Dana White: Randy Couture (not Chuck Liddell) vs Rich Franklin at UFC 115 in Vancouver
by MMAmania.com on Mar 13, 2010 6:29 PM EST
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Former UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin (25-5) will not face Chuck Liddell (21-7) at UFC 115 on June 12 in Vancouver despite numerous reports that surfaced earlier today.
On the contrary, "Ace" will headline the show opposite former heavyweight and light heavyweight champion, Randy Couture, in a 205-pound showdown, according to UFC President Dana White.
In addition, White assured fans that "nothing happened to Tito" and that he and the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" are still "cool," indicating that he is perhaps still set to battle nemesis Chuck Liddell as planned at the conclusion of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11.
More on this breaking news as soon as possible.
In addition to Couture vs. Franklin, UFC 115 is expected to feature a heavyweight mash-up between Mirko Cro Cop and Pat Barry while welterweights Martin Kampmann and Paulo Thiago make their case for 170-pound contendership.
Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for future updates on this still-developing fight card.
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Any timetable for the Tito/Chuck fight?
I like Randy/Franklin. Should be a good fight.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
whaaaatever. we'll see if Dana just doesn't want ppl knowing
…stuff that would effect ratings on the season etc, by us finding out this early. Could be plugging the leak here.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 13, 2010 6:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you insinuating Reverend White might be lying? Get the fuck out of here, infidel.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Dana fuckin White lie?
It would be shocking, but I guess until it happens I shouldn’t start ‘rumors’. It would be a 1st.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 13, 2010 7:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when has he lied in the past?
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
by PHISH NATION on Mar 13, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
btw, Pac Man won by UD
won every round but 1
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
by PHISH NATION on Mar 14, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Clottey was very negative
I can’t comprehend people going into big fights and only wanting to go the distance. Pointless.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Dude...
I was staying off of boxing sites for a reason.
Wasn’t expecting spoilers here…
was it exciting at all?
Or too lopsided. I might not download if it was.
it was a one sided beatdown
and boring to boot. pac man killed clotty’s body. cost me 300 because I bet it wouldn’t go to a decision! not worth watching!
I put 2 links up to watch, but someone took them down
Allright,
thanks for the heads up. I will skip the download then. This PPV def wasn’t a buy for me. But Mayweather/Mosley is going to be the real deal. Mayweather is finally gonna get his beatdown!
Well worth a watch imo, Pac wa awesome, body shot combination clinic!!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
~
i knew pacman was going to handle clottey..
i hope mayweather does get beatdown, but i think floyd is going to smash mosley..
i am the mighty tighty whitey and im smuggling plums!~
by stinky~fingers on Mar 15, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
This fight is a interesting one
Mainly down to the fact Franklin has always done well against Wrestlers, but struggles against the more dynamic opponents, eg: Belfort, Anderson, Machida. As for Randy I have a feeling if he wins they will give him the next title shot or the winner of this faces winner of Rampage vs Rashad. BTW, I have it on good authority that Thiago Silva will face Ryan Bader. I’ve got Thiago Silvas xbox live tag on my buddy list and he says its in the works.
by Apocacryptic on Mar 14, 2010 5:56 AM EST up reply actions
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i always wanted to see chuck fight rich.. i would have much preferred to see chuck fight rich over tito/3..
franklin/couture is still a decent match up~ whatever…
i wish these guys fought 5 years ago..
i am the mighty tighty whitey and im smuggling plums!~
by stinky~fingers on Mar 15, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I kinda wish Rich had stayed at LHW
Of course, he might have never been champ, but he would have given us a lot more great fights over the past 5 years.
Agreed.
I would much rather see Randy fight Rich Franklin. It should be good competitive fight. I also want to see Chuck and Tito fight different people. Personally, I would like to see Tito fight James Toney (the trash talking would be epic and Tito would brutalize him on the ground) and to see Chuck fight Coleman. I know that Coleman just got cut, but I think that he presents some interesting challenges for those who generally have a stand up style. Randy was a terrible match up for Coleman (although Coleman was the one who asked for that fight)
Ortiz VS Toney
Intially I didn’t like the idea, but Tito would hype that fight MMA vs Boxing… and down on his back Toney would go…. Tiiiiimmmmmbbbbeerrrrrrr…..
this is getting out of hand..so many rumors..i want the truth..lol
wtf is up with pumpkin head..has the story been solved yet..
