Fabricio Werdum: I'll win this fight against Fedor and surprise the world of MMA
by Jesse Holland on Mar 30, 2010 11:51 AM EDT
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"I have to respect him because he’s the man. So I’m really dedicating myself for this fight. I’m confident and I’ll surprise the MMA world. Not a lot of people believe in me. Since the guy is the best, a lot of folks say there’s no way I can win. But no problem. It’s good to go in as the underdog, because surprises always happen. A fight’s a fight. How often do they say so-and-so is going to win and then he loses? I’ll win this fight. Folks will only believe it when I win."
-Former PRIDE and UFC heavyweight contender Fabricio Werdum is next in line for a crack at Fedor Emelianenko at the upcoming Strikeforce event planned for June. "Vai Cavalo" believes he has the skills and the resume to overcome the WAMMA champion but is facing "The Last Emperor," who notched his 27th straight win by stopping Brett Rogers last November, biting off more than he can chew?
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lol the title of the post made me laugh.
If JDS destroyed Werdum… Fedor will make him cease existing.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
On paper, yes. However, I am assuming that Werdum will be very motivated because this is Fedor. I do not expect the same Werdum that got abused by JDS to make an appearance against Fedor.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
and when werdum wins are people gonna finally believe me that fedor is far overrated? nope but they will have some serious excuses as to why he lost, and why werdum was a different guy than what fought jds,
if werdum that beats fedor fights jds he gets decapitated still
by randy murders on Mar 30, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahah I know...
randy is hilarious
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
fedor did get slaughtered on the ground by a brawler in his last fight
his first round with rogers wasnt looking too good for him…i mean for the greatest fighter who has ever walked the planet to get busted the hell up so bad by a guy who went to the ground for the first time in his entire life was pretty humiliating….
i mean if that was the greatest fighter in the world that fought rogers id hate to see a mediocre fedor fight
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as long as i can still say i hate the french and canadians from quebec its all good
cro cop surrenders to jds, but goes the distance with fedor? face it you pride nut huggers have NOONE from pride that is worth a shit anymore, slogun who is going to get demolished by machida in the rematch, and fedor who got humiliated in his own favorite place the ground by a guy who had never been on the ground prior to that? eff off and call me an idiot or hilarious and open your eyes FEDOR is overrated and not getting any better he doesnt evolve hes the exact same in every fight, brock,cain,jds,and even mir and carwin are always different, is it age? NO brock is older than fedor as is carwin so now whats the argument? why wont he fight real competition? because he knows he would get his ass handed to him
by randy murders on Mar 30, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Who has Fedor really fought?
Fedor is overrated, Brock, Cain, JDS would kill him in a fight!!!! He really only fought two good fighters in his career, which they were Nog and Cro Cop!!! Other than that really nobody!!! Coleman never evolved as a fighter so you really can’t put him up there!!! Mark Hunt? Hahaha!!!I am not sure if Werdum has the chin to take a punch from Fedor, but I am going to go with the upset and take Werdum.
Dude
Who has Brock really fought ??? Seriously you make no sense.
thats the million dollar question Merk.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Brock has fought one legit guy in Mir. Randy was too small at HW.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
agreed OJ
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Not only a question of size...
Not only a question of size…although for some reason Randy went to the LHW division , for a SECOND time, because he was being outsized.
But also, his 18 month acting layoff, AFTER Timmy and GG, definetly had some effect on Randy. Look how he has preformed since. Allowed Brock to connect with the back of his head, got bested by Nog, had his hands full with Vera (which many think he lost that fight). Um…ya. Real impressive now.
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Another legit top ten opponent for Fedor. Now this is a post Fedor fight that I will definitely watch (besides AA).
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The number one guy shouldn't just be fighting top 10 guys. He needs to fight top 5 guys to stay number one.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
True but Barnett got popped for roids, Overeem has gone into hiding and the Fedor/M1 - UFC partnership won't work for whatever reason.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
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He's not, but they will bump him up for this fight, just like they did for Rogers.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
its not like they have a ton of options at this point
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Mar 30, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Whether Rogers is a legit top 10, top 15, top 20.....
He would hold his own against anyone, and I’m basing that on the Fedor fight, along with the AA fight, the man is a beast and his ko power and strenght alone would cause most of the top 10 guys a problem, he just might lose most of those fights but by no means is a walk over. Werdum is no joke either, not the best but not a can either.
All the good sigs are gone.
Rogers would NOT hold his own in the UFC.
Fedor made him look good.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Point taken. Werdum has only lost to a prime Nog in 2006, a prime AA in 2007 and JDS in 2008. Werdum is legit.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Werdum is Legit. Fedor should be fighting top guys, not legit guys.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I want him in the UFC as bad as you do Jay but its not like he is fighting a can.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
#1 guys NEED to fight guys in the top 5. Werdum has NEVER been top 5.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
so...
