UFC Quick Quote: Tito Ortiz defends his position amidst fallout from 'Fibgate'
by Jesse Holland on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT
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"I haven't lied to anyone. I was told not to say 'Anything'! Having a chance to be sued for $5 million was not a chance I wanted to take. So watch TUF 11 and see what happens. I was just doing what I was told, for once. Sorry!"
Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion and current (at least for now) Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11 Coach Tito Ortiz tweets his defense to the fan and media backlash over "Fibgate." Promotion boss Dana White was caught between a rock and a hard place when news broke early of Rich Franklin's participation in both TUF 11 and the UFC 115 main event -- two spots already occupied by "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy." White tweeted that he was instead looking at Franklin vs. Couture and told the Canadian press that Ortiz was "definitely" main eventing in Vancouver. Is a little "White" lie okay to keep the suspense? Or did Dana cross the line? Thoughts?
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nothin wrong with "gates" in fact I prefer "gates" to regular news
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I care Giampaolo.
This ruins the whole season, it’s a pleasure watching Tito coach.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
give it a rest Roberto! 1 person caring, 2 if you count McAurthur...isnt enough to carry a ppv!
Feed Tito to BONES!!!
Im willing to bet ghe finishes the entire season as coach, if not most of it!
Good wrestling coach for sure, but I wouldnt want him teaching me to strike or how to not finish a basic traingle choke thats locked in!(see the Lyoto fight)
I'd want him to teach me the fine art of "Using Excuses to explain losses" and "How to stay relevant when the sport has past you by years ago"
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
atta boy Tito!!!!!!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Will Franklin tell his guys
to take a knee if theyre up against a good kicker again?
by xquisitewretch on Apr 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
huh?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Do you watch TUF?
He told Serra to start a match against striker on a knee so he can’t kick to the head.
1) That only stops head kicks
2) That totally prevents any mobility for the guy on the knee
3) Since when is Franklin a key strategy guy against strikers…he did so great against Anderson and Vitor afterall.
lol @ point 3
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I thought that was Hughes who told Serra to charge in on a knee?
Franklin wasn’t involved in that season at all.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
I still have no idea what Rich was playing at on TUF 4
He gave Serra the worst advice possible and didn’t bother training anyone because of his broken hand, instead he implied that the contestants were all lazy and used it as a chance to scout the MWs. Funny how that worked out for him in the end.
On the other hand he did a great job on TUF 2, he was a much nicer guy than Hughes and got the best out of his HWs. Unlike that arsehole farmer he actually wanted his guys to succeed and didn’t resort to bullying if things didn’t go his way. Hopefully we see the Franklin from TUF 2 and not the “one knee” Franklin from TUF 4.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
I don't remember Rich from that season at all.
Did he actually do anything?
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
He literally...
He literally told Serra to start a fight against a good kicker with one knee on the ground. It wasn’t paraphrased, it was right on film.
Amazing.
I remember the whole thing about that.
I remember Matt telling the guys back at the house and laughing about the suggestion, I just always thought it was Hughes. LOL
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
Good memory SD. I could have sworn that was Hughes that said it.
I thought that was one of the things that pissed Serra off about him?
Best TUF moment was Serra putting Marc Laimon in his fucking place. I hate that dick.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
LOL xquistiewretch
I thought I was the only one who remembered that one!! I think poor Rich was out of his element on that one. Did you see where Serra asked Couture about that..and Couture was like instantly..um that might work but you would still get hit. ha ha ha then Serra told him he was just joking but didn’t tell him where it came from…hilarious! However; I still love me some Ace..better than Tito.
Bones/Silva!!!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
hope so, him coaching is more important than the chuck fight.
Tito will fight Rashad after Rampage KO’s him.
keep it real Bargnani.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
You think the winner of Rashad/Rampage gets Tito??
Tito sucks. His skills suck, his coaching sucks, he cant speak properly, he can’t interview, he cant have kids, he cant keep his word.
MMA is Life
I would disagree on the "can't coach" part. The "can't have kids" is a low blow not worthy of your usually intelligent posts, TW. I am not a Tito fan, either. However, I do agree that Tito is no longer a good fighter anymore.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I said Rashad didn't i.
Tito/Rampage will never happen, and Page does beat Rashad. It would be the perfect time for that rematch to happen, they did fight to a draw the first time, a fight that Tito won but ended up in a draw on a technicality.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
completely agreed.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Really?
