UFC rankings/MMA rankings featured in USA Today for March 2010
by Jesse Holland on Mar 25, 2010 4:25 PM EDT
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Our partners in crime over at BloodyElbow.com have once again published their divisional rankings for mixed martial arts in the nation’s largest daily newspaper, USA Today, for the month of March 2010.
For those of you unfamiliar with the process, here’s how it works:
"The rankings, which will offer a definitive perspective of top MMA fighters across all weight-classes, will be released monthly and published in the Sports section of USA TODAY, online at USATODAY.com and on SB Nation’s MMA commentary and community blog, BloodyElbow.com … The USA TODAY/SB Nation Consensus MMA Rankings are compiled each month by Nate Wilcox and Richard Wade of BloodyElbow.com. The rankings utilize each of the top MMA rankings from multiple unique sources. A weighted-formula is applied to normalize and distill the various rankings into one consensus ranking per weight class."
To check out the latest USAT/SBN rankings click here. We’ve also listed their top 10 in each class after the jump for your convenience.
What do you think? Share your ranking rants in the comments section below.
Heavyweight:
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Frank Mir
4. Cain Velasquez
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
6. Shane Carwin
7. Junior Dos Santos
8. Brett Rogers
9. Alistair Overeem
10. Andrei Arlovski
Light Heavyweight:
1. Lyoto Machida
2. Mauricio Rua
3. Rashad Evans
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Forrest Griffin
6. Anderson Silva
7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
9. Thiago Silva
10. Dan Henderson
Middleweight:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Chael Sonnen
4. Vitor Belfort
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Demian Maia
7. Jake Shields
8. Yushin Okami
9. Robbie Lawler
10. Jorge Santiago
Welterweight:
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Paulo Thiago
6. Dan Hardy
7. Nick Diaz
8. Matt Hughes
9. Paul Daley
10. Martin Kampmann
Lightweight:
1. B.J. Penn
2. Shinya Aoki
3. Eddie Alvarez
4. Kenny Florian
5. Gray Maynard
6. Tatsuya Kawajiri
7. Frank Edgar
8. Gilbert Melendez
9. Sean Sherk
10. Diego Sanchez
Featherweight:
1. Jose Aldo
2. Mike Brown
3. Urijah Faber
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Bibiano Fernandes
6. Michihiro Omigawa
7. Marlon Sandro
8. Manny Gamburyan
9. Masanori Kanehara
10. Rafael Assuncao
Bantamweight:
1. Dominick Cruz
2. Brian Bowles
3. Joseph Benavidez
4. Miguel Torres
5. Masakatsu Ueda
6. Scott Jorgensen
7. Takeya Mizugaki
8. Rani Yaya
9. Damacio Page
10. Wagnney Fabiano
Of course, nothing brings MMA fans closer together than a list of divisional rankings. Let’s hear it: Who belongs and who doesn’t? And be sure to say why. "He sucks" is not a valid argument.
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Andreson Silva still ranked below Forrest?????
MMA Mania’s consensus rankings were better!!!!
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
LOL
I was just about to post that. You beat me to it!
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
the heavyweights one is the same as mine
in that poll. I tried telling everyone Werdum should not be top ten, he’s not.
'How's taste my pee pee pee?'
Here they are
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/3/9/1365288/results-mmamanias-consensus-mma
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
by PHISH NATION on Mar 25, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Even there...
Anderson should be ahead of Rampage and Rashad cause he’s beatin guys they’ve fought way easier. Both with Forrest and Hendo plus Randy shouldn’t be ranked above Jones when he did to Vera what Couture couldn’t.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson shouldn’t be infront of Rampage and Rashad at all he’s only fought at LHW 2 times. Having Brock Lesnar at #2 in the world makes me throw up.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
But definitely before Forrest LOL
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
The reason Silva is ranked lower is because some of the sites don't rank Silva
At LHW dropping his total ranking. Guys that fight in two different weight classes will be lower in one if not both depending on were the site ranks him. Everybody has Silva ranked in MW but there are sites that the Consensus uses that don’t have him rated at LHW dropping his status there.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yeah it's flawed for the guys that fight in two weight divisions
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
By that...
The entire system fails if the equation used to make the rankings doesn’t account for some aspects of the real world.
Also, the system doesn’t work because it is based on information provided by people who are trying to appease the UFC so they can keep their press creditials. Flawed.
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No striker it's taken from over 20+ sites including Sherdog who you may not no doesn't have a great relation with the UFC
It’s the MMA media consensus from around the world. You have your opinions and thats fine striker but because you don’t agree with them doesn’t change anything.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I know how and average works...
