UFC Quick Quote: Georges St. Pierre not impressed with his performance
by Jesse Holland on Mar 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT
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"I was not that pleased about my performance. I won, but I haven’t beat my performance of last time, so I’m not happy. I wanted to finish, you know, have a clean win and for me, like this, it’s not clean. I forgot the technical element of it. Sometimes those technical details make the difference. I wanted to go 100 percent. I trained (submissions) to break. At one point, I was like, ‘Man, I think I broke his shoulder,’ and then one time I thought I’d broke his arm when I had the juju-gatame. I heard like ‘click, click.’ It was completely extended. I believe my standup is superior (to Hardy’s), but it could have been a risk because that’s his main asset."
Regining UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre is critical of his performance at the UFC 111 post fight press conference (via Sherdog.com) when talking about his main event title fight against Dan Hardy at the March 27 event from the Prudential Center in Newark. "Rush" controlled the fight for all five rounds with a superios wrestling and top game but was unable to finish the British striker despite several deep arm locks that had "The Outlaw" grimacing in pain. While it was another unanimous decision win for the champ, he's not pleased with his performance. Any fans out there want to let him off the hook for not finishing a fighter that was clearly overmatched?
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Now if Fitch the Bitch could say something like that
People might not hate him as much.
by Lester The Pimp on Mar 28, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
i agree gsp u were boring!
apart from the 2 sub attempts hardy was never in trouble.gsp controlled the fight yeah but what strikes from the top did he land really.i suppose some credit should got to hardy.off his back he did better than fitch,alves and penn!
Yeah, except for almost having his arm ripped off and having his other arm bent almost completely in half, Hardy was in no trouble. Easy night for him.
/sarcasm
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
And the mount position he had 4 times. Also that side control dropping knees didn't look to impressive for Dan.
GSP killed this guy and of course the people who don’t like him are saying GSP was boring. None of you dicks even watched the fight, you watched the clock hoping for a decision so you could complain.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
by jay. on Mar 28, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i watched it mate and i nearly fell asleep.positions mean shit
evans was on top of silva for 2 rounds and did no damage.was there any marks on dans face?no.mount doesnt mean fuck all if u do nothing with it!
OK. Scott you seem to be the expert.
Just keep hating on GSP. Mount does do something, it broke Dan Hardy last night. Did you see his face between the fourth and fifth round? He was mentally broken from being dominated. GSP kills the spirit of these dudes until they realize that GSP really is THAT good.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
i like gsp i think hes an awesome athlete
he just bores the hell out of me lately.hardy mentally broken,no chance.yeah gsp is THAT good.at least kenny florian finishes fights lol
yea jay i agreed down below
u could tell after the 3rd round hardy knew he could win…and just wanted to look as good as he could in the final 2 rounds
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
jay's 100% correct
there’s no comparing what gsp did on the ground to what jon fitch did(nothing), gsp constantly worked positions, sub attempts and g-n-p, it just turns out that dan hardy is one tough s.o.b. and is apparently double jointed or at least he is now
My whole understanding of human physiology has shattered yesterday.
How could Hardy escape those submission attempts? I just don’t get it. I am baffled. For real. I am mystified.
"He's in trouble, I'm telling you right now."
- UFC Welterweight Champion George St. Pierre on Dan Hardy's hopes.
was shattered^^
"He's in trouble, I'm telling you right now."
- UFC Welterweight Champion George St. Pierre on Dan Hardy's hopes.
Okay...I have to say this.
I am kind of curious – I’ve watched fights where 1 dude spends 2 full rounds on top of a guy patting him ever-so-lightly on the head with his fist while going for the same sub over-and-over-and-over until he gets it, and then I’ll come on here and people will be going ape-shit over this idiot’s grappling. GSP was all over that guy from guard to half guard, to side control, to full mount and north/south. He looked for rear naked chokes, armbars, arm triangles, kimuras, 2 knee bars and some other leg lock or maybe a heel hook, he also did strike effectively when it was on the feet, he bloodied up Hardy a bit and virtually tenderized his mid-section in the last 2 rounds. GSP is not a boring ground fighter. He’s very active and looks for more than one sub while employing striking to the entire body and passing to more dominant positions.
I’m not saying it was a good fight. I’m just saying maybe it’s not completely Georges’ fault that he dominated Hardy like an overweight big brother.. you know?
by Fleet on Mar 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well said Fleet.
"He's in trouble, I'm telling you right now."
- UFC Welterweight Champion George St. Pierre on Dan Hardy's hopes.
I thought GSP looked amazing last night
His ground game was masterful, but It frustrates me that he is such a pussy that we will never really get to see his stellar stand up again.
I told you guys that Hardy was going to impress. Sure he was outclassed, but his toughness will take him a long way in the future!
Only fighter left for GSP to face is Sheilds, Paulo, SEmtex, Nick Diaz
The fight was fn boring!!! An Jay...don't forget our bet!
You said that at least 80% of the fight will be on the feel! LOL not even 8% was standing. If you forget what your sig has to say let me know and I will gladly remind you.
keyword..
almost..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
naah
The keyword was “/sarcasm”
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
BJ would have tap and his mom would have been on the cage trying to get to GSP.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Yeah, he tapped with a midget sitting on his chest
And not sitting on his stool.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I'll leave BJ alone as I'm a fan of him too but this bashing GSP is ridiculous!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
they cant all be BJ fans lol
listen GSP is the best WW but it didnt look good that he couldnt finish Dan thats all no big deal. That is why i he is taking some much heat. George knows this aswell just read what he is saying. But he still won the fight and it was easy. So it wasn’t the GSP that we all thought we would see But a win is a win.
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
I'd
bet money that BJ’s mom would beat the shit out of your ass.
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
I'll take that bet, BJ's mom is an old worn out bag.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Beat my ass?
Don’t make me laugh. I wouldn’t hit an old lady anyways.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
fool
gsp fighting bj he would look shinny again.and are u dumb vsp sub attempt on bj.works the other way around foo
What do shins have to do with anything?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
The Shins defeated The Punctuations.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
FUCK u guys!
joking by the way! yea it was a little boring but only because GSP is on a different level than these guys and watching them try to fight him is a bit shit cos he just dominates and such 1-sided affairs arent usually exciting.
Its like saying why does Dan hardy not take it to the ground in his fights – because he feels superior standing up just like GSP does on the ground!
He fights smart, which is what a mixed martial artist should fight like – its just GSPs style – he doesnt have KO power and most likely never will so why would he stand up with guys who do when hes such a great wrestler!
Her has loads to lose, so obviously he will be cautious and not make a stand up battle of it when it is not needed.
