Donald Cerrone: WEC fighters are more exciting than their UFC counterparts
by James Kimball on Apr 13, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
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"Going to pay-per-view will definitely make a difference in the pay scale for our fighters. We're stepping it up. I think we should do it just like the UFC and Spike TV. Have a mix of free cards and pay-per-view cards. We're not the little brother to the UFC. The WEC is right there. We deserve the same spotlight. The lighter weight guys are just as exciting and just as talented, if not more. I think we bring a lot more excitement."
In anticipation of his WEC 48 rematch with lightweight champion Ben Henderson on April 24, Donald Cerrone talks about the WEC's initial foray into the pay-per-view market and the promotion's transition to more of a UFC-based model. Clearly, the "Cowboy" strongly believes that WEC guys are just as worthy of the attention that UFC fighters get. He's probably right too. WEC events often provide for great match ups with non-stop action. So what do we think? Is the WEC product unjustly overshadowed by their " big brother?" Or, does the UFC take center stage for a reason? What promotion do you enjoy watching more, Maniacs?
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anybody buying this ppv?
be honest.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I'm splitting it with some friends, so yes.
Prolly gonna come out to 5$-10$ each depending on how many people come.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Nah
I mean I might go in on it with some people or go to a bar and watch it for free, but I wont pay $44.95 for it.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
same here
I doubt the bars will be full for this event.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
i just hope my local bar even buys it to begin with
"you have received a warning...watch the homophobic remarks, seriously. you must hit 'ok' to acknowledge this warning and continue"
- MMAMANIA
as long as i can still say i hate the french and canadians from quebec its all good
I might go to a bar to watch it. Def aint paying for it!
where in this quote does he say they are more experienced then UFC fighters?
Nope. If 111, 112 and 113 weren't so close, I would, but if I did, it means the wife is gonna buy 2-5 new pairs of shoes.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
i'll be watching
but probably over internet stream. Faber vs Aldo will be a great fight. Thoughts on that one? i’m thinkin Aldo by TKO
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What a bunch of deluded UFC sheep. The WEC matches have kicked major ass compared to the UFC LW matches. Think outside of the box, people! ( I didn't consider the others because I don't have Dream and I have not been able to keep up with SF )
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I never said I'm not watching it but paying $50 is just too much.
they should have charge less than a UFC event.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
If they put on better matches than the UFC (which is a legit view considering the last UFC PPV), they have a right to do it. However, I understand the price tag being high for most people (including me).
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
This event will be goood maybe even great but,
the fact is there is not enough demand for a wec ppv event.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
True. The UFC is a well established brand, though. The quality of fights in the WEC has been much better than the UFC's lately. Remember, popularity does not always equal quality. Example : Kimbo Slice.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agreed OJR
Most people probably didnt even look at who the fighters were when they clicked UFC… Hansen/Alvarez was the best lightweight fight in years, way better than any penn or edgar fights
by xquisitewretch on Apr 13, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, I picked DREAM.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I’m looking forward to the Aldo/Faber fight and I’ll be buying it, but I doubt they’ll succeed in getting many buys outside of Sacramento
As for Cerrone’s comments… sorry Donald, but it works like this: exciting or not, the UFC has the lion’s share of the BEST LWs in the world. People want to see the best. They also want to see established brands, which the WEC isn’t. I scoff at the notion that Ben Henderson could compete with the top UFC LWs.
As for the lower weight classes, it’s true that they deserve more recognition — but such has always been the way of combat sports. Lighter weight classes don’t garner a lot of fan attention.
A lot of dudes just don’t care how tough you are when you weighed in at the same amount as their girlfriend.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Apr 13, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, well put
A lot of dudes just don’t care how tough you are when you weighed in at the same amount as their girlfriend.
Exactly right
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
i think cerrone is the wrong spokesperson here
i think he’s got a point when it comes to highlighting the lighter weight classes but this quote would’ve been better coming from benavidez or aldo.
formerly JB, trying to figure out this whole new SB deal. oh, and another thing; i'm not impressed by your performance.
