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MMA : What Grinds Your Gears?

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Since most of us love this sport so much, we also like to criticize the little things we dislike about it.  I find myself clenching my teeth when I see some of the stuff that pisses me off, so I thought I'd post this blog to hear about what gets your blood boiling?  Please be specific.  It could be certain rules, commentators (Goldie quotes much appreciated), certain fighters? they path of the sport?  tap-out/affliction shirts? lol.  Dumb fans?

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So, what grind's YOUR gears??

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When Goldie says, “one could argue that round 1 went to x and round 2 went to y, so this is the deciding round!”

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

what really grinds my gears

When people call Mike Golberg goldy I get really pissed because that’s what everyone calls me where i live and I don’t want the same nickname as Mike Goldberg lol

"do or do not, there is no trying"- yoda

by GOLDIGGAH on Mar 5, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

HA HA HA

Thats a real problem eh Goldie…. funny

by Bigger Zino on Mar 5, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Great topic

But you know, after thinking about it, I love the sport so much, I really don’t have anything negative to say about it. It’s not perfect, and some things are a bit annoying, but I take the good with the bad and just plain love MMA. Some intelligent things have been said here already, bad decisions, stand ups, etc … but I simply say, that’s how it is.

People grind my gears (TIM Sylvia) and posters here grind my gears sometimes, but they are separate from the sport, which I accept as a whole with it’s little faults.

'How's taste my pee pee pee?'

by theCloser on Mar 5, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

But yes, Mike Goldberg is an annoying tool

there’s the 2-3 Joe.
Cause I just learned that in my once every 2 week kickboxing class and now I think I sound pretty damn knowledgeable, Joe.

'How's taste my pee pee pee?'

by theCloser on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sideways tilted hats. Grow the fuck up.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It's hard not to appreciate Goldie

When you listen to K-1 commentator…Michael Schiavello. I can’t stand that guy. He has the worse analogies I’ve ever heard and he makes even the weakest jab seem like a thundering uppercut.

"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."

by Buster Bluth on Mar 5, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The voice is awesome!! I dont know how you can like goldie over him!

He’s funny and gets into the fights, plus he know’s WTF he is talking about…. Something goldberg rarely does..

"The Red-eyed Jedi...holds a 7th degree Black Belt in Bonghitisu"

by ItsNormlToSmokePot on Mar 5, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they both have their flaws, but Schiavello is way better than Mike “Look how hip I am, kids! I’m 50 and wear ripped-up jeans” Goldberg.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ha ha!

cock on man

SUPERMAN PUNCH!

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Buster The Voice is the shit. He may be over the top but at least he mixes it up. Plus the guy is a fuckin genius when I comes to his quotes.
“He’s a stud… there are no such things as lesbians in the world, just women who haven’t met Paul Slowinski yet”
Fuckin genius

JASONFAHQ is a troll

by bigbadbunbun on Mar 5, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I love it

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

SHF, you stole my Goldberg complaint about the Superman punch. Freedom35 incorrectly attributed the ‘Watch for the upkick Joe’ complaint to me, but it’s Goldie getting overly excited about EVERY superman punch that truly grinds my gears.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I've noticed the superman punch thing for a while amongst loads of other Goldberg classics

If you got in first I guess great minds think alike!

So funny when he just shouts it out over the top of Rogan. 99.999% of the time the punch doesn’t even land.

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If you can't find it.....GRIND IT!

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the way that he shouts it on the video game as well, even if you completely miss

As I’ve said before though the worst thing about Goldie is that he is seemingly looking for Rogan’s approval after saying anything, ain’t that right Joe? Form your opinion man.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 6:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate the lack of knowledge and honesty. You are not hearing things that go along with what you’re seeing, never!

the entertainment and money side of mma gets too much and it feels like they can do whatever they want and twist the rules just to get it.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 6, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

For me JeremyJackson

Hit the nail on the head with Goldie, he’s 50 years old and obviously thinks he’s 18. I bet he chases the octagon girls and every other girl whilst on the road too.

Ripped jeans, dodgy hair cut and absolutely no idea about any MMA discipline. Money for focking old rope. I would love his job!

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 6, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll make a quick list....

Goldy when he talks. He even sucks at play by play because he can’t tell left from right. He’s been around the sport longer than most yet knows less about MMA than boxing fans.

Other things include
2. TUF (it needs to die)
3. Stand and bang
4. World class when it’s not
5. rubber guard when it’s not
6. Couture titleshots/iconhood?
7. Pride vs UFC arguments
8. Florida, CA and Ontario commissions
9. WAMMA and zombie elite
10. Refs Jon Schorle, Peoples,Jorge Ortiz
11. Judges Peoples, Adelaide bird, Marcos Rosales, one shooto judge that most don’t know.
12. “Fight my fight”, “Push the pace,” and other bullshit and meaningless fight assessment/gameplans
13. Idiot promoters with dumb ideas based on MMA aka strikebox, Xarm
14. People who bash Nog
15. Kim couture.
16. many more

btw, Schiavello is the best play by play guy in MMA and kickboxing…….. GOOD NIGHT IRENE.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 6, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I AM OFFICIALLY LANDING THE BIG KABOSH ON BUSTER BLUTH FOR THAT ONE

The Voice is the shit!!!!!!!!!!

If he was announcing some Alabama promotion I’d watch it just for him or the hopes of finding Kyle Maynards legs.

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Mar 9, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

change kim couture to "cyborg" santos and

i would have the same list.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 10, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

the main thing I hate about both of them is they always say the same thing after a fight ends suddenly

goldberg: AND IT’S ALL OVER

schiavello: THE BIG KABOSH

by quidnunc on Mar 6, 2010 4:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Refs that suck, fighters that call out guys that they’ll never fight because they’re not in the same org, and fighters making excuses.

by LJ. on Mar 4, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

i guess that wasn't real specific. Sorry TW.

Steve Spazagotti, Dan Murgliota, Jake Shields, Tim Sylvia, and BEEEEEEEEE JAAAAAAAAAY PEEEEEEEEEN!!! LOL!

by LJ. on Mar 4, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

not having hdnet

Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.

by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 4, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Unnecessary apostrophe's

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 4, 2010 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Heh. And failing to finish sentences with periods

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted this because of the word ’grind’s’ in the title.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i just hate it when.......

2 fighters are rolling about on the floor like girls, sissies and the like, and just can’t stand up and duke it out like men, thats what i hate about mma.(or love about mma)…..

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 4, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

then... watch boxing or K-1? you know that they don't roll on the floor like sissies.

but if you were being sarcastic, then i apologize and am a stupid douchebag.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, i was being sarcastic.......

but that is my pet hate, “why don’t they just stand up and punch each other”, when someone is looking to pass the guard etc etc…

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 4, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

haha then im a stupid douchebag then

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

At Bars I hate

when Drunk Guy says Fighter X is a pussy. Like for example when Kos got knee’d in face/eye. Some guy was like Koscheck your a pussy get up he is faking it. And I look back and im like hey have u ever been knee’d directly in the eye/face?…. he responds with a clueless look. I reply with okay… do u want too?

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

And then the guy’s all like, “Daaaaaad! This drunk guy is threatening to knee me in the faaaace!”

;-)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Then

A bunch of drunk guys say oooooh…. and proceed to hype a fight.

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

A bunch of drunk guys followers say ooooooh… and proceed to hype a fight

JASONFAHQ is a troll

by bigbadbunbun on Mar 5, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

Actually This was a true story.

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I have heard some crazy stuff.

Like Finish Him Nogueira Choke That Old Fucking Man Out!!!!

That made me do a double take.

Also. What the Fuck Tito are you going to throw a punch?
Wait…. That might have been me.

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha! Don't let Roberto see this as you will be in a world of cyber-hurt.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha RoB's not that bad, he can accept Tito's flawed recent performances

Nobody could defend that third round from Tito, it was like a Griffin sparring match Tito didn’t do a damn thing.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 6:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm here now. :)

I was screaming the exact same thing or worse at home and always do when Tito fights, i’m very critical of his and all fighters performances but when you come here there are already someone who’s taken it over the top.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 6, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Every time I read a RoBerto post about Tito, I hear the song Stand By Your Man playing in my head.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 8, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You've been watching the Blues Brothers too many times

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 8, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

When Tim Sylvia used to wear his HW belt everywhere he went.

It’s sad when you gotta remind ppl who you are.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

everyone is entitled to there 15 mins, (or months of fame)...

but he did wear it every where he went………………100% true

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 4, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I would do the same thing

I would totally roll into a club with my belt, go up to a group of hot chicks and then be all ‘which one of you wants a world champion cock in your mouth?’

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing is that it works all the time.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Not all the time

Timmie couldn’t close the deal on Blind Date.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that I think about it, I think going out and getting a fake championship belt would be a sound investment. I could just make up a phony organization and declare myself the champ. How hard can it possibly be to find a few dumb broads who don’t know I made shit up?