I would like to see a top class grappler take GSP on next but i cant think of many which are anywhere near close to being as well rounded as GSP is!
PS. I think GSP would have toyed hardy on the feet if it came to it, all hardy had was a 1 punch chance a la matt serra!
In years to come ppl will look back at GSP and marvel at how he makes fighters crumble – HArdy knew it was over after the 3rd round just like Alves did showing that GSP broke them mentaly in my opinion.
PPS – Damn HARDY has some big balls, it looked like GSP stopped at 1 stage in that kimura because he couldnt believe there was no tap!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
level?
if he is on a different level he would not have stayed in d same weight class,ah anderson siva,bj,thats another level,im afraid one day somebody is gonna get pregnant inside the octagon look what he’s doin lol
You shouldve won clean!!
A cleanly broken arm!!! I thought I broke his arm…..phhhh, you wouldve felt it pop and break. He’s to soft!!
GSP COULD HAVE FINISHED SO EASILY...WHY DIDN'T HE????
GSP had side control a lot and Dan’s arm was just hanging around GSP’s legs. I don’t get why GSP didn’t pull off the crucifix and throw elbows and punches in bunches. If GSP wants to finish fights he has to take a page out of Carwin’s book and not just explode for the takedowns but explode when throwing as well!
Just Do It
-Nike
He didn,'t because he was afraid of losing position
GSP fights not to lose now
by TheBiggertheyare... on Mar 28, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Gsp is turning in2 Jon fitch!
I hope sum1 knocks him out or else were guna see nothing but 5 round LnP till he retires!
by d*locc on Mar 28, 2010 10:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hes turning into Sean Sherk
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
by ( (Adam G) ) on Mar 28, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
????? . . .
WHY doesnt GSP stop telling us his “stratAgy” (all he does is flip flop every fight and tell us why he took this opponent to the ground) its a f*cking joke right?! BJ, Serra, Kos = “Iwanted to beat them where they were their best, on the ground.” Hardy, Fitch, Alves = "I wanted to beat them where they are their weakest, on the ground . . . . . . " Just say you’re a puss that doesnt like to stand, that you wont ever stand again in your entire career unless you absolutly have no chaice. Why lie, and make up a reason, YOU’RE GSP FOR GODS SAKE!!!! "My startagy is to win Sean Sherk style, not cause im a wrestler, cause im affraid of losing, im affraid to be knocked out and then critisized for my mistake, I CARE TOO MUCH WHAT PEOPLE THINK, PERIOD. One punch from Hardy to the chin to open the fight, the takedowns never stop coming after that . . . . .This is fighting Georges, are you ever gonna fight again?
GREAT showing by Diaz and Hardy . . . . Dan The Unbreakable Outlaw Hardy.
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
by ( (Adam G) ) on Mar 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Here ya go buddy
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
by mythbuster on Mar 28, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha!
Your on a roll this morning mythbuster.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
This is rubbish
People are booing over Jon Fitch doing lay n pray but yet are saying how great GSP is for doing it. I have watched GSP for a while now and I do think he is as boring as all the lay n prayers. But, it is his strength he does not have knock out power and so he utilises his wrestling which is his strength.
I am a Brit but even I knew Hardy had no chance in this because over here we do not wrestle we box so it was always going to be one sided. But this is MMA and wrestling is part of that, but I just do not understand the people who boo one minute for somebody who is laying n praying and then cheering if it is GSP doing the same thing!!
I have watched UFC since the second Liddell vs Horn fight and I think the UFC is far superior now to back then (hence why Liddell is no longer at the top of the pile (and I am a fan by the way), give our UK guys time to learn wrestling and maybe we will match the US and Canadian fighters.
"he does not have knock out power" LOL
GSP wasn’t doing the same thing as Fitch. I guess since you live in the UK you can’t tell the difference.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
GSP does have KO power, which is why it's frustrating when he doesn't utilise it
He fought safe against an outclassed opponent, effective yes, entertaining no in my opinion. GSP is better and more exciting than he showed last night, even he admits that win wong do anything to build his legacy.
Fitch: (On a potential fight with Kos) "That will only happen in our gym with the doors locked"
Dana: "That's going to sell a lot of tickets"
by David W-S on Mar 28, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
u think so David??
i love GSP but i think that is the only thing he doesnt or never will have!
i think is striking is amazing to watch but he cant KO people clean!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Mythbuster
GSP is a skilled fighter and perhaps fighting shouldn’t be about the entertainment factor, but you know what??? It is, and there’s nothing to be done about that. People will complain about a boring performance because they spent money watching something they didn’t enjoy watching. The risk of GSP standing and trading is becoming far less than the risk of GSP taking more fights to the ground without finishing.
Just Do It
-Nike
The problem is...
…that it WASN’T boring. It is, as Rogan put it, the meathead factor, the “just bleed” idiots, the fairweather fans who just want to see a glorified barroom brawl. These are the people who boo as soon as a fight hits the ground, or come to forums and whine that a fight was boring simply because they didn’t understand it.
I don’t know how much value the UFC puts in these people (I would hope not too much), but in the long run they are meaningless.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I agree with you
A fighter should always try to finish a fight but their style in doing so shouldn’t matter. But i’m a little confused as to how paying fans with opinions, just like you and me, don’t matter to the UFC organization or to GSP.
Just Do It
-Nike
“in the long term”, meaning many of these “just bleed” types aren’t going to stay around when the next thing comes along. It’s killing the goose to get the golden egg inside her, rather than nurturing her to get many golden eggs in the future.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
the "just bleed" types are putting up the cash
So if they leave, then no money
thats why its important to have entertaining fights
by TheBiggertheyare... on Mar 28, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Those newbie rockem sockem fans aren't putting up the money.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
They are putting up the money NOW, but again I am talking about long term business.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
You guys want boring - watch Couture
How can anyone say that any of his recent fights were exciting. I agree that last nights GSP performance let me down big time…..sure he was all over Hardy and out-classed him, but what the hell was with the stupid instructions from Jackson?
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Mar 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree about Couture
The guy is a legend, sure, but enough is enough. Watching his fights is painful.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Exactly David
I’ve said this in response to more GSP extremism in another thread. GSP aint going to create a legacy that is worthy of respect playing it safe and not using his full array of skills.
He’s damn near admitting he’s scared to fight another fighter in a discipline they excel at yet he is outstanding at all aspects of the game and a rival to anyone in the WW division in any aspect of the game.
He always sticks to the game plan, I just miss they dynamic GSP, not the nullifying GSP.
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 28, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This is rubbish
People are booing over Jon Fitch doing lay n pray but yet are saying how great GSP is for doing it.