Agree completely.
There is a certain point where I dont care how entertaining it is if it’s just 2 chumps (for lack of a better term) competing.
Not to take anything away from Henderson, its just by “chumps” I mean that I too scoff at the idea that Ben Henderson could compete with the top UFC LWs.
Scoff away, he would easily hang with the likes of Maynard/Florian or guida
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Can sum1 shoot me the results real quick
Won’t come up on my phone .
by d*locc on Apr 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cerrone has been in a few exciting fights
but he would get killed by the majority of the UFC’s 155-ers. There’s a reason he is where he is.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
No shit. In WEC he’s the No. 1 contender. In UFC he’s on the undercard.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
I think Henderson/Cerrone would beat at least a couple of the top5 UFC guys.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Top 5 guys?
No way. I would pick Guida easily over him.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Guida Sure But They Train Together.
But Cerrone has improved leaps and bounds since the loss to Varner and Ben Henderson. He has done exactly what I have been screaming for from him for a long time. TAKEDOWN DEFENSE!!!!
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Leaps and bounds? Really?
He’s only had one fight since Henderson.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
He Has.
His TD defense has improved greatly, as has his JJ game. His striking was already good.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And you can tell all that
based on one fight against Ed Ratcliff?
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
u train at jackson's gym?
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
some fighters are much better in the gym, they're safe there.
I do however feel like Guida is mediocre.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
Cerrone
is training with wrestlers much bigger and better then Ben Henderson. What Ben did in the first fight was stand in Cerrones guard postured up and controlled him there. Cerrone could utilize his BJJ and wasnt as effective on the feet. Not discrediting Ben but Cerrone has trained hard for this one.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
After The Varner Fight
I was like WTF did this dude not train wrestling at all? Why have great wrestlers in your gym if you arent going to utilize them? Then it really didnt change going into the Henderson fight either. My opinion was he felt like his striking was so superior that Henderson would take him down and his BJJ was also better. But before and after the Ratcliff fight I have seen a beast. He seems hungry, he seems ready and son of a gun all i see usually now is wrestling.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not saying he is a better wrestler
then Henderson, just that he has grown as a fighter and improved on his wrestling.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You Could Be Right
I am not totally sold either. Because while Cerrone has gotten better I am sure so has Ben. Bens the champ for a reason and I am sure he will be ready. But this fight will see alot more stand up. And thats where Cerrone can win this fight.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ratcliff was winning the fight
and could have won, if he hadn’t been hit in the groin 3 to 4 times.
i agree
and i dont see either of them being top 5 in UFC.
personally i think the fight between melendez and thompson was the most exciting fight in the Lightweight Division recently……
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Your Right
None of them have the talent that the top UFC LWs have however doesnt mean there not exciting and also dont forget they are very young and have alot of time to grow and develop.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
they are very exciting
henderson and cerrone are very exciting, but unfortunately not as skilled as the UFC lightweights.
Or the strikeforce LWs…… I think both Melendez and Thomson would beat up the WEC guys…..
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Now Yes
Just wait a few years for them to get better. There evolving.
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
lol ANS
You’re the most optimistic poster on this site. Admirable.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 7:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well Anderson Silva's gonna be on the undercard too. lol
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
That's a bit extreme...
I would love to see him throw down with Spencer Fischer, Sam Stout or Jeremy Stevens. Those would definitely be on the main card.
