BJ Penn: 'There's probably a rematch with Frankie Edgar in the works' (Video)
by Jesse Holland on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
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its only fair
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ’s trainer:
we had long talks about what he was going to do and he wanted to stay 155 to make his legacy in that weight division. We are now just waiting for Dana to give us the call for Frankie Edgar again… I was talking to BJ and we are looking for a straight automatic rematch. We don’t know when but we’d like it in Hawaii. There is no moving up right now. That is not in our plans BJ wanted to have another fight in 155 after Edgar before trying welterweight again. I just spoke to him and he has no plans to move up again. We want to fight Frankie again as soon as possible.
F Grey Maynard....
Maynard = most boring fighter in LW division.
BJ is still the best LW in the world hands down. One bad outing does not change that. I say give him the rematch. Or, give Florian a chance against Edgar, then let the winner face BJ.
’’Apparently, the only way to kill a lion is by rear naked choke… Personally I’d just kick it in the head.’’ – Bas Rutten
hey dana promised to pay back the fans.....and putting gray in a title fight is the perfect hype and action we all want for the payback
dana says he owes the fans because of andy’s actions…well gray is our saviour…who doesnt want to see that wonderful guy in a main event title fight for 5 rounds?
maynard vs edgar headlining a ppv? i dont even think spike would put that on a free telecast cause i think manswers and 1000 ways to die would get better ratings..
i just hope that fight takes place in canada…please dont waste an american card with that garbage
"you have received a warning...watch the homophobic remarks, seriously. you must hit 'ok' to acknowledge this warning and continue"
- MMAMANIA
as long as i can still say i hate the french and canadians from quebec its all good
LOL, HH. Good stuff.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Correct Cole
I found it funny how he was texting Joe Silva right after the fight saying he was ready to fight for the title. BJ deserves an immediate rematch. To me it is just like Machida/Rua. I like Edgar but I hope BJ punishes him bad next time. And I don’t fault Rudy V. for what he said in an earlier thread regarding BJ’s condition at the time of the fight. He was only stating the facts. Is he supposed to lie when somebody asks him about BJ’s condition prior to the bout and say he was feeling great and 100%?
Bet the farm on BJ.
Much better line for the rematch. Will BJ be the underdog since Edgie is #1 in the world now? Ha ha ha.
Dimes to $s BJ would still be the favorite
Probably around -100 to Edgars even
’’Apparently, the only way to kill a lion is by rear naked choke… Personally I’d just kick it in the head.’’ – Bas Rutten
I'm having a deja vu...didn't you guys already say all this
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
PB said to tell you all that each and everyone of you know who the Real LW champ it
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Cole, if BJ is any less than -200, I will put a sig of your choice for a week.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
This is a great point
The odds would be close…Penn would obviously still be the favorite.
But Penn would come back determined, in shape, and hopefully without leg problems and health problems (if that stuff was true)…I would def. throw some $$$ down.
Just Do It
-Nike
agreed
he deserves his shot now, but i dont wanna see it.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't
if anyone, Kenny should fight Edgar first
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed Mac.
Kenny deserves a title and this is his only chance to get it……..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
that staph infect will hold him out though and I'm guessing whoever fights Edgar will be doing it asap
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That infection was mucho nasty......
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
i think Penn deserves a rematch, it was that close.
Kenny’s already had 2 title shots. I’d like to see Kenny vs. Maynard for the title shot. The only issue is that Kenny’s out with a staph.
MMA is Life
not bad
but i do know they are friends. not sure how close, but im sure they’d avoid a fight if they can.
BJ trained with Maynard for the Pulver fight and he picked him #1 on the show.
MMA is Life
It wouldn't bother me one bit if BJ was given a rematch.
He is still an incredible fighter and who of us would not like to see him again ASAP?
Yup...they should do it soon
Get Edgar out of there because I don’t think he would help the PPV numbers. Penn would have to come in shape this time but he probably would, considering he always seems to bounce back well from losses
Just Do It
-Nike
edgar should at least be given the chance to avenge his only loss.
and one could argue maynard deserves the shot
because he beat edgar
i don’t want to see maynard fight for the title, but honestly he deserves it.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
true
its only fair that maynard edgar happens first. But who the fuck will bj fight before a titles shot? How about BJ v maynard then when BJ wins he challenges Edgar. I dont want to see Kenflo Penn 2.