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather go on my rep

no jokes pls.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Dubs. That shit would probably work. Until someone comes up and wants to fight you just because you are the champ.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully I would have a big enough posse to discourage any acts of aggression towards me. Or convince them that I am literally a lethal weapon and if I kick his ass I go to prison.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch!

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i hate(d)

when Rogan called Sexyama’s and Couture’s wins over Belcher and Vera “robberies” in front of all the fans and the PPV.
when Fedor/Anderson/GSP/Brock wins (its not that I dont like them, I just dont like some guys going on LOOONG ass undefeated streaks)(except Gegard Mousasi, cuz i like him)
when belts aren’t defended for 9 straight ppvs (like from 101-110 we only saw 3 title fights BJ/Kenny, BJ/Diego, Shogun/Machida)
when i win the first 2 fights on a parlay and lose the last one
when i fall asleep trying to watch Dream live
GSP’s new ground and pound (as opposed to the Sean Sherk and finishing of Matt Hughes @ 65 GNP)
Rampage being hyped as a super power striker (even though he’s only recently KO’d Eastman, Chuck and Wand [guys who are recently getting KO’d left and right], and couldn’t put away Hendo, Forrest, or Jardine)
Rich Franklin not being able to gain any momentum
Gerry Millen and anything he does or says
im sure there’s more, but we’ll leave it at that for now

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I appreciate Rogan's candor

I usually agree with him, but not always. The Vera/Couture and Belcher/Akiyama were pretty close, but the judges had it right “on points”. Most ppl watching the fights dont think about points, they just look at who won the fight as a whole or who did more damage.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it was very disrespectful,

call it a close fight, but for a guy who is supposed to be neutral calling it a robbery, just leaves a bad taste you know. and i thought Sexy and Randy won. I actually dont see how anyone could thought that Vera won that 3rd round by having mount for 4 seconds and not doing anything with it.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, i agree it is disrespectful

Which fight was it when he questioned judging in mma when conducting a post-fight interview? That was bad.

I saw both those fights for Randy and Akiyama, but they were very close. I also saw Machida>Shogun, barely.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i know for sure that Randy-Vera he said it in the post fight interview

i just watched it the other day.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

he said while talking to vera

that he got robbed, and he had this and that and he shoulda won, and we got to figure out a better way to judge these fights.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

when Fedor/Anderson/GSP/Brock wins (its not that I dont like them, I just dont like some guys going on LOOONG ass undefeated streaks)(except Gegard Mousasi, cuz i like him)

Yeah, that three-fight unbeaten streak that Lesnar is on has been quite the saga.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

lol. that was just literally when Brock wins, because i dont like him very much.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 5, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Unlucky for you Brock isn’t losing any time soon.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree P-dub

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i know.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 5, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

great liust snyster

How about when Goldberg started pronouncing Machida as "Masheeda, and so every douche bag online that was upset with the decision over Shogun started typing out “Masheeda” as to somehow diss him by mispronouncing his name, that grinds my gears.

by JRE on Mar 5, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Whenever someone refers to Tito Ortiz as a “businessman”.

Whenever a fighter brings his mom to speak on his behalf to an athletic commision.

Whenever a guy whose only victories have come against a 59 year-old Randy Couture, Heath Herring, and Fwank Mir is hailed as the best HW ever.

Whenever Moron Ranallo starts using his fake-ass “broadcaster voice”.

Whenever retards hate on fighters not in the UFC, then get all excited when they join the UFC.

Whenever fans try to explain how their favorite fighter was unjustly found to have steroids in his system. “They were prescribed by a doctor, he had a sore throat, someone put them in his drink”, etc.

Whenever the MMA media display how intimidated they are by Dana White by blindly kissing his ass. Ahem.

Whenever some mongoloid tries to prove a point by insisting that he’s been watching MMA since 1988.

Whenever MMA fans and media hate on boxing as if the two sports can’t coexist.

Whenever people seriously discuss the the contents of Nick Diaz’ latest interview.

Everything Rampage has said in the last 12 months.

The term “rape choke”.

Showdown Joe.

Douchy MMA T-shirts.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

JJ - Great Post!

I agree with almost all of it. You actually named my BIGGEST pet peeve and I didn’t even think of it when making this post: Showdown Joe!!! I would write about how much i hate that guy, but I have to go to work in 12 hours.

+1:
-Whenever someone refers to Tito Ortiz as a "businessman".
-Whenever a guy whose only victories have come against a 59 year-old Randy Couture, Heath Herring, and Fwank Mir is hailed as the best HW ever.
-Everything Rampage has said in the last 12 months.
-Showdown Joe.
-Douchy MMA T-shirts.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I would write about how much i hate that guy, but I have to go to work in 12 hours.

Heh.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually a fan of the rape choke

And I don’t get the one about Nick’s interview?

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Mar 9, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

buncha frakkin NEWBS

I have been watching MMA since Nov. 20, 1958, the day Rickson Gracie escaped the clinch of from his mother’s uterus with a spinning back kick, pulled rubber guard, and submitted her with an umbilical choke at 1min 15 seconds of age. That was the birth of MMA.

by (shonuff) on Mar 6, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 6, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

rec'd. epic.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 6, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i've been watching since 1985.....

but i am a mongoloid, and my knuckles do scrape along the ground when i walk in my erect position, and i do watch for the upkick joe (p-dub)

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 4, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not the one who gets annoyed by Goldie’s upkick warnings. I get annoyed when Goldie immediately jumps in with ‘superman punch’ as soon as someone throws one, even if it’’s nowhere even close to landing, because it seems to be his favorite move.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

what about Rogan's love for the leg kicks?

I mean, I appreciate the leg kicks sure, but it seems like every time a leg kick is thrown, Rogan acts like its devastating.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

GREAT LEG KICK BY SHOGUN!!!!

Even though I accept that Shogun should have won the Machida fight the fact that Rogan ignored all of Machida’s offense and screamed about how great Shogun’s leg kicks were is a big reason for so many people claiming that Shogun won a close fight so easily.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 6:29 AM EST up reply actions  

not only because i like Shogun so much.

But his legkicks were indeed devastating and the hardest we’ve ever seen thrown by a LHW. Shogun landed those over and over and Machida never really connected in that fight, his punches never really hit Shogun clean at any time.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't even see the fight with Rogan & Goldberg or anyone screaming about the legkicks either.

The commentators i listened too said it was close but that the edge should have gone to Shogun.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 6, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen

Shogun fought possibly the most smart, technical fight I’ve ever witnessed. People can say he didn’t convincingly win but that will never wash with me.

He won that fight without even breaking a sweat. He doesn’t need to break a sweat to win either before I get the replies! Champ fight or not.

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 6, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that Shogun won in a close fight, though the biased commentary did bother me

The fact that Machida was effectively immobile in the championship rounds shows how good Shogun’s leg kicks were. However they weren’t the only offensive moves in the fight, just the only ones that Rogan and Goldie acknowledged.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Rogan hardly acknowledged the punches Shogun was eating when he threw those leg kicks. The commentating did infact sway ppls opinions. I watched that fight three times, and it was razor close, but I gave it to Machida. If the entire fight counted as a whole, Shogun woulda won. He worked Machida’s leg real well, but I believe Machida won the first 3 rounds by a thin margin.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 7, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

well, the punches he took were weak and lost steam for every kick Shogun landed

If you watch closely you’ll see Machida reaching very much and therefore not getting any damaging power behind them.

the fight was close but it was 4-1 to Shogun and i have the luxury these days of not listening to Rogan & Goldberg.
Both of the commentators for swedish TV have been training mma for very long and one of them owns a gym and is an mma trainer, he was the first swedish mma pro also and they know very much about all disciplines so it’s great.

Rogan & Goldberg can be entertaining but they are too involved in the UFC business and are in a position where they can’t critizize and be fully honest.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 7, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck commentators anyway, i form my own opinions anyway.

but the UFC commentating is something else.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 7, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

One day I hope to throw a superman punch at Goldie just to see if announces it as it connects with his jaw.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Would probably sound like

“Hey, Joe here comes an anfry fan, he seems to be swearing at us, Holy shit, superma……..zzzzzzz”

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

anfry=angry

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Better watch out

Goldie’s got a mean upkick

"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."

by Buster Bluth on Mar 5, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

can i swing you round by your ankles first, rather like a discus thrower..........

your bound to be able to kill everyone at ringside, then," watch for the up/ high kick joe", "superm………..crunch, that would be funny….

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 5, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Possibly. If you wear your hat straight we’ll let it fly.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. If it says Jesus Didn’t Tap on it, I want you to kill yourself. Otherwise, we’re cool.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like wearing XtremeCouture

Its funny as many people out there wear TapOut as a trend considering TapOut was nothing several years ago

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I like to wear not one but two popped collars underneath an Ed Hardy shirt with an Affliction hat turned sideways. Does that make me cool and as tough as the fighters I see on TV?