Brock , Carwin, JDS etc should come to Strikeforce then. Since that is where the best heavyweight in the world is.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
The whole division leave the highest paying company to chase one Dodger? Makes zero sense.
They all signed their contracts when Affliction was active. Fedor’s fault not theirs.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
wow
might as well try and convince jay that the sky is pink, youd have a better chance of swaying his biased opinion one way or the other
by xquisitewretch on Mar 30, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes about as much sense as suggesting the UFC HW division all quit and join SF to fight Fedor.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
that wasnt my point
my point was that no matter how good of an argument you are presented it wont matter, you have your opinion and youre sticking to it
by xquisitewretch on Mar 30, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true. I change my view of lots of stuff.
Saying the UFC HW’s should all quit and sign with a lesser company to prove Fedor isn’t the best any more is silly. Also it is silly to keep the number one rank, 5 years after your last fight with a top 5 guy.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Agreed.
“might as well try and convince jay that the sky is pink, youd have a better chance of swaying his biased opinion one way or the other”
Jay thinks only his opinion matters. He also doesn’t understand he is the one that suffers from blind fandom.
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LMAO!! Oh shit Striker I can't breathe because I'm laughing so hard
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I would have to dis-agree Jay, Mir, GG, Kongo, CC would all make good fights.
Along with Struve, Al Turk and others. Those would be good fights imo.
All the good sigs are gone.
OK pal. I thought you meant he would hold his own with a GOOD HW in the UFC.
I agree, he would fit in well with the rest of the scrubs. LOL
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
*post Pride Fedor fight
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I always root for the underdog but...
If Fedor loses this i think it would really mess up his legacy
Some men are alive simpley because it is against the law to kill them
Not really. Werdum is a legit top ten contender.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Everyone who is set to fight Fedor gets bumped up.
Rogers was ranked 15th and was bumped up to 7 when it was announced he was fighting Fedor.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Not with my list. Go to Phish Nation's HW list. I had a legit explanation for my top 10 HW list.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
get a clue! Werdum is good enough to compete with JDS, Cain,Bropck, Carwion and would SMOKE MIR!!!!
Werdum vs. Fedor is an awersome fight!
To much hate in your blood fellas!
I like the fight too but Werdum as HW champ will sink M1 and maybe even SF...dangerous fight for the org
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
defintiely Mac
right now they have a marketable champ in Fedor but NOBODY outside of us fans have any idea who the hell Werdum is. Unless they remember him getting KTFO by JDS, which is still a bad way to recognize a guy…
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is not champ
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
WAMMA does not count. M-1 SUCKS.
Overroids is SF champ.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
good call Ulf, i was just about to post a correction
Overeem is somehow still champ but in my eyes the real champ is Fedor, Overeem shiould have been stripped long ago and that fight between Fedor and Rogers should have been for the belt
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Fedor should be fighting juice boy
that fight makes sense to me
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
I guarentee that beating Fedor is as important as any belt
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
more so, if you ask me.
everyone wants to deliver that first real L
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
WE can only hope and Pray Werdum...
sinks M1 on that night…
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LOL
Another Fedor fan who feels the need to up the talent level of Fedor’s opponents. Werdum can’t compete with Brock/Cain/Shane/JDS.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
by jay. on Mar 30, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he doesn't need to...he's in SF
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Johnny boy just said Werdum would be able to compete with them
And that this Fedor joke is a good fight.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Show me where I said that
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
JDS?
I think we’ve already seen that one. Werdum’s standup is terrible and Fedor will just crush him. Werdum had nothing to offer AA and JDS lit him up. This is not an exciting matchup IMO. Very safe fight for Fedor. Fedor really needs to get into the UFC cause this shit is just bogus.
by captainStevo on Mar 30, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Werdum has good stand up, comparable to kongo's
Infact I think that would be a great fight both good stand up and ones a wrestler the other is a JJ artist. I would give the skill advantage to Werdum but speed and power to kongo.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Let's give Fedor some credit even if he loses
Mess up his legacy? sure, we can’t call him undefeated anymore, but look at his record! the dude is amazing.
If he does lose, Dana will be happy. Dana wants Fedor to either come to the UFC or lose his fights. He wants ppl to stop asking him, that’s why he’s building up Brock, to take attention away from Fedor. And some dummies are fallin for it.