Lets look at what his pupils have accomplished….
Kendall Grove– Has finally proven to be an inconsistent gatekeeper.
Matt Hammill – The guy that Tito said would become the the LHW champ has become…wait for it….a gatekeeper.
Michael Bisping– After over hyping a fight against a future HOF ’r he gets knocked clean out (sound familiar, Tito?). He then proceeds to beat has beens (sound familiar?) and lose to star fighters who are past their prime(sound familiar?). Bisping is now back to fighting B level competition. With another loss, he will be…..wait for it….a gatekeeper.
Rory Singer…put him in the “where are they now” file?
Josh Haynes….put him in the “where are they now” file?
Noah Inhofer…..okaaaaaaay
Danny Abaddi– After Danny loses to asuperior opponent, Tito turns his back on him, claims Danny did what Tito told him not to do and then mocks him about being a real UF….ummmm yeah great coaching.
Mike Stine…who?
So tell me again why you believe Tito is such a great coach/mentor? Is it that he says he is? Do you believe Tito’s word?
He can be a good coach without success can't he?
Maybe he isn’t even a good coach, but he is a good motivator and team mate. He’s also a pretty good corner man.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
Go get your f*ckin' shine box?
I don’t know, isn’t that the yardstick of a good coach at the pro level?…success of the athletes.
Motivator? Maybe in contrast to Shamrock he was but Ken set the bar very low. I love it when my wife says that, " Ken just ‘out—douched’ Tito that season so Tito looked like a good coach." Love that woman.
Cornerman? Well, we can hear his voice on TV (unfortunately) but I’m not sure if his advice is any better than say…anyone else’s advice.
I do believe he cares about his fighters (except Danny) in some sort of genuine way more than other TUF coaches have, so he has that. But, I actually don’t believe he is really intelligent enough to interpret and create a unique channel for success the way a lot of other coaches have for their fighters. I think he just repeats what the coaches he has had say and “follows his gut” about he would do in a given situation….but not what that particular fighter should do in that situation for success. i.e. Yelling to a guy with no ground game on how to get top position (what is he going to do with top position), rather than how to get to his feet.
You're right. Success of his athletes is right.
I just like him as a coach because he puts his heart into it. Chuck stands around letting Winkeljohn do all the training while he shadowboxes for the camera. Tito is really pushing his guys and cares if they win or lose. You can’t really blame him for some of those guys, they weren’t going anywhere no matter who was training them.
Tito is a total dickhead loser, don’t get me wrong. But his coaching and cornering skills beat his fighting skills so badly it makes it seem like he is a good coach. Also after sitting through Rampage last season, Tito seems like a fucking Genius. Page is the absolute worst coach TUF has ever seen.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
Okay
“I just like him as a coach because he puts his heart into it. Chuck stands around letting Winkeljohn do all the training while he shadowboxes for the camera.”
Agree 100%. Tito does care about the fighters (except Abaddi) on some level, and I do believe it is genuine.
“You can’t really blame him for some of those guys”
Yeah….I guess you’re right, he was with Kendall for a while after the show but it isn’t his fault that say… Bisping is an over rated tool now.
As far as Tito’s cornering, I do disagree. He really doesn’t bring anything to the table the way Serra does. Serra was telling guys to do stuff that directly led to their winning the fight…AMAZING (especially since the other guy could hear him as well). Tito can hell a guy to move his arm a certain way but it always seems be a non factor as the position immediately changes.
I do think Tito is probably a good MMA trainer (even though his own legendary cardio is failing him now)…but not a good coach. Get the difference?
Yeah. I do. Those who can DO, those who can't COACH.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
I mean...
I mean he can probably be a good strength and conditioning trainer, drill leader, cardio adviser as it pertains to MMA.
As far as strategies, I see even average cornermen out coaching Tito. Can you imagine what Greg Jackson would do to him H2H?