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Probably

But Not as Tough As Anderson Silva in Pink.

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

mine says...

go on, twist my ankle 360, i’ve got beer and dope in the house so i’m not bothered

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 5, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, I wold get booted pretty quickly when I called them all a bunch of fucking meatballs.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 10, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

ANS - Ya gotta be under 30 years old to get away with douchy t-shirts (unless you fight for a living). Otherwise, its d-bag city.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You have my blessing. Wear your douchy shirt in peace, my son.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel weird wearing the TapOut Shirts.

At least if I wear Silver Star nobody really knows what that is.

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Sooner or later your Silver Star t-shirt will be consumed by the masses. Give it time...

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I live for a fighting.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i was big on Xtreme Couture too, until a bunch of tools started on that one.

ironically, i was going to switch to Silver Star… fighter signature series, of course.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 5, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm 20, so that gives me 10 years of wearing douchy t-shirts without being a douche

I’ll have to get a Dan Hardy TapouT shirt and bandana in time for the next UK show or the Vegas card I’m going for my 21st. Can’t not buy an Andy Silverstar shirt either. Might even get a Brazilian flag.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 6:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol at the Brazilian flag

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 6, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe in 10 years we can get together and cry about the fact that we can't wear our douchy shirts without being a douche

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 6, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe some of us old guys can get together and wear all our douchey shirts together. Then we can all be ‘that guy’ at the bar.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 7, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

War douchey t-shirts

Who knows, in 10 years time they’ll be retro so we could get away with wearing them. Beats dressing like a chav when you’re 30 anyway.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I only have like 5 more weeks of being allowed to wear one of the MMA shirts that I recieved as presents

Just cause I watch MMA doesn’t mean I am required to dress like a douchy tool, right? LOL I wish everyone knew this.

Still got the tags. If anyone needs to look more like a tool, email me, I’ll sell em cheap.

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Mar 9, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 to:

Whenever some mongoloid tries to prove a point by insisting that he’s been watching MMA since 1988

Whenever Moron Ranallo starts using his fake-ass "broadcaster voice".

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

that was intended to reply to JJ

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

-When MMA fans are hypocrites. (Boxing vs MMA, when boxing is a huge part of MMA)

-Anyone crying over a decision loss. Don’t let it go to decision next time, moron.

-Anyone crying over a quick stoppage. The refs, in many cases may suck, but thay are all we got, and Big John or Herb can’t be everywhere at once.

-Anything Mike Goldberg says.

-BJ Penn’s mom. Because her boy couldn’t have just gotten his ass handed to him.

-Anything Matt Hughes says. Fucking Jesus hypocrite, the worst kind. Go read your fucking bible and let me make my own decisions.

-YUS! Weird Zen shit.

-Everybody having a fucking nickname. I propose an MMA law saying that you do not get a nickname until you reach 10 wins or have a highlight reel something that confirms your nickname. And if all of a sudden you suck, you are not allowed to use it anymore. Yes, I am talking to you Mike ‘Dan Hardy KnockedMeTheFuckOut because I am no longer Quick’ Swick.

And last but not least…

-M-1 – Because I do not get the chance to know if Fedor is better than Mir, JDS, Cain, Carwin, or Lesnar, even though I think at least one of them can beat him, but won’t believe it until I see it and am sick of arguing about it. (how’s that for a run-on sentence?)

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

you can't really blame the fighter for a decision though

it can be hard to finish these guys if they’re on the top of their game.

but i do agree on the nickname thing. that, and how it seems every other guy is “Hitman” or “Assassin”

fuckin tools [[even though i like Kampmann and Hathaway, both are “Hitmans”]]

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 4, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

But you know the judges can job you.

Take the chance to finish, it is still a fight. We are not boxing fans who really only care about wins and losses. If you go for the kill and get Scott Smith’d, so be it. I will still want to watch you and will pay for the events you are in if you try to finish every fight.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Not everyone has the punching power or submission skill to finish a fight

That doesn’t mean that they suck. Not everyone is born with the power to KO an opponent or has the skill to end a fight with a slick submission. Also some guys are notorious difficult to finish, that doesn’t make them worldbeaters who deserve to win every fight. It’s bad enough when fighters lose because of some incompetent idiot giving the win to someone who clearly didn’t win but it makes it even worse when they are blamed for not being able to finish their opponent.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Where do I ever say a guy sucks because he doesn't finish?

I want to see a fighter trying to finish, it doesn’t mean he has to. I am not one of the knucle draggers that only want guys to stand and slug it out, but you are there to win, at least try to win. Make the judges know who won the fight if it goes to a decision. If you get beat by a better guy that day, and gave it your all, so be it. I just don’t like fighters who openly cry about losing decisions. Grow up and accept defeat like a man. Hell, Matt Hammill has arguably the worst decision loss in the history of the sport and he didn’t sry. He manned up and said he needed to do more to impress the judges next time. THAT IS THE TYPE OF ACCOUNTABILITY I AM TALKING ABOUT.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Good response

I just get annoyed when people complain when a fight isn’t finished and act as if the fighter deserves to lose a decision because they were unable to finish the fight. I agree that it’s exciting watching people trying to finish, I just think that some guys have a right to complain if they work hard to defeat an opponent only for a judge to take that away from them.

I’m not a Hamill fan but he’s a class act and showed his character in dealing with that poor decision against Bisping as well as the DQ win over Bones. I wish more fighters could take his attitude instead of whining because they didn’t win a fight, especially when they deserved to lose the decision in the first place

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

ULF Murray

I gotta agree with some of that shit. I am more excited to see Melvin Manhoef again than I am to see Robbie Lawler again, even though Lawler won I was more impressed with MM. And that is only one example of being more excited about the loser than the winner.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This topic refers almost exclusively to Unanimous Fitch and Huggie Bear.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

All credit to ViolentMike.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Loser > Winner

Another example…Cung Le. The guy is amazing, but everyone forgets quickly after a loss. It’s as if ppl don’t even watch fights, they just look at their records. Cung Le put on a clinic, but then got caught. Cung Le smokes him 8/10 times. I can’t believe ppl question him still.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He hasn't beaten anyone other than Frank Shamrock and even then it was more because of Shamrock's non-strategy than Cung's skill

He has great kicks but that’s it, I called the Smith KO and when he KO’d Dung I became a fan of the guy for life.

Melvin’s the man as well, he was destroying Lawler but it looks like his chin is suspect afterall, I think that it was Lester who called him out for it originally and I dismissed that idea. I was soon taking that back haha.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 6:35 AM EST up reply actions  

i can't wait to see mm again

perfect example jay. that fight really got me interested in not only seeing him fight again but seeing if he can improve his weakness’s. definitely made me a fan…

Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.

by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 5, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And you are the second guy who says I "blame" fighters for going to a decision.

I don’t get how my words translate into the fiction you both create. Did I bring back memories of an argument with someone else?

Let’s set the record straight…
I DON’T blame fighters for going to decisions.
I DON’T think guys suck for going to decision.
I DO hate people who think the wrongs of their lives are other peoples fault, including fighters who cry over decisions whether justified or not. Work harder and do better next time. Life sucks. Someone is going to job you at some point.
I DO think the quality in judging in combat sports blows, but DON’T care enough to do it professionally, which apparently is not that hard considering the guys who do it now.
I DO think that we will agree to disagree on this matter

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe we won’t disagree based upon your response above

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha it's all good mate

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless its a beating like Diego/Guida. Having a healthy ego is one thing but deluding yourself is something else entirely.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Some brain-dead fucktard actually awarded that fight to Guida, so he wasn’t the only delusional one.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

In the matter of Robbed decisions

Vera vs Couture was purely Veras fault. He “could” have finished couture

by AintNoSunshine on Mar 5, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If you go for the kill and get Scott Smith’d, so be it.

Tell that to the guy who got Scott Smith’d (or Robbie Lawler’d?). He’s that much closer to brain damage and has to work his way back up the ladder, all so you could have another split-second of entertainment.

The truth of the matter is, a lot of casual fans do judge a fighter by wins and losses, because they can only recognize a handful of them.

If an opportunity to win the fight by KO presents itself, you take it… but if you are winning a fight that will take you to bigger and better things, then you stay the course and get the W. I don’t want to see guys who have dick-all technical skill whaling away at each other every fight in a desperate attempt to land a hail Mary. One Lebenesque fighter per card is enough for me. Not to mention that a lot of guys’ styles and skill-sets just aren’t conducive to a lot of KO finishes… and by attempting to do so they put themselves at unnecessary risk of getting dropped themselves.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s that much closer to brain damage.

