UFC Quick Quote: Dana White didn't want an April 17 event -- but does want Jake Shields
by Jesse Holland on Mar 22, 2010 9:01 AM EDT
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"I was never putting on an April 17 show. The media started calling me and asking me so I just let it ride. Let (Strikeforce) sweat it. (Expletive) them. You want to compete with us? Let’s do it. These guys consider themselves competitors and I like to compete. So, I can’t always tell (media) exactly what’s going on. But I really, really, really dislike these guys and Showtime. We’re going to fight until someone goes away and, believe me, it’s going to be them. Dan Henderson is fighting [expletive] Jake Shields. Come on. Are you serious? Jake Shields is 170 pounds, and he's their (185-pound) champion? Jake Shields is on the last fight of his contract, so they're feeding him to Dan Henderson right now because they want to get rid of him because he's going to go away, or they're going to have to pay him some big money to stick around or whatever the deal is. It's such [expletive] bush-league [expletive], and you guys know it. They're a [expletive] joke. If Jake Shields could pull that off, that would be incredible, and good for him. He's going to get paid because what's going to happen is we would love to take him from there, and I'm sure they'd love him to stick around. I will help drive that [expletive] number right up through the roof and let the Showtime boys pay him a lot of money so that Jake can stick it right up their ass. 'I just choked out Dan Henderson, and now you [expletives] are going to pay me for trying to stick it up my ass. I'm going to stick it up yours.'"
UFC President Dana White finally gets the opportunity to vent over the April 17Strikeforce "Nashville" event and its inclusion of former Octagon star Dan Henderson. White told reporters at the UFC on Versus post-fight press conference (via Yahoo Sports) that Shields is being "fed" to Hendo but win or lose would be a welcome addition to Zuffa's 170-pound roster. Of course many of the San Jose-based promotion's top stars may be headed to Las Vegas if White gets his wish and Strikeforce implodes -- but is that a foregone conclusion? Can Scott Coker succeed where the IFL, WFA, Elite XC, Affliction and PRIDE failed? Time will tell...
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they're doing to Jake what Dana's done to many guys
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
pretty much
I want Ricardo Arona to sign with the UFC and his first fight should be James Toney. This is a win win scenario for MMA
But Dana is allowed to because he is das uber fuhrer!
Whatever any other promoter does, it’s “f-ing retarded freak show” but what ever Dana does is “good for the sport and the fans.” That’s just how it is in a totalitarian monarchy.
What surprises me is Dana’s sudden change of heart RE Strikeforce. Up till now he’s said he has no beef with Coker and that SF is a small “regional” promotion and not a competitor. Now suddenly he’s giving them his usual, profanity spewing rabid dog treatment.
Because they aren't a small regional promotion any more? Just a guess.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
but he was still calling them that
even after Fedor on CBS and during the Hendo fallout. Nothing’s changed with SF since then. My guess is that Dana’s pissed that he still hasn’t been able to swing a deal with network TV.
i don't think strikeforce will ever die i just think the japs will
save the mma in the us by co-promoting w/ strikeforce.if jake loses i don’t know if he will go to the ufc but i do think he wants to fight gsp.but can he beat guys like hardy,alves,fitch, swick, kos, & daily to get to GSP.the ufc is stacked w/ fighters!
also what happen to vera! ha ha ! this guy is an undercard in a fight night card
he stated he was going to hold two belts. ok
Kinda like how...
they feed Tito to Machida. If he would have beat machida who cares, machida was relatively unknown at the time, but if he lost then it really hurt Titos’ bargaining power. Yup ol dana has dicked many a fighter this exact same way……………..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
huerta is another example...
he’s doing the same to Bellator. They gave him a $50G signing bonus which is literally half the money you can get by winning the tourney. But Bjorn and those guys are a lot smarter and are not being strongarmed by TV producers and a network.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 22, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Doing Jake = bad long term dec. for Strikeforce.
If Strikeforce wants to be considered a viable threat to UFC, Jake Shields needs to stay. How can Strikeforce even imply they are UFC competition if they lose Jake?
Was just about to say that Mc....
And Dana just went back down in my estimation….Even if I was starting to like him again after Andrew Keller’s post.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
damn!
well at least he was cool for a few days in your eyes.
by Andrew Keller on Mar 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
He still is Keller
Fact is though when Dana is who he is and when hespeaks of the competition he speaks like a fighter that trash talks his opponent. Regardless anyone that believes anything Dana says about the competition for the most part is foolish. Dana is human like me or you are anybody on this site, imagine if one of Dana’s haters on here was running SFhow they would retaliate…… never mind they are just as hypocritical as Dana LOL the irony
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Agreed Puck.