It’s not rubbish, and GSP doesn’t LnP. I know Lay n Pray is a term people like to use with people who don’t stand n bang, but that doesn’t make it accurate. Go watch boxing if all you want is fisticuffs, or watch WWE if all you want are matches where winning and losing is secondary to exciting.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
This is fighting Georges, MMA is only fought on the feet.
Looks like Retarded Adam G is back.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Call it
what you want, Sherk does it, Lay and pray, GSP does it and makes excuse for it and its cool, tool.
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
by ( (Adam G) ) on Mar 28, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
We should start calling out AS for not going to the ground then. Why is OK for a striker to only strike, but a grappler who wants to grapple sucks. You guys are rediculous.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on Mar 28, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's about the push to finish
It was obvious, georges could have finished the fight whenever he wanted if he took the risk to explode…people are frustrated with him not pulling the trigger, regardless of whether it’s on the ground or standing.
Just Do It
-Nike
Retard. LNP is sitting in someones guard and throwing love punches at them hoping to keep them there without doing damage.
You have a serious hate for GSP and any decision would have been complained about by you. Don’t call what GSP does LnP, because obviously you don’t know what it is. He didn’t sit still once, he was rarely if ever in his guard, and he almost subbed him twice(both times would have been taps if this weren’t a title fight).
Dan wasn’t going to quit in his only title shot he’ll ever get. The only way GSP was going to stop him was to break something. GSP didn’t need to break something to win, he isn’t like that.
Suck a dick Adam.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
GSP's face looked worse than Hardy's
which is sad considering their respective positions throughout the fight
GSP doesn’t pose a damaging threat and I don’t think he’s unbeatable by any means
Just Do It
-Nike
Luckily, fights aren’t decided on whose face looks better afterwards.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He's unbeatable.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
He still doesn't look unbeatable at WW to you?
I’m not accounting for imaginary men that don’t fight. Do you think there is a WW in the world that could beat GSP if he stuck to last nights game plan? He is in fact unbeatable right now.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
In your fantasy land there is a man on earth that weighs 170 and can beat GSP at MMA
Doesn’t mean anything.
He is unbeatable because he has fought everyone in the world(that matters) and beaten them all. Quite handily I might add.
There isn’t a person left on earth that can beat GSP at 170. Therefore he is unbeatable genius.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Jay, you seem a cool guy, but...
if you think that two significant attempts at ending the fight (both failed), over a 25minute period of complete control over the fight, effective let alone entertaining… then you are living in dream land. I was genuinely shocked at how little Georges seemed to try and finish, he didn’t look gassed, he didn’t ever look hurt, he was just totally ineffective when it came to actually pulling the trigger and hurting Dan. He couldn’t pull off the subs, and in all complete open honesty, if you watch it back, Fitch’s GnP actually looked better and more effective than GSP’s. I beleive you’ve also said on here that the difference between what GSP did last night and what Guida, Fitch etc. do is that he passes and gains position etc. fact is Jay, regardless of whether they’re in mount or in gaurd, if no damage is done then the end result is the same.
Yes his take downs are impeccable
Yes he is an amazing athlete
Y
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 29, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
didn't finish!
Yes he is Canadian and I get that you might be a little biased
but come on man!!! even you couldn’t have been happy with that. GSP can’t pull the trigger anymore… he doesn’t even seem to know where the trigger is anymore. I was shocked that he couldn’t finish this fight…
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 29, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasnt boring when he was bouncing BJs pineapple head off the mat
All the BJ taint lickers are pissed because yet another welterweight was able to go the distance with GSP, while BJ nearly had his career ended. He doesnt have to change his style to please you or what you think fighting should look like.
by captainStevo on Mar 28, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
it has nothing to do w/ bj
it’s that gsp is no where near exciting as he used to be, when he actually mixed his skills together. remember the first 2 hughes fights? that is the gsp people want to see. last night he did not throw one punch with any intention.
It won't happen every fight wand.
Hardy is ONLY good at striking(he’s not even that good at that) so GSP didn’t let him strike at all. Remember when Dan Hardy said " I hope it goes 5 rounds because I will touch his chin in that 25 minutes and GSP will sleep" Well it went 25 minutes and Dan Hardy didn’t land a single thing. He is killing people and he is dominating them like no one else can, yet all these dudes are complaining?
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
GSP is terrified
and I hope he can work it out with a therapist soon because it’s ruining his career
Just Do It
-Nike
Yep, ruining his career. One of the best fighters on the planet, WW champ, endorsements out the ying-yang, and an awesome fight record. He sounds hurting to me.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I don't think whining haters matter.
There’s enough educated fans to shut the whining, slug-fest fans up in these forums.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
yea because forums are full of educated fans
most of the casual fans, who aren’t on mma forums, won’t watch future GSP fights
Just Do It
-Nike
OK ja, we know that you are a huge Penn fan but at least GSP has the class to admit that he was not impressed with his performance last night.
Can that be said for your fighter, or any other fighter that won? We know the story behind Penn so we won’t re-live that here for the 1000th time, but how about Silva vs Leites or Cote???? Those certainly were not dazzling by any extent and they still consider AS to be one of the top P4P fighters out there. I too was disappointed by GSP last night as I wanted a finish SOOOOO BAD!!! But then again, seeing how Hardy was morally defeated even after the 3rd rd made me feel better.
Every fighter has a night off – I just hope that GSP doesn’t listen to Jackson in the corner the next fight and he goes for broke.
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Mar 28, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And for the record, GSP is one of the fans top, if not THE TOP, MMA fighter.
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Mar 28, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for much longer!
Who the fuck wants to see 25 min of that every time??? HOLY FUCKING SHIT WAS THAT BORING!!!!!!!!
A - F^%&*ING - MEN
I couldn’t agree with you more! NO risk in him. I am glad peeps are starting to realize, I have said for the last year or so that GSP’s is best at taking people down and not allowing them to get up. There’s other fighters that I can’t stand because of Cockiness A Silva, Torres, Mir but GSP is F U K I N G BORING!
BOTTOM LINE finish the fight so I can watch some prelims. I don’t care if you think he is exciting the faster the fights finish the more I get to see. So hurry your Frenchie ass!
I think it was a marketing thing, cant have the poster boy mangling peoples bodies
Did anyone else notice that when George had that Kimora that he was looking around as if seeking advise. I think he could have broken the shoulder if he wanted an chose not to. I agree the fight was kinda boring other than the sub. attempts but breaking or even crippling someone in the cage is not something Dana White wants to see i’ll tell ya that much.
I noticed GSP look like what should I do now?
Hardy is an animal for not tapping or is just a masochist.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I agree . . .
