Trainer: BJ Penn was battling a sinus infection and taking antibiotics at UFC 112
by Jesse Holland on Apr 13, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
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"I feel BJ won the fight. He was also battling a sinus infection and was on antibiotics, so he was not one hundred percent. I’m not making any excuses, that is just what happened. I didn’t see him lose that fight but I did see him lose the last round. As for effectiveness of punches, I thought BJ had it. Frankie got two takedowns but BJ got up real fast and nothing happened on the ground there, so I don’t know if they could score the fight based on those two takedowns. I’m not taking anything from Frankie Edgar. He fought a real good fight and had a good strategy. His stand-up was good, he was moving a lot in and out real fast. Frankie fought a very good and strategic fight. I don’t want this to be about criticizing Frankie because I like him and he fought well. Going into the fifth round I told BJ that he had to win this round to win the fight. But sometimes things don’t go the right way. Being on antibiotics and struggling to get better from being sick and having a fever over the course of two weeks, these were some of the factors that slowed him down. That wasn’t the BJ Penn that we had in camp for three months going through sparring partners the way he did. We never took Frankie Edgar like he wasn’t a world contender. We took him very serious. We knew he could do damage to BJ in stand up and with takedowns. We were working BJ Penn wasn’t 100 percent, what you saw in the fight was him battling being sick. He didn’t want to call Dana three weeks before the fight and cancel because he was sick. BJ being the champion that he is just went in there and fought."
Rudy Valentino, longtime trainer for former UFC Lightweight Champion BJ Penn, discusses the medical ailments that afflicted "The Prodigy" during his UFC 112 loss to new division title holder Frankie Edgar. The Hawaiian looked tentative and sometimes lethargic throughout the five round bout and appeared to have difficulty adjusting to the speed and quickness of "The Answer." The Penn camp wants an immediate rematch but may have to wait and see how the promotion responds to Gray Maynard's request for first crack at the gold. Anyone feel like this fight would have gone any differently if Penn was healthy? Or is this just another bargain-bin excuse following an uninspiring performance? Opinions please.
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h-h-heyyyyy kiddies!
Wonka wonka wonka
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's the thing
If a fighter is really sick the night of a fight it would suck…I mean when your sick you don’t even feel like getting out of bed, let alone fight. But it really is no excuse…I’m a bj fan and you know what, he took the fight, he was in there, and he lost. I think bj was out of shape, I didn’t see the same toned body that I’ve seen in his previous lightweight fights. Hopefully he can bounce back, but he or his trainers shouldn’t be using anything as an excuse, they should just worry about what’s next for bj and congratulate frankie.
Just Do It
-Nike
Truer words were never spoken..........
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
well..
we all knew an excuse was comming, here it is..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
It's not an excuse; it's an answer to hagging media questions.
I’m not a Penn fan; in fact was hoping he’d lose. But the explanation makes a lot of sense. He wasn’t right. Straight-up explanation doesn’t equal an excuse. The guy gives props to Edgar, so don’t have cow, people.
by MMACrossfire on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
MMACrossfire gets it. End the thread here.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
GSP apologised for taking so long finishing a fight when he was sick once (forgot against who) and won with a torn groin against Alves, hughes got kicked in the balls and still beat Trigg and Franklin beat David Loiseau with a broken hand.
All I’m saying is that many people have ailments and injuries going into or during a fight, Joe & Mike even mentioned during the event that not many fighters enter a fight 100% (apart from Rampage, that brother needs to train more).
If BJ Penn was sick I think he should of tried to end it early on the ground where he has the biggest advantage. BJ Penn is not really a quick knock out guy so why he would want to drag the match out I don’t know.
Anyway my point is it’s unfortunate but when your champ it comes with the territory. But BJ hasn’t mentioned him and I respect that.
by holdin_ropes on Apr 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I Believe It
Mainly, because Rudy concedes Frankie fought great. They werent like bashing the decision either they just said dude was sick. I feel for that and it sounds true to me
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if BJ was sick (and I happen to believe he was)...
I think fighters/coaches should not state that after the fight. If you are sick, don’t fight, simple as that.