Dana: "Maybe we do him and Koscheck for the #1 spot"
Fitch: "Umm, no"
Dana: "He doesn't want the title shot that badly"
Fitch: "If that fight were to happen, it would happen in our gym with the doors closed"
Dana: "That would make alot of money"
yeah good point
I just think if he lost in the UFC then he would lose to a top talent but if he loses to Werdum he lost to a poor version of Big Nog
Some men are alive simpley because it is against the law to kill them
Im putting heavy cash of Werdum
It’s a risk… but imagine if I was right.
by Bigger Zino on Mar 30, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i take that comment back
Some men are alive simpley because it is against the law to kill them
That belt meaningless belt has nothing on the meaningless WAMMA ring
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My HS ring looks better.
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-Stephen King
Cliche
Sorry Fabricio, but you you are not the first one to say this! How many guys have said they’ll “beat Fedor”? How many said they’ll surprise the world of MMA?". Well, it can happen, but not against Fedor. LOL
WAMMA? Who the fuck cares?
Dana: "Maybe we do him and Koscheck for the #1 spot"
Fitch: "Umm, no"
Dana: "He doesn't want the title shot that badly"
Fitch: "If that fight were to happen, it would happen in our gym with the doors closed"
Dana: "That would make alot of money"
How often do they say so-and-so is going to win and then he loses?
When it’s against Fedor, upsets don’t happen.
Dana: "Maybe we do him and Koscheck for the #1 spot"
Fitch: "Umm, no"
Dana: "He doesn't want the title shot that badly"
Fitch: "If that fight were to happen, it would happen in our gym with the doors closed"
Dana: "That would make alot of money"
TRUTH!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
well played, master jedi.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
The only relavent part of his statement
is that Folks will only believe it when they see it. Other than that, its pretty typical
Chances
I don’t know why everyone thinks Werdum can’t win. Granted Fedor is an unbelievable champion but everyone is beatable. I have a feeling we will finally see the end of the Fedor era sometime within the next year… Maybe not Werdum but someone will in 2010! Mark my words!!!
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by Chief Warrant Officer on Mar 30, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Who gives a shit about this fight? Fabricio Werdum got cut from the UFC for losing. Fedor needs to grow a pair ,drop M1 and start fighting some top heavy weights.
Really?
Do you even know his record ? He beat Nog twice, a young Nog in his prime, he beat Herring lol but that was Brock’s only win before he got a title shot, he beat Coleman twice, Cro Crop both before those guys were in their decline before UFC got them. So learn some facts before spewing garbage
All over 5 years ago.
What has he done for us lately?
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Taken out two UFC champs
In one round.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup. Tim and AA, both in their prime.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Prime? Timmay had a prime, it was back when he was roiding.
His prime wasn’t any time after losing to Randy.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
His losses afterwards were to high-level opponents in Mir and Nogueira. Almost won the latter, if I recall.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Those fights were before that fight. You got your wikipedia upside down.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Both of those Champs proved immediately before and after that Fedor fight that ANYONE can beat them.
Randy pwned Timmay. Tim was 100 pounds bigger than Randy.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Disagree. That is revisionist history. At that time, Tim and AA were top 5 HW's.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
And due to that fact, Randy was praised as the next coming of Jesus when he beat Tim.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
lol i was cage side at that fight and it was awesome lol
Randy RAndy Randy
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
They were losing fights consistently before and after Fedor. It's not like Fedor was crushing these guys at the top of their games.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
i 100% agree Jay!
these guys are making it out like Timmay and AA were destroying competition when they fought Fedor…Timmay had gotten the boot from the UFC cause he sucks and AA was doing nothing at all. Fedor is an amazing fighter but really he has fought NOBODY is the last 5 years.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Revisionist history.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Well i am a Fedor fan
But for him to go down as the greatest i really do think he needs a tour in the UFC
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
he already went down as the greatest.
no need for any tours.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
He WAS the greatest. Current rankings should be revised to reflect that fact that he isn't the greatest any more.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
agreed Jay>
and that sig is brutal man, i know it was a bet but like its not really a chirp and its not really true. What about strictly BJJ guys like Mia, Leitis, and Shields. I think there predicatablitly level is a little higher than G.S.P’s lol i would have picked something different is all im saying.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He's predictably Awesome.
I thought GSP would keep the fight standing. I was totally wrong so I got what I deserve.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
very true lol
and i love that spin Jay…sure he’s the most predictable fighter, its easy to predict that he’s going to run through all of his opponents.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Arlovski was on a five fight streak before Fedor.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't believe that either. Not because it's not true, just because you were wrong about Werdum.
You’ve lost all credibility with me.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Had to check, but it is true.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
yea but that fight against Big Country NEVER should have been stood up
who stands up a fight when the person is in side control working for a sub? just ridiculous. who knows how that fight could have ended, big country was working a kimura if im not mistaken
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of like mirragliotta (sp?) saturday?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
andrei
Was on a 4 or 5 win streak before fedor.