Fuck you! I'm an ANTEATER!
maynard couldn't even beat nate diaz without the help from the shitty judges
If BJ was still champ Maynard wouldn’t even be saying he wants a title shot
Detroit Red Wings = next Stanley Cup Champs. Howard for Vezna
i agree
but let BJ get his shot at Edgar, Florian vs Maynard for #1 contender.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I compare the BJ/Edgar dec to the Page/Forest dec
close fight but doesn’t warrent an immediate rematch
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Exactly
Good comparison Mac
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Apr 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought......
forrest won that fight pretty clearly actually.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you'll agree John but reference Page/Forest...same situation
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Forrest made Rampage look foolish
in their fight, Forrest deserved the W. Frankie looked pretty good, but nothing that took away the belt that night. I can only hope for a quick rematch, w Florian going after Maynard maybe.
yea, haha. I don't know what punches Machida landed that some think they saw.
Shogun blocked all of them with his incredibly tight defense.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
i agree
I actually thought shogun vs machida was more decisive then the penn/edgar fight imo.
dan hardy took a beating but he won me over as a fan.
by Phenomenal Angel on Apr 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
^^^Truth^^
Forrest clearly beat Rampage. Rampage only defended his belt once, he never deserved an immediate rematch. Penn dominated the LW division and his loss was real close, most ppl had him winning. I’d give him an immediate rematch.
MMA is Life
I agree
Penn should get the rematch…but IMO the result would be the same if he came in out of shape again. Edgar is a solid guy who can be beaten by a well conditioned Bj Penn but it would be another close one if Penn came in looking all pudgy again
Just Do It
-Nike
Most ppl had him winning?
Got any proof of that? It was a very close fight but I didn’t have him winning. That wasn’t the dominant BJ that fought Florian and Sanchez. That was the BJ that showed up for GSP. Lethargic (maybe due to sickness or injury). BJ will get another shot and deservedly so but I think Frankie should defend against someone else first. This WASN’T the Machida-Shogun decision.
Dood. This wasn't an election.
Three people had Frankie win… the judges!
that's cuz ur an idiot
how can you even say that? Forrest only won the 2nd rd. And even if you give him a 10-8 in that rd, the rest of the fight is still all Rampage. He landed the much harder shots. Knocked Griffin down in the 1st, took him to the ground in the 4th and slammed him, and landed some brutal shots in the 5th. That was the worst decision I’ve seen in my life. Vera/Couture and Machida/Rua are close seconds.
Rampage may have got his rematch...
If he didn’t turn into a fucking driving psychopath.
Shogun was the challenger and lost. Still gets a rematch.
BJ was the champ. He derserves a rematch more than Shogun. Period.
maybe...you sure your not looking at it through rose coloured glasses...I had Frankie winning 3-2. Forest beating Page 3-2 and Shogun beating Chida 4-1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
~
i had the bj/edgie fight 48-47 bj
i had the rampage/forrest fight 48-48 draw
and i had the shogun/machida fight 49-46 shogun
bj and rampage deserved instant remaches because the fights were extremely close..
shogun deserves an instant rematch because he beat the shit out of machida and got robbed on the score cards..
rua is definitely most deserving!~
by stinky~fingers on Apr 14, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I had BJ 3-2 Mac.
And from what I’ve read most here did to. Even some that hate him. That says a lot.
it was close BF...so close that you would need to watch it in slo-motion to really see who hit who...its not a big deal anyways...it doesn't matter who or where cause we all know BJ's getting the belt back anyways
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
and at least he'll be motivated...if its in Hawaii, BJ's mom should build an outdoor arena for it
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I thought they couldn't get Hawaii done because of the tax issue?
Oh, and no more outdoor arenas for BJ.
I thought the tax issue was resolved? hmmm. Maybe not. Anybody know for sure?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Ya I wonder if the outdoor arena contributed to his obvious gassing
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
called it
if shogun deserves an immediate rematch (when he wasn’t even champ), then BJ for sure does.
I personally thought Shogun won too
but not by much.
BJ i thought won, but not by much HOWEVER i knew something was wrong with BJ, he didn’t look right. The sickness makes sense, and he deserves the rematch…..
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Shogun won four rounds. But that's just my scorecard.......
and it don’t count for shit. :-(
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
i actually agree
i was rooting for machida, and even I thought he had lost.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I was 50/50, I like both those guys.............
but shogun won. Worst decision in ufc history based on it’s importance………..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
i had 3 rds shogun 1 rd machida and 1 a dead tie
If that tie of a rd imo went to someone, it wouldn’t have changed who I thought won, hell I thought shogun had no chance.
dan hardy took a beating but he won me over as a fan.
by Phenomenal Angel on Apr 13, 2010 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think one decisive factor with the shogun and edgar fights
is that they made the “invincible” champions look human. but edgar didn’t win, and i stand by that.