LOL. Yet another MMA media megafail. So I guess that means Liddell/Ortiz won’t be in Vancouver then. Whatever.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
you know what this means? Randy winning = title shot..bet the farm
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I’d like to say that’s impossible. Sadly, you may well be right. I shudder at the thought of Methuselah main eventing my hometown card. This better be a co-mainer.
If Rampage beats Rashad he gets the next shot. Then again, does he even want it? After Li’l Nog crushes Forrest he could get the winner of this Couture/Franklin fight in a #1 contender match.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Methuselah
Come on, Randy isn’t even close to being 969 years old. I was surprised to see a biblical reference, but it did make me laugh. Good one.
by The real Philo on Mar 13, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
He might not be 969, but Jenna has a Burning Bush.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
i think he may be
JJ is fuckin super intelligent
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by PSYQO78 on Mar 13, 2010 8:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So,
Does that mean Tito is a flaming staff?
by The real Philo on Mar 13, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
jenna has a burning bush
Good stuff man lol…
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 13, 2010 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can you imagine
If Rampage beats Rashad and Shogun beats Lyoto? We could see Rampage vs Shogun for the title. That would be an epic rematch that I would love to see.
Epic Rematch for sure...
Rampage is not the same fighter he was in Pride and Shogun is still not fighting with the ferocity that he had in Pride(The Machida fight was the best he has looked and he still didn’t look like he ever wanted to even attempt finishing that fight). It could end up being a bad night for Shogun and Rampage could end up avenging both of his onesided beatdowns! I know a lot of people here don’t like Rampage, but when he has an agenda-he has been brutal.
"90 percent of the game is half mental"
"Im the oldest I’ve ever been, right now" – Words of Wisdom by Tim Sylvia
Mirko Filipovic: The guys that are always trying to impress girls by saying 'Hey, I bought a new Ferrari or I bought a new ship.' I will take her to my room and she'll see 10 guns. 15 revolvers.
Filipovic's Manager: And a small dick!
Inside Fighting, then MMAjunkie, etc ,etc. ALL of them said they have one, if not several credible sources and sources “close to the situation”.
This first came out as Liddell vs Franklin on April 17th by “credible sources close” to the situation. How can these sources be even considered “credible”. Sites like mmajunkie and mmaweekly love to run with stories and be the first with breaking news…….and they say they have sources..but has to be bullshit. If they had a crdible source, they would of had a little better idea of what was actually happening. Intead they run with something vaguely close to what is actually happening from “inside” sources.
Now BOTH mmajunkie and mmaweekly HAVE changed their part of the story...
thats says they have a credible source and “inside sources close to the situation”.
FACEPALM/MAJOR FAIL. At least they cover it up AFTER they already say they have CREDIBLE info from RELIABLE sources. Both now say NOTHING about the “credible source”. Sad when sites gotta be the first and actually state they have credible sources.
lol
but when they are “slow”, like take a few hours to check facts or ..just wait if it sticks, then the peasants in the forums get unruly!
Mr. Kimball notice I got your back on this!
REMEMBER ME. i will be in the ufc one day. Mark my words
by PrettyBoyy91 on Feb 18, 2010 2:06 PM PST
also WHERE IS PRETTYBOYY91
banned? For what?
REMEMBER ME. i will be in the ufc one day. Mark my words
by PrettyBoyy91 on Feb 18, 2010 2:06 PM PST
Who cares?
Don’t say his name and hopefully he won’t return.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
indicating that he is still set to battle nemesis Chuck Liddell as planned at the conclusion of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11.
so nothing is wrong with Tito at all?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Well…
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I bet the problem is with Jenna.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Her vagina is in the process of filing for the right to have its own zip code.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
that is some funny shit!!!!
Been hearing some good ones!!
Someone said that maybe Tito got arrested. He was impersonating a fighter.
My guess is that Tito found a way to back out of his 3rd asskicking against Chuck. Tito in his prime couldnt stop Chuck, I dont think today’s Tito will do any better, even with the slowing, aging Liddell.
It is probably some ploy to get us to tune into TUF every week, just like their did us with Kimbo. Fuck that. I ’ll stop watching if they use this “mystery” as a reason to tune in each and every week.