And tim had lost to randy but was kicking the crap out of nog before getting subbed. Andrei if I remember corect was dominating fedor fight for 3 mins before getting caught.
I agree fedor would lose to some ufc guys but I dony think he will lose to werdum
dan hardy took a beating but he won me over as a fan.
by Phenomenal Angel on Mar 30, 2010 1:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you think Fabricio Werdum is top competition then your an idiot. MMA is a new sport and its quickly evolving, guys are geting better faster. I’m not sure how great Nogueira and Cro Crop were. People were quick to make excuses for them, oh he’s past his prime or his hearts just not in it any more. Maybe, just maybe they couldn’t keep up with the sport.
I never said Herring was great
My point is he beat legit guys that UFC fans love to use as examples for their beloved JDS and Cain but fail to recognize when Fedor beat them when they were at the top of their game. I only used Herring cause UFC felt Brock was worthy of a title shot after beating him.
Actually
Werdum left the UFC due to contract disputes. His last two fights there were, if I recall, wins over Vera and Gonzaga.
Check the facts.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
His last fight was a quick KO loss to JDS, wasn't it?
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
No
He fought gonzaga and vera (the one who blew up Mir) afterwards.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
his last fight was against JDS...and it wasn't a farewell fight.
Werdum was in line for a title shot so he was pissed he had to fight a new comer in JDS. He let the UFC know he had a problem and they basically told him to win the fight if he was so great. Obviously he got KTFO and the UFC let him go because he chirped them before the fight.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
they basically told him to win the fight if he was so great
So, Werdum really had a chance against, arguably, the best striker in the HW division? And you don’t think that was a farewell fight? Probably don’t think Tito was given Machida as a farewell fight either, huh?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
farewell fight or not, doesn't change the fact that numb nuts JOHNNY WF is telling me Werdum fought someone in the UFC after JDS.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
he didn't...jay's right
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
lol, agreed.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I was mistaken
Attacking me makes you look childish.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
suck it up Johnny you're the one who told jay to "check the facts" when in fact you should have checked the facts
so don’t get pissed when somebody calls you out after you tried to call them out
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't even being childish, I tried over and over to tell you that you were wrong.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I wasn’t talking to jay when I said that.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let it go, your posts are solid. Just a difference of opinion. No harm, no foul, JWF.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Alright
Just screwed up, I admit it.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
by Johnny WF on Mar 30, 2010 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ULF this was JDS's first fight in the UFC...betting odds had him at +1100 when they came out
he was not even close to being recognized as an elite striker in the UFC…they just wanted Werdum to have one more fight before he got a shot at the title
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
DW knew what he was, what camp he came from and his boxing/power background.
That fight was a coming out party for JDS, and I won a lot of money on him, but I remember getting +600, not +1100.
Although I will admit to a bit of revisionist history to prove my point.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
k i'll tell you exactly how it went down lol
JDS came in at +1100, then they showed him hitting the mitts in one of Dana White’s blogs and you could clearly see this guys got some serious boxing skill. So the line immediately dropped down to +650 (or 600) or whatever. If Werdum would have subbed JDS they would never have cut him from the UFC though. But i won a lot of money on that fight too so cheers!! lol
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
btw Ulf i have been on this site since it was UFC mania and its extremely nice to see a new (well now newer) poster
actually be informed and able to debate different topics without resorting to childish name-calling and other ridiculous shit we are subject to by newcomers. cheers bro!
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
thx.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
You are not correct.
Werdum was given JDS as his farewll to the UFC. DW does not give guys that he doesn’t want to resign (werdum), guys that they can beat (vera or gg). See also: Ortiz, Tito.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
i dont get how you see this as a farewell fight ULF? did you even watch the UFC when this was all going down?
JDS was a HUGE underdog (came in at +1100!) and Werdum was in line for a title shot but he ran his mouth to the UFC about having to fight a newcomer and they were pissed. So when he lost after talking so much shit they cut him because thats how the UFC operates.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
see above.
Thanks for the call-out on age. much appreciated.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
lol at least we both made some money on the JDS - Werdum fight
i think we can both agree that JDS is the man.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Too much MMA math going around here. Best HW prospects are in the UFC. Fact. Werdum is the only legit choice due to a tiny pool at SF. Barnett is out, Overeem is MIA, who else can SF get, Jay?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
waaay too much math man.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Without the sauce, I am not sure Barnett or Overroids is a quality HW.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Oh, I'm not blaming this on the match making of SF. This is Fedor's fault.