To be fair the talent that series was lacking
Only Bisping and Hamill (and to a lesser extent Grove and Herman) have done anything from that series. As entertaining as it was, TUF 3 is probabaly the weakest out of the lot in terms of producing talent. It’s not Tito’s fault that he had nothing to work with and he still was a great coach and mentor to these guys, he genuinely cared about them (the only one he was a dick to was Abaddi and he brought that on himself) and helped them destroy Shamrock’s team. At the same time Shamrock gave them horrendous advice and never bothered to train them, instead he got them playing golf and watching old videos of himself. Say what you want about Tito but his coaching isn’t one of his many flaws.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
" It’s not Tito’s fault that he had nothing to work with"
Isn’t that what a good coach does? Trains athletes to exceed their actual talent level. Maybe a good mentor…although he has since proven to be a colossal douchebag and a terrible role model.
“(the only one he was a dick to was Abaddi and he brought that on himself)”
How did Abaddi do that? By getting beaten by a better opponent? Or by saying that he was able to get a part of his dream which was to fight in the UFC? Not really meriting the a-hole treatment by Tito. I don’t really care about Abaddi but that particular move by Tito has set me on a path of distain for Tito. He basically was picking on the weakest guy in the room. Sounding off about how this is a tough guys sport…unga bunga….pound chest, pound chest. F*ck Tito for that. That’s NOT what a good coach does. A good coach helps the weak become strong, and the strong become even stronger.
“At the same time Shamrock gave them horrendous advice and never bothered to train them, "
Like I said above, maybe in contrast to Shamrock he was a decent coach but Ken set the bar very low. I love it when my wife says that, " Ken just ‘out—douched’ Tito that season so Tito looked like a good coach."
“Say what you want about Tito but his coaching isn’t one of his many flaws.”
Nah, it’s just another flaw
I give him a little credit. Dave won't hear of it.
Serra is the best coach from that series ever(especially the season where he was a contestant). But Tito is in my top 5. You’re right about the way he tells his fighters to do stuff that isn’t ground breaking. But he has looked good compared to his counter-parts. But, like your wife says(LOL)it isn’t hard to look good when coaching against Shammy or Chuck.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
Yeah I don't know striker we don't see everything
A coach is more than the skills the teach it making the fighters you train believe in the skills you teach that seperate the good coach’s from the bad coach’s.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
You are willing to bet?
how about a sig bet that Tito will no longer be there after the 5th episode, John G ? Since you are willing to bet… 1 week sig only, no pic
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
im not comp savy, nor do I have the time to be changing sigs....and I smoke so much that I will prob forget. This was taped a while ago, and Jenna miscarrige is recent. I think he will finish out as coach. I really dont care enough to bet.
Just keep that excusing making, never was been off a main event of a ppv and Im happy!
Hell I dont even want to see him headline a spike card!
Bones vs Tito would end the same way Bones vs Vera ended.
Tito would really have a cracked skull.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
At least he'll be able to use his cracked skull excuse again
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Apr 13, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
no he wont
he’ll make up somethin else. I
’d like to see him get caught in a triangle then have the kid from the show drag him to the side and show him the proper technique on how to escape it.
MMA is Life
mir says:
Former UFC heavyweight champion Frank Mir has put out the offer to face Anderson Silva next.
After Saturday’s UFC 112 main event between Silva and Demian Maia, "The Spider" has gotten a lot of attention for his actions inside the octagon. In a text message to Fighters Only Magazine, Mir say’s he’d like to face Silva next in a catchweight bout.
"I would love to fight Anderson Silva!" Mir told Fighters Only in a text message last night. "I would even make it a 235 catch weight to make it more appealing to his manager and the commission."
Yeah Mir knows that would be a huge draw and Mir likes being in the big fights
Would be a interesting fight for sure
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
thats pretty interesting to me
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
well that too.
but also interesting how a MW smashes a heavyweight.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
MW champion KO'g former HW champion Wank Mir sounds entertaining and interesting to me
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
i dont know the original "gate" or its story so im impartial
Furthest back I can think of is greasegate for gsp. But I still dunno what the gate part means. I’m young, forgive me.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
watergate from the 70's...google Richard Nixon
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
whew so i wasnt even born yet. i dont feel so foolish now
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s still common knowledge.
And I have a moral obligation to society to beat him up. He is a dirtbag anyway, whether he went out there and shook hands and was gracious or he didn't. Who cares? I don't know why sportsmanship needs to be involved, anyways. It's a fight - go do whatever you want. So, yes, I will do whatever I want. And when my music hits those speakers, I will make that walk and answer for my words
-Chael Sonnen on Anderson Silva
I'm a 20 year old Englishman and I know about Watergate
Come on Worby, that was poor. Youth is no excuse.
