Hammertree to mount but voila, Tavares reverses. Hammertree has enough juice to stay out of danger even though Tavares has a good hold on his arm. Unfortunately they don't do much for the last minute or so and just struggle for position until time expires.
Brad Tavares defeats James Hammertree via unanimous decision.
Following the very close decision, Ortiz tries to find an explanation for his second straight loss. Chuck is fired up.
Stay tuned next week as Coach Ortiz looks to rebound while trying to keep his team from imploding, an in-cage controversy sends both coaches into a rage and two fights on one show! Whoo-hoo!
See you next week!
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Tito
will be sent home.
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
didnt the preview at the end of last weeks ep
say sommit about jake having to leave as a coach?
Every night i would pray to God for a new bike, then i realized God does not work that way, so i stole one and asked him to forgive me
news:
interesting that Ricardo Almeida is dying to avenge the loss of Renzo against Hughes. He said that there is no fight he wants right now more then the Hughes fight! No doubt in my mind that almeida would beat Hughes!
jon Jones said all kinds of fans want him to face anderson Silva next!
Jones Jones said that? I want that too oh so badly.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
news:
Jones is the flavor of the minute. He is all potential but hasn’t proved anything by beating up on Bonnar, Vera, and Hammil who are all gatekeepers. How about giving him…I don’t know…. some one considered somewhat elite before you go rushing him into a death match with Anderson?
Jones fans remind me of a junior high school boy who gets his first kiss on the cheek from a girl and immediately grabs her breasts.
Slow down, tigers.
When Did Vera Become a Gatekeeper?
And again I will state it. Its not who he beat its how he does it. Jones threw around Hammil who has never been utterly demoralized in that fashion. He clowned a very experienced Bonnar. He ran through a former HW contender and a guy with lots of potential. Sure he is young but flavor of the minute is a bit overboard
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
SD didn't say his a gatekeeper, he's just saying give Bones some time which I agree.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I think Vera is a gatekeeper at LHW along with Bonnar and maybe Hamill
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
partially
Hamill hell yes, Bonnar….he would have been cut if not for his epic fight with Forrest…but Vera, I think he is better than a gatekeeper. and my point was that Bones ran right through all of them. I want to see him with a real challenge in his next fight…Thiago Silva maybe?
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I'm done with Vera.
The guy is all bark and no bite. His killer instinct is gone and he doesn’t seem to improve his skills.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
i agree
all of them have become gatekeepers.
for being such a devastating striker, vera sure failed to finish the glass chinned jardine.
vera has definitely lost a step. while i personally think he beat couture, that was one fight that he’s impressed in since he has been at LHW.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 14, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha! Thanks for the correction.
I completely missed ANS saying Vera.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Last time I heard it would be sometime in August.
Let’s hope the second season is as good as the first.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
as long...
as kenny keeps doing drugs and still pulls his jetski with his Ford Bronco, how could it not be? LOL
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Go back to showering with Jones, dude.
“Jones threw around Hammil who has never been utterly demoralized in that fashion.”
Except Franklin.
“He clowned a very experienced Bonnar.”
Who has been on a tear since. Losing to Coleman…yep, Coleman and Soszynski. Wheeeeew!
“He ran through a former HW contender”
Vera is 3-5 in his last 8 and the wins were against Reese, Patt, and Soszynski.
Wheeeeww.
Pull your tongue out of Jones’s a*hole. I’m guessing that is the source of your name here, Ain’t No Sunshine because you are up Jones’s a*s.
the manner in which he won shows more potential than the other people who beat bonnor, Hamill or Vera.
Your trying to spin the story to favor your dislike of a solid new talent.
+1 for breast grabbing
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Anderson would clown Jon Jones!
in my opinion
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Apr 14, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bones
flavor of the minute? You have to be kidding….the guy has unlimited potential in my opinion. He has all the physical tools that you cannot teach and the more fights he has the better he is going to be…is there a better athlete in MMA right now? I don’t think so, and he has a wrestiling pedigree…and I agree with ANS, Vera is not a Gatekeeper and he absolutely crushed everyone that has been put in front of him. Give him a couple more fights.. he is the future of 205.
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HAHAHA
“the guy has unlimited potential in my opinion. ’
I agree potential…but to say he is going to beat AS is just absurd at this point.