This is a contact sport, of course he is. He is also getting the opportunity to make more money than you or I can dream of by going all the way to a championship. It is called the risk of doing business. There is also the risk of dropping down the laddder when you get KTFO, or dropping out of the casual fans line of sight because all you do is try to outpoint the other guy. Ever wonder why Machida is not appreciated more by the casual fan? Until T. Silva, all he seemed to ever want to do is outpoint guys. I am not saying he is not good and not appreciated by certain fans, but this is entertainment. Fans appreciate the dramatic and want to pay for the dramatic. The casual fan does not want to pay for point karate, submission grappling or lay and pray wrestling. They pay for KO’s and submissions.

Mike Tyson is always going to be the most popular boxer of his generation. Why? Because he KO’d almost everyone who got in his way. Not because he was a more technical boxer.

but if you are winning a fight that will take you to bigger and better things, then you stay the course and get the W

Tell that to Shogun. Oh wait, his trainers did that and he lost a fight he should have won. Glad he got the rematch. Betcha he either knocks Machida out or gets KO’d.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike Tyson is always going to be the most popular boxer of his generation. Why? Because he KO’d almost everyone who got in his way. Not because he was a more technical boxer.

And why did he KO everyone who got in his way? Because he was a fantastic technical boxer, who happened to be blessed with once in a generation power. You think the rest of HW division was choosing to not be like Mike?

Tell that to Shogun. Oh wait, his trainers did that and he lost a fight he should have won. Glad he got the rematch. Betcha he either knocks Machida out or gets KO’d.

Backwards example. Shogun’s loss to Machida put him on the map to casual fans and made his fanbase grow a thousandfold in North America. He was losing the in-close punching exchanges, and would probably have been KO’d if he’d rushed in for the kill.

If Machida had dropped him nobody would be talking about Shogun right now, and all these fans wouldn’t be dangling from his nuts. I could cite one hundred examples of a guy hanging on and winning a decision and a title, you can cite one example to the contrary. One bad decdision shouldn’t discourage a fighter and make him do something stupid when he’s winning a fight.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

fantastic technical boxer

Mike Tyson was a brawler that could get off faster and hit harder than anyone else in the division. If history, which apparently is you, believes he was a fantastic technical boxer, what was Larry Holmes?

Shogun’s loss to Machida put him on the map to casual fans

Only because of the controversy. If he had KO’d Machida in the first round, it would have created as much stir. You are right in that guys who think they are winning will always coast through. Sometimes they will get jobbed for it. Most times they won’t. I don’t have to like it.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If you don’t think Tyson was a fantastic technical boxer then with all due respect, sir… we are done here.

Fantastic footwork, fantastic defense, fantastic jab, fantastic, timing, fantastic accuracy, fantastic left hook, fantastic straight right, fantastic right hook, fantastic right uppercut = FANTASTIC TECHNICAL BOXER.

Not a boxing fan are you, Ulf?

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Huge boxing fan. That is the reason for my Larry Holmes comment. Comparing them technically would be huge disservice to Holmes.

Tyson did have great footwork, but he never needed to develop his game to the level of a Holmes, Armstrong or Ali, the great technical heavyweights. He was so much faster and hit so much harder than the heavyweights of his era that he didn’t need to. That doesn’t automatically qualify him as a great technical boxer.

Tyson never really developed more than a servicable jab because he never fought guys his height. He had to use hooks, uppercuts and good head movement to get inside and unleash hell, which he was very good at. But, this happened because of his speed and timing, which are as much innate abilities as trained abilities.

Stop putting Tyson on such a pedestal. He is not even top 5 all time, but he was a very good brawler.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Tyson,not top 5 of all time???

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ali, Armstrong, Robinson, Foreman, Holmes

If you actually believe that Mike Tyson would have won more than 3 or 4 out of 10 against ANY of these guys, you should probably do some more research.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Robinson was a middleweight.

And Tyson in his prime would definitely clobber Holmes, probably KO Foreman, and Ali, well, who knows.

Making comparisons to fighters form other eras is pointless. Nobody knows. But we do know that sports as a whole tend to evolve… for example kockey players and MMA fighters today are much faster, stronger and more skilled than players from 20 years ago… so if boxing follows the same trend then Tyson was better than his predecessors.

One thing IS for sure… he was by far the best of his era, which is more than you can say for Holmes and Foreman.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant Joe Louis, and all I could picture in my head was Robinson. Again, typing before thinking. I need to slow down or have you guys laugh me out of here.

Just because you are not the best of your era does not mean you are not top 5 all time if you fought with Ali, and just because you are the best of your era does not make you better all time. The Klitschko’s are a perfect example of that.

I stand by my picks, with the substitution. :) And I think you are underestimating Larry Holmes, but opinions are like…

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

My pops used to go on about how great the Brown Bomber was, and I have read about him and watched some film, but for me it was so long ago he may as well have been fighting in a Roman coliseum.

I will throw out there that HWs were much smaller then (Joe fought at about 200 pounds) and I simply can’t see a prime Tyson losing to a smaller man. Louis was definitely the man in his era, though. Too bad he didn’t quit when he was ahead.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It goes back to the argument you made earlier about comparing era’s. I just try to look at how they did in their era, and compare how good that era was to all time. So, I have three guys from the best era of all time, I beleive that era was that good. (although I believe Holmes was the dominant hwy in between the Tyson and Ali era’s and that it was the Holmes era. Maybe being Pennsylvania born and bred and having my father and uncle preach the greatness of Holmes over and over again wore off.)

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOL

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Mar 9, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike Tyson was a brawler that could get off faster and hit harder than anyone else in the division.

So is Pacauiao. Is he not a good technical boxer either, Bert Sugar?

Only because of the controversy.

I disagree. People saw that he got the better of Machida for five rounds, and they apppreciated the great talent that required. Getting knocked out would have ruined that.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If you watched the Pacquiao/Marquez fights, you would know the difference between a great technical boxer and just a good one, Pacquiao.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

Simply.

Wow. Marquez has a great counter right and a great chin. He is essentially a one-handed, slow, one-dimensional fighter compared to Pac, who has grown by leaps and bounds since their third bout.

You seem like a good guy Ulf, but If you walked into my gym and made the above statement, you would be literally laughed out of the joint. I think you need to reassess exactly what “technique” actually is.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Boy, that was a heat of the moment comment. I shoulda stopped to think on it more.

At the time of their second fight, Marquez was the better boxer and Manny was still ‘only’ considered a puncher, but you are right. I concede on that one. Not Tyson in th top 5 though.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Props for admitting that.

Good debate Ulf, I have to actually do some work now. I’m sure we’ll have another down the road.

Cheers.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah got to go wit JJ

 If your judging Mike’s technical ability against other boxers styles as a measuring stick I can see were your coming from. But that is were the problem is with judging Mike as his technique was unique and should not be measured with typical styles. Mike may not be in the top five as all time careers go but for a brief period of time I think he was one of the greatest ever.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

My Overall comment

Is Tyson was possibly the best boxer of all time without being overly technical, the problem is people just started figuring out his style and keeping distance from his hooks. Not the best technical of all time or close, possibly best puncher and most powerful though.

by theworldismine on Mar 5, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think other boxers figured out his style

 I feel his game started to fall when Cus died. He may of appeared the same but his timing was off as was his focus on boxing. Mike was a grown man with a very low education for the real world and needed guidance were Mike turned was to those after his wallet and turned Mikes focus away from boxing.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if you can “figure out” someone who’s faster, more accurate, and more powerful than you are. Especially if they have great timing, footwork and defense.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Its like Bruce Lee said. Take what you can. Discard what is useless to you and add what is essentially your own. With a body like Ali of course you want to use your length to your advantage. Iron Mike was not as blessed vertically. But he makes up for it with power and killer instinct. Does it make Ali better than Tyson or vice versa? Who knows? We’ll never see it so all we can do is look at the numbers. And if going by numbers its Rocky without a doubt. Only HW champ to go undefeated his entire career. Not to meantion finishing more than 90% of his opponents. (victims)

JASONFAHQ is a troll

by bigbadbunbun on Mar 5, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I used Mike Tyson vs. Ali in my Fight Night game

And Ali won all the time, so I think I just ended this debate for you guys.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL my buddy kicks my ass with Roy Jones when I’m Ali

JASONFAHQ is a troll

by bigbadbunbun on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

True that JJ greatest ever is 100% opinion

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha hilarious argument jay

I usually KO my mate when he keeps picking Sugar Ray Robinson, also when I pick Roberto Duran he always KOs Pernell Whitaker.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 6:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. You mean Marciano and not Balboa, right? LOL.

Marciano was one of the few guys who got out when he was still at the top of his game.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you can

Utilize reach and you can beat anyone with Tysons style. Its true his mental state had declined, but his style was based primarily on bobbing, weaving, and landing power hooks. If you keep him away with jabs and footwork, clinch when he gets close, and avoid most of his head hooks you can definitely beat him. Lewis did, and Holyfield with a little help from headbutts lol

by theworldismine on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Lewis and Holyfield beat a coked-out, fucked up Mike Tyson. Tyson would have murdered either of them a few years earlier. Lewis knew it, and ducked Tyson, along with pretty much everyone else, for years.