People get mad when people like Tiger get asked tough questions and the answer is garbage but yet when people like DW say how they really feel, he gets bash for that. The only thing that still aggravates me about DW is that he signed Fat Toney.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I find it hard to believe he didnt plan to have an event to counter Strikeforce..
He probably wanted to do it, but either realized it was impossible, or Zuffa told him not to because of the WEC being hurt over it. God forbid Dana WHite the Almighty admits that someone told him not to do somethin that he wanted to!
In fighting and everyday life you should be determined, though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness, yet not recklessly; your spirit settled, yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak, and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.
The question is: Will Dana be interested on Shields after Henderson kicks his ass?
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
Like Dana said, Shileds is a 170lber holding the 185lb belt.
Of course Dana will sign him IF he loses. Dan is an elite fighter and is way bigger than Jake, there is know shame in losing to Dan Hederson, if he even loses. Maybe the question should be “what is Strikeforce going to do if Shields beats Hendo”
I don't think anybody's worried about that.
Dan is no rookie. The only way he’s gonna get subbed is if he’s already rocked with punches or knees…can anyone see Sheilds getting that done? And Dan is a greco master, he’s not gonna get taken down by a guy that much smaller than him.
If Sheilds accomplishes anything at all in the fight, Dana will snatch him up. If he goes down with the first punch Dan throws, he’ll be headed to Japan.
Only way I see Shields winning shonuff
Is if Shields can stay alive the first two rounds and make Dan really work. Even if Shields can’t bring down Dana the first two rounds his endurance in trying will out last Dans horrible cardio wich has always been his weakness and main reason he has lost fights. In the Silva fight he did great first round but was gased in the second and gave up a easy sub for Silva. I know Shields is no Silva but if he can keep it a grappling match for the first two rounds rounds three to five Dan will be much easier to deal with. With that said I can’t see Shields avoiding Dans power the first two rounds and unless Shields has a hendo chin I think it will be a round one or two TKO or KO. But one of Shields
biggest strengths is Dans weakness.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Why would Sheilds want to bring Dana down?
just playin’ witcha PH, I know you meant Dan, but for a minute there I had a beautiful mental picture of Jake Sheilds making pretzels out of DWs limbs. It cheered me right up!
LOL I was use to typing Dana before I got to Dan
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
heelhook they wont have that problem
But i understand your point
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
Yeah he just said it...
Win or Lose he would be a welcome addition to our 170# division.
"90 percent of the game is half mental"
"Im the oldest I’ve ever been, right now" – Words of Wisdom by Tim Sylvia
Mirko Filipovic: The guys that are always trying to impress girls by saying 'Hey, I bought a new Ferrari or I bought a new ship.' I will take her to my room and she'll see 10 guns. 15 revolvers.
Filipovic's Manager: And a small dick!
hendo...
with the exception of bisping
when has he looked good?
shields wins this then dana will pay him whatever he wants to leave SF
how would that sit with coker if his MW champ left and got smashed by the comps either WW or MW champ???
Wow.. Slanting and bias interpretation..
Dana said he liked Coker and SF and it was unfortunate they were caught in the middle. He also said he dislikes specifically “one” guy at Showtime and that’s where the dis-continent stems from ..
Perhaps Jesse should have just posted the video instead of selective word choice to slant the article..
:)
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
wow dana is suuuuch a cl'ASS' act its ridiculous
What was that 10 swears in 50 words? What a ‘presidential’ speech. All I read was ‘waaah waaah waaah I’m a poor sport’.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 22, 2010 9:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Exactly what I thought Worby
Keep it classy Dana.