HOWEVER the Shogun/Machida and Page/Forrest fights are similar, because while i thought both forrest and shogun won, it was close enough were there was an argument for the other side. however, i thought the result was pretty clear.
Edgar vs Penn was too close.
and in that situation, the fight should go to the champ (penn). i thought he won anyways, and he fought a terrible fight.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
cause that dec was a lot closer than BJ/Edgar's
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun clearly won that fight............
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
yep...I had Frankie beating BJ 3 rounds to 2
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought so too
but machida will clearly win rematch.
at least i think so……
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed Dragon, he won the fans and the ppl. those 3 judges were in the minority.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
I didn't even think it was close, that night I thought he won every round........
but I was drinking, so I re-watched it and yeah I thought he clearly won 4. Just my opinion though……
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
happens to be mine too.
ppl seemed surprised by that, i wasn’t. It’s a shame he didn’t get the dec that night, cause this time around Machida might perform better.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
I hope you are right. WAR SHOGUN!!
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
I have re watched several times
and i always see machida winning the 1st 3 rounds with punches. He definitely took leg kicks but for the most part landed punches 2 to 1, so whatever. Machida will BREAK Shogun in the rematch. mark my words
then watch how he's reaching with his punches.
His body is not behind them, just arm punches. Shogun would see them coming from a mile away, i mean Machida tries for the left hand counter in all of his fights without setting it up, Shogun blocked and landed a devastating leg kick each time
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
thats bologna.
Your analysis is on par with Rogans for that fight so I will say good day sir.
Devastating means nothing if you don't finish or seriously hurt the other guy...
When being outstruck 2 to 1, it doesn’t matter the damage. 2 to 1 is 2 to 1.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
ie... the points add up.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
100% agreed Ulf.
I had Machida 3:2
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
+ Infinity.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
well, that's kinda the point Ulf.
Shogun landed many more strikes. when they had the stats it showed how much more active Shogun was during the fight.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
i agree
at first glance, it appears shogun won. but rewatching, i see machida win more and more each time.
it’s cause shogun actually competed with machida, something nobody else had done, and that made it look like he won, when in reality, all he had done is do better than everyone else. we just weren’t used to seeing machida hit.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Spot on, LJ.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+1
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Apr 14, 2010 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Take off the sunglasses..........
Let us see those big beautiful black eyes!!!
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
The problem with an instant rematch...
Should BJ lose again, where would that leave him in the LW division?
great point...Frankie beat him imo and can certainly do it again
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It would leave him in a great position.
Frankie lost to Gray Maynard, it’s not like he’s unbeatable. BJ has a better style and is more well rounded, not to mention his size compared to small guys like Edgar.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
How does he have a better style? Are you going to make more excuses for him RoB?
And it is funny because many people were saying that BJ was unbeatable at LW and that was why he should move up. Now, it is stylistic differences make a difference when fighting a smaller and faster fighter, but BJ’s style is still better. WTF?
When did pudgy, slow and out of shape become a style?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
yeah I am wondering what that means that BJ has a better style
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I think he means a more visually exciting style?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You are too nice for reading between the lines, OJR.
This guy has been spouting nothing but venom for the UFC, the Vegas commission and anyone who will actually pay attention to him because his guys have lost in what he pervceives to be bad decisions. While his opinion is just as valid as mine, I am tired of hearing the excuses for why his guys lost, not that they ACTUALLY LOST. He is worse than BJ’s mom. Paid off judges, blah, blah, blah. UFC predetermines fights, blah, blah, blah. No one had Edgar or Machida winning, blah, blah, blah.
THEY LOST. Get over it. Or, go put on your tin-foil hat and wait for the little green men to show up because you actually believe these conspiracy theories that you are speaking of are true.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I don't always agree with Roberto but he does have some valid points. BJ does have a better "style" than Gray. Gray is boring. Period. And I am not that nice. Just ask JJ. :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
your not still upset about that are ya? you are that nice, don't worry....hahaa
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
-1 for that post.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
oh ya?? +1. Stamped it.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
so your saying your NOT that nice?!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Nope. I make mean faces at babies and I order extra cheese on my burger once in awhile. I am a straight up badass.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Careful...see what happened to OJR's last foe!!