“and I agree with ANS, Vera is not a Gatekeeper”
I’m not sure ANS knows what “gatekeeper” means. Vera is no longer a realistic contender and would need a string of amazing performances in order to get a #1 contender shot. I like the guy and all, but he isn’t in the mix anymore. He is merely there to test up and comers like Jones. Jones got through the Vera Gate. Now a low level first tier fighter is on the menu.
“Vera is not a Gatekeeper and he absolutely crushed everyone that has been put in front of him.”
Loss–Tim Sylvia UFC 77 – Hostile Territory 10/20/2007
Loss–Fabricio Werdum UFC 85 – Bedlam 6/7/2008
Loss–Keith Jardine UFC 89 – Bisping vs. Leben 10/18/2008
Loss–Randy Couture UFC 105 – Couture vs. Vera 11/14/2009
Loss–Jon Jones UFC – UFC on Versus 1 3/21/2010
3-5 in his last 8 and the wins were against Reese, Patt, and Soszynski. Yeah, Vera is just spectacular. “Crushed EVERYONE that has been put in front of him”
I know, I know ANS trains at the same gym as Jones, and probably rolls around on him shirtless and probably showers with him but the fact is that Jones has only proven to beat the second level of fighters. From what I have seen, he is highly athletic and high creative but I do see where other fighters with more experience will be able exploit the holes in his game.
hey ass fuck...
you will probably never read this, but I meant that Jones has absolutely crushed everyone. My bad for not wording that correctly…but anyways, why all the hate for ANS?
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agreed
for christ sake guys, we’re talking about AS.
Jones hasn’t even fought a FORMER champ.
So give it some time b4 you consider him against the best in the UFC.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 14, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic but couldn't resist, and since I cant put it where it belongs (BE)
do you not see the difference
between not revealing what happens on the show — "no comment" "what the show and find out" and a fucking lie?
what a bunch of rubes and idiots.
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by Kid Nate on Apr 14, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
what a hypocritical piece of shit! i really dont care about BE banning me, but they basically banned me for same shit their head douche did here. he follows it up with telling the guy to start a fanpost about him being biased. he actually wrote a huge article crying about Dana lying to media, like he’s supposed to come out and give away everything that happened on TUF this season. yeah and survivor should just announce next season’s finalists right now too. What a fucking douche bag, hypocritical fuck tard!
by the way
go read the whole comments section in that thread, it’s BE writers vs. the readers. BE faggots are actually butt hurt that the ufc would lie to press and that “ufc fans are going to defend them anyways” newsflash douche bags, if there wasn’t a UFC, you wouldn’t have a web site. you still be working the french fry machine at burger king and asking your mom what was for dinner that night. “A simple no comment” is what they are looking for, but anything short of denial is confirmation. god those guys suck!
lol thanks for the second part dude...
I was just typing how I had no idea what u are talking about.. the first part was a mess
will check it out.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Garbage
This Tito soap opera garbage is NOT MMA!!!!
I’ll watch the episode for the 2 rounds of fighting at the end of the 1 hr long TUF drama-fest, but I’m more interested in watching the whole Bellator card Thursday night.
why?
I’d like to see why Tito goes home! I’d much rather see Liddell/Franklin then LIddell/Ortiz anyways.
agreed brotherwolf
Just leave bleed9999999 alone, he’s always roid ragin’ bout something. Don’t think he’s ever posted a positive post yet. His place must always be upside down, yellin’ around and smashing stuff.
“Mom! Meatloaf! Fuck!”
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by daniel worby on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol damn u figured me out
I fukn can’t stand that you’re gonna watch the fight only and like Bellator. Argh! I’m so angry!
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by daniel worby on Apr 14, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s going to be a snoozefest watching Liddell/Franklin coach.
Tito has a personality, these guys don’t.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
“WAIT! WAIT! HOLD ON ONE SECOND. JUST GIMME ONE MINUTE, OK? ONE MINUTE!!! ONE MINUTE?”
at which point he proceeds to make a man who just had his dreams crushed put his head between another’s legs and escape a triangle three times. Sorry Roberto but that was a pretty big dick move and Tito just did it to look good on camera.