Every opponent Tyson faced was taller than him and tried to utilize the exact same strategy you just described. They all failed miserably and kissed canvas.

All fighters fade, some earlier than others. Some carry on way past their prime. Tyson, in his time and in his prime, was invincible.

Revisionist history sucks.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

 When Tyson was firing on all cylinders you could see the passion and desire that he fought with, I use to get goose bumps when he stepped in the ring and almost feel the passion looing into his eye’s and that was though a 20" bubble screen TV!

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate ppl who say...

“Don’t let it go to decision next time, moron.” -Decisions are part of the sport. Judges should be accountable, but fighters should be trying to finish also.

But you redeemed yourself with:
-Everybody having a fucking nickname. I propose an MMA law saying that you do not get a nickname until you reach 10 wins or have a highlight reel something that confirms your nickname. And if all of a sudden you suck, you are not allowed to use it anymore. Yes, I am talking to you Mike ‘Dan Hardy KnockedMeTheFuckOut because I am no longer Quick’ Swick.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

So do you hate me or not?

and you left the part about crying about the decision, not just going to decision. If you felt you got robbed by the decision, look in the mirror for the reason why. Yes, decisions are apart of the sport, but so is the accountability that comes with losing a decision.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec this thread, guys. It is worthy.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I hate that too Two_Words

It’s an ignorant and a retarded comment since rushing in for the finish when your in the lead would be incredibly stupid especially when there’s so much on the line.

Do you see teams in other sports pushing the tempo even harder once they have the match in the bag? no you don’t, they try to secure the victory.

as far as the boxing argument, it obviously takes technique to be able to score that many KO’s. It may not be the flashy technique ppl prefer to watch but it’s still technique. You’ll never see a guy like Bisping KO anyone with his hands because he doesn’t know how to punch hard, he has zero technique when it comes to the hooks or how to turn into his punches.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 6, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Machida is a master at beating guys who rush in, the reason that I thought that he’d win in the first place was that I was expecting Shogun to be overaggressive. The reason that Shogun won the fight was that he fought smart and picked apart Machida with leg kicks, beating him up for 25 minutes without taking unneccessary risks. If he’d have rushed in then he’d have undone all of that hard work. Maybe he could have done what Wand did against Bisping and looked to end each round aggressively but that doesn’t mean that he deserved to lose a fight that he clearly won because of poor judging.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Using your head is A and O in sports. Hope he does the same in the rematch, and that the same judges aren’t scoring the fight that’d be a scandal if the same thing happened again.

familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

by RoBerto. on Mar 7, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Great win, though we got lucky as their goalkeeper got unfairly sent off when it was 0-0

Still it was a huge win and seeing how West Brom lost this could be the weekend that effectively seals our championship win. As long as we keep our stars fit and remain unbeaten at home we should have no problems at getting promoted.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

as much as Dana has done for the sport...

I hate how far he sets it back with his idiocy. One day he’s trying to convince the public that it’s a legitimate sport and that the athletes should be respected, and the next he’s running his mouth about how 2 guys “want to get in the cage and F@#%ING kill eachother”.

I'm always thinking one step ahead. Like a carpenter . . . who makes stairs.

by supernova224 on Mar 4, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

You know what really grinds my gears?

When people say “never let a fight go into the hands of the judges” to justify a terrible decision, sorry people not all fights can end in stoppages. That doesn’t mean that a guy deserves to lose a fight simply because they didn’t finish it.

When people dismiss top strikers as only having a “puncher’s chance” in a fight. Would you say that a BJJ practitioner or a dominant wrestler only has a “grappler’s chance”? Didn’t think so. There’s no such thing as a lucky punch, you don’t accidentally KO someone in a fight. That’s just a lazy excuse to criticise an underdog for winning a fight or a striker for being able to do what he is the best at.

When people criticise the skillset of the p4p greats Andy, Fedor, GSP and BJ. It’s laughable that they get criticised for not fighting in the division that people want or for winning a fight the wrong way. Quite frankly they are the best 4 MMAsts that the sport has ever seen and none of the criticism makes any sense, it just makes you look bitter and jealous.

When fighters or fans make excuses for a defeat, I don’t care what your training was like or whether you have any injuries part of the job is being physically and mentally prepared to take on and defeat your opponent, if you couldn’t get into shape or weren’t ready then tough shit you blew it before the fight. If you can’t make the weight or stay healthy then you’re obviously not cut out to be one of the best fighters in the world and whining about what might have been is just holding you back.

When referees stand-up fights for no reason, simply because the crowd is booing because the drunks don’t appreciate the grappling aspect of the sport. Referees shouldn’t have the power to dictate where a fight takes place simply because they’re bored, that’s insane. You don’t see a referee in a football match deciding that the other team deserves possession because those with the ball aren’t doing enough to entertain him. The ref should only be there to keep a fight fair and safe, the last thing on their mind should be how entertaining a fight is. Top grapplers have lost fights because a ref has taken away their dominant position for no reason and that can be the difference between them winning titles or being unemployed. It really takes away from the legitimacy of the sport.

I could go on all day doing Peter Griffin “grinds my gears” rants about MMA, but I’ll stick with this top 5 of pet hates. Trust me there are a lot more that I have but I’ll leave it at that at least for now.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

great post David

“When people criticise the skillset of the p4p greats Andy, Fedor, GSP and BJ.” – I think some fans just like to talk shit about these guys just to make it seem like they aren’t part of the masses. If you really know MMA, you’d appreciate their skills…and everyone has a hole in their game. And I hate ppl who hate BJ Penn because they’re GSP fans, or vice versa. I appreciate both their skills and love watching them both fight – I don’t affiliate myself exclusively with one guy. What if GSP and BJ became good friends, is everyone gonna start liking BJ again?

Excuses. The way I see it, if you step into the cage/ring, you’re agreeing to the fight as-is. You come as you are. If you’re gonna say somethin after the fight if you lose, then back out before the fight, I got no problem with that. Hear that Tito??

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Tito is the worst for excuses and it doesn’t half get annoying when BJ and GSP fans bash each other for being a fan of a world class fighter. I’m not bashing all of there fans, some of them are very fair and intelligent, it’s just really grinds my gears when the cocky fans talk down to other people for being a fan of someone else and try to pick apart the record and skills of a proven legend.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of both BJ and GSP because, well, they both kick ass...

I really don’t get the insults between both groups. it’s like “which side of the cafeteria are you gonna sit at?” highschool crap. Gimme a break. I appreciate good fighters, just like I appreciate good football and good hockey. Im a former leafs fan, but no longer. Why? because they dont represent what I like. I’m not gonna like a team because I live in the City – ppl just look at me weird when I say that. I like talented hockey and the same goes for football and mma. I get called a bandwagon jumper alot, but at least im true to myself.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You probably also like the Red Sox AND the Yankees, right?

(smile)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh, got me there, for some reason I can't like a team from NY.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck the Yankees and the Red Sox. Go buy another championship you chowdah-eating douchebags and canoli-stuffing dickheads.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed on most counts

Especially since we apparently settled the decision argument above.

However,

Referees shouldn’t have the power to dictate where a fight takes place simply because they’re bored.

This all boils down to entertainment. I wish we could have unlimited time limit grappling matches. I enjoy them immensely. Unfortunately we do not. We have 3 or 5, 5 minute rounds in which a fighter needs to prove his dominance by winning the fight. Most of the fans here cry about the lay and pray style of some wrestlers, and would be put off buying a PPV if too many of these fighters were paired together on one card. At the end of the day, if you feel like your $44.95 was not well spent, you hesitate to buy the next one in two weeks or a month. DW does not want that, so the refs have been given the power to stand you up, not because they are bored, but because they want to work again. It is business influenced and therefore not pure.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 4, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said, but what is pure in the sporting world these days.

Besides, of course, Canada’s Olympic gold in hockey.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

storybook ending!

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God that Canada won the gold or there would have been a spike in suicide attempts, eh?

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean the gold won by millionaires from the country who invented the sport who were heavily favored?

And don’t give the Russian 1a argument. Did you see their D and G options? They had no chance from the start. (I also have sour grapes because I thought Ryno could do it again)

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Right, so if we lose, we suck and you rub it in our faces.

If we win, we invented the sport so it’s no accomplishment.

It was funny watching you guys pretend to be interested in hockey for a couple weeks. Once you’re not the best in something, your interest wanes pretty fast, huh.

