UFC Quick Quote: Hell hath no fury like Dan Hardy on 'UFC Primetime'
by Jesse Holland on Mar 9, 2010 7:11 PM EST
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"I know that I can give GSP hell when the times come. It’s so sweet stepping out into the Octagon on the other side saying, ‘I told you so.’ All these GSP fans that are betting the house on him, when they wake up Sunday morning ... they aren’t going to be too impressed with themselves."
-- Tough talk from welterweight number one contender Dan Hardy, who gets his chance at the Canadian uber-champ at UFC 111 on March 27 in Newark. "The Outlaw" gets to further burrow himself under the skin of St. Pierre fans when he debuts on "UFC Primetime" this Wednesday, March 10 at 10 p.m. ET on Spike TV. Is the Brit simply making the most of his time in the spotlight? Or is he genuinely confident in his ability to dethrone one of the greatest fighters in the game today?
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The Rough House IS a team. We are 14-1 in our last 15 bouts and the one loss was when Ross Pearson and Andre Winner fought each other. I am glad I have their backing against GSP. - Dan Hardy
by JRE on Mar 9, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
War Team Rough House
Realistically Hardy has no chance but I’ll be rooting for him and the other boys. They’re all on a roll right now and each of the lads are getting better every fight, 2010 will be the year of the Rough House.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Def Rooting
FOr HArdy I like his team too. I doubt anyone is going to ever beat GSp at that weight but lets see. BTW GSP needs to go back to his old days and strike it out more… Ex the JAy Hieron fight. Thats the GSP i would love to see back in the OCtagon not the scared to strike GSP we see today.
by The real ZACK on Mar 10, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
This guy sure talks a lot
For someone who hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 10 of the ww division. And he struggled mightily with Marcus Davis. That decision could have gone either way. He’s going to be GSP’s easiest fight to date!
Calu
Struggled with Davis!?!?! Are you sure!
I don’t know what the problem is with Dan Hardy. He’s a great character, trains very hard and all he has done is beat the people the UFC throw at him. Is his shot at GSP coming too soon, probably. GSP is a monster. But who else is gonna fight him!?
He got knocked out by Serra (but we all saw what happened in the rematch at 83), but after that knockout he walked through Koscheck, finished Hughes, battered Serra, dominated Fitch (if a rather boring fight), beat the living crap out of BJ and controlled Alves for 5 rounds.
So who does that leave!? Johnson!? he got subbed by Kos, Kampmann (smashed by Daley – keep your eye on that boy!!), Killa B, not so sure yet.
They may as well give Hardy a shot (and he does have a shot), ok GSP may well get the win again, but I don’t think Hardy should be written off so easily. I think this could be interesting and the only other option except for Hardy, would be Paulo Thiago (getting better and better) or Daley – but Daley is fighting Kos and Thiago will likely face Kampmann, so for now, Hardy is the only option.
And no, Hardy did not struggle with Davis. First round went to Davis by cuddling and ZERO damage, round two he floored Davis with a nice knee and again Davis couldn’t do any damage at all. Round three Hardy made a mess of Davis with an elbow, and the referee checking the cut probably saved his sorry ass from the KO as he was wobbling all over the place.
Go for it Hardy, odds against you, but rooting for you.
But GSP is a monster!!!!!!
by Alan Liddington on Mar 10, 2010 7:28 AM EST up reply actions
i thought gsp's fight with fitch was pretty good
oh and thiago is fighting fitch btw…good post tho
If running your mouth won belts, Hardy would already be champion.
Hardy should probably shut up now. I know he likes to play mind games and he wants to sell the fight, but pissing off Georges is never a good strategy. And as BJ will attest, it makes you look like an ass when you get clowned on.
He hasn’t even earned a shot at the strap by beating anybody of note, and he talks like he’s this unstoppable wrecking machine.
Dude, you couldn’t even finish the Auschwitz survivor or the American tard grenade.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
Hardy starred in the horror film...