But a poll is only as good as the people you are polling. If you take a poll about a political topic and are standing outside the Republican National headquarters you may get different results then if you are standing somewhere else.
“The rankings utilize each of the top MMA rankings from multiple unique sources. A weighted-formula is applied to normalize and distill the various rankings into one consensus ranking per weight class.”
So basically, Sherdog (who doesn’t want to piss off the UFC) may rank Brock #2…okay but BrockLesnarfans.com ranks him #1, them some other sight ranks him #6, and then the Minnesota Mixed MArtial Arts society ranks him #2. Basically you have an average ranking of 2.5. 3 of those sites probably want to give Brock a good ranking. Soooo.. who are these “media sources from around the world” and how are they “weighted”? Who made up this formula?
Sorry, it is not truly scientific. No way can you prove that.
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None of it scientific.
I don’t think rankings can be ever, unless everyone fights everyone in one promotion.
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I agree...
It’s totally just opinion…NOT based in any sort of fact or truth.
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Like I said Striker your sig is going to look good my friend this summer
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
And yours...
And you sig may look like something I photoshop up of Brock, three crackheads, and a midget porn. Brock has no chance of sweeping all three of his next fights. Mir/Carwin, Cain and JDS….good luck with that. Fedor would be lucky to sweep that.
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I'm betting on it Striker.
After each Brock fight one of us gets a sig and picture from the other that we have to use for one month as normal. I know how much you love Brock so I’ll be nice and give you a quality pictre of him. Your sig will state your man crush on Brock LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
And I am thinking something...
And I am thinking something involving anal rape Mir for your sig/pic.
It won’t be pleasant…and you only have yourself to blame.
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Cool you want to play that way I'm game
Nothing that will get me trouble from mania though Striker
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Deal...
on my sig, too. If it’s Mir in the first fight, i will likely have “Bockmanlove” sig for a month.
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I'll give you a hint it will be something like
Brock is the most skilled and sexiest MMA fighter ever …
Something like that anyway
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
i been saying that to puck since this whole debacle started
Hence the creation of ABM. You must’ve gotten him pretty fired up cause he didn’t pic sig me!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 25, 2010 6:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Striker made a challenge and I excepted
For Brocks next three fights I’m betting a sig and picture bet
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Never…I mean NEEEVEER bet sigs with worby. The consequences if you lose can be extreme…
Sorry, boys, he's taken. Meow.
yeah worby got you good on this one...
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
scared maybe the best word to explain it worby...
anyweiz, the whole ABM crew would be more than glad to accept any challenges this site will ever throw…there’s jst no way in hell brock sweeps those..
by candyce (formerly known as gaara) on Mar 25, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Scared? I bet on Mir when everyone thought it was a fluke he beat NOG.
I hear the same guys here saying that Kongo would do this and that to him because Kongo put up a good fight against Cain? Mir is much more proven than Cain and it showed, guys like Brock come around only so often in any sport, trying to say he has no chance in hell in winning all three is naive. Anyone can lose but out of anybody beating those three I would say Brock has the best chance.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
candyce is correct
Brock cannot do it! ABM! Whoop whoop!
Below: you’re welcome freenow. Knew I made sense mang.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 26, 2010 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Works better if fights everyone in one promotion,
or the UFC cross promotes so that we are able to have the best fighting the best. It would be amazing if they could get some of their fighters to represent in a K1 Dynamite contest. Yes I know UFC fans, they are the biggest , the best , the greatest and the centre of the universe so they don’t need to. Lame reason or excuse, I do not see a sportsman of the year award ever going to an MMA fighter, if the UFC only allows its fighters to fight UFC fighters and not compete against the best in others orgs.
And vise versa
Fact is I doubt the uFC will ever co promote or send it’s fighters to another organizations event. They got screwed when they made the deal with Pride.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
makes sense.
thx
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
makes sense?
The system makes sense or the fact that it’s flawed makes sense?
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Pucks comment about Anderson makes sense.
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
didn't anderson move up in lhw rankings since last month?
or am i misremembering? this would seem strange since he hasn’t fought since then, but perhaps is explained by puck head’s comment.