And come on Holland, stop dumbing down a major part of American history with these pathetic excuses of a “gate”.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
I wasn't...
“whew so i wasnt even born yet. i dont feel so foolish now”
I wasn’t born during World War 2 but I know what the D-Day invasion is.
It’s called history because it is written down for people to read about later.
Fail Worby.
LOL
Be nice. Who cares if he isn’t a history buff?
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
Yeah leave him alone guys, he went to a special school LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
fuck i went to "i dont give a shit high"
i dont google crap or any of that and im not american nor do i have any interest in anything politics related. it bores me and have a heyday with that i dont care. history and politics is and always has been at the bottom of my list. usa controls us and we cant vote for them. whatever.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Take it easy you get riled up too easy LOL
Can’t wait for the ABM movement post, I enjoy reading ignorance.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
PS you should watch the Fanshot Rogan did on possible Toney vs Brock
It’s hilarious http://www.sbnation.com/users/RearNakedPoke
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Tito the main mayn!
So Boss!
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
+1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
-1
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
+1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
- ∞
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
haha!
Checkmate.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
DOH!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I don't remember asking you what you thought?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
good...don't let it happen again
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
-1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
dam you CHAMP!!!!!! -1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Apr 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
+ ∞
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
DRAGON101 FTW!! AGAIN!
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
At least Tito followed the rules this time.
I was just doing what I was told, for once.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Nothing wrong
With that just trying to help the show get rating and keep his money in his pocket. I think everyone would do the same.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed.
It actually sucks that Tito leaves because I was actually liking his coaching style. The Chuck piñata was funny too.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Yeah Same
It a shame he needed to pull out. From what we got to see it seems like he was doing a great job coaching the younger talent. But let’s not forget Rich is a good coach also. Plus we get to see a new match up instead of a rubber match even tho I wanted to see it anyway. No complaints from this fan.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Apr 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A "white lie" LOL I love it
Like I said I’m not going to judge anybody until the facts or on the table, only the ignorant will go off right now on Dana or Tito with not knowing any facts.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I just don't get why DW had to keep it a secret
What’s the big deal? Rich is comin’ in episode 3. Im more likely to watch it now that Ace is there.
MMA is Life
agreed
but does anyone know why?
is it because of Jenna’s miscarriage?
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I can only think it was not to ruin the show
but it’s only 2 episodes in, so i dont get it. Instead, it just made Dana look like a jackass. He’s quoted as saying “Tito and Chuck is definately the main event”. So, how are we supposed to believe anything that comes out of his mouth?
MMA is Life
Thats exactly it, you don't have to believe anything
The product that is displayed in the octagon is the only true measurement for Dana. But like I said we don’;t know the facts yet and until we do anything said is naive. Maybe the Chuck andf Franklin fight is just BS and the real White lie that Dana is telling just to play into the media hype and Tito will be announced as Chucks opponent after all.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Most of what Dana says is utter shite
He lost all credibility with me a long time ago, I honestly don’t believe a word that he says anymore. He only says things to get attention and this is another example of that.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
Good now I can stop listening to the crying. If only that were true LOL.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Season 11?? Good grief!!
Somebody flush this turd!!
Yea cause loosing tito and actually having some good fighters this year makes the season suck!.... Right?
"The Red-eyed Jedi...holds a 7th degree Black Belt in Bonghitisu"
by ItsNormlToSmokePot on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Zuffa, if he spoilt TUF
Which he didn’t. Hence this shambles (I refuse to call it a “gate”).
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
SPIKE
OK….Tito is a pretty good coach…prob. b/c the cameras are on. Outside of that he is a douche. He was good with Hamill the most, ok with Bisping (who is the best) and wasn’t very good with Kendall and Ed who actually won. But poor Ed quit b/c he got beat too many times, even though he did get his first KO. Kendall did train with Tito, but then changed b/c he realized how big of a douche Tito is, but is still sponsored by Punishment. Anyways, I’m thinking that Tito and Dana HAD to lie about it b/c of SPIKE’s ownership rights to the TUF show. So lets blame SPIKE and not Tito (wish I could) and not Dana…let’s think about it! C/S Mayhem rules! Jake started it by pushing him b/c he asked for a rematch…douche..and Melindez looked great for a change…
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