Juanito Ibarra: James Toney should fight Kimbo Slice -- then the winner of Chuck Liddell vs Tito Ortiz
by Jesse Holland on Mar 4, 2010 3:07 PM EST
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"We get along real well. He’s a great student. He considers me a teacher. Hopefully this chemistry that we have can carry us to a title in MMA. James Toney will fight anybody. It’s up to us to help him figure things out. What I would like to see and what his manager would like to see … Kimbo Slice. It makes sense. The weight factor makes sense. Maybe a 220 [lbs.] fight somewhere in there. Two guys who have great names. I would love to see that fight …I think that’s a great opponent … hopefully the UFC would consider something like that. He’s said it all over the Internet. He calls him Simba. He says he wanted Simba Slice. I’d like to get him down to 205 and fight the winner of a Chuck and Tito. Fights with Kimbo Slice and he goes on to fight the winner of a Chuck and Tito fight …I think it would sell and I think it would be a hell of a fight."
Newly employed MMA advisor Juanito Ibarra maps out the future of his latest acquisition, famed heavyweight boxer James Toney. UFC President Dana White shocked the MMA community on March 3 when he confirmed the signing of "Lights Out," and as of yet does not have specific plans for his debut. It should be noted however, that the UFC website has taken down the scheduled match-up between Slice and fellow TUF 10 fighter Matt Mitrione booked for UFC 113 in Montreal. Coincidence? Or is Zuffa planning a major money fight between the two superstar sluggers?
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I dont think Dana would let that happen yet
He isnt done milking Kimbo & he hasn’t even started milking Toney.
Zuffa should change the promotions name to DanaXC
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
I don't know...
This seems like a Brock situation to me. Toss him in the deep end and see if he floats.
I say make him cut to 205
He has fought well below that in the past. Put him against Jardine at 205, see how he likes getting leg kicked!
i think juanitos plan is a warm up fight so he gets used to cutting weight (remember hes old now) so a fight with kimbo at 220 actually i think is a tougher fight for him than a lot of other guys, kimbo arguably has the best boxing at that weightclass and is a moneymaking fight for dana
i would personally rather see a brendan schaub or paul buentello than kimbo and let them bring kimbo up slowly with TUF caliber fighters and toney slowly creep down to 205 and possibly 185 if he wants idk how flabby he is or his weight and body fat %
by randy murders on Mar 4, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
LOL holy shit “Kimbo has arguably the best boxing at that weight class” Are you serious?
JASONFAHQ is a troll
You got there before me bbbb, ha!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
OH MY GOD
are you serious??
i actually agreed with something you said up top now you will never, ever say anything i will agree with…nothing at all.
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
Randy Murders
Boy Randy u stepped in it on that Kimbo boxing comment… 1st… which weight class ru refering to kimbo best boxer in hvwt? or 205lbs? Kimbo’s boxing is the best thing about him, but he’s certainly not the best in either 205lbs or hvwt. Ru saying Kimbo’s boxing is better than Jacksons or A. Silva or better than Dos Santos or Kongo’s… U just didn’t think that out before u wrote it…lol…U’d better retract that n’ chalk it up to an ’’’OOOOPS MY BAD"
"Best boxing?" You, sir, are a fucking retard
best boxing… rofl…
not many of them are technically great boxers all kickboxers, kimbo from a technical standpoint isnt a terrible boxer he moves pretty good, and doesnt go for just big bombs though he has some nasty power, i didnt say he was technically the best p4p fighter but look at the standup in HW
sure jds has looked good so far but takes quite a few shots, as does nog, brock i mean come on seriously he has shit standup, nog? hes a punching bag, cain takes a lot of punches, mir knows one combo, and kongo is inconsistent and not as good with his hands hes more of a leg kick fighter, i didnt say heavyweight had great boxers in it but technical standpoint kimbo is up there he just has such a bad hatred on him and such a terrible ground game that people wanna take him down
roy nelson wanted nothing to do with kimbo standing yet stood with everyone else? he even stood with arlovski for longer think im an idiot all you want kimbo will prove me right your opinions are yours,mine are mine
by randy murders on Mar 4, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to say this murders...
but your opinions on this thread are whack!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
I'd like to see those fights
Will Dana make it happen, putting fights on the fans want to see? Or will he give both guys an easy ride and create more cash cows?
Will the real Dana W please stand up
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 4, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions
Juanito?
Cuz’ I’m sure Dana’s just been waiting to hear from that guy.