Cain and Junior have the best records in the UFC’s HW division and is ahead of Lesnar and Mir.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
No they shouldn't Roberto
Neither has beat a higgher ranked opponent than Lesnar has and neither can get ahead of Mir unless he loses becasue he’s been ranked higher before. Second how can someone be ranked higher than the champion? They can’t. It’s fine that you think they might be able to beat either one but they can’t be ranked higher until they beat at least a higher ranked fighter.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
listan i don’t think anything, that’s how you make a ranking. being champ don’t mean shit it’s only a belt and a title.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
who has Lesnar beat that’s higher ranked? nobody.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Lesnar beat Mir who was ranked #3 in the world after beating NOG who was #2 in the world at the time
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Mir wasn’t ranked #3 in the world. Because these mma sites and newspapers says he was or what? he’s gone 5-3 in the last 4 years.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Thats what every fighter in the UFC fights for Roberto
You ask them if they would rather be rated higher or have the UFC belt every one would pick the belt. ratings are based on opinions the belt has the honor.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
i have to say that if your the champ your rating should sky rocket along with it
but then why is fedor ranked higher? dont get me wrong i think fedor is number one but the 2 arguments dont seem to go together…
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
**ranking not rating
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, puck but...
The title isn’t real. The UFC doesn’t work like the olympics where there is a large tourney that everyone fights in and then an ultimate championship is won through defeating a large group of people. There is no playoffs. There is no round robin.
Brock only beat Mir (Randy wasn’t really the champ anymore…only on paper according to the UFC).
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The title will be fought for again Striker
And the proof will come out. Are you getting worried yet that your going to have a Brock sig and pick LOL. Rankings change after every event they are not written in stone.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
But they are written...
And for people who don’t think for themselves, they take it at face value. Or after enough times something is written it changes peoples perception.
I am fully ready to go on the Sig bet. It is looking like the three matchups we discussed will be: Mir/Carwin winner (oddly the weak link), Cain, and JDS. I don’t think there is a fighter alive that would sweep all three (not even Fedor)…certainly not Brock. You may have me on the first fight…although maybe not. And if Brock does sweep all three I will fully acknowledge that Brock is the best in the UFC, maybe the world….but I wouldn’t count on it.
I am going to really outdo myself and come up with something TWISTED for your sig and pic.
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Welcome to the real world striker
I don’t agree with some of the rankings either but I’m not going to cry over it. The proof will come out as far as any of the guys in the UFC are concerned down the road as eventually the champion will have to fight the best on whoever you or me think it is. But honestly the only champion I see losing his belt is possibly Machida any time this year anyway. And guess what you could be right Brock could get caught with a punch and be KO with these guys power and they will be rated higher than Brock after that happens. Anything can happen and anybody can lose at anytime including GSP against Hardy this weekend, I wouldn’t bet on it though.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Who's crying?
I am merely stating that they are completely inaccurate and debating it. Welcome to the internet, Puck.
Of course, anybody could lose at anytime (re: Serra vs GSP) but you won’t see me ranking Serra over GSP either. One fight does not make a true champion or a domination of a division. the only one I see losing their belt this year is Brock. After Shogun, who is there in LHW that will do it?
Too bad, this “consensus” is nothing more than an average of 20 other opinions and is not based on real performances and opponents.
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Brock will have to prove for sure
But at least he will be trying to prove his ranking, better than a fighter that has to prove nothing because he already #1.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Except....
Fedor has proved his ranking for years…against anybody in front of him. It will likely be forever unmatched.
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That was then this is now
05 is old news, what top fighter has he beat that is current now?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Well...
He absolutely SCHOOLED 3 of the guys in the list above that you seem to think is so great. Not to mention will be fighting a 4th in 2010.
Does that work?
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Thats not the point Striker
If Brock was fighting the guys Fedor was right now you would be calling bloody murder on his #2 ranking. But becasue it’s your beloved Fedor it’s OK? I understand your kind striker.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
In the name of the Fedor, the Vlad and the last emporer, amen.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Oh, so this is about...
you blind hatred for Fedor. Exactly what you accuse me of with Brock.
Has Brock beaten Nog IN HIS PRIME? No. Have Brock beaten Crocop IN HIS PRIME? No. Has BROCK beaten a roided up Coleman IN HIS PRIME? No. Has Brock beaten a roided up Randleman IN HIS PRIME? no. Has Brock beaten a hot prospect like Rogers? No. Has Brock beaten K1 uber god Schilt? No. Has Brock beaten Babalu, Arona, Fujit anad a ton of other stars? NO
Brock has beat Herring, who Fedor whipped worse. An old, ring rusted, undersize Randy, who Very put the screws to. And has a split with Mir.
tell me again why Brock should be ranked higher….LMFAO
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corrections
…your…
…has…
I forgot Arlovski (former champ and still on the list that you love so dearly)
and …Vera…(not Very).
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how long can fedor stay at number 1 without beating a top 5 fighter?
i know that SF dosnt have those fighter for him to fight but i think he ranking should eventually decrease if he isnt fighting top competition…
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Logic flaw...