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
OJR smash!!!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
so you are going to argue that Edgar is a better boxer or bjj practicioner?
once Edgar fought Maynard he lost, and according to me he lost to Penn. So i don’t know what you’re getting at.
If you think physical appearance has anything to do with style then you’re out riding your bicycle.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
Style is opinion, wins and losses are FACT.
I am going to argue that Edgar WON THE FIGHT. It is fact, and your backseat driving and conspiracy theories are not going to change that.
I agree that BJ’s “style” in the octagon is prettier, but once again he didn’t work hard, lost a fight and now has his sycophants making excuses for WHY he lost. I give two fucks about why he or anyone else lost.
THEY LOST. WORK FUCKING HARDER AND DON’T LOSE AGAIN. MAKE YOURSELF THE BEST YOU CAN BE. IF THE BEST YOU CAN BE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH THEN HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH AND TALK ABOUT LOSING TO A SUPERIOR OPPONENT. THERE IS NO SHAME IN LOSING, ONLY SHAME IN NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH. and BJ never tries hard enough. He is the epitome of what I hate about America. (and I am American) When the going gets tough, have your mommy’s money bail you out, cry foul, or make excuses as to why you did not get what you wanted. Sorry if I have no sympathy for this POS, or you for defending him.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Good post. I believe in accountability for one's actions as well.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I wouldn't call BJ a POS
What is wrong with his trainer giving an honest assessment of BJ’s physical condition before the fight? Is he supposed to lie? I don’t recall Big Nog taking a bunch of heat from anybody when it was later determined that he was less than 100%. Nobody attacked him and said he was just making excuses.
The facts are that BJ looked poor and lost a very close decision. In my opinion they should fight again immediately.
And why does everybody always bring up his families money. Are you guys their accountants or something. I have a feeling that his families wealth gets blown way out of proportion.
agreed
congrats to Frankie, but there’s a reason he was a HUGE underdog. Against a healthy Penn, he’ll get smashed. He’s not making excuses, he’s giving legit circumstances. Have any of you tried to fight or spar sick? I have, and it is a HUGE factor. Lay off BJ, he has a good point.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
When his mother got involved in greasegate, BJ became a POS. Nothing he will EVER do will change that.
I respect BJ as a fighter, not so much as a person. Everytime I get my hopes up that this type of shit won’t happen, it does. He always has an excuse after not working hard. Do you really think sinusitis made him pudgy? Cry me a fucking river.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Don't know but what I do know is that
1. BJ demolished his previous 5 opponents at 155 in pretty spectacular fashion.
2. He definitely didn’t look himself that night. For what specific reasons none of us will ever know.
3. He lost an extremely close decision, one in which many individuals scored for B.J.
To me that would mean an immediate rematch regardless of who his mommy is or how much money she does or doesn’t have.
yes. rematch it is.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Adam T. I agree with everything you said, but DW has very rarely called for immediate rematch...
I think he should have to win at least one other fight beforre another shot. I think it should be Kenny/Edgar and BJ/Maynard.
I still have BJ at #6 P4P. I think he is a great fighter. I am just sick of hearing excuses for his losses, justified or not. You walked in on the back end of a common argument on multiple posts with RoB at the wrong time and only see me being a jerk-off. Hope we can have a conversation away from this post because you seem to know your shit.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Good post
I think BJ did a good job congratulating Edgar on his win. As for an automatic rematch? I remember hearing that as long as you’ve defended your title once you get and auto-rematch. In this case I’d agree because the fight was VERY close and could have went either way.
i actually agree with you
edgar used speed to “beat” a sick and out of shape BJ.
guarantee Penn smashes him in the rematch.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"and according to me he lost to Penn"
ROBERTO- Now that I get your style, this is a hilarious quote. You are a funny dude. You are saying that Frankie sucks because YOU thought he lost? LOL
I was wrong about you, brother. You’re not an asshole, you are a funny fuck.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
funny - ha ha, or just funny?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
it’s alright, Ulf i saw how poor BJ looked compared to usual and i did see how good Frankie was.
And I for one am getting tired of hearing this “new and improved BJ” talk every event, i mean comment the fight that’s happening right infront of you instead of telling the same stories over and over again.