He even looked at the ref for an answer to the dilemma, heres an answer, break the friggin thing!!! LOVE HARDY BUT thats that, get caught and wont tap, SNAP! George will never break someones anything, George cant finish anyone his height (185 will be a joke for GSP as guys finish him consistantly, which occurs when you actually fight guys your size, and being 6 foot doesnt make Hardy GSP’s size) Defend what gsp does all you huggers want, he’ll never give the fans his full potential as a fighter cause he wants to win too badly, his mind is a clusterf*ck, and hes too soft to actuall do what he goes into the octagon to do, finish fights. BJ BJ BJ!!!
“I dont finish fights! EVER!! Unless you are 5’9 and smaller please, thank you!” . . . Georges st-Pierre, 3/27/10.
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
by ( (Adam G) ) on Mar 28, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Georges is always the bigger guy no matter what to you retards.
Alves was thicker than GSP, but you guys said Georges is taller so therefore GSP is the bigger fighter. Now Hardy is taller than GSP, but GSP is a bit thicker in your mind, so GSP is the bigger fighter. Fuck off AG.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
It's the exact argument they always use.
He’s either taller or thicker than his opponents and which ever one it is in that fight, THAT is the thing that matters.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Kudos to this comment!
Tai_Guy, I couldn’t agree more. If GSP wasn’t so respectful and such a spiritual martial artist he definitely would have snapped Hardy’s arm/shoulder. I saw the same thing. Now the haters are going to jump all over that, but man I don’t think it’s necessary to snap someones arm either. I’d be happier with my choice to torque a guys arm for him to tap, then snapping it and forcing him out of the fight game for a long time. Snapping Hardy’s arm would have caused all the haters to trash Georges as well, it’s a lose/lose situation.
Either you like GSP’s style or you don’t. Good thing this is MMA and not K-1 and GSP is the best all around MMA fighter out there.
Quit Dodging him!!!!
The only reason i took Gsp in this fight is cause i want to see anderson silva destroy him. i thought for sure when he said in primetime that he was adding 10 pounds to his frame it was to move up and challange himself.
But he’s still Dodging him!!!
No one will ever think you’re best until you fight AS Georgy.
It feels like he’s waiting for silva to get too old. cause thats where he’s at his weakest.
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
It's all about insecurity
GSP is sooooo scared to lose. He’s afraid to be judged negatively and there’s nothing wrong with that but he has to watch out because being so cautious might generate the response he fears so much….negative judgment.
Just Do It
-Nike
by ja434650 on Mar 28, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"he only reason i took Gsp in this fight is cause i want to see anderson silva destroy him" It had nothing to do with the odds?
“No one will ever think you’re best until you fight AS Georgy.” WRONG.
Nobody ever said he was going to gain 10 pounds and fight a guy that walks around at 225. Quit waiting for it to happen. Georges isn’t going to move up and fight Silva just to get knocked out to please a couple retards like yourself.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Not betting for money just going for him to win
And anderson wants to fight heavyweight! 2 weight classes above his norm because he wants to challange himself.
if george doesn’t move up fitch and alves and probably hardy will just keep knocking off every other contender and george will be decisioning guys those three over and over. Thats no legacy, thats no legacy at all. I believe gsp when he says he wants to be the best. sooner or later he’ll realize he cant be the best staying at 170 fighting the same guys over an over.
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually have you seen how much AS weighs. Why wouldn’t he want to fight the smaller heavy weights, he weighs naturally as much as them, and is much faster and more skilled then them. I think it would be easier for him to win at HW compared to LHW. The skill level is lower in HW than any other weight division.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
smaller or bigger heavyweights
the point is AS will put himself in there with anyone, he wants to give the fans the fights they want to see.
nobody wants to see gsp fitch 2,3,4,
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that I can agree with
Andy will fight anyone at any weight at anytime, give him what’s left of Wank Mir once he KOs a great but overmatched Maia. GSP is a legend but what happened to the promised striking clinic and brutal KO? So much for the GSP will stand for most of the fight bet jay. Unless Shields and Diaz sign asap or GSP moves up he’ll grow stale beating the same people in the same way every fight. Can’t bash the success but at the same time I can’t say that I’m looking forward to his next defence either.
Fitch: (On a potential fight with Kos) "That will only happen in our gym with the doors locked"
Dana: "That's going to sell a lot of tickets"
by David W-S on Mar 28, 2010 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"So much for the GSP will stand for most of the fight bet jay." I don't know who I made that bet with so the bet is off.
I really was disappointed that GSP fought the way he did, but I wasn’t bored at all.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
NICK DIAZ IS THE MAN TO BEAT GSP!!!!!!!!!!
AKA…..the most exciting fighter vs. the most boring fighter
Just Do It
-Nike
Have you seen Diaz fight wrestlers??? I don’t like Diaz, but I can recognize he has a tonne of skill, but he would get mauled.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
diaz has improved a lot
GSP would be the favorite, but I think nick could do it and it could be a good fight, if GSP didn’t prevent the fight from happening
Just Do It
-Nike
Diaz has shown you what that makes you think he could stop GSP from slamming him?
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
jay. is a big Diaz fan also, and he agrees. Until I see him fight a good wrestler again, I don’t give him a chance. GSP has never turned down a fight in his life so “if GSP didn’t prevent the fight from happening” is one of the stupidest statements on this board which is saying quite a bit.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
didn't mean it that way
I meant if GSP doesn’t prevent the fight from happening by laying on top of diaz the whole time…sorry if it was unclear
Just Do It
-Nike
Diaz is no threat to GSP. Diaz is no threat even to Fitch.
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Mar 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Or you could say if Diaz doesn’t prevent the fight from happening by not standing back up or getting taken down in the first place. ja, don’t take it personally, you’re entitled to you opinion just as I am to mine.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
How can he be . . . .
A P4Per?? A guy that wont stand and trade (which to me is the main part of fighting, you know, when fisits are put to face, you know, fighting . . .) And he wont finish a guy, doesnt have the knowlede to just go for a choke which cant be untapped out of with a back being showed to him ever 2 minutes AND at 185 he’ll get smashed by Vitor, Hendo, Wandi, Franklin, not to mention Ando, how will he be P4P then with 2-3 losses in a row, cant wait til hes forced to fight, little b*tch. HARDY HARDY HARDY!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
P4P has nothing to do with him moving to MW and losing.
You suck at life.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Moving up to MW
Adam, I beg to differ. I think GSP does quite well at middleweight. In fact, I would like to see that happen too. I think he takes out Vitor, Hendo and Wand in fact. Anderson Silva however, would demolish GSP. He’s just too big and too technical of a fighter for GSP to handle at this point in his career.