Fine. He doesn’t get along with Dana, Don’t come to the UFC. But. don’t expect to be ranked number one if you can’t/won’t/refuse to fight top 3 or top 5 opponents. He can’t stay at 1 beating guys barely in the top 10. Period.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
by jay. on Mar 30, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
again i agree 100%
JDS has fought better competition in the last 2 years than Fedor has in the last 5. Thats saying something.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
oh so he beat a current 205 fighter who has lost 2 in a row...how impressive
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as long as i can still say i hate the french and canadians from quebec its all good
so i guess that means bones would absolutely destroy werdum by your logic
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- MMAMANIA
as long as i can still say i hate the french and canadians from quebec its all good
he would
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
actually i agree...werdum is complete garbage...bones puts on 20 pounds and werdum wouldnt last 1 round
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as long as i can still say i hate the french and canadians from quebec its all good
CASE FOR FABRICIO!!!
I think Fedor will win this fight but…
Fabricio is arguably the best grappler Fedor has ever fought in the world of MMA. look at Werdum’s credentials!!!
ADCC
ADCC 2009 99 kg+: 1st place
ADCC 2007 99 kg+: 1st place
ADCC 2005 99 kg+: 3rd place
ADCC 2003 Absolute: 3rd place 99 kg+: 2nd place
CBJJ World Championships
2004 Black Belt Pesadissimo: 1st Place
2003 Black Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Black Belt Absolute: =3rd Place
2002 Brown Belt Super-Pesado: 3rd Place
2001 Purple Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
2000 Blue Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Blue Belt Absolute: 1st Place
CBJJ Pan American Championships
2003 Black Belt Super Super Heavy: =3rd Place Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
2002 Brown Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place
2001 Purple Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Purple Belt Absolute: 1st Place
CBJJO BJJ World Cup
2004 Black Belt Pesadissimo: 2nd Place Black Belt Absolute: =3rd Place
2003 Black Belt Belt Pesadissimo: 2nd Place
Fedor probably won’t be able to submit this guy, AND HE’LL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HIMSELF!!
On the feet this could be interesting also, Fabricio isn’t a huge lumbering monolith that will stand steady and wait to get hit, he moves well and has finished good guys with strikes before. I actually think that Werdum is a real threat, and one of Fedor’s most dangerous opponents of recent years. The last guy to beat him was JDS, and the last guy before that was AA in 07. Trust me Fabricio is no joke!! he is well rounded, moves well and will give Fedor problems. Fabricio’s best shot is just to rush him true cordeiro style, that way Fedor won’t have time to work out his rhythm and blast his head off and force him to try his luck on the ground where Fabricio is strongest.
But betting against Fedor is stupid…
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 30, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
I did not know that
Iv just retracted a comment lol
Some men are alive simpley because it is against the law to kill them
Don't worry IceFish you were probably right...
Although SFK will have you believe that Werdum is well rounded, he’s not. His stand up is the worst in the entire division(worldwide). His take downs are non-existent and he will be Ko’d very, very early in this fight.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I don't disagree Jay but there are some legit top ten HW's that can be viewed as one dimensional. Brock is a good example but he is still dangerous, right?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Because his one dimension is useful from everywhere. If it is on the ground, Brock is on top punching you.
If it’s on the feet Brock can get you to the ground. Jits isn’t dangerous if the jits guy can’t take anyone down. Know what I mean?
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Point taken. Werdum has only lost to a prime Nog in 2006, a prime AA in 2007 and JDS in 2008. Werdum is legit.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
A legit top 15 fighter. Not top 10.
Oh wait he beat Mike Kyle and Bigfoot last year!
by captainStevo on Mar 30, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You are definately going to be surprized by how much his stand up has improved
His stand up is the worst in the entire division(worldwide)
That was a dumb thing to say, based on what? he got KO’d by JDS? bullshit Jay. who doesn’t get KO’d by JDS?
Nobody is saying he’s fantastic on his feet, but he trains with Rafael Cordeiro and is getting better everyday. He’s only ever been finished once, and that was by arguably the HW with the best boxing in the UFC. next to Toney obv. He’s beat GG twice, Vera and Overeem and he’s gone the distance with Big Nog and Arlovski. I hate this culture of immediately dismissing anyone that is no longer in the UFC.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 31, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you saying Werdum has good stand up? That's fucking rich.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
He is good enough to stand and hang with most HWs
you have some rediculous view that he is one of the worst stand up fighters on the planet… that’s what is fucking rich here. also the fact that you haven’t tried to back up the statement below at all.
His stand up is the worst in the entire division(worldwide)
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 31, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
His stand up is horrible and his punches are not going to stop anyone in the HW division.
