Freddie Roach: Manny Pacquiao would be the most successful boxer to transition to MMA (Video)
by MMAmania.com on Mar 14, 2010 11:23 AM EDT
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This interview was great i wonder what boxing fans make of it?
I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.
Kermit Contron would be the best
he was a JUCO wrestling champion
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
by PHISH NATION on Mar 14, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Cintron would be a monster at 155lb. Big KO power and very physically strong with wrestling background. I would love to see him come over. About a year ago I remember him stating in an interview that he was toying with the possiblity.
kermit would be cool...and will happen
he’s around 30 now so he could still do it, although I’d love for him to fight Margarito one more time…maybe a lost cause but it would be awesome to watch
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
wow
I never knew he kermit wrestled, but yea that would be awesome, I know there is another boxer who’s a wrestler, freestyle I believe in the 170-195 area, I just don’t remember who.
by Phenomenal Angel on Mar 14, 2010 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i know bj flores is about to make the stepover but im not sure if he has a wrestling background.could be someone else
*sign Tyson,
IF you’re going to sign an over the hill, out of shape, aged Boxing champ why not have it be Iron Mike!
Hell id PAY TO WATCH tyson/Tooney with 4 ounce gloves!
hell id pay to watch tyson against anyone with 4 oz gloves just for the sheer spectacle of it all..
/jds/struve/kongo/buentello/AA/barry
i know off topic, but stiill lol
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 14, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
he got huge
But lately from what I’ve seen he’s slimming down a bit. He did dancing with the stars italian version or something, might have done it, look at chuck! Lol
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 14, 2010 8:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Toney's nowhere near as washed up as Tyson
He’s not fought in years and got KO’d by Danny Williams in his last fight. The last thing that Tyson should be doing is fighting again.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
i would pay to see it
and so would so many others!
tyson needs money, he’d start up a training program and throw down
tyson > tooney
lol
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone ever see the T.V. show fight science?
They tested all sorts off MMA and and individual martial arts techniques measuring speed, power, accuracy etc etc. They also tested glove types vs bare knuckles. They had Bas Rutten do the test.
From bare knuckles to 4oz gloves was a HUGE difference in power. But from 4oz to regular boxing gloves there was next to NO DIFFERENCE. A lot of people think smaller gloves means more power…not so, they are more accurate and allow you to grapple, thats it.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
didnt cintron stop wrestling because of knee issues?
I thought I read that once. Either way, he has a serious chance of being very competitive if he crossed over, at least compared to the majority of boxers…
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 14, 2010 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Roach knows what he is talking.
One of the very good interviews. No BS there.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
I put up 2 links to the fight last night
I don’t think mania would take them down. but they disappeared, kinda weird. maybe sbnation, sorry guys!
That is so obvious!
Look I can do this too……………..Lebron would be the most successful basketball player to transistion to mma! Naming the best athlete in their particular sport is to easy Freddy! Sorry I dont like Roach at all. However I would love to see some of these boxers learn to sprawl!
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and how is this his fault? he was asked and he answered what he honestly thought. i didn’t said he was going to be successful, he said he would be the most successful.
by lobsterarmcrank on Mar 14, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he gave a decent answer. I think the interviewer may have been looking for him to say a guy like Toney would do well with superior punching technique and power to knock ugys out and be successful but instead Freddy picked a small guy who is faster. Decent answer in my opinion.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Mar 14, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Bout the smaller guys having better chances. I’d like to see some big names try it. I wonder what weight Hatton would fight at, he loses a load to make weight. If he did that drop to make 155, he’d be a big man to take down and keep down
Hatton's going to announce his retirement very soon
He let his weight balloon far too high to ever comeback, even for his standards, and his family don’t want him fighting anymore because of those KO defeats to Pacman and Money. He’s just going to stick to being a promoter now. At this point Hatton is done fighting period nevermind MMA.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
he could be in great shape in a year if he wanted to, even less.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
i knew the fight would go down like that.
I like clottey and he dissapointed me, I thought he would give pac the best fight yet, but guess not, I kept thinking how is he gonna engage with his d and pacs speed.
Lol
Anyways has anyone seen andre berto?
I think his pops is mma coach and he’s a good boxer, I wonder if in surprise hell make transition.
by Phenomenal Angel on Mar 14, 2010 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You like Clottey?
I never cared for him, he never lets his hands go and is a tremendous crybaby.
Berto would be a cool transition, his pops was like a pro wrestler that teaches mma now I think.
However, Berto is about to hit the big paydays in boxing and would be foolish to switch now. BTW, I think Mosley would have schooled him if the fight had happened.
yea i like clottey
Besides the pac fight, he’s had some good fights, I personally think he won the cotto fight and I was going for cotto, I liked his defense and attacks, true didn’t work for pacs speed.
Also the margarito fight I think he lost a split but no lie his hand made a difference, id like to see a rematch of that.
Yea I think mosley woulda beat berto, but after berto gets some money making fights, boxing won’t be too great or watched he’d have money and if dedicated to fighting he’d be an awesom transition, I don’t think he’s even peaked in boxing.
by Phenomenal Angel on Mar 14, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
that Berto hasn’t yet peaked. He has a real physical style and athletically gifted and could be a real force in MMA if he was dedicated. He just passed on his first PPV due to the tragedy in Haiti. I don’t think even UFC is going to pay him anywhere near what a PPV headlining fight in boxing would have.
The Bertos are from here in Tampa, Florida...
They are known as the Fighting Bertos! The whole family fights either boxing or mma. All 6 kids compete in some sort of combat sport from boxing, mma, to grappling tournaments…They have a super respected kids program and gym in Central Florida.