I don’t like the judges in mma, that’s my thing, maybe it doesn’t bother you as much as me. But i will go on with conspiracy theories because it’s so fun seeing someone defend it.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
By defending conspiracy theories, you discredit yourself further each and every time you defend them. At some point you have to realize that you are the crazy loon standing on a soap box that is pissing into the wind carrying the “Jesus Saves” sign.
comment the fight that’s happening right infront of you instead of telling the same stories over and over again
If you are talking about how Shogun “beat” Machida or BJ “beat” Edgar, you are right, stop talking about it, history shows that both lost. Until they have a chance for a rematch, and I believe that both getting rematches are absurd, stop talking about it. I also believe they will each lose again.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
And if youare that passionate about how bad the judging is in MMA, do something about it other than bitching about it. BECOME A JUDGE.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Agreed.
Let Edgar avenge his loss to Maynard. Then he will handle Penn again. Probably more decisively since he will have more confidence knowing hes already done it.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
REALLY?
i think BJ could beat frankie fairly convincingly.
He should be able to take him down and beat on him to get a sub.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I just found a long hair from a girls head in between my thighs by my butthole. I hate when that happens.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
lmfao!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
it always feels weird pulling it out
But you can’t just leave it there? I mean do you smell it after? Perhaps place it on a buddies sleeping face?
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
THE LAST I CHECKED
it only takes 1 fight to win a title. A fighter shouldnt have to prove himself twice to convince everyone he is legit. Although I understand every situation is different, I honestly dont think Frankie should have to give Penn a quick rematch as i think he won the match more decisively than most think. He controlled the pace, got take downs, and landed better shots than BJ. just my opinion….
No Penn rematch!
I’m sick of Penn’s fights, either he submits his opponents or beats them into a bloody mess. And when he lost to Edgar it was an embaressment, he moved forward the entire fight looking to get into a brawl. It would have been more entertaining if BJ moved left,right and backwards. No rematch, I want to see more of that fancy footwork of Frankie against some fresh meat.
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"I’m sick of Penn’s fights, either he submits his opponents or beats them into a bloody mess."
I don’t get that.
MMA is Life
lol funny shit
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Hey two_words, I've got one word for you
SARCASM.
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2 words actually
Epic Fail
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Yeah your right, I failed.
While you two were mystified by a joke that my 11 yr old boy would get.
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
9 words here...Sarcasm does not translate well in writing without *sarcasm*.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Wow you joined the shortbus too
Do I realy have to post the dictionary here to to explain what sarcasm means, really?
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
please do dbag...I mean dball
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Got me good there
I’ll spare the English lesson for you, and let the river flow.
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
don't take it too hard, you'll be ok.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
water under the bridge
we all know what sarcasm means, and OJR is right, it doesn’t translate well. you have to be careful not to sound foolish when tryin to be sarcastic.
MMA is Life
I may be alot of things but stupid is not one of them. Take it easy before I have to make an orphan out your child. *sarcasm*
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
So is the “sarcasm” in the first sentence or the second one?
See I’m getting the hang of it.
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Second, because that will obviously NEVER happen.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
prime example of sport vs entertainment
We all kno grey is most worthy of a title shot..but nobody wants to see it..so is it really a sport if the most worthy is denied a shot due to lack of excitement? Isn’t that a little..unsportsmanlike….I guess it is and will always remain a hybrid..I love it either way
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by salamagogo on Apr 13, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Come on..
Of course BJ deserves an immediate re-match. One judge had it 50-45..that is a completely ridiculous decision loss.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
R.I.P. Dime.
BJ
could beat Gray and Frank on the same night if need be.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
R.I.P. Dime.
Biased opinion
i watched the fight three times, It was more in favor for BJ than it was for Machida against Rua, and Dana White said “you goota beat the champ to take the belt,” and he knows Frankie didn’t actually beat up the champ.
Thats true Two words
But BJ was not BJ, I’m not a fan of him, but I can tell he didn’t look physically like he did against Diego, he was chubby
i think he won that fight, but the judges disagreed
and it was too close to argue against. but the scores were ridiculous. he did look off, but i always say “you fight as you are”. if you accept a fight, no excuses after.
MMA is Life
100% he should get the rematch.
When sera kicked gsp’s ass he got a rematch straight away, Frankie barley beat what could be an ill bj so i say give him a rematch asap so bj can knock him out and we can all forget that a smurf ever held the light weight belt
nope
he had to fight koscheck and then hughes after the serra loss
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Well he only HAD to fight Koscheck and got the nod right after...