Someone said that maybe Tito got arrested. He was impersonating a fighter
That was me as well. I’ll be here all week. Leave something in the tip jar by the coat check on your way out.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I can see it now
Disaster strikes, as Tito Ortiz may not be able to fight at the end of the series. “Do you want to be a fucking fighter or not?” (Dana White). Will Tito Ortiz be ready in time to fight Chuck Liddell? “My back is 100%, my cardio is 110%. I feel great. This is the best ever Tito Ortiz.” (Tito Ortiz). Or will the biggest fight of the year be cancelled? “Tito’s spent his whole career ducking me” (Chuck Liddell). Find out next week on the Ultimate Fighter. “On Spike” (Tito Ortiz doing a shit Kimbo impression).
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
thats exactly it david...
I wouldn’t be surprised if jenna and tito concocted some scheme to fake some drama to get her name into the show, those two are obsessed with marketing and playing the media game.
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 13, 2010 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
will someone pls explain the situation...........wtf............
by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 13, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions
it's this guy on the Jersey Shore...typical steroid douchebag
But the news here is that there isn’t any news
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by PSYQO78 on Mar 13, 2010 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This sucks! i was getting excited about Rich vs chuck. I love Randy, but I think he should have retired after all he could do is hold Vera up against the fence to keep from getting KOed.
I can think of a bunch of times Randy should have retired. I really don’t get what he’s trying to accomplish at this point. He knows he ain’t winning a strap in the UFC ever again.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
He LOST that fight against Vera. The fight was overseas, therefore scored by UFC paid employees. Nuff said. Randy is too slow. Sure, he is still my hero and always will be….but in all honesty, he cant hang with the level of elite talent. He will always be the baddest dude over 40…..But he is NOT at the top
scored by ufc paid employees??? pls explain???
by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 13, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
That is what the big deal was with Hammil/Bisping
That fight was in the UK, England I beleive. There is no fight commission in England at that event. In cases such as these…everything from the refs, judges, doctors, drug testing, etc, etc is done by UFC paid employees. They are guys that the UFC hires and brings over to the UK to perform their specific duties.
Vera vs Couture was also in the UK, England also, I beleive. I know that the Hammill/Bisping mentioned above was all true. And I am 95% sure that nothing has changed since then.
If anyone has any info, PLEASE let me know and correct me. But, I am fairly confident that Vera/Couture was the same situation as before in England. I am sure about the Bisping /Hammil fight and UFC bringing over their own judges,ref, docs, drug testing, etc, etc because when that happened I did quite a bit of research on it at that time. And the main point of many arguements was that the UFC brought over their own fight commission essentially.
I hope that helps
Most countries don't have national commissions for MMA so the UFC usually brings their own staff to most events outside of the US
As far as I know they still do that over here. Good call on why there has been some shady decisions on foreign cards but the UK isn’t the only place where dodgy judging takes place by any means. I hope that the crappy Couture and Bisping decisions were because of incompetence and not fight fixing.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
I meant no bias just because it was the UK
I agree that ANYWHERE there isnt a fight commission and the UFC has to fly in and bring basically a fight commission in, shady thigns can happen.
LIke both Bisping and Couture. Just imagine that your boss is Dana White. Imagine that HE PAID to fly you over for basically as vacation, minus the day of work. If you actually worked for the UFC, you knew what it meant for UFC business if Bisping and these days Couture win. You woudl definitely know the marketing and money spent on Bisping. you know that you couldnt have teh TUF winner losing. Both of them winning, mean much more money for the UFC. Just imagine hard grinding Dana White as your boss and you have to judge those 2 fights…..you know which one winning is BEST for UFC’s PROFIT. That is why Couture won that fight and Bisping for that matter.
I know everyone thinks it is just because I hate Bisping. In almost every poll, 80-90% of all thought that Hammil won. Minus Bisping close frioends and die hard followers….that leaves just about EVERYONE else thinking Hammil won.
No one will discuss this in much detail…but it is a problem when you have the UFC basically being the fight commission. I think they are very fair, and I believe they are NOT crooked, nor is this a conspiracy. But just imagine there is a close decision and your boss is Dana White…..which fighter you gonna pick???? With more and more cards outside the US….I can see more and more “contraversial” decisions. What a word for that “contraversial”. LOL
This goes for their cards in US too.