Just keep it to yourself and do a better job next time when your healthy. Nothing comes of announcing that stuff after the fight, so whats the point? Unless he wants to use that excuse to get an immediate rematch, in which case it IS an excuse and you are taking away from the other fighter performance.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I heard Bj on the radio this morning
He didn’t say anything about being sick. & they were even asking him it looked like U didn’t even care out there. He was saying he’s guna get a rematch with Edgar in a couple months.
by d*locc on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's besides the point..
BJ’s problem is BJ. He doesn’t take training seriously and he obviously doesn’t take instruction well either(didn’t even attempt at attempting a takedown on Edgar).
I’m sick of this guy, if you don’t want to train 100% then thats cool, i don’t mind. You have enough talent were you’l beat everyone in the LW division 99 times out of 100 without the training. But don’t make excuses(through a trainer or not) when you do lose that 1 time due to your ignorance and lazyness
Non-Penn fan (me) sees reason: It's simple -- he was sick.
He even looked sick at the weigh-ins. He was sick.
I wanted BJ to lose. I expected him to walk through Edgar. I had the fight as probably a draw. Yet, I knew for a fact that BJ was not right in that fight. He looked like a zombie.
by MMACrossfire on Apr 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked out of shape and unmotivated. Sounds normal to me.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
^^^THIS^^^
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Finally the excuses come out........
I knew there was know way bj could just be out right bested. Sarcasm, sarcasm, sacarsm*
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
hey
The sinus infection was so bad that it took BJ a couple more days to get those excuses started!
by justbleed9999 on Apr 13, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
what excuses? it's a fact that he had those problems.
BJ did win the fight that’s what matters, it’s very disturbing to see Frankie get praised like he’s the “shit” after getting a decision from 3 corrupted a-holes.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
Frankie won the fight.
Regardless of how you feel about it. When you look back 10 years from now the books are gonna read the same. Winner by UD, Frankie Edgar………….
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
10 yrs from now the UFC won’t exist, they will have got caught for fixing fights and more importantly the judges will be sent to jail.
I don’t care shit for what the judges say, they’ve shown me that mma is a joke and that any fight that goes to a decision is equal to a non-contest.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
lmao
get a grip lad, has bj rang you up to make more excuses for him ;)
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
it's rudy valentino who said this, not bj.
If you have a problem with someone’s trainer talking about what shape his athlete was in for the fight, then ok.
fact is still fact. And btw, im 100% convinced that a fully healthy BJ would have crushed Frankie, so it’s good rudy came out with this.
last name ever, first name greatest.
like a sprained ankle, boy i ain't nothin to play with.
lol ya its real good that the trainer makes the excuses now
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
^^ this ^^
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
darn
i guess roberto still hasnt figured out how to erase his account
by xquisitewretch on Apr 13, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It was also the corner that quit in the GSP fight, not BJ.
I’m just going to leave this thread alone. It’s too easy.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
by jay. on Apr 13, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lmfao
dan hardy took a beating but he won me over as a fan.
by Phenomenal Angel on Apr 13, 2010 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bj will get edgar eventually..........
He’s the better fighter no doubt in my mind. His camp just needs to let their actions speak. Go bak to the gym come out and crush the competition. Regardless who says it, penn, his mom, or the trainer, it looks bad………
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
agreed with ^^
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Roberto
WTF is happening?! Why am I finding myself agreeing with all your posts on this thread?! I think I’ve just entered the twilight zone or something. . .
Bottom line.. I stand by my belief that if Penn is 100%, there’s no one in the world at 155 who can beat him. Him being sick makes a lot of sense for his inability to engage. I mean, this is Frankie Edgar we’re still talking about guys, he’s not in the same league as Machida, GSP, or even Hughes for that matter. I’m pretty sure BJ could easily handle him had he been healthy.
Meltdown much?? lol
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
once again Roberto is raving how shitty MMA is
When will this little b*itch get off this site?
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
by freenow82 on Apr 13, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"10 yrs from now the UFC won’t exist"
Craziest shit I have ever read on this site. lol
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
+1
Supreme hater
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Apr 13, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ
BJ didn’t win that fight it says so in the record books pal
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
Frankie won but the fans are the true winners
Congrats on your win frankie, you did a masterful job of dodging any meaningful striking engagments from the forward moving BJ the entire fight. As Bj is known to aggressively engage with his opponents hoping to submit or ko them, your gameplan of moving left, right and backwards with the occasional landed jab was well executed. The world is excited for your next exciting match showcasing your amazing footwork skills, we have reached a new era of mma.