30 Days of Night.
WAR HARDY!!!!
ha ha ha.. the only way gsp can win is wt wrestling.. dan hardy will knock him out! laugh now cry later gsp fans!!!
My Balls Your Chin
Mm hmm.
I think I’ll laugh now and later, thank you very much.
ya he talks alot.. but everytime he talks shit he backs it up with a fucking W not a L
Yeah, every time he fights a B level fighter he backs it up. Unfortunate for him that he’s fighting GSP this time.
Game, set, match. And there goes Hardy’s fifteen minutes. A douchy red mohawk bobbing off into the sunset.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can Agree.
He has fought B at best B+ in Swick. But GSP is by far A+.
by AintNoSunshine on Mar 9, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
ya ya ya
i agree with your comments.. swick isnt b level.. but i think swick is the only fighter worth while that hardy has beat.. wt that said gsp is no fucking swick.. i just want hardy to win.
My Balls Your Chin
Nothing wrong with that, man. We all have our faves.
Truth be told, I like Hardy. I think he’s funny and an exciting guy to watch. Good for the sport.
Just isn’t gonna beat a legend like GSP, that’s all — and It gets under my skin a bit when a class act like GSP, who respects every one of his opponents, gets smeared.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmpff.
I make a comment about GSP getting smeared, and not one smartass vaseline crack.
I was just giving that one away. You guys are off your game tonight.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Smeared?
I haven’t heard Hardy say anything truly derogatory about GSP, other than the expected, “I’m gonna knock him out” bit, and what not. Hardy seems to be rather respectful of GSP, and GSP likewise is the classiest guy in the sport, unless he’s dealing with Matt Hughes, and then he’s “Not Impressed….”
I agree
No, he has nothing but respect for GSP. All fighters in the build up say they’re gonna win. Why wouldn’t they!
GSP is a class act and Dan Hardy is a character, but he has been 100% respectful to GSP, but all fighters have to go in there believing they can/will win, otherwise, they are already beaten.
by Alan Liddington on Mar 10, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
He stood toe 2 toe with Thiago..
Who is one of the hardest hitting fighters and he was fine just fine. Unfortunatly for Hardy the only thing hells fury has, is a “L” his record…
Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up they would pound each other behind the barn!"
Thiago was also gassed and tired from being squished
which I’m sure Georges will happily do to Dan aswell
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 10, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
ya he talks alot.. but everytime he talks shit he backs it up with a fucking W not a L
My Balls Your Chin
i never said he was undefeated...
i said he talks alot he did wt marcus davis he did wt mike swick.. and yes he did win both fights. thus the meaning he backs it up wt a W not a L
My Balls Your Chin
wtf is "wt"? with in short form is "w/" not "wt".
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 9, 2010 7:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I Like the Arrogance and I am Glad He is Confident
Because if you dont think your going to win why fight right? But I just dont see how Hardy will win this fight? Unless he clips GSP.
I expect GSP will surprise some people and hurt Hardy standing. His new muscle has no doubt increased his striking power, and his kickboxing is superior to Hardy’s. I’m sick of people saying that GSP’s striking is only effective because his opponents fear the takedown. He was wrecking good strikers early in his career before he became such a dominant wrestler.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
True.
Which Good Strikers did he Wreck though? I mean I agree I think he is better striking then Hardy but I dont think GSP ever wants to chance his button being punched. His wrestling is too good to not use it. That would be a stupid gameplan in my opinion.
by AintNoSunshine on Mar 9, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’ll use his wrestling, I just think he’ll send a message by showing his hands and feet a bit more in this one. He is aware of the criticism he’s received for taking his fights to the ground so much. He said in an interview that he wants a knockout. I take that to mean more than just GnP. And Spratt, Heiron, and Miller were considered good strikers at the time he fought them.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I Guess.