“Neither (Cain or JDS) has beat a higgher ranked opponent than Lesnar has”
Lesner only has wins over Herring (not on this list), Randy (not on this list in any weight class), and Mir. Let’s talk about Mir. Mir’s last few fights:
Kongo win (not ranked)
Brock loss (no victories against anyone on this list except Mir)
Big Nog win (eight days from the hospital, okaaaay)
Brock win (no victories against anyone on this list except Mir)
Hardonk win (who cares)
Vera loss
So really, Mir’s only meaningful win was against Brock…who is only ranked so high because he also beat Mir. So basically Mir and Brock are only ranked so high because they beat each other, but no one else of merit….how does that work?
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Fact is Striker when he beat NOG the rankings don't take opinions that it was because NOG was sick
And if you seen Cain vs NOG there is less doubt in the merit of the fight so with saying that I understand you hate Brock and your opinions show that Striker so debating with you is pointless becasue your hate on Brock makes your opinion.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
So...
You are saying that it is somehow scientific. If it were scientific, it would have accounted for head to head match ups right? Like Paulo Thiago and Koscheck…which they have reversed. And it would account for weight class switching and have Anderson above Forest…which it doesn’t.
THE FACT is…that the source of this information is from various websites (nobody seems to know which ones) and some sort of WEIGHTED formula is applied to those rankings. However, those ranking from other sites may be decided by the OPINION of one person. Some maybe from a one man operation and some maybe from a larger operation that one reporter writes his OPINION. Again, we don’t know. Maybe those individuals are fans of some fighters. Maybe they are skewing the ranking on purpose (like southern college football writers do, where there is a huge call for a playoff system).
Sorry but the FACT is that this ranking system is NOT scientific and is based on OPINIONS. Not a scientific process from “media sources from around the world” that is somehow weighted correctly. LMAO.
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BE gives the names of all the sites this is pulled from.
And this is opinion. Your argument is opinion (and the minority at that). BUT, there is no scoring system for ranking in combat sports. Because this is a BUSINESS first, and a sport second, DW does not have his best fight each other until they will make him enough money. (see yesterday’s post about Cain and JDS not fighting anytime soon)
There is no way to create a “scientific” process to rank fighters unless you have a round robin tournament once every three months and everyone fights everyone. Tournaments are not sanctioned in most US states and DW is against them. Until something changes, we have opinion.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Rankings are a lot of opinion but really they are in any sport
Any College sport. In the end though the champion is all that matters for bragging rights in any sport.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
So them why are people here pretending that....
So then why are people here pretending that these rankings are somehow scientific?
“The rankings utilize each of the top MMA rankings from multiple unique sources. A weighted-formula is applied to normalize and distill the various rankings into one consensus ranking per weight class.”
Wow, “multiple unique sources”? Or just 20 guys who have write for a website. “A weighted-formula is applied to normalize and distill”…WOW. Does this mean that sources that BE doesn’t agree with get less value? Who is it “weighted” in order to “normalize” and “distill the various rankings”…LMFAO. Sounds scientific to me.
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the fighter ranked at #1 gets 10 points, #1 gets 9….for each ranking. then they are all added up. Any 10 year old could put this together. Hell, in Excel, it would take about 5 minutes.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
#2 gets 9
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I know how averages work.....
And a child could average 20 websites opinions….but how is that a “a weighted-formula” that is “applied to normalize and distill the various rankings…”
LMFAO. Keep trying to pretend these ranking have any level of accuracy. How about a ranking system based completely off wins and losses and they are truly weighted based on the wins and losses of the competition. There would be a cut off so you aren’t counting fights from say… more than 2 years ago. Why is the “consensus” ranking based on the opinions of other websites and not off of a formulaic process from the fighters performances? Why?
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I am not pretending anything, but if you know averages...
you know that anomalies like Overroids at #3 get normalized (to his real #10 or so) with weighted averages and that distilling is just a fancy word for printing.
they are truly weighted based on the wins and losses of the competition
How do you derive the initial ranking of the competition to weight these fighters? I don’t think these rankings hold much water either, but instead of bitching, come up with something better.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I'n not a mathematician...
Hell, I barely spell “mathematician”. I am sure there i some sort of better way to rank them. However, I don;t know what it is. But I can’t tell you how to make sushi, but I can tell you if it tastes good.
If I had time, i think I could come up with some formula that would be more based in fact as opposed to opinion.
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Personally I like just the UFC rankings or just the SF rankings
At least there you might get to see the Consensus #1 against the consensus #2.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Well Phish...