Thank god Bj’s days of finishing fights and making excuses for losing are behind us.
by Dball on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No surprise the biggest Tito fan on Mania would say BJ isn’t making excuses for a loss.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
by P-Dub on Apr 13, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Apr 13, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping for a cracked skull.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
agreed
i knew somethin had to be up, BJ didnt even try to fight, and i thought he still won.
congrats to frankie, but he’ll get killed in the rematch. He truly did get lucky.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
The pick above looks pathetic, doesn't it? The guy wasn't right.
He looks like zombie. He didn’t look right in the fight. Not surprised to hear he was sick.
by MMACrossfire on Apr 13, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Roberto,
I have a hard time believing that you can be a boxing fan, you use the word corrupt when talking about the UFC like its “and” “it” or “the”. How can you like boxing and call it more legite that MMA if you are so hardcore against corruption? A little bit contradictory isnt it
What about his leg?
My main concern for BJ in this fight was that his left leg was wrapped and in between rounds his corner kept telling him to prop it up and take his weight off of it.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Apr 13, 2010 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
That's what I thought.
To be honest I wouldn’t mind seeing a rematch with a full health BJ. It would make a really interesting match up. Whether or not he deserves an immediate rematch is a different matter, Penn Gomi makes the most sense to me right now.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Apr 13, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You may be right
It would be interesting although I can’t see Gomi having much of a chance. It should be entertaining though. I have a feeling KenFlo is going to get the next shot and take that belt from Frankie.
Actually I was thinking about how stagnant TUF has become and maybe a Frankie/BJ season would liven it up.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Apr 13, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
The sinus infection was so bad that he had to wrap his knee!
And he didn’t hear his trainers say to “Take him down!”, like I heard while watching between rounds on TV thousands of miles away.
by justbleed9999 on Apr 13, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Why even come out and say this??
Just take the lose like a man. Even if you say “I’m not trying to take anything away” by syaing this you are taking something away……………..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
The guy didn't come out and say it. He got nagged by media hounds. Pretty simple.
It’s an answer to a nearly infinite supply of the same question: “What happened? He didn’t look right? Why didn’t he listen to his corner? Was he sick?”
by MMACrossfire on Apr 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
surprised its taken this long for an excuse to come out!
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions
ZING!!
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
i beleive it tho
Makes sense that he would be lathargic and not hitting himself in the head on the way to the ring.
Everyone says he looked different so I can’t blame his camp for letting this out.
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Apr 13, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hmm, he seemed fine on the hundreds of 20sec videos he tweeted right up until the fight. Go back and watch them. This is lame. And here I was thinking man BJ is taking this loss well.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
The sinus infection was so bad....
The sinus infection was so bad that he couldn’t stop licking his lips on the way to the ring.
Which caused severe chap lips.
How can a man expect to fight at 100% with chapped lips?!!
Rematch please.
by justbleed9999 on Apr 13, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ is no Tito. its not like he stood there and made excuses to the crowd.
BJ isn’t even the one saying this shit.
ya but we can all agree...
…just so long as GSP didn’t lose, this works.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Hear me making up excuses FREE on BJPenndotcom!" /tweet
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
He didn’t want to call Dana three weeks before the fight and cancel because he was sick.
Too bad BJ also didn’t want to man up and take his loss without whining.
by TheFriendlySponge on Apr 13, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions
I have had a sinus infection
If we take Rudy at his word that BJ was sick, then it is even more b.s. because a sinus infection doesn’t take three weeks to recover from, especially with antibiotics. He would have had plenty of time to recover and be back at full strength by fight time. The excuse making was just an eventuality.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Apr 13, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
He did
look like he lost a bit of spunk.. but mehh.. a loss is a loss..
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
damn BJ...
I seriously thought there would be no excuses except for a bad game plan.
Man this guy is a terrible loser… I’m so disappointed.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
no excuses but i agree!