But Serra was injured so he fought Hughes again.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
and beat him like a red-headed step child
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
lol nice analogy
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
i do agree id like to see a rematch tho
if it happens maybe bj will take him down,like he should have on sat
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
I say let Frankie enjoy the fruits of his labour
let the guy do a few tours, bang a few chicks, party it up…then he can give Penn his belt back later this year.
MMA is Life
Too close to call
I’m not a fan of inst rematches unless there is a hugely poor decision like Shogun/Machida…that was blatant robbery…even if I did give Machida 2 rounds. I had BJ winning 3-2 but it was close enough that it wasn’t a huge upset moment. I would let frankie defend but not against maynard who would win by suffocation!!
Let Edgar and Maynard fight it out and have BJ fight Kflo in a non title fight
But really the man has won how many in a row why not give him the benefit of the doubt about being sick and give him a immediate shot in what was such a close fight?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
kenflo deservese the title shot more than maynard
florian has been finishing opponents, maynard has barely been sqeaking out decisions over lower profile opponents
imo florian vs edgar and bj vs maynard
winner of those two fight eachother. and losers of those two fight eachother
by themmahl.com on Apr 13, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
like your idea
The thing is; Bj just had his chance and he lost. I love it when a fighter loses and they say: “Man, I know I can beat him, I want a rematch” Well, you just had your chance, now get in the back of the line and give someone else a shot.
Calu
Gimme a Break
Why does BJ deserve an automatic rematch? Because the little BJ fans can believe their boyfriend lost??? Spare me, BJ lost, get over it.
Don’t make excuses as they look silly. When I told you BJ would gas, I was told with the Marinovich’s this was his best camp ever. BJ told us he didn’t overlook Edgar and folks who saw BJ after the fight were laughing at the idea of a sinus infection. Guys were saying he only thing BJ suffered from was a severe case of ass-whoop-itis.
BJ will never, ever beat Edgar. Frankie will gas him everytime. BJ Penn will never match Frankie’s cardio and conditioning.
Give Florian or Maynard a shot this time. BJ lost and there is no need to step over other worthy contenders because the Penn fans are whining.
by NJMMAFan on Apr 13, 2010 7:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
"Why does BJ deserve an automatic rematch?"
NJ you sound worried
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Fighting talk!
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Apr 14, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
And I will take that bet
Even though I know you will pull a Pretty Lala thing.
The indisputable fact is Penn was defeated by a superior athlete and his pudgy ass will get beaten 10 out of 10 times. BJ Penn will never achieve the conditioning levels of Edgar. Bet on it.
by NJMMAFan on Apr 14, 2010 7:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why does BJ Penn deserve an automatic rematch?
BJ deserves an automatic rematch because he IS the lightweight decision. Would anyone give two shits about seeing an Edgar/Florian main event? Maybe one shit, but not two shits. Definitely not two shits.
Penn is a legend, an enigma, people love that shit and want to see characters like that not only win, but dominate. People NEED someone to raise up to legendary or heroic status, it’s what we do. This is no different, and it is genuinely believed that he is a legend.
Verdict: Automatic Rematch
Spoken Like
A true Penn fan.
What no one is talking about is how the “greatest lightweight in the history of civilization” not only couldn’t finish Edgar but was bloodied by Edgar and the only takedown of the night belonged to Edgar.
Can we begin the excuse list for when Edgar beats Penn and his soft midsection once again?
BJ Penn came into the Octagon out of shape and I’ll prepared to defend his title. How does that behavior earn him an automatic rematch aside from appeasing whiny Penn fans who can’t believe he lost.
by NJMMAFan on Apr 14, 2010 8:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Truth is...
BJ was somehow Sick or injured in this fight and didn’t pull out and because of that lost…I think Dana owes him an immediate title shot for his loyalty…That and he is in the top two to three ppv earners the last three years..
No Rematch, Not right now
It was a close fight that could have gone either way even though I had Edgar winning 3 Rounds to Bj’s 2. But the lightweight division is now interesting again. U can have all kind of new matchups and still let BJ get his rematch in 1 or 2 fights. If he is truly the best he will win those fights to earn his rematch. Heres some things u could do now with the division. Florian vs Maynard and winner gets Edgar. BJ can fight tyson griffin. (does he got a fight coming up, i dont know?) Lets say edgar loses to kenflo or gray, then after tyson griffin match give edgar to BJ and winner gets shot back at title. If edgar beats kenflo or gray then if bj beats griffin give him a title shot. If tyson wins give him the title shot. The point is if BJ is the best (I thnk he is) hell earn his way back just like GSP when he had to fight KOS.
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