And I have a moral obligation to society to beat him up. He is a dirtbag anyway, whether he went out there and shook hands and was gracious or he didn't. Who cares? I don't know why sportsmanship needs to be involved, anyways. It's a fight - go do whatever you want. So, yes, I will do whatever I want. And when my music hits those speakers, I will make that walk and answer for my words
-Chael Sonnen on Anderson Silva
agreed, pretty obvious
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Damn...
I am agreeing with frosnt1…damn.
I understand what Tito was trying to do so all you Titobaggers can save your typing. But the minute I just had my dreams crushed because I made a stupid mistake, I don’t want to be shown how to correct the mistake. I will sort that out on my own time.
Suck it ,Tito…good riddance.
Clayton embarrassed himself on tv.
He was whining the whole time, break the kid down to make him stronger.
If they don’t want to be taught then go home and don’t even come to compete on TUF.
You think it’s pressure to come on TUF? watch all the big sports then.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
I agree btw, it was a dick move but a necessary one.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
Hey douchebag...
There is a time and place for correcting mistakes. When someone is absolutely crushed because his future has been stunted may not be the best time for him to absorb the subtly of a grappling move.
Build him up when he can absorb it.
This is what I was talking about yesterday, Tito doesn’t have the intellect to connect with his fighters and train/build them when it will actually take and be valuable. All he is good for is repeating what someone else told him like a parrot. He did that move for the cameras. Okay, TIto…clap…clap…clap…you showed him how to fix it we all know that you know to get out of that move now. Now can he get his head together? Basically that was a wasted bit of “coaching”. He won’t absorb anything there.
Actually, he seemed upset that he got beat by a triangle, meaning that he knew how to counter that move and that it was just a mental error and failure to execute. Tito missed that and thought he didn’t know how to get out.
Tito may not be a douche to everyone like Rampage and Shammy (although he was to Abaddi) , but he is a horrible coach. The other just didn’t pretend to be.
so if it was a mental error? then it was absolutely the right thing to do.
putting him on the spot after that competiton that lasted about 1 min with Clayton getting out without a scratch was no biggie.
He lost before he even stepped in, when he hit the floor he was nervous as hell.
Just the experience of Tito embarrassing him should make him suck it up and come back stronger mentally. If not he shouldn’t try to become proffessional athlete.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
douchebags are good coaches.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
Really...
You thought Shamrock was a good coach?
How about all the a-hole coaches that lose all the time. The ones that are successful are the ones that connect with what will make their athletes succeed, not by “embarrassing” (your word) them on national TV in order to show that they know how to chow them the counter.
Okay....
Then the next time Tito leaves the cage crying (like he did with Randy and Chuck 2) I hope Tiki pulls him aside and starts explaining to him how to block and overhand right and how to perry a jab. I hope they do it right on camera, because by your logic that would be the best time to review punch blocking. Which is it, did Tito not know how to block a punch from Chuck or did he just make a mistake that needs to be relived RIGHT THEN?
Give it up, Roberto, you are just a Titobagger that is making excuses for the object of your affection. Stop trying to think your way through this.
Tito’s already been through 10 yrs in the UFC so im sure he’s learned those lessons before, and he still needs to work on it but not like that.
He didn’t try to teach Clayton the technique as much as he tried to make him suck it up which is more important.
Tito is not the guy for these guys to learn technique and skill from, they’d have to go to real boxing/bjj trainers and so on for that, i realize that but he is a hard worker with the right mentality.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
that is what he can give to these rookies, the work ethic.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
He tried to teach him to suck it up?
I am just trying to wrap my fractured skull around that concept. Tito certainly isn’t the one to teach these guys that…..or much of anything besides maybe conditioning drills.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Apr 14, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic
“I am just trying to wrap my fractured skull around that concept.”
I am going to work a Tito quote into a sentence everyday from now on.
I have a few to start with:
“World record contract”
“Dana White is my bitch”
“Payback is a bitch” (this can only be used when someone else gets the payback for me)
“Last of the Mohicans”
There are so many opportunities…. but I need a more. Please add to the list
I actually appreciated that from Tito
Dream was crushed sure but if he wants to get back and improve no better time then right then and there where he wont forget it
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not that i want to see Liddell vs Ortiz
i want to see Ortiz vs anyone who would knock him out (again) lol
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 14, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
he actually did a brief stint on TNA...it was promoting a fight but i forget which one
freenow82 bought a pogostick and named it hellahectic and bounces on it every night...what a filthy bastard...