I don’t think these are excuses. But i do agree. BJ didn’t look like BJ to me. It’s not like Edgar dominated him every round, and I don’t think Edgar is a better fighter than BJ. I knew something was up when I was watching this fight. You can’t use these as excuses of why he lost the fight, but I promise if they have a rematch, the fight will go much different.
I thought bj won the fight..........
But he didn’t. Regardless of what anyone thinks, he lost, that’s the facts and it’s history. I just wish one time he would lose and say “He kicked my ass, plain and simple” I can’t be a fan of his until he puts the excuses aside………………
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
And this is why I hate Penn just as much as Silva
So glad he’s no longer champ.
by Lester The Pimp on Apr 13, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions
Hey BJ
Tell your trainer to calm down. Frankie will do this to you 10 times out 10. It will be impossible to blame 10 sinus infections on the fact that your cardio is non-existent and you walk around looking like a cross between the Pillsbury doughboy and a cabbage patch kid.
what you gonna say when gray beats your boyfriend again? ;)
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Won't Happen
So I am not worried. Frankie is too smart to sit there and let Maynard dictate the fight. Frankie will force Maynard to gas just like Penn did.
My worry is Florian. I think Florian matches up way better against Edgar. I think Florian gives Edgar a far greater fight than Maynard will. Maynard will not know how to neutralize Edgar’s speed and conditioning.
he'll take him down over and over again,,,,
thats what he’ll do to neutralize his speed and conditioning..just like in the first fight
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Not a chance. Maynard will never get in close enough to take him down and he will suffer the same fate as Penn did. He won’t figure out Frankie’s timing and head movement and will be forced to match Frankie’s cardio and when he figures he can’t because he is gassed, that is when he makes a mistake.
This isn’t rocket science. The fighter who beats Edgar is the one who comes in with better cardio, better strength and conditioning and these are things I don’t see anyone currently in the UFC Lightweight division brining to the table.
Do you watch MMA? Did you watch the first fight?
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Yes I saw both Fights
A lot as changed since then.
Frankie has added Mark Henry
Frankie has switched conditioning trainers for the better
Frankie has added Phil Nurse (GSP’s Muay Thai trainer)
Frankie is a much different fighter now. A much more evolved, experienced fighter with a much better training staff.
mark henry?
asin
wow he must be sorted now ;)
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
haha i thought the same mark henry
Worlds strongest man/sexual chocolate lol
Is he still in wwe?
dan hardy took a beating but he won me over as a fan.
by Phenomenal Angel on Apr 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
michael jordan was real sick one night too
he dropped 63.
by Newfie3 on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Word
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 13, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
63..38
Either way it was an unbelievably inspiring performance.
63's the new 38
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Does that mean I am no longer old enough to drink legally?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
O shit......
I might not be born yet if this is the case. lol
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
nice
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
for your non-basketball fans..
pic is pippen actually carrying jordan off the court cause he is so sick.
AND...GO MAGIC!
Only 3 games back of the juggernaut Cavs? 2nd in the NBA even over the Lakers? Fukn riggghts Vinsanity, and D Howard gonna finish the job this year!
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sry man, Im a big fan of the Magic
But Lakers are repeating this year.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Lakers
dan hardy took a beating but he won me over as a fan.
by Phenomenal Angel on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Got that right, Newfie
VC and his cousin T-Bag, I mean T-Mac, are the two most overrated players in the league. They make a highlight reel play once in a while and cost through most of the games. Never advance in the playoffs. And for some reason, these fucktard GMs keep throwing tens of millions of dollars at them.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
Actually Carter only sucked as a franchise player...
With Orlando he is playing fantastic as a secondary scoring force and much needed swing man. You guys actually watch NBA or just spewing what you heard?
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
So am I dude.
I went to the Chicago game on Sunday, 8th row. What a disappointment.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
exactly freenow!
VC is far from overrated! How can anyone expect him to carry the Raps to the promiseland? He got those hacks to the playoffs after them doing nothing for years. He had a lot of success with a team of morons. The new Raps are 10x what they were and even Bosh is fed up with them. Truth is no star wants to rot on that team. So he moves to NJ and had what I consider a very successful outing as well. He slays his former team usually winning at the buzzer just to throw salt in the wound, I mean the famous in bound reverse dunk alley oop at the buzzer in OT to win? Lol priceless.