If they can do so overseas they sure as hell can in the US, the UFC is mma and have been for a long time now.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
But the difference lies in the commision...
The UFC doesn’t get a say in who judges a fight. The commission puts the judges to work. Therefore it allows an extra barrier of protection. Can fights get the fix in the US? Of Course. There is always ways to grease palms and I don’t think fightfan was being biased in the least, it is just a fact that is hard to be overlooked, many of the shady calls have been in the overseas market.
As far as hometown advantage, that happens in many sports. How many times does the hometeam get the close call or the benefit of the doubt in just about every sport known to man. I am not sure anything can ever truly be done about that except for making sure the judges that have proven themselves most partial remain employed. For example someone like Cecil Peebles(sp?) has been involved in a large amount of questinable calls. Is he really still the best choice for high stake fights?
"90 percent of the game is half mental"
"Im the oldest I’ve ever been, right now" – Words of Wisdom by Tim Sylvia
Mirko Filipovic: The guys that are always trying to impress girls by saying 'Hey, I bought a new Ferrari or I bought a new ship.' I will take her to my room and she'll see 10 guns. 15 revolvers.
Filipovic's Manager: And a small dick!
Cecil Peoples is the WORST
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Mar 15, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget hometown advantage
Even in the US with the commisions, the popular fighter can get extra juice from the audience cheering anytime he does anything and in a close fight it can definately sway the judges imo.
so what are they suppose to do?
If there is no commission not have judges? Not trying to be a smart ass( this time). I just want to know what the consensus is on this subject.
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by PSYQO78 on Mar 14, 2010 2:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't really know
I think if we got away from the 10 pt must system for 3 round fights that would be a good step in the right direction. Close rounds can make for people upset either way a fight is decided.
Who am I to say Randy can't fight anymore
As long as he can hold his own in the cage im all for it.
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
I agree
I am NOT saying he cant compete. He can still beat good fighters at 46!! Wow. I just think he wikk never be on top again. He could probably beat mid level guys until he is 50. But, he, even though is in awesome shape, just cant beat the tops guys. They are just too young, strong, and quicker.
No matter what, I will always be a Randy fan. I respect himn more than any other fighter.
you think Randy should retire, but are excited about Chuck???
Randy has been WAY more competitive than Chuck in recent years. Chuck’s lost 4 of his last 5, 3 of them by going to sleep. And he hasn’t had a convincing win since the last time he beat Tito, 4 years ago. Couture may be slowing down, but he’s still got a lot more left in him than poor Chucko.
so am i, and its not just cos i have to tie my shoe laces?????
wtf is going on???
by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
Just another reason to wacth every week. If it starts being the same bullshit like with Kimbo, I may stop watching. I will puke if I have to listen after each show about the Tito “mystery”, etc, etc.
I dont know what to believe. I am sure it is a little of everything
Oh Christ. I just pictured seven straight cliffhangers about Tito leaving the show in the vein of “will Kimbo fight again next week”. Ugh. Shameless fucking Spike TV.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck off.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
lol, you fucking kill me.......
whenever i read your comments i laugh out loud, your comments give me the impression that you are permanently having a bad day……i hope your not, but you are a miserable bastard……….lol…..
by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 13, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
even though they are 99% correct.....
cheer up…….lol…..
by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 13, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
The combination of Tito Ortiz, Dana White, Couture/Franklin headlining the card I’m going to, and your comments have that effect on me. I’m usually pretty upbeat. LOL.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I fear to the weekly Tito Ortiz cliffhangers
I’d laugh and cry if the terrible one I wrote myself ends up being accurate.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Looks like the stalker has moved to a new victim.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
fightfan i hope your wrong
And Dana better not say this is the best season yet either lol
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
you know that is coming
He will say……I know I have said it in past seasons and say it all the time, but I really beleive that this will be the best season yet. This comes after last season’s weak cast and the same predictable badgering between Page and Rashad for 12 weeks.
Sure, he is the promoter and is not gonna say this seasons sucks or is just average. But its the same song every season, etc, etc, etc….I’d feel better if he just said this season’s gonna kick ass. The taping went great. I think you guys will really like this season. When he gets you so hyped…it is kind of like a big letdown. That is how I felt after a few weeks of last season. Well jsut about every season since the first 2.