The P4P list is a joke. There are so many variables and so few people to prove it. No fighter starts at lightweight and moves up consistantly through each division, so there will always be a debate. GSP, BJ, Silva, Fedor, Machida are all good candidates, but it’s too debatable. Let’s stop arguing about a P4P list as each nuthugger will jump behind their fighter and the arguements will never end.
LOL
gsp is already fighting mw’s. alves, fitch and even hardy where alot bigger than gsp and all walk around over 210 lbs. gsp is just more defined, more ripped.
bigger lol@ the newfound hardy fans (aka gsp haters) who are so impressed with him and his “gutsy” performance. he lost every second of every minute of every round. the same fans were praising Jon Fitch after his loss to gsp for putting on such a “gritty”, “heroic”, performance and had newfound respect for fitch.
look at fitch now! nobody can stand him. everyone wants him to lose. give it time. hardy will have a couple more split decisions to the likes of carlos condit and chris lytle and people will be bagging on him.
Gsp believes his stand up is superior 2 Dan hardy but it was 2 much of a risk 2 stand with him!
by d*locc on Mar 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He says . . . .
That or the opposite in every fight dude, wake up, whatever he has to say to be on the ground with someone, was BJ, kos, or Serras stand up so good that GSP had togo down, no he says he wants to beat them where thay are there best on the ground, BS dude. Beat Hardy where hes the best, feet.
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
by ( (Adam G) ) on Mar 28, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
why take the chance?
he is a better striker than hardy in my opinion but still why take the chance – so what if its entertainment – whatever it takes to win!!!!
if people get yapping about it not being entertaining then MMA will never be taken as a serious sport – is every football team who dominates exciting – hell no! but exciting is when anything can happen which is what you dont want if you are the better team, fighter etc!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you know he is the better striker? they didn’t trade
GSP is the better grappler
by TheBiggertheyare... on Mar 28, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
For the . . .
It would be for the fans of the sport, not for the show of it, imagine if Anderson stopped standing.
"Look Eye! Must Always Look Eye!!"
why would he stop standing?
He’s the best at it! …GSP is the best to take people down…
Fans of the sport like and appreciate both standing and the ground.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
We get it GSP
You’re talented enough to prevent anyone from being able to fight you. But whats next? dana even said in the press conference that people were blowing up his twitter saying how boring gsp was. he can’t do this forever.
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
yea, he loses fans all the time
I used to be a fan, all my friends used to be fans but now we’re on the fence. It’s hard to root for the guy because he’s a great fighter and a great athlete but he doesn’t use it to his full potential and it’s very frustrating to watch.
Just Do It
-Nike
HaHa
You’re on the fence and out of the closet.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
i agree witht everything jay says
gsp is not boring and the fact that he kept a grown man from doing NOTHING to him is amazing. hardy trained his ass off for this fight, and GSP allowed him to do NOTHING. hardy didnt win a second..i cant rmemeber what the judges scores were but i think a few judges gave 2-3 10-8 rounds.
in my opinion that is awesome and people who just want to see people stand and bang should seriously go watch boxing, or bar fights or something stupid like that….
and on top of that Hardy was basically submiited twice
any other person in the division would have tapped there. hardy really is a tough crazy bastard
i seriously think GSP could have broken his arm if he wanted to..but a classy guy like georges doesnt want to break someones arms, esp when he knows he is winning the fight hands down anyways and can do what he wants to hardy
I like gsp's strategy
I like how bad he wants to win and i respect his gameplan. what i don’t like is his refusal to test himself with harder opponents. you’re the best wrestler in the sport and you keep fight strikers with no ground. I would love to see him fight sonnen! but there’s just nothing left at MW for him.
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Maia would get knocked out.
That fight wouldn’t go to the ground at all.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
The fight would not go to the ground. GSP would slap the shit out of Maia.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Let's see
Maybe ask Hieron, Sherk, Hughes, Serra (knees to the side) about this? I’d add BJ to this list but he saw the writting on the wall and didn’t want to get KO’d and shit his pants so he just quit
3CPOman
stupid comment. if BJ and Georges entered the ring at the SAME weight, georges would be thrown around like his pre-teen fan base at a britney spears concert.
by Coach's Corner on Mar 28, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ can't wrestle worth a shit. He would never throw GSP around, even if he weighed more than GSP.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
not KO but maybe TKO
i think gsp would destroy him on the feet and wouldnt at all be suprised if GSP bettered him on the ground – he was active as fuck last nite!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Fighters with no ground?? Hardy (BJJ brownbelt under Eddie Bravo), BJ (BJJ blackbelt), Alves (BJJ blackbelt), Fitch (NCAA div1 wrestler, BJJ blackbelt), Kos (NCAA div1 wrestler, not sure on BJJ belt), Matt Serra (BJJ blackbelt). Now that I look at those guys, I agree, they have no ground game???
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
i was talking about the last 2
hardy and alves, and yes comparatively they have no ground, if he wants to be a groud fighter than test himself against ground fighters, but no one at ww is good enough. Maia, sonnen, i always say silva but that wouldn’t be a ground fight for all 5
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP needs better COMPETITION!
He needs to struggle to get a Take down…. he needs to defend himself… need to eat some punches.. have some heart and fight back…
He just TOO GOOD for the 170s now! He can do whatever he want and that shouldn’t be the case.
agreed
it bothers me that’s he’s content at 170, what happened to all that set the bar very high stuff he talked about
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
You guys are pissed that he's too good for his weight class now? Man, all the weirdos are out today.
It’s GSP’s fault he’s too good?
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
it's his fault if he doesn't challenge himself
hardy touched him once, he was never close to any danger, how much more comfortable does fighting need to get for him to want to test himself? if he wants to stay at 170 and and win 10 more fights in a row by decision he can he’s skilled enogh. but no one will call him best P4P. it’s choice if he wants to chase glory or not
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
When is Fedor (I’m a fan by the way) going to test himself by going to LHW. The skill and speed at LHW is wayyyyy better than at HW. I guess we can’t call him best P4P either.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
shit i'd just be happy to see fedor fight someone good HW that arlosvski fight was great but rodgers? werdum? c'mon fedor you're number 1, you should be fight top5 at least
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you just say
He could fight 10 more times and totally clear out his entire division, but no one would consider him P4P?
Why is it that no one understands what P4P means, but they all like to say it?
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
because of AS
anderson is doing the same thing in MW and is doing it more convincingly. Right now AS is P4P in a majority of peoples eyes. the only way for gsp to be considered best is to beat him. AS wouldn’t move down, he doesn’t need to. he’s number one. Gsp will forever be canada little silver metal ..