If anyone has a live stream link, please post it here. Thanks
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Franklin Coach? HAHAHAHAHAAH
Didnt they hear the advice Rich gave Matt Serra in TUF4..???
To start the fight out on 1 knee? Rich is arguably the worst potential coach of all time… He’s about as exciting as Curling
See : Shamrock or Rampage as worst coach material.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agreed
Even just his whole Tony Robbins self improvement hypnosis angle would make for some interesting stuff. He would probably be a good motivator.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
STRIKERDAVE
I’ve been reading everything you say, and you have critical arguments in everything; However in your post about Jones beating gatekeepers, I honestly believe you should go on sherdog.com and look at the entire fight stats for Hamill, Bonner, Vera and O’brien even, you will see combined that they definitely have fought (former) champions and contenders who have also fought former champions and contenders. The fights were respectful. JONES MURDERED ALL THOSE FOOLS EASILY!!! He has what it takes and will be a champion soon. After you have heart and strength and technique that is advanced enough to fight for the UFC, it’s all x-factors for the champions, meaning, more genetically fast-twitch muscle fiber, altered agility from parents and grandparents heightened senses….same with all GREAT athletes…name um, Jordan, Bo Jax, Deion, etc etc etc…….Physically we all might be a little like 12 year old boys, but from your writing, you sound mentally like a 12 year old sage strikerdave!!!
Wow...
Tito really does think that Hammertree won the third round! Crazy! It’s alright to stick up for your guys but come on Tito.
i felt third was tavarres
But was totally surprised it went there. Round one sorta a toss up but round 2 was so definitively Hammortree’s its not even funny. 10-9 from 3 judges on rd 2 IMO. So what was round 1 scored? They all saw it Tavarres? I unno.
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by daniel worby on Apr 15, 2010 8:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For a couple of guys
. . . who fancied themselves as heavy-handed strikers, there was a lot of ugly scrambling and half-ass jitz going on in this prelim.
Yadi: The fastest of all the Molina brothers.
Yeah, 3rd went to Chuck's guy.
That was a great reversal when he powered out of the mount. Plus he used the kimura attempt to trap Tito’s guy and pepper him with punches. I thought the fight was pretty good.
Jon Jones
is the answer to Silva, hes so unpredictable and is just dangerous. AS will be so paranoid trying to counter punch heel get spinning bicycle kicked.
jon jones in my top 5 fav's
But its too early. Spider’d beat him almost guaranteed.
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by daniel worby on Apr 15, 2010 8:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
UFC 115
Just heard the Dash Tours ad this am on the local radio station (Regina, SK):
“Don’t miss out on THE BIGGEST card in UFC history!”
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by daniel worby on Apr 15, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
hehe yeah not really
I’m excited for Rothwell-Yvel and kinda looking forward to Thiago/Kampman. But the rest I could care less about.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
ya i really hope they air Yvel
And as useless as franklin/chuck is I think its gonna be a good fight, and ya thiago as well. But really, how can ANY card be the “biggest in UFC history” without Kimbo? It can’t be.
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by daniel worby on Apr 15, 2010 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone notice chuck during the fights?
What the hell is wrong with him. He looked spazzed out
sleepy
TUF 11 is starting to put me to sleep.
I’m DVRing it from now on to fast forward through the garbage to get to the 2 measly rounds. Thank god for the weekly Bellator card on FSN and HDnet fights.
I find it funny
Jake Shields hasn’t even been mentioned once. They haven’t even acknowledged his presence. You see him in background shots every now and then…but that’s about as close as you’ll get to knowing he even exists.
hes incredibly boring...look at mayhem's show, shields was by FAR the worst guy on there
in terms of entertainment..
plus hes a strikeforce champ, no reason to show him on a ufc reality show
Team Pioli/Haley
I agree he's boring
But really, its not like the assistant coaches get a lot of air time. But to completely ignore his participation is sort of messed up. I mean by no means am I saying promote who he is, but even though he’s far from being a favorite fighter of mine, I have to acknowledge the fact that he probably brought a lot to the fighter’s BJJ skill sets.

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