He is still claiming the TUF 10 is the best series ever
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
One was the best. Then 3 and 5 tie for 2nd best.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Mar 15, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I like this fight better than Liddell vs Franklin.
Randy seems to still have a chin so it will make it a little more interesting. I wouldn’t be surprised if Randy pulled off a decision like Hendo did against Ace.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
That’s what he’ll have to do if he wants to beat Rich. He sure as shit ain’t gonna box with him. LnP FTW.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Randy vs. anyone = 3 round dirty boxing decision borefest
He realized after brock and nog that he can’t afford to box with fighters anymore. This will be how every single one of his fights will be until he hangs them up
At least
He isn’t being prideful and stupid. He knows his strengths and he knows what he can do at this point in his career. Love seeing Randy still be able to compete. I don’t think that he can get the title again though. I think that anyone with knockout power is too much of a threat and they will put Randy down. But Randy beats the odds all of the time.
What sucks for Randy is that every fighter that he competes against is probably in their greatest shape possible because they are fighting a legend. Same goes for Chuck. They are up against pretty tough odds in any bout they take. It’s amazing that Randy can still compete the way he does and I hope that Chuck can string together a few wins in this comeback.
Yep
And Vera defended every takedown. He actually almost finished him in rd 2. In rd 3, the same, Randy desparetly trying for takedown, without getting it and some dirty boxing that did no damage at all to Vera. Vera actually takes Randy down and briefly gets full mount before the fight ends….
And this is scored as a win for Randy?? That was some bullshit. I say this even though I respect Randy more than any fighter out there. Simply, he did not win that fight
yes he did.
Judges and I saw it that way as well. Your opinion; over ruled. Victory awarded to: Randy & Worby.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Mar 13, 2010 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you can’t win if you’re not fighting in a fight, randy was just pushing brandon against the fence.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
And Vera had no answer for that.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
Expect the takedown, knockdown, wobbling Randy with the first strike and mount
Hard to compare with Randy’s clinch against the fence, right?
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Vera should have won that fight
and the fact that he didn’t is a big setback in his career. Now imagine if he loses to Jones. I don’t know if I should be impressed with Couture or disappointed with Vera.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
i don't know
i was hoping they would give it to vera, but with the 10-pt must system, i agree with judges and worby (fightmetric says 29-29 draw for 10pt must, but gives it to vera 158-142 on total performance). vera got in good shots, but i think randy controlled two of the 3 rounds. though i also am not sure whether to credit randy or be disappointed in vera. i guess both.
randy won
im shocked this is even a debate, we all know how mma is scored,
round one there was no action but randy did control where the fight took place and, if that is all that happend in a round then you give it to the guy who controled where the fight went.
round two, vera won, but every thing he did was in this round, so now there tied 1-1
round three, randy landed three times the amount of strikes controled the pace and where the fight went for most of the round while vera landed two or three body kicks and got a take down for all of five seconds, when it goes to the judges, they score the rounds by points which randy clearly had more, 29 28 by all three judges to randy. it was a boring and close fight but it was no robbery
When I say he should have one that fight
I mean it was very important for him to win it. He had to succeed. I didn’t mean it was a robbery although it was a close fight.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
Vera was the only one who landed any meaningful strikes and successfully took his opponent down
A knockdown in the second and takedown and transition into mount in the third should count for more than holding against the fence, plus Vera rocked Randy with the first punch in the first. Control should only be the deciding factor if nothing happens, it should never count for more than superior positions, knockdowns or takedowns.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
exactly, Yan!
I don’t get how people bitch when Couture wins, saying, “all he did was hold him against the fence”, when all Vera did was get held against the fence. If a guy spends 80% of a fight in a position he doesn’t want to be in, but can’t do a damn thing to get out of…I call that losing!
But don’t get me wrong, I was VERY impressed by Vera’s wrestling skills. How many guys have we ever seen make it through 3 rounds without Randy taking them down. I had heard that Vera’s greco was top-notch and one of MMA’s best kept secrets, but I was still surprised and impressed by his defense in the clinch. BUT, defense isn’t enough to win. He did very little offensively in that position and was not able to escape it.
WTF?