Watch your money real close James.
VOTE HERE
we want Toney-Couture!
Reply with +1 if you agree! With Toney-Kimbo both guys in the fight are suspect and it’s closer to the freak show again. If Toney wants to be a legitimate MMA figher he has to fight some legitimate opponent!
REMEMBER ME. i will be in the ufc one day. Mark my words
by PrettyBoyy91 on Feb 18, 2010 2:06 PM PST
I dont think Dana will feed him to the sharks in his first fight
He would probably give him a first fight against someone who wants to stand and bang… cue Kimbo if he defeats or even loses to Meathead. Maybe Pat Barry, Gilbert Yvel, Cro Cop and then eventually the elite wrestlers
lol
now you’re just being contrarian!
Toney is already signed!
REMEMBER ME. i will be in the ufc one day. Mark my words
by PrettyBoyy91 on Feb 18, 2010 2:06 PM PST
I never wanted him in the first place, just like I never wanted Kimbo there either.
How is that being contrarian?
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Yeah, I was wondering too..
in all the years that I’ve watched boxing(though I completely made a 180-degree turn when I started on MMA), I have never watched a single Toney fight…
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
+ 1 to Mexi.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
James Toney + five ounce gloves + no worries about getting taken down = 1 unconscious Kimbo.
I can’t see Dana throwing away one of his circus clowns by having them fight each other.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 4, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
man are u serious?
didnt u see the houston alex fight?
kimbo has mean ground skills!
ha
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
+2
I was hoping it was a nightmare I was having.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
by MMACHAMP on Mar 4, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Same concept as Canseco, Toney wants $$$. Toney is a HOF'er in boxing, why would he want to do MMA at such a late stage? A good guess would be $$$.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Whats the diference if its about money or not?
As long as Toney comes into the fight in shape are ready to go at it, why is his motivation an issue? Are these guys not professional fighters? They reason they fight is to make money.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Why is motivation an issue? A past his prime boxer who openly mocks MMA before he signs a deal. An MLB pariah who owes $$$ to the IRS. Business practices notwithstanding, I would say that the integrity of MMA has alot to do with it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
C'mon anybody that heard Toney talk knows he was talking out his ass even non MMA fans
I’m going to enjoy the fights, this poitical BS on MMA is going nowhere. Oh Toney said this and that now he’s signed boo hoo. are you a MMA fan or a WWF fan? Judge a fighter by the way they fight not by the way they act.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Actually, Puck Head, I was watching boxing back in the late 70's and early 80's because I grew up with it. I know Toney's persona and his comments are to sell fights. I think you are belaboring the obvious. I get it but I don't agree with it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
IF...
Toney takes it seriously, then he deserves the respect that any other fighter should get, perhaps more because he has shown a significant skill level in his respective art. IMO he should get the benefit of the doubt before we all judge him.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I would agree with your point more in this specific situation if Toney did not pop off at the mouth in regards to MMA. Not a good start to getting a benefit of the doubt. That's a big IF.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
It certainly is a big IF. But i’m excited to find out.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Not me but that's because I saw him box during the best years of his life. I am not hating on him though, just questioning his motives.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Why question his motives though?
What makes Toney any different then anybody else trying to make money? Aren’t we all just trying to get ahead?
If these guys weren’t getting paid there would be no UFC.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Because of all the shit that he talked. LOL. Would you be taken seriously if you shit talked an employer and then decided that you wanted a job with that employer? LOL.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
At least
He’s trying to back up what he his bs and not just flapping his lips like some other people. The kind of people who demand things like blood tests so they can get out of fights.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe with all the shit talk to his employer...
Dana is just wanting someone to beat up Toney so bad to shut him up, then give him the pink slip suddenly.
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
BTW - I am not questioning his credentials. They are obvious.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really see the problem here...
James Toney is coming in as one of the best boxers in the world; albiet past his prime but still has accolades to his name that would humble a lot of pro athletes. Given his noteriety/personality maybe people are looking at the negative side of the media aspect. However, no one can say the guys not a fighter; if he’s a one dimensional boxer than eventually he’ll lose; but it’s not like he hasn’t earned at least a chance. The guys won boxing titles in 6 different weight classes, if anything he’s coming in more deserving than a lot of guys.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 4, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
No anything Dana does is evil, didn't you know he;s the devil LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
The Devil and Hitler had a baby...
His name was Dana and his time has come…
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
He can still box though..