"90 percent of the game is half mental"
"Im the oldest I’ve ever been, right now" – Words of Wisdom by Tim Sylvia
Mirko Filipovic: The guys that are always trying to impress girls by saying 'Hey, I bought a new Ferrari or I bought a new ship.' I will take her to my room and she'll see 10 guns. 15 revolvers.
Filipovic's Manager: And a small dick!
I respect the hell out of Roach
He seems to really understand both boxing and MMA as different sports and how they can both be great but doesn’t feel the need to demean one to benefit the other. Also, that guy just loves what he does to keep working as much as he does even with his illness. Class act!
What I would have been interested to hear (Because we hear all the time he has time best boxing in MMA) is how he thinks Penn would do in the boxing realm against top-tier competition. I know Silva wants to fight Roy Jones Jr. but it would be fun seeing a day in Roach’s gym when both Penn and Pacquiao showed up and had a serious sparring session. Comparable sizes…
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Mar 14, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
It would be hella fun to see.
Fun but i think even with the size deference Pac Man would out class Penn and make him look like an amateur. This is coming from a HUGE Penn fan. I also think Roy Jones would spank on A.S. But it would be fun to witness.
by Pack Leader on Mar 14, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
pack leader
are you from California?
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 14, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
thought so, "hella" gave ya away haha
cheers,
early am for mee!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Pacman would murder BJ and Andy could actually be competetive with RJJ
That’s how shot Roy is at this point, even Danny Green was able to KO him in the first. Shame as he was so good in his day but he’s gone on for far too long and is ruining his legacy with every fight. If Andy retired from MMA and joined a top boxing gym then I’d bet on him against the once great RJJ.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Pacman would murder BJ??
BJ would tie him up quicker then Jeffrey dahmer did his boy toys!
sub rnd 1
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 15, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
How would he do that?
I don’t know how BJ would sub him at all. Because the hypothetical was a BOXING sparring session between the two.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Mar 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I have never been sold on Jones...
I think he made his career fighting no namers and guys before they came to their peak. He never fought that Polish guy either, can’t remember his name, but it seemed like he avoided him like crazy. The guy was stripped of his title. I forget why but I think Anderson would do ok against him.
"90 percent of the game is half mental"
"Im the oldest I’ve ever been, right now" – Words of Wisdom by Tim Sylvia
Mirko Filipovic: The guys that are always trying to impress girls by saying 'Hey, I bought a new Ferrari or I bought a new ship.' I will take her to my room and she'll see 10 guns. 15 revolvers.
Filipovic's Manager: And a small dick!
I think A.S. might do ok with RJJ...
But, i will always give the top rank boxer the edge in boxing and vice versa with mma. More so with mma.
by Pack Leader on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Roach is the only boxing trainer who will put himself out there.
He’s the only one in the wide world of boxing who put himself out there to say boxing is losing steam. Much respect to Freddy.
Dana would take Pacquiao in a heartbeat
He is a big fan, as am I. He can overwhelm anyone on the stand up. He would fight at lightweight I presume. BJ Penn v Pac Man now thats the dream fight. Give Pacquiao 1 year of takedown and submission defence and he will be a star in MMA
reality
lets get back to real life my friend
lol
Give pac 5 years I still think bj would sub him. But bj is bj. Standing it would be a sick fight but even so pac is small for even the featherweights of mma I think. How about aldo/pac
by Phenomenal Angel on Mar 14, 2010 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah right
If a guy like Kenny, who has been training takedown and sub defense for waaaaaay longer than a year couldn’t stop BJ’s what the hell makes you think Pacquiao could?
His boxing wouldn’t help him pick up that other stuff. That’s like saying Demian Maia could be a pro boxer in a year.
Exactly. One year of take down defence isn't going to do shit for anyone.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
nice
At last an honest interview about both sports from some one respctful! No bull talk from toney/hopkins etc just down to earth factual knowledge which is appreciated.
Roach hit the nail on the head a few times but the key dimension i think was around the distance and the importance of this in relation to both sports. Its quite simple that although mma may have good boxers they are not at the same level of the guys that pro box at the highest level, equally it can be said about boxers in mma as there is so much to know and learn!!
Its a joy however knowing that roach watches the mma fight game and is keen to learn about the sport including wanting to work with guys like gsp. He seems so aware of where the 2 sports are and how they can learn from each other, this is the kind of people that can make both sports better as there is space for both.
Props to roach.
Funny tho when he was discussin pacman i thought he was trying to say jui jitsu but couldnt remember what it was called so flung muay thia lol?? anyone else pick up on that?
pacquiao
makes way too much money in boxing to transition to mma… we can dream though cant we? maybe when he’s done with boxing cause thats what it seems like boxers are doing now… wait till they’ve peaked and transition to mma.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
Great interview!!! Everybody should rec this cause everybody should hear it
great guy! humble, smart, and straight forward…
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Roach is a cool dude
I always try to listen when he is talking. Didn’t he once say BJ has the best boxing?
Since Hardy is getting trained by him I’m giving him just more than puncher’s chance against GSP. Maybe he’ll catch him on the way in for a TD, don’t really think so though
yeh i think he did say BJ was the best at the boxing out of the mma fighters
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
Roach
Is the man, and has worked with some insane boxers; he should dedicate more time to mma fighters.
he did with Arlovski
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 14, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
When did he...
Change his mindset. I thought he was all boxing and no mma. Seems like hes seen the light.
I don't remember him
ever being anti-mma, but when he trains fighters it is in boxing. He never seemed stuck up about the combat sports being better or worse than each other that I can think of.
He's trained Hardy and AA so he's never been anti-MMA as far as I know
I have a lot of respect for Freddie, top guy and a top trainer. He’s really helped Manny become the world beater that he is today and I’m excited to see how good he can make Khan.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
what a great interview
Freddy Roach seems like a really cool guy. I was surprised by his honesty. Good conversation between them both at the end too.
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