Also the raps were useless for a couple when he left, and look at NJ? He leaves and the next year their shattering more records then the Beatles “bigger then Jesus” escapade. And not in a good way.
He brought all the attention in the world to a team that needed it horribly with his 2000-01 dunk killert comp. And no one on earth can take that #1 performance away. K I’m done now.
Go magic!
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
never ever expected VC to take them to the finals...
just expected him to play hard night in, night out.
which he openly admitted he did not do
Exactly Newfie.
It’s hard to respect a dude who competes at th highest level of a professional sport who doesn’t take it serious and give 100%(in-game, in-training..etc)
Kinda reminds me of a certain ex-LW champion in the UFC. Let’s play name that slacker!
You know what Toronto...
…I don’t think I’m going to dunk any more. Thanks Vince, you broke my heart
Explanations aren't excuses and excuses aren't explanations
I don’t see this so much as an excuse as I do an explanation. Its a thin line but I believe every fighter believes they know the reasons they lost and it should be ok for them to try and explain this. Its not like BJ’s out there making wild excuses for his loss. And this is not BJ talking either. I know many could say its the same. Personally, I take this as, “If the fight were to happen again, it wouldn’t happen the same.” That’s all. And I think most could agree with that.
he's probably be on his man-period next time
and it wouldnt be revealed until after the loss
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious this is.......
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
Manstruation
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
This brought a tear to my eye.......
Funniest shit I have ever read. Permission to use amonst my peers?
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
if you are referring to me then yes and im sure freenow will let you also if you meant him ha
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup I meant you guys.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
Please use and spread :)
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
That's what she said....
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Nice.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
lol that can be interpreted in so many different ways if she said it...
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
In a disturbing way, after being on Web MD,
the “spread” part kind of wierded me oput at first, but I couldn’t resist.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I am gonna make my mrs. tell me to "spread" it lol
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
I don't want to pry....
but why are YOU spreading?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I thought she was spreading??
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
O I see the confusion......
By “it” I meant her vagina.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
I got ya the first time, but saw the confusion also. :)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I spread for no one. lol
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
haha
well you could have been referring to spreading thy love yoghurt…
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 13, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Touche rampagelangford, touche.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
I will tell all who hear it it's origins.....
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
From Web MD:
Acute sinusitis. If you have a simple sinus infection, your health care provider may recommend treatment with decongestants like Sudafed and steam inhalations alone. Use of nonprescription decongestant nasal drops or sprays may also be effective in controlling symptoms. However, these medicines should not be used beyond their recommended use, usually four to five days, or they may actually increase congestion. If antibiotics are given, they are usually given for 10 to 14 days. With treatment, the symptoms usually disappear and antibiotics are no longer required.
So BJ had sinusitis 3 weeks before the fight, but the average person recovers in 10-14 days? Maybe he had chronic sinusitis? The Mayo clinic says that these factors increase your risk:
A nasal passage abnormality, such as a deviated nasal septum, or nasal polyps
Aspirin sensitivity that causes respiratory symptoms
A medical condition such as cystic fibrosis or gastroesophageal reflux (GERD)
An immune system disorder such as HIV/AIDS or cystic fibrosis
Hay fever or another allergic condition that affects your sinuses
Asthma — about one in 5 people with chronic sinusitis have asthma
Regular exposure to pollutants such as cigarette smoke
So, BJ either has allergies/asthma (he already would have used that excuse), is dying from a debilitating disease or has taken up smoking? That is f*cked up! I can’t believe BJ is dying and he put his life on the line for the UFC to be able to hold their inaugural event in Abu Dhabi!!! He should get an immediate rematch since his incurable disease will be cured through a miracle and he gave up smoking again!!!
Don’t believe me? Go ask his Mom.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Ulf Murphy FTW......
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
sinus
Dana White just came out and said BJ might never fight again, the sinus infection is so bad.
by justbleed9999 on Apr 13, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
LMFAO!!
Nice one buddy.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
I heard his head exploded on the plane ride back due to the sinus pressure.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
lol
Also Breaking News: Dana just announced he released Anderson and Scott Coker instantly hired him to replace King Mo next week.
Anderson vs Mousasi!
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
WOW. You are stupid for real.