And he’d make a lot more money just boxing; he’s got two belts according to wikipedia
James Toney is the current NABO and IBA Heavyweight champion; a boxing title fight has got to have a bigger pay out.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 4, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I looked that up
He’s not listed on the NABO site. I didn’t check IBA but Wikipedia might need updating.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Why wouldn't he throw him to the sharks???
#1. Toney has done nothing but insult him and the UFC, made a mockery out of the whole thing.
#2. He called him a ho, did he not??
#3. If Dana is really taking Toney seriously and thinks he is for real, and he has won world titles in boxing, wouldn’t you want to make sure you have a mixed martial artist ready to tear Toney apart in 30 secs?? Dana and his BS about ‘Ten Year Plans’ and taking over the world with MMA, what is the point if you have an overweight, middle aged boxer come in, make a mockery of your sport, KO one of your guys and for them to turn around and say I told you MMA ain’t shit!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
All valid points, TKK.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
He followed a tried and true formula
Bashing Lesnar = HW title shot. Bashing Dana = multi-fight contract.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
Taking attention away from SF with there announcement of all there fights is priceless
you think Dana wants the MMA community talking SF or UFC, Ithink Dana did his job LOL You can cry all you want to on what a bad person is but it will never change as your just helping him more than you can understand.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Well put TKK
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 4, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks guys, If Dana gives this guy an easy ride, then that says it all imo. I want to see Tony KTFO with a head kick.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
If he gives Toney an easy ride I will make the worst Anti-Dana fan post this site has ever seen.
Something Intro and daniel worby will jizz over.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
And i will follow.
Two people could be off my greetings card list if they fuck up in the next few months…..
#1. CC
#2. DW
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Only secretly.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I wouldn't fault Dana for giving Toney a fight or two.
Why is it such an issue if he comes in and doesn’t fight a top level guy immediately? Granted he doesn’t have the timeline for build up the way an Anthony Johnson does or Todd Duffee, but its his first mma fight. Giving him a monster right off the bat would be just as rediculous imo.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
The guy is this supposed 'World Champion', and is calling out everyone for no reason what-so-ever!!
Giving him a monster right off the bat would be just as rediculous imo. Why??
His Boxing record:
Total fights 83
Wins 72
Wins by KO 44
Losses 6
Draws 3
No contests 2.
I say let JDS kick his ass and make him STFU and learn some respect for MMA’st
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Wether you hate him or respect him he adds excitement just look at the post numbers!!
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Becuase thats a boxing record.
Not an mma record. I know Brock went straight to the head of the line, but I think thats the exception, not the rule. Ishii isn’t fighting top of the line guys yet and he’s a judo gold medalist. Not even the top jiu jitsu guys go straight to the head of the line.
I dont know why this needs to be about the “respect of MMA”. Let Toney show he deserves to be in the sport and he is taking it seriously. If he is not, even a low lvl fighter will destroy him.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
You don't know why or you don't care or you don't agree? Which one? Are you asking a rhetorical question or are you confirming that you don't agree that integrity is not a valid issue?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
There's always Cro Cop..
He could throw him in with the Croat, could be entertaining.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 4, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
TOTALLY AGREE
Make an example out of this guy. Don’t chase the money building him up and feeding him wins. Put someone in there to make him look embarrassing with all the stupid smack he was talking.
Then Dana only profits from 1 fight, and not 3 or 4.
by ShowMeYourJits on Mar 4, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
it should only take one
I want this guy put in his place, not helped along to make him look legit. It should be about the integrity of MMA, not chasing the money in this case.
No fuckin CC
He has no hunger and his ability suffers from it.
I want a Monster with something to prove. Give him to a UFC Rookie. Give a Kid a chance to make a name for himself by blasting Toney or even better
Ricardo Arona.
Rampage did the same thing when he was in pride.
Rampage used 2 say fuck the ufc & the ufc ain’t shit & look now how Dana kisses his ass & bends over backwards for that bum. Maybe Dana just has jungle fever =D
by d*locc on Mar 4, 2010 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
why not have kimbo and toney fight outside at ufc 112.
but not outside in the cage…have em down in some alley way..let em throw down
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
LMAO
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 4, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
this could be a good fight for Kimbo
Kimbo’s knee will never be the same again he can’t take many leg kicks & Tooney won’t be able to throw a leg kick for shit. Granted he may end up KOing Kimbo but he would recover from that & people would pay to see him fight again. Tooney however if he loses will disappear & no one will give a shit about him & if he wins Dana can feed him to one of the animals at 205 any of the top 10 fighters in that division would snap him in two
Kimbo, Maynard, toney and Walker
Are all great for MMA rgardless what Dana says about them. MMA is for fighters at all levels and if they help gain exposure for the sport because of their background great!! Are you really going to take advice from Dana on anything the competition does?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Kyle Maynard-the guy who fought once and had to have special rules made up for him is good for MMA?