I wasn’t impressed with his boxing against Silva. I have never seen him throw an effective kick. The only person I’ve seen him beat with strikes was GG. I haven’t seen all of his fights(I haven’t even bothered watching the fight with Pyle or Kyle) But he doesn’t impress me on the feet. He has a history of crumpling to first contact from big punchers and I fully expect Fedor to KO the dude in the first.
If you believe Werdum has good or serviceable stand up, point out the fight. I wouldn’t mind seeing whatever it is you are seeing. I am yet to see anything in his stand up that makes me believe he can affect Fedor let alone stop him. He has zero chance in this fight(unless it goes to the ground, then he has a small chance) and it is a waste of everyone’s time.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
All those JJ accomplishments wont make a difference
Fedor will just walk up and knock him the fuck out
by captainStevo on Mar 30, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Would GSP be ranked #1 if he only fought
Swick
Kampmann
Hardy?
Fedor needs some fights in the top 5 or the top 3 to stay at the one slot.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Poor fabricio had no idea wuts in store for him!
Fedors guna knock him out on the feet or in the ground! Then we can see fedor fight megareem next.
by d*locc on Mar 30, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Some of you people are really pathetic!
First y’all question everything about GSP yesterday and today “Fedor fights cans, he’s scared of top ten guys”. Come on, appreciate greatness when you see it!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Who gives a shit at the end of the day....Fedor is the man and I would LMFAO if
He signed with the UFC, cleaned out the division and left. It would be sweet if he signed, they gave him JDS and Fedor raped JDS, then KO’d Carwin and finally fought Broc and made him verbally give up, that would be worth the PPV.
All the good sigs are gone.
Funny how people ignores fedors 10-12 years of dominance=D
Not even losing a round! Name another fighter whose last 2 fights were more exciting than fedor. I luv watching fedor fight. There R few names that fedor hasn’t fought. Brock carwin Cain & jds. All young bloods that barley came out on the last year or 2. Fedor is the best till proven otherwise.
by d*locc on Mar 30, 2010 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't make todays rankings from watching fights 10-12 years ago.
Or Pat Militich is still the number 1 WW. :)
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I know 2day rankings R based on big muscles & popularity!
by d*locc on Mar 30, 2010 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2days rankings are based on Skill and ability. Not a list of what you did in the 90's.
It really is more relevant.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I like Fedor but beating Werdum proves nothing as far as being the best goes
Fedor’s legacy is his Pride days after that there is nothing to brag about. Can’t blame M1 though look at the two best fighters that he has faced and how they did. M1 doesn’t want to take the chance their boy will be called washed up like those guys his value would drop huge!! Keeping a winning record is a much smarter business decision.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
well...
Most of the GSP haters are Fedor nuthuggers, and the Fedor skeptics are GSP nuthuggers, so everyone is just taking their turn.
Got that right LJ.
I’m not a Fedor hater, but I give as good as I get. Fedor fighting guys outside the top 5 is a joke. AS fights 2 guys outside of the top 5 since becoming Champ and everyone still brings it up. Fedor hasn’t fought a legit threat since PRIDE and we can’t talk about it? He’s ducking threats and his fans are ducking reality.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I agree that he should fight the best but am still a fan, you can be both.
All the good sigs are gone.
OJR = objective. I did not like the Rogers fight or the Hong Mong Choi fight. I agree with you there. His other opponents have been legit guys, though.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
he has chin issues
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Can't have it both ways jay. Knocking on fedor for not fighting top 5
When gsp just fought sum1 not in the top 5. Werdum isn’t the most exciting fighter but he duz have real gud skills. & I really want 2 see him beat the shit out of overeem.
by d*locc on Mar 30, 2010 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What??!!? Hardy wasn't the #1 contender??!! WTF??!!????
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
yea that's news to me.
i’m pretty sure GSP had already wiped out the division. He has already beaten the top WW’s in Alves, Fitch, Kos, and the rest of the contendors. Hardy was clearly the #1 contendor that GSP HADN’T beat. Therefore your argument is ridiculous. Fedor HASN’T beat any of the top HW’s so how can you compare him to G.S.P? its just stupid.
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
correction..
Fedor hasn’t beat any of the top HW’s lately*
by Blunt n' Beer on Mar 30, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
& fedor didn't clean out the HW division for 10 years?
He was guna fight # 2 Barnet b4 he got popped. I know Gsp cleaned out the division but that duznt change the fact hardys nit a top 5 WW. I cud name that R better than hardy
by d*locc on Mar 30, 2010 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Difference being locc that GSP has cleared out the top 5 very recently. He doesn't have a choice.
Fedor hasn’t even fought any of the top 5 guys in his life. Current top 5 guys I mean.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
You aren't implying that GSP is ducking top competition too, are you d*locc?