By the way, England invented soccer… I don’t see them bringing home World Cup trophys all the time.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the Mayans invented soccer by kicking around the severed heads of their enemies? Serious question.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I know for sure England invented rugby, and that rarely win at that either.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha that wasn't a sport

We invented football, rugby (both codes), cricket and tennis. We’ve always been decent at football and rugby though our club teams have been much better than our international teams (we have won world cups in both sports but a lot less than other nations) but the fact that a British tennis player hasn’t won a grand slam since Fred Perry in the 30s shows how poor we are at tennis. Our domestic cricket scene isn’t great and our international team usually do well in tests but are shocking in one-day and 20-20 games. We usually do poor in the world cups but have beaten the Aussies in the Ashes the last 2 times that the series was at home, though they whitewashed us in their country in between those test wins. We’ve had a lot of great F-1 drivers though and British drivers and constructers took the championships in the last 2 seasons. Our boxing scene has also been very good and we have a few world champions in Haye, Khan and Froch as well as top contenders like Mitchell.

Our record in our own sports is poor but for a small country we are usually competetive in major international sports at least and have produced some world class teams and sportsmen. Some sections of the media and fans expect too much but right now we are doing well in a lot of sports and are set to host the Olympics in a couple of years, after having a superb performance in the last games, so I can’t complain about not dominating every sport even those that we created.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

WOW. Struck a nerve.

I am sure I have been a hockey fan for pretty much as long as you have been alive, probably longer, but since you have no idea why I have the name I have, tells me how much of a hockey historian you really are. But don’t kid yourself, you should have won the gold and you should have won the gold 4 years ago.

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Larry Murphy and Ulf Samuelsson? Yeah, I get it guy.

And if you’ve been a hockey fan for 33 years, congratulations. You should redirect to what grinds my gears:

Whenever some mongoloid tries to prove a point by insisting that he’s been watching MMA since 1988

Not calling you a mongoloid, however. You seem like a reasonably intelligent fellow.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

When being called out for only being interested in the Olympics, when I have the name I have, makes me assume I am conversing with an 18 year-old who believes the sun rises and sets with Sid or AO, and who never had a chance to watch The Great One or Le Magnifique in person for many years.

I thought the point of this banter was to grind your gears? Did I miss something? And 30 years is more like it. Syl Apps in the baby blues!!

And just wondering, am I only reasonably intelligent because I disagree with you?

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

And just wondering, am I only reasonably intelligent because I disagree with you?

You write coherent sentences, which is a big plus on this board. After reading your above post concerning Tyson, I’m afraid I may have to downgrade my evaluation.

And I didn’t call you out. You made a typical sore-loser, pissy American comment about losing the tourney. I returned the favor. I don’t know how long you’ve been reading this board, but trust me: when I call you out you’ll know it.

And just wondering Ulf, if your team hadn’t been given three of the last four best players on Earth over the last 25 years, would you even be interested in hockey?

Just teasin’ with the last one, Sensitor.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The refs are supposed to be impartial and hired by the athletic commissions

The last thing on their mind should be making fights entertaining in order for Zuffa to make more money, they are not Zuffa employees and they should feel no pressure to do what Dana and the Fertittas want them to. The UFC should have no influence over referees whatsoever, otherwise it brings into question the legitimacy of the fights and that is something that I never want to see happen.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In a perfect world they would be,

but look at the referees. McCarthy is ‘supposed’ to be a part of a pool who is ‘randomly’ drawn to officiate UFC events in the states where he is licensed. Funny how before his affiliation with another company he ref’d every major UFC event and since his affiliation he has not ref’d any. Coincidence, or are you really this naive?

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 5, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The Big John situation is very shady

I’ve been bashing the UFC and the NSAC a lot for that whole farce, it is very troubling that arguably the best ref in MMA has been blackballed from major promotions. The UFC shouldn’t have any influence over referees, otherwise how can the fights be considered legitimate?

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

David just covered all of my pet peeves. Get out of my head! :)

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Great minds think alike mate

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post David, but I have to take issue with this statement:

There’s no such thing as a lucky punch,

A statement which has become quite commonplace around here.

Allow me to clarify.

There IS such a thing as a lucky punch. Ask any pro boxer. The only ones who deny the existence of lucky punches are the guys who suck, and therefore know any win they get against a high-level opponent will likely be the result of one.

If you have boxed in the gym, you will know from sparring that there are guys you can school every time you get in there, and one time out of twenty he wings a wild right hook at you and you walk into it.

Here is the crux of the argument: just because you were trying to do something, doesn’t mean if you achieve it you didn’t get lucky.

People say, “b-b-b-but he was aiming for his head with the punch! It j-j-j-just can’t be lucky.” Sure it can. I was aiming for the hole all day on the golf course. If I hit a hole-in-one, did I get lucky? Of course I did. And the fact that I was aiming for the hole doesn’t change that, does it?

How many times have you watched a hockey game where a seeing-eye shot finds it’s way off traffic in front and into the back of the net, and a team that was totally outclassed for the entire game ends up winning?

Wait, you’re English. The hockey analogy ain’t gonna fly.

Here’s the deal. If you can only accomplish a given task one time out of a hundred attempts, the time you accomplished it you got lucky. If you fight a guy who will school you 99 times out of a hundred, and the hundredth time you connect and drop him, you got lucky. Because you couldn’t do it again if your life depended on it.

That’s why the striking arts are so intriguing. We all realize that no matter how unlikely, a combination of human error or good fortune on either of the combatants’ part could result in a stunning conclusion. It’s one of the reaons we watch.

The better you are and the more intelligently you fight, the less the chances of luck deciding the fight come into play. And fights are very rarely decided by luck alone. But luck is always a possible contributing factor, and fans need to realize that.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

Good post mate

Scoring a goal from an attempted cross in football is the best analogy I can come up with. I get your point, I just get annoyed when people act as if a fighter doesn’t deserve to win because they got a surprise KO. The term “lucky punch” is so overused that it’s lost all meaning, if it was only used in extreme cases when someone throws a wild punch after getting destroyed and manages to get the KO then it wouldn’t be so bad but when someone catches their opponent by purposely timing their punch perfectly and accurately hitting their target then I think that it’s unfair to dismiss it as “lucky”.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 4, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

As Bas always says, 'Were you aiming for his head?, did you somehow connect?, then it is not luck!!

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, only for the professionals. They put in too much work to call it luck.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i resent the accountant line

as an accounting major OJR I am now going to have to unleash a haymaker on you with my eyes wide open just to prove a point.

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Mar 5, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

LMAO.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, so if a professional golfer hits a hole-in-one, he didn’t get lucky?

Luck is luck.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s luck either way, because it is extremely rare. It is just luckier when a hack like you does it.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Impasse.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

AHH!

The poor ass coverage here in the USA.

The lack of a pre show and post show on UFC PPV’s.

The Main Events you wish were 5 Rounders.

People's Light Heavyweight Champion
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua

by EbzTheKing on Mar 4, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

One single criticism of Herb Dean that really annoys me

The way in which he stops fights. I hate it when he steps in, crotch first, and waves both arms in the air. With the adrenaline running through the fighters, they have no idea the fight is being stopped and get a few more unnecessary shots off, while they got Herbs nuts in their face. I noticed this a long time ago, and its so annoying. He should worry less about signaling to the crowd and worry more about ending the beatdown.

I also hate when these refs step in to stop a fight due to choke and they either tap the guy on the shoulder (like he’s really gonna notice??) or when they try to pry them apart by tugging on the passed out dude’s arm. These guys should be fully-trained on exactly how to stop a fight. Half the time they just jump in and just start pullin limbs, when they should be FORCIBLY pullin off the choking arm.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

It used to piss me off when Royce would grit his teeth and try to break a guy’s arm a good three seconds after McCarthy had stopped the fight.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

JJ with that

I think Royce fought a dude earlier that night, and he did the submission (cant remember if it was armbar or RNC) and the guy tapped, but Big John didnt see it, Royce said he tapped, and the guy wouldn’t admit it, and Royce was getting pissed, and the dude finally said yeah i tapped. So the rest of Royce’s fights that night, I think he held on just so he was sure the ref seen it and the dude couldn’t try to fake the tap or lie or whatever.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 5, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That was Ken Shamrock. It was a choke, but not a RNC- can't remember which. And it wasn't Big John - it was before Big John.

The funny thing was Ken tapped right infront of the ref, slapping his palm repeatedly on the mat, and the ref just looked lost. He didn’t know what to do.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

It happened several times.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate those dumb ass fans that go nuts whenever there's a camera around!

Also, I hate Houston traffic! Haha!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

Whever there is a shitload of posts, then I read them to find out they are all kinda the same and I shouldn't of bothered.

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

when people get offended by trash talk

its a combat sport. Let them talk smack and act like idiots, its way more entertaining than " i respect my opponent and his skills, he is a very dangerous opponent and i am training hard for him" in a french canadian accent

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Mar 5, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Oh man, you are opening the shit gate again...