I really don’t like this man
by domino effect on Mar 22, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
honestly dont know how so many stick with him
He’s so classless its embarrassing. Yes I get that he got the sport where it is today for the most part. So that gives him uber douchebag immunity? Never seen anyone get the slack this guy gets. Not M.J. Not O.J. Not T.O. Lol no one that is known by their initials except DW.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 22, 2010 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dana loves guys like you Worby like it or not
You could talk all the sh^t you want from a keyboard on what kind of character Dana is with no consequences and really zero impact on your point of view anyway, but Dana loves you because you are talking about him and keeping him in the spotlight and a subject talked about instead of the competition Dana’s mouth is just another UFC subject talked about more than the competition. Just read the fanpost on what kind of guy Dana is Worby from a maniac that met him in person. You read way to much into what says about the competition worby.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
lol thats truly rich
That you think guys like me are why Dana is still talked about etc (not in those exact words). I think a normally worded quote on this topic would be conversed about regardless. Kinda like all the other quotes from everyone MMA related that’s a name in the biz.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 22, 2010 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How does Dana a none fighter get more response than a henderson, Rogers
Diaz … and so on? How many peaple talk about Coker I think the last post with him making a comment had a huge 12 replies. the media sees this and gives even more exposure to the UFC and really that is why Dana is talked about. He’s a smart man no doubt about it. Like I said read kellers fan post in the fauvorites to see what a maniac who seen him in person thinks of him.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Dana doesn't talk this shit because he's smart
He talks this way because he has no self-control and the emotional maturity of an 8 year old.
He is an intellegent guy, no doubt, with a very good head for business and marketing, but his unprofessional profanity-spewing hate-rants aren’t a calculated maneuver, they’re his ego overriding his intelligence.
That is true shonuff
And a reason not to take into your own opinion anything Dana has to say about the competiton and it’s fighters as he is obviously very biased.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
AMEN! Biased and...
waffles on his stance and his promises more than a Presidential candidate. What blows my mind is how he’ll say something about a fighter and then you read Mania and there will be a hundred kool-aid drinkers echoing him like a parrot…and suddenly Randy is a pretetious lying greed-monger, Rampage is a selfish backstabber, Hendo is an overrated gold-digger, and Fedor is a fat slob who’s only fought cans., Hershel Walker is a circus act, and Kimbo has a lot of potential.
Exactly shonuff
The fans that see it to the extreme one way or another. Don’t take what Dana says to heart see it for what it is. Hendo wasn’t worth the money he was asking for the UFC thats it and thats all there is too it. Dana isn’t a asshole for it either is Hendo. Same thing with Randy but Dana came to terms with him a business deal they both agreed on. And Page Dana was pissed that another good fighter was going down that path and I don’t blame him, but on Pages side he has to do what is best for him and the movies is something he always dreamed of. Dana showed there he was more a business friend than a actual friend wich pissed off Page. Anything Dana says about the competition whether you beleives him or cry’s about what he says is a little naive anyway you put.
The kool-aid drinkers are on both extremes shonuff no doubt.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Agreed on all accounts except that I thought that Herschel debuting on a SF main card was a joke before Dana said anything on the matter
However it does beggar belief why so many people take his views as gospel. At the end of the day he’s a promoter, and a damn good one at that, so most of the things that he says are just to get people talking and watching UFC shows. He’s not the antichrist but he’s also not Mr Perfect, at this point I don’t take his comments too seriously because they’re all hype.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
ding ding ding!
Thx Shonuff for seeing it how it IS.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 22, 2010 6:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
websters dictionary defines 'hypocrite' as...
Hypocrite (hip o krit)
The current president of an at the time, crumbling mixed martial arts organization established in 1993. He loves fighters one day then dismisses them the instant they dispute or leave, as they are no longer relevant. Supports other organizations when they pose no threat they are good companies, though as they grow they are no longer good all of a sudden. Has been known to curse from time to time. Can be found taking tito’esque fighters back after saying “They’ll never fight with UFC again.” *
*Also see; Dana White
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 22, 2010 9:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
*worbsters dictionary, my bad
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 22, 2010 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shields for Hendo not bad on Dana's part
If you think about it Dan Henderson may of had the best chance with Belfort in beating Silva but for both of them their chances were very little and for Hendo he is 40 so if he wants a belt why not get one on national TV his chances are much better, infact I think Hendo will have two belts by the time this year is over. Good for Henderson and really in the end it works out for the UFC not paying championship dollar for a old fighter that most likely would never be a champion in the UFC a win win situation. I agree I would of loved to see Hendo tested against guys like Belfort, Wandy, Evans and so on but really how many fights does Hendo have in him I would say at least two good years or six?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Dude is a hypocrite, But hey, thats his right.
Plus he calls Strikeforce a regional show all the time. He sure gets his panties in a wad and likes to bitch about a small “regional show.” He is just bitter that they signed Fedor.
Theres no denying the UFC is the overall better promotion thought. Strikeforce needs a better marketing team.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
yeah, they totally dropped the ball promoting Fedor on CBS
I watch CBS almost every night and only saw 1 commercial in the weeks before the fight and that wasn’t till the night before and it was a really shitty commercial.