I dont classify those guys usually as good strikers. Hieron was more of a wrestling powerhouse I thought back then. But if you remember during the Penn II fight Greg told him between rounds okay lets kick box this round. And if he does that vs Hardy it will be after the 1st round.
by AintNoSunshine on Mar 9, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. If you look at the WW division back then, there really weren’t many guys with a high striking pedigree. Even now it’s a division dominated mostly by wrestlers. Alves, Daley, and now Hardy being the higher-tier exceptions.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Personally I think Hardy's stand-up is greatly overestimated, and that GSP will have his way with him no matter where the fight takes place.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
I don't think so
Hardy has been training stand up since he was six
GSP will not “have his way” with Hardy on the feet. Not saying GSP won’t hold his own on the feet, but there isn’t really much room between them there. If anything I would say Dan is a little more comfortable fighting on the feet and may well have an edge there.
I really doubt GSP will stand though, atleast not until he has squished the life out of Dan for a couple of rounds. All GSP ever seems to talk about these days is how he has to stop his opponent from doing this or that… I have to be careful of subs or stand up or kicks etc… his whole thing seems to be about winning by making sure that the other guy doesn’t win. If you see what I’m getting at. Dan Hardy: I’m going to try and knock him out, GSP:I have to be careful of subs and he’s good on his feet etc. he seems to be on the defensive, more concerned with not losing than winning convincingly. That’s why I don’t think he’ll stand until late second/3rd at the earliest, that’s if he spends any significant time on his feet.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 10, 2010 7:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not making a prediction as to when GSP will strike with Hardy, or for how long...
I just think he outclasses Hardy everywhere. Hardy is not the devastating striker people try to make him sound like. He always talks about KO’ing people, but his power isn’t that great. If they were fighting in a K-1 match, I would still pick GSP. He is quicker, faster, stronger, changes levels and mixes it up better, and has better kicks. I don’t understand the criticism about GSP’s gameplan. If I’m an NFL team, and I have an awesome offensive line, and Barry Sanders as the running back getting 150 yards a game, why would I change that? Would that team start throwing the ball just because fans want to see long touchdowns? Of course not. The object of the game is to win. Just as the object of the fight is to win. You do what gives you the best chance to win. Why would GSP just say, “Well, I’ve got great wrestling, and I know I can win by mixing it up, but fuck it, let’s just stand and bang for the hell of it.”? Just because the other parts of Hardy’s game aren’t as solid as GSP’s doesn’t mean he has better striking just because he has to use it more. GSP has been completely DOMINATING fights, and even when he doesn’t finish them, they are very convincing wins. You’re off base on that one.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
The scenario isn't exactly the same
a football game always lasts the same amount of time. Fighters are supposed to go in there with the aim of finishing.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 10, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
No
You fight to win. Doesn’t matter what sport you’re playing, you play to win. Especially when you’re the champ. You want to be the champ, you have to beat the champ. The objective of a fight is to win it, by any means necessary. The objective is not to win in the way certain fans want to see the fight won.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
bullshit
You fight to finish. That’s what fighting is, you’re supposed to hurt people. He is FIGHTING in the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship.
I’m sick of people accusing me of being a one dimensional fan because I like to see fights finished, and told that I don’t appreciate skill blah blah etc. Martial arts is about hurting the other guy, any practical martial art I have ever trained in is about hurting the other guy, ideally to the point that he can’t continue. What alot of you guys fail to realise is that a skilled martial artist finishes fights!!!!!