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

That should be your sig, dude. BTW - Cubs suck. :)

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

i like it i think i may

and i hate the sox and yes i already know that the cubs suck

God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

brendog

im gonna disagree and leave it at that. im at work, and i need to quit posting or else they may get IT to start trackin my activity.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I'll post again.

I find the entertainment INSIDE the cage. And GSP entertains.

“It’s easy to talk. It’s harder to fight.” – GSP. Man of few (valuable) words.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

haha i was just stirring the pot

i think ITs been on to me for a while. only 3 weeks left in the internship though

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Alot of people agree with him but just wait for the GSP nation to respond. Shit storm, indeed.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

hey OJR your a chicago guy didnt even know that

im about an hour west of chicago, in the small town of shittsvile

God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

So you must live in Aurora. I live in the Northwest Side.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

My condolences.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

and same to you on the sox thing

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

im not getting into baseball

i know the cubs suck , i just cant stand some sox fans. lets leave it at that

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

From the Trailer Park Boys: The mysterious winds of shit that bring with it only shit luck and other shit. When you just know that all kinds of shit are gonnna happen. The shit really hits the fan when the winds of shit are blowing. Normally, the strongest winds of shit can be found in a shit hurricane. Also, keep an eye out for shit hawks, which may take advantage of the incredible thermals produced from the winds of shit.
Lahey: “You know what a shit barometer is, Bubs?”
Bubbles: “…No.”
Lahey: “Measures the shit pressure in the air. You can feel it! Listen Bubs, hear that? Sounds of the whispering winds of shit.
…Beware, my friend. Shit winds are a coming.”

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

Top Ten

10) Fans that think they can run the UFC better than Dana, Latest example “If I ran the UFC I would pay all the fighters millions of dollars and make sure they all had health care”
9) fans that judge fighters abilities by the way they act outside the octagon? Yes Mir is a cocky SOB but he is a good fighter regardless
8) Fans that think they know everything and if you disagree with them they will turn to childish name calling insults to back up their arguement and their ego
7) The first 40 minutes of TUF
6) Hypocrites
5) The Spelling Police that make spelling mistakes
4) Bad judging
3) Non Title fights when the champion is fighting
2) Anti MMA media
1) M1 Global --Really who the F is M1 and why would anyone co promote with an organization that can’t promote themselves!?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

I especially like 10, 9, 8, 7 and 6.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot Showdown Joe.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Is #10 a shot at worby because if it is

I like it.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

?

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Worby really a M1 supporter? Wouldn't surprise me.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL never mind

 Worby is one of many that talk about the business side of the UFC and have little facts if any to go with their complaints.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here. That shit is so annoying.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

i think we are safe guys

The shit rush tornado never found us.

God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

wait til I get Jay in on this. put on the goggles.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You are being put on notice BJP. LOL

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm Good Thread

Bad Decisions
Steve Mazzagati
Hating Bisping because everybody else hates Bisping
Frank Mir winning
Strikeforce color commentary
Like already said, people who say that ju jitsu is “pussy” or “gay”
Alistair Overeem
This one was good: first 40 minutes of Ultimate Fighter
The scoring system: doesn’t cover enough technical elements ( Diaz outboxing Maynard quite handily and losing is an example)

by theworldismine on Mar 5, 2010 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

People saying that jits is gay/pussy are just plain ignorant. The End.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i just tell em how hard it is and how badly theyd get choked out

by theworldismine on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

pass them the blunt, that usually works for some reason.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Get them stoned, then choke them out??

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

get them stoned and watch some beautiful jits

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

funny thing is thats exactly what I do, and they still bitch :P

by theworldismine on Mar 5, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

that's when you choke them out, if u know ur shit

make them feel as helpless as the day they were born. that humbles them and gets them interested.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

When MMA MANIA take down these kind of GIFS.....

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Very nice!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This one is prob a bit too much, but fuck it, its Friday...

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 5, 2010 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

thank u.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

nice very nice

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

That is never too much. NEVER.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a tequila drinker but fuck it!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Tramp stamp salt lick. How innovative.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I take my tequila straight, but in this case I would mak an exception.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

"I had to fight all my life to survive. They were all against me... but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch." ~ Ty Cobb

by RearNakedPoke on Mar 7, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Fans that start booing 1 minute into a fight

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

That one may piss me off the most

good one we may have a winner lol

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

DEFINATLY

What definately pisses me off is just about everything Dana White does. Talking about how he doesnt care about ratings and all that bullshit and then turns around and look what he’s up to…trying to fight strikeforce for ratings and being a lil bitch and playing ufc fights same nights and strikeforce….just about 93% of everything dana does pisses me off

by Amin0911 on Mar 5, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Worby when did you change your name? Imagine Dana trying to compete for viewers with SF, why would he do such a thing?

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

I was gonna write the exact same thing about Worby changing his name, lol.

True tho, its business. Ofcourse he cares about ratings, lol.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

LMFAO I was going to say the same thing

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 5, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nipple Tweaking

Sardines horrible beard, face and bald head
The difference is drinkability (worst use of the English language ever)
The Machida Shogun decision
All SF commentary
Sean Salmon
Frank Shamrock
Shitty cards put on in the UK

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Forgot to mention

Matt Serras right bicep.

It’s about the size of a sprout. Anyone know why its so small?

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That last one really grinds my gears

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 7:15 AM EST up reply actions  

My hates at the moment(they change after almost every event).

Frank Shamrocks face and voice.
Nipple tweaking.
Most booing at events(some cases are warranted i.e. Kalib)
The fans who act crazy when the camera is on them.
People who say GSP is boring.
People who bring up the WWF whenever Brock is mentioned.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Nice list

Good catch on Shammy

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

They all grind my gears

Can’t stand the idiots that think that they have to yell at a camera or behave like a moron because they’re on TV.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 6, 2010 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

nice

Most booing at events(some cases are warranted i.e. Kalib) Or Thales Leites – I was there, and booed for the first time ever.

I’ll add…Everything Frank Trigg.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I was at both. I've never laughed so hard as when we booed Kalib out of Montreal.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at both too.

Man, I’ve never heard a crowd as loud as UFC 83. The crowd was crazy from the start. When Jason Day upset Belcher til GSP won.

Had floor seats to UFC 97, they sucked. Don’t get floors.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i was at the sf card with miller vs shields

i didnt mind the booing at jake but usally it makes me want to slap a drunk

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 5, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

ok a few of the things that bug me..
  1. people who claim mma is barbaric but don’t take the time to see it for the wicked sport that it is..the term human cock fighting (ok start the gay jokes) that people compare it to..
  2. people who think they can instantly fight because they are fans of mma..
  3. unnecessary booing makes me mad..
  4. bad reffing..bad judge scoring..
  5. the new ring girl for the ufc
  6. when threads turn into a bitch fest that has nothing to do with the topic..
  7. how much shit i get for looking at this site too much..from my man and my daughter..they call me obsessed..gee is that fair! luckily my boy is too young to care!!

by sarah- on Mar 5, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

I have to disagree with #6

Sometimes the “bitch fests” are the best part of a thread.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 5, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

#5 was spot on. Hate that new chick

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 5, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You need to come down to Texas where you would be appreciated. You would only get shit for saying ‘aboot’ and ‘eh.’

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

While we would incessantly mock your careless overusage of the word “y’all”.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I would laugh at the both of you. We be speaking proper English over here...Word.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Watchoo takkin about, you Por-o eeecan….

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 5, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Rosie Perez imitation.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 5, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, sorry we don’t use a term of all-encompassing coolness to refer to a group of people like ‘yous guys.’

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm starting to say eh and douche

Clearly I’m on this site for too long.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, youll never catch me saying wanker though, eh

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Mar 7, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

What a wanker eh :p

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

how much shit i get for looking at this site too much..from my man and my daughter

Sarah, I wish more girls were obsessed.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Cecil Peoples

Nuf said

"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."

by Buster Bluth on Mar 5, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This man.

Showdown Joe

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 5, 2010 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Thought that was

GSP at first glance but realised the suit was different ;-)

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 5, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

the man with a Canadian accent so thick its repulsive even to Canadians

by quidnunc on Mar 6, 2010 4:42 AM EST up reply actions  

The guy is from Toronto. I live in Toronto and have never heard anyone with an accent like that outside of television shows from the 80s

by quidnunc on Mar 6, 2010 4:45 AM EST up reply actions  

he's Mr. No Personailty

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 6, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Easy

Maniacs who can’t stay on topic….the attention span on here is pretty weak.

by sudnvictory on Mar 5, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Whenever a fan call any MMA fighter a pussy

None of them are.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Mar 5, 2010 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

That diaper is stuffed. He’s got a rolled-up sock or a tennis ball in there.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 5, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

DANA NUT HUGGERS

DANA NUT HUGGERS ARE DUMB.
They grind my gears for not being smart MMA fans.