How?
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
No shit. Maynard vs. able-bodied fighter is a mismatch that won’t be sanctioned anywhere outside of Mexico. Maynard vs. another handitarded fighter is just cheap comedy. Of course, it would probably make Sarah Palin’s head explode, so there could be some good to come of that.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
Yeah f^ckin work gets in the way, what can I say.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I know exactly what this thread needs....
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 4, 2010 3:31 PM EST reply actions
OD. My compliments, sir!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Thank u. Vida!
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
ATTENTION PEAOPLE POSTING THAT DANA WONT SET UP KIMBO VS TONEY
I felt the same way last night but somebody please explain to me why kimbo vs mitrione is cancelled then??
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
definitely want kimbo to win b/c i would love to see him fight liddell b/c chuck had ......
alot to say on the mma show on hdnet about kimbo. most of it was locker room material. i see kimbo slamming toney and gnp’ing him. then it’s a fight with the iceman.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 4, 2010 3:56 PM EST reply actions
Pretty Boy pictured here.. preparing himself for BJ's title defense.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 4, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions
Nice one, OD.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Mar 4, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Im Sorry...
but i just cant see James Toney fat behind getting down to 205…ever.He lives for KFC and is possibly dieing for some Suki Hana rite about now.
you guys know this guy is a world class boxer right
he would destroy anyone in a stand-up battle in UFC at heavyweight. He is a serious threat which is why he needs to fight a wrestler
kimbo is off the ufc 113 card in montreal??
what the fuck!!
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
haha
i dont care about that fight so much
but im glad i didnt buy tickets to that show
machida/shogun only fight that was rumored to be on it that is actually still there!
rashad/rampage, forrest/thiago…there was another i think?
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
is it really off the card
everyones saying it was never officially on the card and they assumed it had been canceled but nothing has changed. the only quote i saw was kimbos manager saying there open to the match up with toney but no one has contacted them about it???
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
BREAKING NEWS UFC to counter April STRIKEFORCE! Swick vs. Serra as Co-Main Event
I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.
For Real?
Serra I thought said he will fight in the summer or later this year. He has some gym to open, but if this fight is for real it’ll be strange. Swick is 6’1 and Serra is 5’6. Swick if he fights smart will pick him off
Dana is a money maker!! Stop Hating lmao
He just doubled his ppv buys for the first time Toney steps into the ring. The boxing purists are gonna buy so they can run their lips that mma fighters are shit if Toney wins and mma purists are gonna buy it to run their lips If Toney loses that boxers are shit. Dana is a smart guy he feeds Toney a few stand and bang guys and laughs all the way to the bank. I just dont understand why the majority of fight fans have to be so close minded over the mma vs boxing bs. A great fight is a great fight regardless of the discipline. Just enjoy it boys.
RIP - SHO'NUFF SHOGUN OF HARLEM "I got something real for yo in these hands right here" FN CLASSIC
by TheAntiBritishTinCanHypeMachine on Mar 4, 2010 9:54 PM EST reply actions
goddamn this is one fuck of a thread
i guess theres nothing i could possibly say on this subject that hasnt already been said so i’ll just say this:
i fucking love sluts…nasty trashy sluts…i really like a ghetto hoodrat with a mix of trailor trash…now thats one hell of a slut there….part hoodrat and part trailor trash thats hard to top…its definantly not the kind of bitch you want to piss off though…she’ll straight up buss u in yo shit…cut you in yo sleep…
a bitch like that loves her some mma….but dont let that bitch catch you cheating…fuck no…
and she’ll fuck you how you wanna be fucked too…drain your balls till they bleed…bitch will let you put kitchen appliances in her ass if you want…bitch aint gonna say no to shit in the bed…
just sayin…
my dream fight would have to be Brock Lesnar vs Jake Shields...and before the fight theres a video of jake slapping brock's wife...then id like to see shields try to gay porn a win over brock using his butt sex merry-go-round tactics...the massacre that would take place would be the greatest thing ever televised...every limb jake has would look like corey hill's leg...god i hate jake shields
You are one crazy bastard Hella.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
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