It is time for our monthly Rankings hahaha, j/k. Your work on the last one is greatly appreciated!
by Edgecrusher71 on Mar 25, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Phish rankings/Mania consensus > BE rankings/MMA media consensus
He did an awesome job creating them and it must have taken a lot of time and effort for him to get it sorted. Apart from the occassional stupid ranking e.g. Sexyama as the #1MW we all did a great job picking a realistic top 10 in every division and helped to create a much better set of rankings than what was produced here.
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"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
lol david
your never going to let it go that some of the fighters didnt get 100% #1 rankings,…. good job phish, those rankings were great to see…
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by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson...
Should be 3rd at LHW and Jon Jones should now be in the top 10 if Mousasi is cause what top 10 LHW has he beat?
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Accurate as always...
Anderson below Forest….
Paulo Thiago below Koshceck…
Brock #2….
What a joke…“consensus”
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haha nice one
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
There you go Striker havelock has Brock at #1 five maybe you and havelock
Can make your own ratings and try and give them to SB nation for their Consensus rankings LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
no
they got the lightweight one wrong everything else seems pretty good
How is Carwin before JDS?
juniors opposition was much tougher and they have Gonzaga in common.
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
i was just about to post that
even if this was done before the last jds fight it still wouldnt make sense.
can we please wait to crown carwin until after the mir fight? HE HAS BEATEN NO ONE…
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I get a kick out of rankings and you guys
Mir is easily #3, ahead of both JDS and Cain. He ‘s been around, is a multiple time champion and has recently beaten Nog and Kongo as well as Lesnar. The “nog was hurt” argument doesn’t come into play when talking rankings, wins and losses as well as quality of wins and losses are all that matters!
How Forrest is ahead of Anderson is crazy, Anderson dominated him. Just because he doesn’t fight full time at that weight is also a lame argument!
mmamath is also a dumb part of the equation guys. fighter a beat fighter b easier than fighter c beat fighter a is not an argument.
finally, these lists are subjective and basically pointless! I do however agree with most of the guys on the lists, just not necessarily where they are slotted, mainly Anderson in the LHW.
one more thing
If they were just lists, and not necessarily in that order, just “here are the top 10 guys in each weight class,” I’d probably agree 100% with the lists!
What about Vera
How is he ahead of Vitor and Jones? That makes no sense at all
K1
I like how K1 is listed like it’s a legitimate MMA organization, if they include kick boxing (ANOTHER SPORT!) why don’t they include Boxing and Sambo?
Anderson should be the number one fighter, Fedor has not fought top ten talent in the last 12 months, he should not be eligible for top ten
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by NEWBLOODFIGHTGEAR on Mar 25, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
he hasn't?
Arlovski, Rogers are both in top 10 and Timmy was when he beat him. I didn’t realize that Anderson now fought at HW!
rogers is the only one within 12 months
and he hasnt beaten anyone but aa, he’s only top 10 because the division isnt as deep as the others.
rogers did impress me in the fedor fight tho….
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by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 25, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrible Rankings
No point in saying much more then that they are plain out terrible….better then some rankings ive seen but still bad bad bad!
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
no
they are done by bloody elbow (last time I checked) and as much as I don’t like the douche bags that run that site, my guess is they watch more than a few events, and have a decent site!
im not disagreeing that a few guys are off
but the way I look at it is this, take the number before the name off the list, and the lists are pretty accurate!
HWs...
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar (wrong hes #4 not 2)
3. Frank Mir (wrong again hes not #3 hes #5)
4. Cain Velasquez(wrong again hes not #4 hes #3)
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira(wrong again hes #6)
6. Shane Carwin(wrong just plain wrong 1 win over GG does not =#6 hes #8)
7. Junior Dos Santos(#2plain and simple hes the top guy in the UFC his record is 2x that of Lesnar)
8. Brett Rogers(#7)
9. Alistair Overeem(Ubereem is #10 or 11 AA is #9)
10. Andrei Arlovski (#9)
So yeah those ranking suck horribly having a worthless UFC HW belt around your waist does not make your record magically become better Brock has that worthless belt but as i stated his record blows compared to JDS and all of JDS top wins have come recently starting with Werdum). Cains 3 big wins are just as good as Lesnars difference being that Cain has more wins+undefeated.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
JDS at #7 = crime against talent
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Thats not the only one that is off either
But whatever least they are not as bad as cagepotato or 5oz of pain or both(visited either one or both of those checked rankings and was like wtf???) never visited them again.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
shouldnt Mousassi be ranked higher than that
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Jones
Jon Jones will be in the top 10 for LHW next month. Not sure why Hendo is in there when he hasn’t fought at 205 in a while
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