That being said, he is not top 10, but provides plenty of action.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
the one thing about Cerrone
is that he looks like a damn welterweight! i dont know how that would factor into a fight with say, florian.
as far as i know of, the UFC doesn’t have LWs that are the size of Cerrone. His reach must be ridiculous……
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a pretty low number.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Why o why couldn’t they have made this ppv 19.99 or 25 bucks..I think most agree they’d get more than double they buys they will at this price..from o to 50 dollars is a big jump..most hard working middle class want a lil lube before being bent over is all I’m sayin
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by salamagogo on Apr 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
funny stuff, haha!
most hard working middle class want a lil lube before being bent over is all I’m sayin
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
p.s
Dana you r a greedy turd
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by salamagogo on Apr 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I wouldn't mind seeing WEC champ vs UFC champ.
by HappyLittleTreez on Apr 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
I would love to also, but too many contenders at lightweight in the UFC, so no chance
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Henderson vs BJ (he'll be champ soon enough)
why? that would just invalidate the WEC…..
they have the best 145s and 135s no doubt, but the best LWs are in UFC and SF.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How do we know, if they don't fight? SF is different, but WEC vs UFC is possible, so let's do it!
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I want to get it
But probably wont as the guys I split it with aren’t interested and I’m not buying it solo. I love the WEC cards but more than 1 PPV a month is too much even for a group buy, IMO.
Funny Thing
Half you grubs say you love fights and MMA but won’t buy the PPV when this is cleary better then what the UFC has been throwing out there (with the exception of 113). This card is stacked with good fights and entertainment but I guess it doesn’t have the star power? You won’t buy this but you’ll purchase UFC 115 Franklin and Liddell. I don’t get it.
UFC is turning into the WWE – just wait until the signs and t-shirts of each fighter are everywhere. I hate all of you and will never post again. You are all phoney and post the same sht everyday – ie, he has no chance of winning, keep dreaming, what are you smoking, etc. Anyway, the UFC is getting soft and the entertainment isn’t there anymore. ‘Greatest fighters’ but why do most PPV suck? Word of advise, if you want to see great fights and watch fighters pour their hearts out, stick to WEC and Strikeforce. But again, I guess they don’t have the star power. It’s unbelievable how half of you are jacked about the potential of Gonzaga fighting Mir but will easily balk at this card.
At the end of the day, all of you deserve better then what the UFC is giving you. Too much UFC garbage all the time and not enough value. Anyway, again, I hate all of you and this is my last post ever.
Dana, you want a way to make up UFC 112 to the fans...
How about you make this happen… anyone who paid for UFC 112, automatically gets this WEC PPV for FREE. Sounds like an easy way to make up for that “embarrassment” of a main event.**
**I don’t consider it an embarrassment, in fact I was highly entertained by Mr. Silva and loved the entire event… well beside the BJ Penn fight.. that shit sucked. BJ looked like a zombie of some sort.
agreed
i actually found silva entertaining.
idk why though……
it was BJ who thoroughly disappointed me.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I know Leeroy that's what I've been saying from the beginning that Silva was entertaining...
I laughed my ass off in the Silva fight, great times. But then again I enjoyed the BJ fight also for what it was.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
that fight was hilarious
silva should’ve finished, and even though it lacked “fighting”, it was still entertaining.
Silva did beat up maia. And he put on a show while he did it. Great stuff.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the most exciting LW are in the UFC
The most exciting FIGHTS come out of WEC because the fighters are hungrier. They have more to gain by putting it all on the line.
UFC LW fighters are better than WEC
The WEC has really great fighters. To be honest though, I really can’t say that their best fighters are in the LW division. The Feather and Bantam weight fighters are very impressive to me, but their LW division is LACKING. I would like to see the LWs in WEC take on the LWs in Dream-that would be fun.
DO NOT BUY IT!
KEEP THE WEC FREE!!!!
DON’T BUY IT!!!!
plus
I can miss Aldo kicking the shit out of the Golden boy
Plus plus
All Henderson is going to do is try to tackle and hold. He is worse then Fitch, GSP and Shields!
i love WEC if you actually follow it on vs then you KNOW they are good fighters. Of course it will be more than what you want to spend on it, but hey, they are owned by UFC or I should say Zuffa. BTW Mayhem only wanted a rematch…what a loser of a “champ” man, I was actually going for Shields….Heno is OVER. I will buy the WEC and I will enjoy it. If you don’t like it…shut up and get off. WEC is a growing organization just like UFC was, and I’m sure that people said the same thing about them when they were blowing up too.
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