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
canada little silver metal...
or best WW of all time, or best wrestler in MMA… or the more complete fighter in the sport.
Depends how you see it.
obviosly best WW of all time
but thats all he gets, not the best wrestler in mma just the best ww wrestler, and that’s all we’ll ever know cause he wont test himself
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the best wrestler in all of MMA.
Moving up has nothing to do with it.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
this is true
i would now like to see him move up though because hes too good for any welterweight out there! would be interesting to see if he can still out class and out strength ppl in the MW divison!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
there is no way you can say he's a better wrestler than anyone outside of WW if he doen't fight outside of WW
there is no way to compare, too many variables, opponent style opponent gameplan, opponent everything. the only way to compare fighters skills is to let them fight
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way to compare GSP's wrestling to a HW wrestler is to let them fight?
Or any weight class above WW? No. Dude you compare what GSP does with his wrestling to what other people do with their wrestling. I’m obviously not saying GSP could outwrestle Brock, but his wrestling for MMA is 1000x better. You don’t need them to fight each other to know that.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
how can you say his wrestling is better?
what HW has outwrestled brock? i’m saying there is no way to compare, all he can do is compare himself against the ones that are slose enough in weight like sonnen, but he knows where that road leads if he beats sonnen
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen is close to GSP size?
Wrong. Can Brock take every heavyweight down at will? Can Brock slam the number 2 HW on his head repeatedly? GSP is the best wrestler in MMA. You really don’t know what you are talking about.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
i'm sorry but did you just imply...
gsp has taken every ww down at will? he’s fought a select few in the ufc, mostly which are strikers not even close to every ww, and since when does slamming someone on their head make you the best, is rampage the best lhw?
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you imply that
Hughes, Serra, Fitch, Kos and Alves are strikers only?
He’s fought all the best grapplers in the division and pwned them at the grappling/wrestling. Go away kid, you lose.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
sorry man but i have ta disagree again...
you cant have every1 fight eachother – you have to compare by using stats etc – thats how P4P lists are made!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
of course they cantall fight eachother
stat lists when comparing fighters are so moronically innacurrate
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
because there is no quality of opponent stat
if gsp gets a takedown against hardy it counts just the same as edgar getting a takedown against bj, but they are two way different things
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he did try to stay in guard, but everytime Hardy threw up a triangle, GSP chucked him to the side and ended up in side-control. You don’t see someone accidentally end up in side-control too often.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
hardy seems to slip out the back a lot when gsp passed guard ...
maybe jackson jut wanting gsp to stay in half guard doing less work but being content hardy would get out, or else he wanted gsp to get a chance to stand and posture to reign down strikes!?
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
that's jackson for ya
win over finish
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
obviously - hes his trainer
he doesnt care if GSP finished or is exciting – he just wants his fighter to win 1st and foremost so he is right to be carefull and maximise the chance of GSP winning! no?
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
absolutley
jacksons fighters definatley win, and i understand it from a coaching stand point but he can’t look confused when people call him boring if he’s not trying to make it exciting. If he’s comftable being known as a boring fighter then he should stay the course, he probably wont lose for a very long time. but with no risk come no reward.
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
He did a mistake in the 2nd round i think...
And allow Hardy to get on top of him for a moment… i guess thats why.
hardy seems to slip out the back a lot when gsp passed guard ...
maybe jackson jut wanting gsp to stay in half guard doing less work but being content hardy would get out, or else he wanted gsp to get a chance to stand and posture to reign down strikes!?
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP Boring? Come on guys, get real!
GSP is exactly the opposite. He’s constantly working for better positions, sub attempts or effective strikes when needed.
I laugh at everyone that says he’s a Lay N Prayer. Are these the same guys that are going to bitch about a striker never attempting to take it to the ground?
Strikers never get bagged on for keeping it standing, so why should GSP get bagged on for taking it to the ground where he clearly can outmatch his opponent?
Fitch, now that guy is boring. Yes he’s a great fighter and tough as hell, but he does lay and pray.
Rumour is Semtex vs GSP if Daley gets past Kos. Problem is Daley’s ground game is garbage and it will end up with the same result. GSP by total domination and the haters will bash away unless GSP stops him.
I really think all these guys don't like MMA.
They like sloppy slugging.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Gsp shouldn't be apologizing to anyone...
Unlike Fitch, he did actually try to finish this fight quite a few times, and the reason he didn’t finish the fight is pretty much because of how insane Dan Hardy is. I almost guarantee any other fighter in that division would’ve tapped eventually. And yeah, boring? He’s far from it, best takedowns in the UFC. A few other musings:
He should fight winner of Daley vs Koscheck
He would beat Anderson silva
Fitch doesnt deserve a shot until he proves something
Dan Hardy is one of the toughest dudes out there and should fight Alves or Fitch next.
Nate Diaz looked like his brother
by theworldismine on Mar 28, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
would love to see alves vs hardy
that would be a fun match-up and how about fitch vs diaz, maybe diaz could make him pay for his lay and pray technique with a sub
Agreed
you should be match making lol cuz that would be two sick fights. Fitch gets put to sleep in a triangle choke
by theworldismine on Mar 28, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Diaz doesn’t do well against strong wrestlers. Fitch would kill him, and I wouldn’t be suprised if Fitch actually ended that fight.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Your basing that
on his record at 155 though. You are right, but he is bigger now, and he can submit wrestlers. I thought Melvin Guillard was gunna beat Nate.
by theworldismine on Mar 28, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate Diaz looked exactly like his brother. I liked that.
He looks a thousand times better at WW. I’m excited to see his next fight.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Yeah man I was very pleased
The punches in bunches are sick ha, and this is the first time we’ve seen Nate utilize his standup to beat an opponent in a long time
by theworldismine on Mar 28, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate looked superb
Cesar needs to talk him out of going back to 155, he proved last night that 170 is the perfect division for him. He showed much better power and cardio than usual and outboxed the striker who came in well overweight with ease. Outstanding performance, that’s the Nate that I want to see more of.
Fitch: (On a potential fight with Kos) "That will only happen in our gym with the doors locked"
Dana: "That's going to sell a lot of tickets"
by David W-S on Mar 28, 2010 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think this was gsp's worst fight 2 date!
& the alves fight is 2nd but I know he got hurt during that fight. Did any1 honestly enjoy that fight yesterday? I hope sum1 knocks the old gsp back in2 him.
by d*locc on Mar 28, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I enjoyed it.