Not that I’m saying GSP isn’t skilled, his mentality is just all wrong.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 10, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I can watch hours of grappling where submissions are being attempted and they are fighting to win. Hell, i grapple myself. But holding a man down and jiggling about till the timer goes isnt skill, its stalling.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I didn't accuse you of being a one dimensional fan or that you don't like skill so you can calm down
Many martial arts, like karate(which GSP is a practitioner of), teach you to defend yourself. The goal is not to injure, the goal is to preserve your life and the life of others. Whether that means walking away or gouging someones eyes out. Martial arts is about defending yourself and winning the fight. Some teach you to do this through violence, others by avoidance. That’s one thing I don’t get. Recently people have started to love Machida’s style because he inflicts damage without taking any(the real goal of fighting). When Machida does this he is hailed as a great fighter and strategist because he employs a smart strategy. GSP does the same thing. He plays to his strengths, inflicts damage without taking any, and people say he is scared. It makes no sense. The goal of fighting is winning. In real life if I’m in a fight my goal is to walk away without any damage. The goal isn’t to make sure the other guy has to wake up in the hospital. If that’s a by-product of making sure I walk away safe with the win, so be it. But the goal of fighting is NOT to finish people. It is to win, and that is what martial arts teach. You say I fail to realize that a skilled martial artist finishes fights. Some do, some don’t. Depends what style you use. Machida and GSP are two of the most skilled fighters on the planet, and sometimes they finish fights, but often they don’t. One thing they both do is win though.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
Nice posts, Diceman. As usual.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Thanks man. I was actually considering turning this into a sort of fanpost, but couldn't bring myself to it.
I just wanted other people’s inputs on this. I knew I couldn’t be the only one that saw it similar to the way I see it.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
I gotta agree Dice...
That was a great reference using Machida. I never understood that myself and have this argument time and time again with my friends. One fighter is ellusive and the other is a pussy! Not sure how that figures.
As far as GSP goes, people forget the first half of his life he spent in Kyokushin Karate, which is a super offensive, hard line off shoot of Goju Ryu. Many of their tournaments are full contact and use Knockdown Karate point system (which means you are allowed to KO your opponent, the majority of tournaments penalize you for the KO).It is completely practical in the street. It was one of Bas Ruttens infleuntial styles. That being said, for all the hype behind Hardy’s stand up who has he KO’d? Rory Markham! I think GSP’s TKO of Jay Heiron trumps any ko Hardy has on his record. Anyone with half a skill set has taken Hardy the distance, I think GSP beats Hardy anyway he feels like it. More than likely he will play it safe but I can see him doing to Hardy what he did to Thiago. Make him fear the takedown in round 1 and 2, and punish him anyway he feels like after that. Thiago imo is much stronger then Hardy and I don’t see Hardy being able to stand up as easily as Alves did. I am not a GSP fan, I don’t hate him either, but I just don’t see how Hardy can win this fight even if GSP keeps it standing. Hardy has a punchers chance. It worked for Serra, maybe it will Hardy.
Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up they would pound each other behind the barn!"
I i agree jj
gsp has got sic striking he was a striker first grappler second.. thats a fact. hes just the best at mixing it all up in my opinion… i do think hardy has more power in his hands.. but yes gsp is a much better kickboxer..
My Balls Your Chin
Absolutely
ANS I couldn’t agree more I was reading through the comments and going to write this, but you beat me to it.
If you aren’t confident in yourself who will be? I want to see a good fight here, though it is almost unfathomable that Hardy would win, if he did it would be a guaranteed rematch, and even if (big if) Hardy finds a way to win 1, he will not win 2 against GSP.
I enjoy the banter though, and we all know Hardy does it to get in his opponents’ heads.
What we do in life echoes in eternity
Libera nos a malo
If Hardy said well Gosh Damnit I made one hell of a run
now GSP will beat me. Who wil care to watch. Sometimes the trash talk amps your opponent more or it can get into their heads take them out of game plan and may cause a mistake or error in judgement leading to openings.
by AintNoSunshine on Mar 9, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
GSP took a direct shot from Matt Serra...
Who I believe hits harder than Hardy does. He took it in one of the worst spots to get hit, and he didn’t go down right away. If he had managed to recover for even 10 seconds he might have been back in that fight.
Dan's a great B fighter but thats it!