Read about it HERE.

by Costello on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Delusional Penn fans

You know the ones…..those that say;

1. Penn won the first fight clearly because he put GSP in the hospital (due to an eye poke)
2. Penn won the second fight because GSP should have been DQ’d because he lathered himself in mazola, vaseline, KY, etc prior to and during the fight because nobody can escape BJ’s guard
3. Penn should fight GSP again because he should have won both of the first fights
4. They will not admit the obvious like he was OWNED during the second fight by GSP
5. They disagree with everyone regarding facts about both fights and if they know in their own mind they lost the arguement, they shoot out the proverbial “he applied grease to his whole body”.
6. Their “reality” connection in their brains are incorrectly wired as there is no sense of reality – they are completely delusional

Now I do like Penn, especially the Penn of late, but you have to admit that he was owned and there is no need for any rematch so quit bringing that BS up. The equivalent would be saying that Griffin should have won the fight against Anderson Silva because it was close or that GSP never lost to Serra because that was an illegal blow behind the ear.

Hey - who cuts your hair?

Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke

by hairybumcrack on Mar 6, 2010 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

+1

I try to just ignore them now (as much as possible).

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Mar 6, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

looks to me your bringing it up again

why don’t you move on. They are both Great fighters. I admit GSP beat the living hell out of BJ in the 2nd fight. And in the first fight he out scored him. They are both great champs in their own weight classes. So can we just move on to future mma matches and not worry about these 2 fights anymore. I promise not to bring these past fights up again .No need to fight about it unless your just trying to troll. And if you are nice job cause it worked.

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

What is the title to this entire thread?

And I responded to it….so it looks like “you’re” the troll.

Hey - who cuts your hair?

Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke

by hairybumcrack on Mar 6, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

lol ok

well i tried

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 6, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The one that makes my skin crawl

The only adjective they can come up with for Melvin Guillard is Explosive so they use it ad nauseam.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Mar 6, 2010 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Goldie would probably get fired if he said Melvin was going to jump on his opponent like a broke and jonesing cokehead.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 7, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as bad as Jardine's "unorthodox striking" and "underrated ground game"

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 7, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

-people who call the ground game “gay porn”
-people who call Rampage a baby killer
-people who call GSP a cheater
-people who think any fight more than 6 months ago is “irrelevant” to a fighters resume/capabilities.
-people who list rooks like Bones and Dufee when naming top contenders, esp Dufee with his 6-seconds in the majors.
-bad winners and post-fight disrespect from A-holes like Brock, Tito, Diaz
-fighters who call their mamas to tell the judge how big bad GSP tried to kill her son
-fighters who really don’t care if they seriously damage their opponents
-fights getting stopped prematurely, especially over stupid cuts
-CHEATERS
-so-called champions who use maneuvering and manipulation to hand-pick opponents
-great matchups getting screwed up, prevented, or corrupted by the weight-cutting factor
-all the disgusting gay terminology on MMA blogs “nut-hugging” “cock swinging” and oral/anal images I won’t even repeat.

by (shonuff) on Mar 7, 2010 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, and

people who bitch about Couture getting title shots when the guy has WON NINE WORLD TITLE FIGHTS and his only non-title loss in his whole career is to TOP-3 G.O.A.T. Nog.

by (shonuff) on Mar 8, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

shonuff

-fighters who call their mamas to tell the judge how big bad GSP tried to kill her son. what??

-fights getting stopped prematurely, especially over stupid cuts
i hope you know how the sytem works. i think the doctors do a good job – they usually allow fights to continue unless its a gaping wound or the blood is affecting their eyesight. It’s part of the sport.

-so-called champions who use maneuvering and manipulation to hand-pick opponents.
i hate ppl who think Anderson handpicks his opponents, or are you referring to someone else?

-great matchups getting screwed up, prevented, or corrupted by the weight-cutting factor
huh? like which fights?

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 8, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 8, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Weight-cutting refers to Silva vs. any top-5 LHW. No, I’m not including Forrest.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Mar 8, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Two_Words

-Have you seen the athletic commission hearings where B.J.‘s mama testifies and talks about how appalling it is that they allow that big mean GSP to beat up on her poor little boy who was completely defenseless and could have been killed? (Though she fails to cite actual statistics on annual Vaseline deaths.)
-I have no beef with the doctors, I just hate seeing fights end because of accidental cuts. You get all stoked for a match like Couture/Belfort, then in the oppening seconds Belfort’s glove severs Randy’s eyelid and the fight is over with nobody knowing who really won. (and in that case, a BS belt-change).
-I was referring to Anderson. I don’t think he hand-picked Forrest, but I think Dana hand-picked Forrest to make Silva look good and I think Silva/Soares do play a lot of games to manipulate things to avoid fights they don’t want. I’m sorry that you hate people for telling you unpleasant truths.
-the weight-cutting thing is too complex to get into right now and I need to go take a dump. I don’t have a good solution for the problem, I just hate the way it distorts the game. The spirit of the law is to keep matches fair by matching up fighters of similar size. But the letter of the law has loopholes that don’t insure anything of the kind and we are led to believe that fighters are the same size when in fact one has a large size advantage. Also most of the fighters end up fighting below their full potential because of the dehydration factors involved in trying to fight at a weight where they won’t be disadvantaged. As I’ve often said, this is the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship, not The Biggest Loser and in real life weight-cutting has nothing to do with fighting skills, but in the N.American sport fighting, it plays a huge factor.

by (shonuff) on Mar 8, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

(shonuff)

As I’ve often said, this is the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship, not The Biggest Loser… Ah, I do remember having this convo with you before. It’s part of the sport – just like boxing. The only solution is same day weigh-ins.

I agree with the cuts, it sucks, but we take the good with the bad in this sport. Elbows do cause alot of the cuts, especially on the ground. I wouldn’t mind if they made elbows on the ground illegal, but not standing. This will definately help with the cuts.

I dont agree with the Anderson theories. He moved up twice – the first time was against James Irvin. Forrest isn’t exactly a can (I’m a Forrest fan, but I’ll digress), so going from Irvin to Forrest (former champ) is quite the jump. Yes, Dana gave him Forrest because he knew he would bring a fight (unlike Leites), but he didn’t purposely set him up with an easy fight – it just turned out to be that way, far from it. Forrest beat up Rampage, Dan Henderson didn’t.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Mar 8, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Anderson is bigger than

Machida, Rashad, Thiago, or Rampage, and has a longer reach than even Forrest…so why does he get credit for “moving up” to fight in a division of guys who are mostly still smaller than him? He should’ve been at LHW all along. Instead he’s used his weight cutting ability to build his rep against smaller guys in the weakest division in the UFC. I think the guy has mad skills, but his ability to cut weight has allowed him to achieve god-like status while avoiding all the top guys his own size. That’s not the spirit of the law. Can you imagine the shit they’d say about Fedor if he’d spent his whole career beating up middleweights and never fought any top HWs? Well Fedor only has 5 lbs on Silva and considerably less height and reach. But Silva can dehydrate so he gets a free pass to walk around with a belt while top guys smaller than him are stuck waiting in line at LHW and he never has to fight any of them to keep his belt.

As for Forrest, I’ve said it a hundred times. Forrest was hand-picked. Not saying he’s not a respectable fighter. I’m saying he’s a big name who’s stylistically tailor-made to be Anderson’s speed bag. Forrest moves at half the speed of other LHW strikers, never backs up, and poses no takedown threat. He was handed to Silva on a platter. Think of the TOP 10 LHWs and ask yourself which one’s style would make him the easiest target for Sliva and Forrest’s name just jumps off the page.

by (shonuff) on Mar 8, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

wow going after dudes moms

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 8, 2010 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 8, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

what really pisses me off is when people refer to a fighters "relevancy"

if hes fighting he goddamn relevant becasue this is MMA not some reality show where irrelevant fighters are voted off.

IF SOMEONES FIGHTING IN A FIGHT, THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE SPORT. FUCK OFF.

i also dont really like the kabels b and c level fighters etc..

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Mar 10, 2010 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

agreed

I hate when they say a decorated champion isn’t relevant to the sport because he’s a few months past his prime, but an up-n-comer like Dufee who hasn’t fought anyone is somehow more relevant with his 6 seconds in the octogon.

And just because a fight has no bearing on the title picture doesn’t make it irrellevant. I for one watch to see great fighters fight. And I’d rather watch two legends like Hughes/Gracie or Couture/Nog than a mismatched title fight like GSP/Hardy.

by (shonuff) on Mar 10, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t get used to it! Your name alone prevents you from displaying such refinement and wisdom with any regularity.

by (shonuff) on Mar 10, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

"IF SOMEONES FIGHTING IN A FIGHT, THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE SPORT. FUCK OFF."

Funny shit brendog.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

its all good

i can keep an open mind my friend i don’t hate on fighters much

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 10, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

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