Didn’t you see all the maybes and usuallys in that text. Every persons immune system is different and sometimes it takes different antibiotics to recover. Maybe he did recovered in 10-14 days, but being sick as a preperation to a fight isn’t the best preperation I guess.
Also, we haven’t heard BJ say anything about this yet. So get off the case.
Edgar would do the same thing to a 100 per cent BJ Penn. to fast and lands fast combos. BJ could win by taking it down and going for submissions so why didnt he try that once in the fight!
I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.
anyone seen Prettyboy? why did roberto want to end his page the otherday too?
I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.
Pretty Boy lost a bet and is banned from the site............
or so I’ve heard.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
It is all you GSP fan fucking haters talking shit right now.
GSP never makes excuses. Oh wait, everytime he lost he has made excuses. What a bunch of hypocrites. Throw another brick.
by BNF on Apr 13, 2010 10:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah but that was only twice.
Bj hass made excuses like 5 times now……..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
And GSP has since absolved both of those losses.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Since when does one fighters excuse making make it ok for another fighter to make excuses?
Talk about bricks, keep it up buddy, you’ll have a building in no time.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
I didn't say BJ was making excuses dipshit.
The only thing I have heard from BJ is congratulations to Frankie.
by BNF on Apr 13, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But it was hard to see if he was being truthful.........
seeing as I couldn’t look directly into his eyes……..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
You didn't have to say it, his trainer did for him. You talk about people being hypocrites as if that exonerates BJ, but it doesn't.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
And besides, BJ's mom told you to defend him
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Nice.
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
wah wahHis comment make absolutly no sense
He said I know Bj Penn won that fight. After he said I know Frankie won the 5th round. And finally he said, I told Bj he needed to win the 5th round to win… pathetic. I knew excuses and debate would come, classic BJ Penn loser attitude. His camp and his fans are suiting him well ;)
BJ looked shit in that fight
Frankie was all over him something seemed wrong with BJ I personally thought it was the speed
speed and gameplan
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
The rematch needs to happen first.
Gray Maynard and Kenflo should fight for number 1 contender status. Bj and Edgar need to rematch first and foremost. Bj was the defending champion and he deserves the rematch. Frankie is a great fighter who had a superior gameplan. I think BJ actually squeaked by Edgar, but honestly that fight could go either way.
It is apparent that Bj is a polarizing fighter, but jesus… some of you guys hate him so much it makes me really wonder if your just trolling.
99 percent of you have never met the guy and you have such a blind hatred of him it’s freaking ridiculous. The same for the BJ nut huggers……. just be a fan and enjoy the sport. Most of you sound pathetic….
I think less people hate him here than you think...
He is great fighter and usually fun to watch.
We are just disappointed that he didn’t deliver and that he is (again) making excuses.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Just a matter of time before
the excuse came out. Can this guy not lose a fight, congragulate the winner and then quitely go away until his next fight. Every single fight he has lost, there has been an excuse for it. I try to like BJ but he makes it hard!!!
Everyone can say BJ looked like shit but I think we need to give Frankie some credit, honestly I think he had something to do with why BJ looked so bad in that fight. Same as when GSP makes #1 contenders look like my grandma in there!!
Was BJ not the first person
to congratulate Edgar for his win and said that he fought a great fight! You BJ Penn haters need to get a grip! Most, if not every fighter that loses will explain their setbacks in training leading up to their fight and will of course be certain that it had an effect on theyre overall performance!! lighten up guys you would do the same if you were in his situation.
That's right a healthy bj would've destroyed edgar...
Damn, edgar couldn’t even finish him not did he dominate bj like wow, edgar whooped bj’s ass. So,bj’s still the best. Rematch
At the end of the day the result was bullshit. One judge gave all 5 rounds to Frankie??? what a joke. It wasnt a great fight and no way did frankie do enough to take the title from BJ.
I agree BJ could have done more but his strikes were better than frankies and the computer score proves that. I had it 3 rounds to penn and the last 2 to Edgar. Should be an immediate rematch.
by Robert Marland on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions
Agree with you on the judging...