LOL
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
If Fedor beat Brock/Cain/Shane/JDS, then he can go fight the Werdum/Grim/Overeem's all he wants.
He can’t stay number one without fighting a TOP 5 guy this decade.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Not even. I'm saying there doing the best with wut they got.
by d*locc on Mar 30, 2010 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know Fedor is fighting the best he can. I agree with that. But he can't be ranked number one if he doesn't fight other guys in the top 5.
GSP could leave the UFC today and start doing crack-join a small MMA circuit in Canada fighting “the best available”. How long do you think it would take for people to start yelling he isn’t the number one ww? Fedor wouldn’t stand a chance against the big wrestlers in the UFC, so his number one ranking needs to be stripped immediately.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I don't disagree with that logic but that number 1 ranking ain't going to Brock, that's for sure.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Oh yes it is. Whether you like it or not OJ. :)
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I promise to get into a civil discussion with you about it and long as you and PH don't double team me. Deal?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Me and Puck do work back to back on all Brock topics.
So, I can’t promise anything. ;)
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Ok, Jay and PH...here goes...My #1 rank would be based on activity, quality opponent and overall record. Right now, I would have Fedor over Brock based on that alone.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I can't disagree right now OJR
I would bet on Brock over Fedor if that fight was ever to happen but Brock doesn’t have enough victories over top opponets as of yet. If Brock beats Carwin and then Cain I think the rankings need to be looked at again. All time fighter no doubt Fedor deserves to be were he’s at. Today’s ranking I don’t think he should be ranked as high by the year end regardless wether it’s Brock, Carwin, Cain or JDS, hell are alll of them. Beating guys like Werdum and Rogers proves he’s still good it doesn’t prove he’s the best in the world though.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Fair enough, PH. I cannot disagree with such a logical view of things. Are you sure you are a Brock fan? LOL. Shortest debate ever.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah if Brock wins his next two fights I can see the ranking change
Opinions are changing more than ever and it’s a good thing no more of this boxing BS. To be the best you must beat the best and today beating CC and NOG by decision does not warrant beating the best in todays MMA.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I would like to see be surprised...
…but I just don’t know what Werdum can do to Fedor unless he’s become a significantly different fighter.
I will say this
I was impressed by the way Fabricio handled himself against Bigfoot. He’s got good jiujitsu but Fedor moves so fast and scrambles so well on the ground he may have a hard time grabbing him. All this is moot really since Fabricio has very little stand-up defense and that’s trouble against Fedor.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Mar 30, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor Last word......
the simple fact is Fedor is a Great fighter with a amazing record but until he comes for a short stint in the UFC he will always have doubters no believers like me…. fight where the best fight simple as that… prove your the best,, then you have a legacy
fedor knows that to… his decision though …. maybe he is happy… the fans are not… he will always be remembered for being great but never came to the ufc to prove himself…
and thats the hole debate
come and shut every one up …..
even better beat brock and leave thats perfect….. some of these new guys might be getting even better than brock
wow, I just spent like 30 minutes reading this whole page...
and all I can take away that jay and the Anti-Fedor army are desperately trying to do any MMA math they can come up with to disprove Fedor #1 ranking, while the Fedor advocates are pointing out the obvious problems with it.
Hilarious, but what else is new?
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I am about to debate both Jay and PH. A little help, mate? :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Hey guy's I'm not anti Fedor jsut cause I don't think he's the best
I love Wandy but don’t think he’s the best anymore and I like Fedor the greatest HW of all time!! I jsut don’t think he’s number 1 anymore. You guy’s read too much into this jsut becasue I don’t think he’s the best anymore or the competion he is facing warrants a number one ranking doesn’t mean I hate Fedor. I will admit I hate M1 and think they are typical Don King or boxing promoters and are the main reason we don’t see Fedor in the UFC. If Fedor rankings did change maybe M1 would want to prove them wrong?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Its all good, PH. I know you are fair. Its your partner in crime, Jay, who is the fiery guy that I worry about. *looking over my shoulder*
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I like Fedor(the person). He's exactly my type of fighter.
I don’t like his ranking without fighting a top 5 guy in 5 years. That is all I am saying. OJR, if there was a fight and me and you were in the same room, you better believe I would be right beside you.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
All good, thanks.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I feel like this debate is pointless...
kinda like a circular argument.
a: Fedor beat abc
b: but abc sucked at the time
c: but abc beat xyz who Brock also beat
d: yeah but Brock only fought lmn and opq except for xyz
e: But at least Brock fights in the best league, fedor should fight there
f: Why doesn’t Brock come over and fight the #1 ranked fighter?
etc.etc.etc.