UFC: As The World Turns.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I think its a close fight but I want to see rich beat the old man, hopefully his striking (especially being a southpaw) will be the difference, I think rich is pretty strong and will be able to defend the take downs, although rich had some serious trouble in the clinch against anderson, different clinch game though. Hopefully rich wins and so they finally give him some of the top 5 guys, they’re keeping him on the outskirts of 205 without really giving him a shot
I agree about the outskirts
But the thing is, Rich hasn’t looked confident in at least his last 3 or 4 fights. He’s not confident in himself, and neither are the matchmakers. He’s definitely a marketable guy, but he has to win and be impressive to deserve to be in the mix with the top guys. He destroyed Ken Shamrock and got a lot of recognition for that fight when he came on the scene, deservedly or not. He looked impressive in a few fights, but once Silva crushed him, I think he lost a tremendous amount of status and attending credibility, and, hasn’t done enough to recapture it.
by The real Philo on Mar 13, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
oh come on philo,
He looked GREAT in his win over Hammil, AND Wandy, AND in his loss (tho I thought he WON) to Hendo and got caught early with Vitor!
Rich is the man lol too bad I like BOTH guys because I always pull for Rich!!!
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 13, 2010 9:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
whats up with the new format?
this sucks, color sucks, can’t barely see comments and cant even respond! terrible mania!
just refresh, it will fix itself
i had that problem earlier
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I got it, I was nervous cause BE was same
Im really not a fan of sbnation, they change shit up too much
Kevin.
Hey Kev, I have just recently Got back, I havent talked to you guys in like almost 2 years. Are all the old regulars still here? John,Adam G,Phil,Mex?… Any way, I was gonna see what you thought about this, Could we see a Liddell -Randy 4? If all this Rich vsRany talk is true,if Chuck beats Tito,if Randy beats Franklin. I know its a long shot but like others have pointed out Randy will probably want another shot at the Title.Chuck has laready stated he wants to get aother crack at it. So if it plays out you think there could be a 4th fight.For a title shot?…Just sayin cause both are tight with Dana and Im sure DW wants chuck to go out getting what he wants likewise for randy.Just thought Id get your alls take.
DBG, I can't see it happening. Fight #3 was anything but competitive.
BUT Chuck has been declining at a rampant pace while Randy almost improves with age.
I just think that it would be hard to market Randy/Chuck 4. I for one, would not be all that interested in that fight. Hell, I’d rather see Tito/Chuck 3 and 4 before Chuck/Randy 4
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
the glory days of WWF are long gone!
Its WWE now, get with the times lol :p
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 14, 2010 5:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
how in the f does that sound like something from the wwf.
its not the fucking macho man losing his bitch to hulk hogan . Its a legatimate consept two OLD hall of famers wanting to get therename back in to the title contention.throw em together again and get ratings….. ps spelling is going to be bad in this post, 14 beers in been in the desert for 2 years. figured i needed a drink or 2
i think he means the full thread,lol, and it will always be the wwf......
f**k the world wildlife federation*, give me wrestling story lines instead of panda’s anyday……
by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 14, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
so is this Chuck v Toney? man i would love that
I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.
I don't know...
I see Chuck surprising him with takedowns. GnP to victory and then Toney crying about him not wanting to fight like a man.
has Chuck ever even attempted a takedown in the UFC?
I don’t recall ever seeing that. I know Chuck has good wrestling skills but he’s always used them purely for sprawl and scramble.
Why dont you guys like TUF?
I think its a decent show once a week. If I am busy then I don’t watch but if im home ill definitely tune in.
I like TUF
It’s far from perfect, but as a fan I still enjoy it every week. You can’t deny some quality fighters have come up through the show. The worst parts are the stupid crap at the house that feels a little scripted/forced. Definitely better than Contender ever was, the first season they actually edited the fights with slo-mo and would only show like 1 or 2 min of each round to make one guy look like he was in the fight even when getting his ass kicked.
I'm getting sick of it to be honest
It’s always the same format and some of the fights last year were bloody awful. The show has run it’s course in my opinion, it’s no longer necessary to find new talent and the reality aspect of it is so contrived that it’s getting frustrating to watch.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
great fight card
another solid Canadian card. We need a card in Toronto badly.f in government. Its ok for 2 boxers to beat eachother in the head for 12 rounds but mma is too dangerous????
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