There’s potential for Frankie to win a razor thin decision there at 48-47, but there’s no question the guy who scored it 50-45 Edgar wasn’t even close to the ball park. There’s a legit argument for Frankie to win three rounds, which wins him the title, but it was really close, and you’d hope that judges imported to avoid just the type of bush league judging we got would be on point for all fights, let alone one that decided a title. BJ did get jobbed by the 50-45 dude, for sure.
I wonder if BJ is reaping some of the harvest for the complaining about greasing and in fight reffing, judging in the GSP beatdown. Not that I’m a conspiracy theorist, but you wonder if judges judging outside the authority of their licensing bodies let that play out in their headspace to get a little justice back for their brothers in arms/cards… Hmmm…
Makes sense...
Everyone said BJ didn’t look right that night and this gives us our reason why. He was sick, and had half as much strength and endurance.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
R.I.P. Dime.
SICK OR NOT
Who cares if he was sick or not, the gosh darn fight was soooooo gosh darn close, we have to have a rematch, if we don’t then Machida/Rua 2 wouldn’t be happening. I can’t stand BJ, but I can still honestly say he looked chubby, and he fought pretty darn good being chubby…Gray Maynard can answer all these questions, he sparred BJ on TUF 5 (the main reason he didn’t take the fight, knew from that sparring session how sweet BJ is) and he fought Frankie…I met Rudy Valentino one time, he’s a very respectful dude
look at this in context
If I lost a fight my mum would wanna take up d fight 4 me(fact). I dnt think I’d b abl2stop her. Was this fight typically characteristic of BJ’s lightweight performances? It’s real easy to kick a guy when he’s down. I understand there are many people who hate on BJ purely cos they hang from GSP’s nuts. Beleive me there are just as many of us that support BJ just as passionately if not more than u GSP nut hugger’s. Maybe one day we’ll have it out:)
by WayofTheWarrior on Apr 13, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
The undisputed lightweight champion of...
excuse making of the world, BEEE-JAAAY, The PRAW-DI-GEE, PENNNNNNNN.
Greasing. Sinus infection. His mom forgot to pack his lunch. My trainers gave me the wrong rock to carry in the water at the beach with Justin McCully.
The guy can’t help himself. And please give me a break with the “his camp said it, not BJ” act. He’s attached to the hip with those guys- you think they speak apart from what BJ’s OK with?
I saw Urijah go the distance with a pair of busted hands. GSP mauled Alves on one leg for two and a half rounds.
How many times is the guy who’s forever saying he’s ready to fight to the death going to have reasons to lose or justify not winning a fight he should have cleaned up in? Edgar is a tenacious fighter with good cardio, decent stand up and wrestling, but BJ’s got him skillwise every way AND Sunday. I don’t know how he can say anything but “I clearly didn’t leave a picture that I won the fight without question with the judges, and Frankie Edgar did enough to justify a win. It’s on me, good on Frankie, and I’m determined to destroy every dude I fight until that belt is back around my waist. I lost this once, but it’ll be back soon.”
He didn't say any of that because
He’s a whiner. That’s what they do.
AND NEW UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FRANKIE 'THE ANSWER' EDGAR
thats right JAy BJ is all class and he wouldnt say anything that isnt true.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Penn actually would fight to the death..
His corner knows this and has been the reason for every stoppage against him during his career. When was the last time he tapped?.
BJ submits him in their rematch.
Not so much...
BJ didn’t get held back by his cornermen kicking and screaming to go out for the 5th against GSP- he hung his head, said nothing to repeated requests, and he gave up. BJ quit dude. I’d figure a guy whose moniker is taken from Don Cherry’s segment on Hockey Night In Canada would know when a guy quit when he saw it. He didn’t go back out because he didn’t want to- that’s not to the death. I thought it was a foolhardy thing to say in the first place- it’ not a sport where you aim for fatalities. To say that you’re not willing to tap, you gotta knock me out, sure. It was big, empty talk to sell tickets. I get that, but you’d expect a guy who uses that as a mantra to be mentally tough enough to dominate a guy with a set of sore sinuses.
I will say BJ himself hasn’t made any attempt to take anything away from Frankie, and I respect that. I just think his corner guy is a tool for flinging a sinus infection into the public eye as a reason BJ didn’t win what was a completely winnable fight for him. He’s head and shoulders better than anyone else at his weight class on earth, like him or not. To have his people making excuses for him is dumb…
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