It’s pointless in the sense that there is no interlock between the rating candidates (Strikeforce fighters don’t fight UFC fighters) and even where there is one, people use MMA math prove/disprove any fantasy matchups. (that was BEFORE he got owned, No that was when he was STILL ranked, yeah but xxx was ranked higher on the sherdog list in 1998 ,BLABLABLA)
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I'm only saying that the number one guy hasn't fought another guy in the top 5 in 5 years.
That means something to me. That is all I am saying. Nothing more, nothing less.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
I know jay and I get your point.
I agree with you that there should be a way to make better rankings.
But why do almost 100% of MMA publications rank Fedor as #1? He has never lost, has fought the best he had available in the promotions he fought for and is still active.
I think people should take rankings far less seriously… But on the other hand it makes for cool fantasy matchups. I love thinking about even just the slight potential of a future Fedor-Brock fight. THAT is what we should care about, not some list someone made.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Couple points
You’re right Free, it’s all bad mma math. PH made good points and i agree that IF Brock beats Carwin and Cain he should be 1, but that’s IF. Fedor hasn’t beat top guys recently but Brock hasn’t ever.
yep also agree Merk.
If Brock beats Carwin and Cain, a valid point can be made for a #1 ranking.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I hope over the next few months there are a few new exciting fighters introduced...
To the MMA world, cause i am sick shit about reading the same old shit over and over………..
BJ this, GSP that, Brock this, Fedor that. With the introduction of PB and a few other turds and the constant repetitive regurgitated debates about the same old BS, I think that Mania is not as enlightening as it used to be. For fucks sake would Fedor ever sign with the UFC so we have something else to talk about it. Junie or WM now would almost be more interesting to talk about than another post on GSP, BJ, or Brock.
All the good sigs are gone.
Most Of The Time
I avoid any topic around Fedor. First it starts with Fedor is overrated. Who has he fought. Then its like WHAT? Well who has Brock fought. Then Randy was too small. HMC was a freak show. AA was out of his prime. Timmy was washed up. Never ending. We just need to realize that label of best of all time is a figure of speech in MMA. Who knows how well Fedor would have done had he been born the same year and at the same weight as Royce, Frank, Chuck, Wand, Brock, etc. Fedor is the best of our generation.
You went to a post about Fedor hoping for something other than Fedor ?
That was your first mistake
I was Hoping
We Could All Just Get Along
by AintNoSunshine on Mar 30, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said,
The introduction of PB and a few other turds and the constant repetitive regurgitated debates about the same old BS does get annoying.
All the good sigs are gone.
This is an MMA site. Topics are bound to be repeated.
You can’t talk about Fedor once then never again. Every time his name comes up it is the same subject, because he hasn’t rectified the problem yet.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Well it is getting old and boring imo, lets just say i'll be logged off alot more than on.
At the end of the day, Fedor is deserved of all the credit he gets just for the simple fact that he has an undefeated record (not a shitty cut loss) and no-one has been able to stop him, no-one and until that day has to be known as the best.
Not even Broc or AS will be able to string as many wins together as Fedor, he is the best at what he does and until he loses on live TV will have my backing.
All the good sigs are gone.
Funny that the Fedor fans want to ignore the loss column when talking Fedor.
He does get credit. He WAS a great fighter.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
Werdum is slow and can’t damage Fedor stand-up. If he had heavy hands would’ve stopped Big Foot taking advantage of the chances he had.
“Vai Cavalo” is a good jiu-jitsu black belt but remind it’s not grappling, it’s mma and the Russian has defeated Nogueira twice and Nogueira is the best grappler ever in MMA.
Will Fabricio stand Fedor’s punch? Look, Junior dos Santos destroyed him so I wonder what Emelianenko will do.
Is it a good match-up? Yeah, taking in account the names avaiable it is but don’t expect any different outcome than Fedor winning by TKO or KO.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
That WAMMA belt is as legitimate as a $7 dollar bill
“If you can’t run with the big dogs stay on stay on the porch”. Fedor and his camp making there own belts HA. I’m glad Dana White has the nutt sac to stand up to them Russians.
Wow...
Jay and the rest of the mania girls sorority “I sucka Brocka” pulled up an ran from an argument because they can’t win it. What a a bunch of cowards.
www.colossaldouchebag.com
Thank god there is no-one here cause we have heard it all before from both sides.....lol
All the good sigs are gone.
SD What are you talking about? We argued for days already on the same topic.
It got boring. Brock doesn’t deserve his title fight Blah blah blah..
You got old real quick. Like I said, come back when he has beaten all your favorite fighters. Then I can slap this top 5 in your face again.
SD’s top 5
Fedor
Mir
Cain
Nog
Barnett
You sure know how to pick them.
"GSP (ESP) is the most predictable fighter in the UFC"
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