Non-fans and haters didn’t. I would get sick of watching someone I don’t like demolish people too. If you found that fight boring it is because Dan Hardy should have never been in this fight. He isn’t good enough to compete with Fitch let alone GSP.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
i cant say it was highly enjoyable but..
only because you always knew who was going to win – in saying this i liked seeing GSP break Hardy’s spirit and like GSP activity on the ground – it ws a clinic
i was wanting daley to fight GSP since i think hes a bigger hitter than hardy but after seeing this match all i want from GSP is to move up or fight a classy grappler because hes just too good for any1 else
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not that I don't like him I don't like wut he duz.
It was just boring as all hell. & it’s really ok with U jay if he duz this for the rest of his career?
by d*locc on Mar 28, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No, I wasn't impressed either. But I wasn't bored.
He was always moving and trying to set shit up. He didn’t put his head down on his chest and pray for the bell like Fitch does. I always find GSP exciting.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
GSP HATERS.....ARE IDIOTS!!!!!!
Stand and fight,stand and fight…..STFU!!!!! GSP is a very intelligent fighter…it’s not his fault his opponents don’t have a well rounded game. I think they should improve their WRESTLING or maybe a little TAKEDOWN DEFENCE!!! STUPID BASTARDS!!! Until someone has enough SKILL to prevent those TAKEDOWNS they will all get worked over. GSP can stand and bang (Hughes,Fitch…toyed with Serra)…but he sees his opponents weakness and exploits it. BJ,Alves,Serra,Kos,Fitch and Hardy…all need to go back to class,CAUSE GSP JUST SCHOOLED THEIR ASS. All those that don’t see the amasing skill that St.Pierre has,should stick to watching K-1 cause they shit about MMA. WAR GSP!!!
You know..
if this was a wrestling match then it would probably be enjoyable. But its not a wrestling match and I could really care if GSP has good takedowns. The best fighters on the planet finish fights and GSP doesn’t do that..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
shit talk...
the best fighters are the 1s who clean out there weight division!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Gilbert Yvel finishes all his fights, he must be the best.
You never make any sense BA.
BJ must suck as well since his fights go to decision more often than GSP’s.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Another thing
GSP is by the most respectable, classy UFC fighter; he dominated Hardy, but Hardy would not give up, and GSP gave him a lot of respect, saying he was tough and that they would fight again. He could have laughed at him and said have a nice day, but instead they both congratulated each other and exited the cage on good, maybe even friendly terms. That was really nice to see.
by theworldismine on Mar 28, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
I'll..
let him off the hook for not finishing if you all stop calling him the best fighter on the planet and pound for pound the best..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
hes not...
Anderson is, but GSP is a class act all the same!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
as far as attitude and professionalism in the gsp is at the top with machida
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh...
Fedor or BJ Penn is..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
BJ has a worst finish ratio than GSP…you make zero sense.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
?
I guess if you watched MMA pre-TUF you’d know that BJ held the welterweight title..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
Dude, you’re not making sense. You said GSP can’t be P4P because he doesn’t finish, yet BJ can even though he has a worst finish ratio. I watched well before TUF as well. That’s alway your answer, you call people Noobs. You have no idea what the hell you’re talking about and that’s the only ‘burn’ your dumb ass can come up with.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Most people who say shit like that are the same people who didn't watch before TUF.
MM_eh, you’re too good for this kid.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
It’s just frustrating cause I’ve had it out with BA before and he can actually be intelligent. It seems that whenever GSP or BJ fight it brings out the scumbags for some reason. I hate this site after a big event…who the hell are half these people?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I know what you mean.
People don’t like GSP and want him to fail so badly that they hope he doesn’t finish the fight, just so they can say it was boring. He did finish the fight a couple times, Hardy just refused to play along. GSP won’t break someones arm and Dan Hardy isn’t getting knocked out so it had to be a decision. One of the most dominant title defenses in a long time.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
what's ur point????
did u forget…he also got it taken from him in his first defence. By the man that he beat for the belt.
by KRAZYDRIVER14 on Mar 28, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me? BJ Penn has gone to decision 6 times compared to GSP’s 7. Also their finish ratio are about equal. Penn at 40% KO/TKO and 40% submissions compared to GSP’s 35% KO/TKO and 25% submissions. Do some reseach and get your fact straight the next time otherwise it’ll make you look like an idiot.
by Tiger_Uppercut! on Mar 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You my friend, are the one who’s make zero sense. Penn has a better finish ratio than GSP!
by Tiger_Uppercut! on Mar 28, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Penn has finished 12 of his 21 matches (57%) while GSP has finish 14 or his 22 matches (64%). I’m not a mathematician, but I think 64 is a bigger number than 57…but I’ll get back to you on that one.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Yeah but if you’re going to talk about “finishing fights” as in victories, you can only factor in the wins.
by Tiger_Uppercut! on Mar 28, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you can only factor in wins. I can do what I want. That’s like saying a guy with 1 win by hail marry knockout and 22 loses has a better finishing record than anybody.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
That’s not even the same thing! You stated the case that Penn has a worse finish ratio than GSP not total winning percentage. Finish ratio: as in KO’s, TKO’s, and submissions my friend.
by Tiger_Uppercut! on Mar 28, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Tiger you don't know what you are talking about.
It doesn’t matter that BJ finishes a higher percentage of his WINS. It’s total fights. BJ doesn’t even win 75% of his fights but you are going to tell people he has an 80% finishing ratio?
Get a clue.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
What level math do you have?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
He's saying the percentage of his wins that are stoppages.
It’s the only stat where BJ is better than GSP. It isn’t a real stat.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Clearly not a good stat as I illustrated above. A guy who is 1-22 with one KO has a better ‘finish ratio’ (100%) than both GSP and BJ. Therefore I think including the losses says a lot more. But I guess you can use stats to say whatever you want.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
u cant be serious?
BJ ranked higher on your p4p list than andy AND gsp?
Mines: Silva
GSP/Fedor
BJ
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
i still can’t help but kinda wonder about fedor though, at least right now, and beating werdum isn’t going to help
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
SO IF....
Werdum…by chance actually beats FEDOR. Does that means Werdum is the P4P champ. HELL NO……FEDOR needs to join the big leagues and face the real compatition and quit being a BUMFIGHTER.LOL
by KRAZYDRIVER14 on Mar 28, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How...
many belts in how many different weightclasses has GSP won? How many different weights has GSP fought at…
YEP..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
how many belts at diff weight classes has Anderson and Fedor won?
so what BJ became welterweight champ and lightweight champ -— he cant now!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
That’s a pretty big accomplishment being a belt holder in two different weightclasses…you should know…Mr. Couture..
Greasy St.Pierre, the last Outsider.