The problem I see with M1 is they want the fame but to do little of the work themselves
You have to give it to them though as they have found easy money for doing very little.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
apparently, their value is in their overseas contacts
and supposedly they work TV deals that draw millions of viewers in E. Europe and Asia. I believe the West is clueless enough about that part of the world for that to be true and us have no knowledge of it…or it could be BS. Who knows! But from the perspective of the English-speaking world, it certainly looks like anyone who deals with M-1 is getting gang raped.
Yeah it's great they get the TV deals overseas but they need money from overseas sponsors
Sponsors in america could care less if someone in Russia is watching and won’t pay more to advertise on overseas ratings. They want the US ratings pure and simple. Like I said what money is M1 bringing? Fedor adds depth but honestly as far as sponsor Money goes I think Rogers brings in just as much.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Is Jake going to refuse to fight AKA guys too?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
"I'm going to stick it up yours.'"
Haha!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I don't want copromotions
Sure if the UFC did copromotions, we’d see Fedor in 1 maybe 2 UFC fights. But what about after that? It’s not worth it, let Shrek take his posse and screw over the smaller promotions.
When I see guys like Jon Jones & Dos Santos completely outclass very good fighters, just totally fighting at another level, it reminds me how little the UFC needs Fedor.
In boxing (I’m a boxing fan too) we see promotions pit their own fighters against each other all the time so that they can keep more of the money to themselves. It happens all the time, instead of seeing the fight the fans want, you see something like Pacman vs Clottey (both Top Rank)
Fact is though for the UFC who makes the most money to share their profits with a organization that makes less
Is as ignorant as Affliction and SF co promotion with M1.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
do you think
do you think you could have operated a MMA organization for 20 years like Scott Coker without sinking it? I doubt it. Scott Coker obviously is a pretty good businessman and he thinks it’s a good investment to co-promote with M-1. Fact of the matter is, Fedor has built his name in mma so when you sign him, you are using his name. I don’t think it’s so crazy to be compensated for that. Co-promotion is just a way of compensating the fighter for his services. Lots of other fighters do it. Don’t act like it’s crazy.
what's crazy is giving Rogers a title shot
The SF HW “champ” only makes an appearance once every 2 years and you’re gonna waste that on Rogers, who just got put to sleep on national TV!?!?! Unless Rogers wins that fight (in which case we’re looking at a too-soon rematch with Fedor) Strikeforce won’t see their HW belt for another 2 years!
The whole HW division is a mess in SF and along with the piss poor marketing is the worst thing about the promotion
As long as they keep on putting exciting MMA cards on Bravo or online then I’ll be happy though. I’m loving the co-promotion with Dream, that was an inspired move and is already producing quality champion vs champion fights on SF cards. They’re certainly a lot more reliable and credible than Elite and Affliction ever were and unlike the WEC and Dream I don’t have to rely on youtube or other video sites to see their cards.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Affliction had a stronger HW division than the UFC at the time
if memory serves, they had 6 of the top 10 HWs in the world at the time (before Tim and Andrei fell from grace and Brock, Cain, and JDS rose to prominance).
Doesn't sound like right now SF and M1 are happy with their relationship
SF may see the money they are shelling out to a company that does so little yet M1 has the nerve to say they are not doing enough, but your right Coker seems like a smart man and we most likely will only see Fedor fight once a year because thats all SF can afford
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Dana said he wanted strikeforce to stick around
Anyone got that quote from when Dana said at the last event that he wanted Strikeforce to stick around? He said it during the Q&A session. I think it’s on youtube. He said he wanted Strikeforce to stick around and now he’s saying that he wants them to go away. He’s such a liar.
Thats when SF was not competiting with the UFC on the same fighters the UFC wanted
times change as do opinions.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I hate looking at danas face
I bet he only pulled jon jones away from vera at the weigh-ins because he was wearing a shirt that said vs and he wanted to be inbetween them for the shot or somthing……im just sayin
" Im surprised GSP can get his jeans on with all these people clinging to his nuts"- Dan Hardy
Ill have to take notes from Shields...
apparently wrapping your hands in a mechanical room is strictly for the 1337
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
that looks like a boiler room
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Shields in the UFC
Who’s title will he get? Kingpin GSP or Spider? None i would say. Hell, he wouldnt even get a win over BJ Penn yet any higher division. Dana is just making an example of strikeforce champion.
That will only work if he wins against Dan until that happens lets see
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
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