Only reason he got the fight is the 3 top contenders (alves, fitch and kos) have all been beaten by GSP, Dan should really be fighting paulo thiago, Dan thinks hes got the best stand up going (or maybe just his fan club thinks that), well lets see him beat some one who is just getting good with his hands and has a sweet ground game, Paulo looks like the nick diaz, looving his fights at the moment
agreed, that'd be a great fight and I like Thiago too
I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a picture of him being used as a dartboard at AKA, lol.
big time
I really like the way he didn’t react to swicks feints in the last fight, he is very fast and improving quickly
remember when GSP fought Hughes the second time
people expected him to strike, then he just manhandled him on the groud. I’d love to see GSP stand with Hardy just to throw him off his gameplan. I’m sure Dan’s camp is prepping for take downs and gnp’s, but it’d be sweet if they never came.
ok, where have I been
I just checked Wiki and saw that Fitch and Alves are fighting on this card? Why is no one talking about that?
Maybe Because We Have Seen them Fight
Maybe sooner it comes the more hyped it will become
by AintNoSunshine on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
TRUTH!! cosa,
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I am still trying to figure out
how Hardy thinks he is going to KO GSP. I haven’t seen even good power from him in any of his UFC fights. He is not a devastating striker and I can’t imagine him ever decisioning the champ.
True...
Forgot about that. I still haven’t been impressed with his striking. But hey, if he even wobbles GSP, I would be impressed. I guess the Davis fight is in my mind and then Saunders came through and crushed Davis when Hardy struggled to get the Dec.
Hardy dropped Davis as well, he had Marcus done but didn't finish the job
I wouldn’t say that he struggled to get the decision either, though it was worrying seeing Marcus outwrestle him. Whilst his defensive wrestling has improved a lot since then, as proven in the Swick fight, it’s still nowhere near good enough to deal with GSP.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Gotta agree with Tuff.Gong here. I like Hardy but his power is being over-hyped to death here.
He’s got decent stand up, but lets not get carried away here. GSP knocks him out standing.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Swick would have gotten a title fight if he beat Hardy so I don't see the problem with Dan getting the shot instead
Besides Serra only fights once a year and is no longer a top contender while Fitch and Alves are set to face each other. Dan won’t beat GSP but when a champion is as dominant as GSP the only options are a one sided title fight or endless rematches.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Alves will improve if he keeps up with the training and Fitch has only lost to one other man in sometime.
Both these guys could be UFC champions if it wasn’t for GSP and that makes GSP’s accomplishments even better. I would like to see the winner of Fitch and Alves face BJ for another shot?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
BJ needs to win more than one WW fight to earn another shot.
He’s already had three unearned WW title shots in his career. Two against Hughes and one against GSP.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 9, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
True I just don't want to see him get a shot without going through at least one of these two?
Say Alves wins gets a shot loses and BJ has to go through Hardy and KOS. I would prefer to see BJ beat the second or third best at least witch is no doubt Fitch and Alves.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
its called hyping the fight.
Things Hardy says are supposed to get a reaction and it obviously works.So what if hes confident and cocky it’s all part of the mind games
It adds to the excitement for when the fight eventually comes around!
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
I like hardy personality
takes GSP nuts out of my mouth ok now i can talk properly LOL, yeah man cant wait really hope gsp beats him striking,been a while since i seen a tko from him,BJ penn wasnt a tko he just quit the bytch,well he didnt his bro did but kudos,im also a bj nuthugger so WTF!,yeah GSP BY TKO or I DARE say KO!
sexyama who's that girl?
aha i likey!
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Mar 10, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
ahhh shame
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Mar 10, 2010 8:17 AM EST reply actions
hahaha
‘sideboob vs underboob’
thats epicly good as are those fine young ladies
this is brightening up my day at work!
‘so what did you do at work today’
‘oh just looked at some nice young asian womens breasts’
haha!
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Mar 10, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
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