Anderson Silva reign= reaping the benefits of a very weak UFC MW division for the past 3 years.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
Why do you always assume people giving praise to GSP is against BJ. Yes he was a belt holder in two divisions. The LW is more impressive for him because the competition is better in the LW division now then it was in the WW division when he won the title there.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
clearly...
its massive accomplishment but just because he did it doesnt make him higher p4p ranked than some1 because he WAS the best welterweight ages ago – at the present day GSP is…
plus GSP beat BJ twice when they fought at the same weight although it was GSPs weight class – this should still put GSP ahead of BJ in the p4p ranks!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus he couldn't defend the belt
YOu’re only a true champ after you defend the belt. BJ got lucky once when the WW division sucked, he got as lucky as Serra did.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Do you think Hardy's arms are hurting today jay?
I still can’t believe what I saw last night.
"He's in trouble, I'm telling you right now."
- UFC Welterweight Champion George St. Pierre on Dan Hardy's hopes.
I think he'll be fine.
GSP really should have snapped it. He needs to get some of that killer instinct into him. This isn’t a sport it is a fight, he needs to want to kill someone IMO.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
na come on it is a sport...
if he turned into a killer then he wouldnt be as calculated as he is Jay, and would probably turn into some1 who just swings for fences"!
but yea it would be nice to see GSP want to destroy some1 but its hard to be smart and a killer…
its just testament to GSPs classiness!"
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a fight man!
When I fought I new that if I didn’t hurt my opponent he was sure as hell gonna try and hurt me. It’s the hurt business, not a freakin tickle fest.
Calu
With all his strenght he did not finnish it?
I think you are right. He doesn’t have the killer instinct. That’s the only explanation that makes any sense.
"He's in trouble, I'm telling you right now."
- UFC Welterweight Champion George St. Pierre on Dan Hardy's hopes.
I actually don’t mind that he didn’t break his elbow, shoulder or knee/ankle. I don’t think he hated Dan and didn’t want to lay him up for a year in recovery or end his career. These guys are sportsman and really don’t like hurting people for the most part. It’s like in wrestling, most guys avoid using a knee-dive takedown cause they don’t want to wreck another wrestler’s career even though it’s as open as a single.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Double edged sword
If he would have broke his arm the boohooers would come out in droves and ask, “why did he have to break his arm? Do you have no control?”
I kind of wished he did now just so not so many haters would be on here. I like Hardy and I’m glad he won’t be layed-up for a year, but these haters are rediculous.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
yea i know crazyyyy
Dan has big balls! but he still got whipped!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hold on there Jay....
Did you just say BJ was as lucky as Serra?? I think BJ can beat any WW other than GSP.
no...
but it takes Fedor from top spot is all!!
because anything can happen in 1 night and Werdum hasnt been a top fighter ever!
"This is no haul for Jón Páll" - Jón Páll Sigmarsson (R.I.P.)
by Randy for Couture on Mar 28, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
Finish Theory
Hardy was greased! That’s why George couldn’t finish or take his back for long. Too many fish and chips before his fight made him all slimy. HA
GSP did slip right off his back every time. I'm calling grease as well.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
GSP!!!
BUt in hardy’s defense he did better then bj Penn. I dont think he will bitch and make an excuse. Hardy also took less punishment then alves and fitch the bitch. GSP is not afraid to stand with anybody. Whats wrong with you people? Why not dominate your opponent where you know you can? The GSP hate needs to stop. Theres a sport called boxing for you guys that just like striking. GSP actually works on the ground and mentally breaks his opponents. Unlike rashad Evans who for some weird reason recieved so much praise for his “dominant performance” over thiago and never damaged him.
Heres the thing i dont get.. Everyone this morning is a new dan hardy fan and more and more are hating on fitch.. go back and watch the gsp vs. fitch fight and tell me that guy doesnt have heart. he got pounded on for 5 rounds and was still in gsps face till the very end. Atleast fitch tried to mount some offense in that fight instead of just being a human takedown bag. It seems to me like dana white just does not like fitch.
Possibly
Fitch feels like he and Kos are the greatest thing since sliced bread and no one else should get a shot at GSP besides them. Even though GSP handed both of them their asses on a platter. I can see if he totally revamped his style and thought this new style was GSP Kryptonite but nothing has changed since the last time he was pummeled. It’s not a matter heart, it’s a matter of reality
This is why Fedor is a legend
and gsp is just great
Fedor will fight you wherever, because he isn’t scared of anything
by TheBiggertheyare... on Mar 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Real
The truth, like fighting, is sometimes just plain, boring and ugly. The important thing is coming out on top. Georges should try focusing on breathing techniques before a fight, as this helps calm my nerves. I also like to yell a battle cry to harden my nerves. You can tell when you your explosive technique is right because you can feel the energy or vibration travel right through from your feet all through your joints and through your hands. Be relaxed and explode like some1 touched u with a hot spoon. The shock should even be felt at the back of your head. GSP let Hardy off and didn’t take Hardy’s arm home with him, then was honourable enough to say he needed to correct his JJ technique. True Champ
by WayofTheWarrior on Mar 28, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
'then was honourable enough to say he needed to correct his JJ technique. '
I meant instead of showing hardy up and saying I let u off, he blamed his own technique. Thats what I call a true warrior. I love BJ for his raw talent, but GSP has a maturity that exceeds him. BJ still my number 1 tho
by WayofTheWarrior on Mar 28, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That is not what impressed me
I like that after the fight was over he told Dan you did a hell of alot better than i did in my first title shot. George is all class for sure.
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
ALL CLASS
NO BALLS, well more balls than anyone who’s not a cage fighter or in the marines, but less ball than any other cage fighter
by justfightalready on Mar 28, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well im not going to say anymore on the fight
But i wonder who he will fight next and how long will they have him wait to fight again . I hope its not another year that would suck for his fans and the other ww’s
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
Man im tired of all this Bs "he let him go because he is nice!!" talk
GSP didn’t finish Hardy because he COULDN’T
by TheBiggertheyare... on Mar 28, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
gsp performance and also the fedor coment
the only reson gsp couldnt finish the fight was because hed put hardy in the armbar and hardy whouldnt tap and gsp didnt wana break his arm and the fedor coment come on hes not even in the best orginization fedor is a pupet thats all he is and will not fight the best i mean yea he fogh cro cop couldnt finsih cro cop big nog which yea i understand why he couldnt finish him cause he was hard to finish at the time but not finish renato babalu come on whats that fedor will be a legend but will not have my respect and no one will no who he is only us hardcore fans most people just say whats so great about that fat guy lesnar will defeat fedor and finish fedor nd hell i think mir junior dos santos cain carwin will defeat fedor and gsp will be a legend and recognized hes just gotta you know start standing more hes got a great stand up i mean serra just fluked it but he has amazing stand up who agrees ????
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