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Report: Rich Franklin replaces Tito Ortiz against Chuck Liddell at UFC 115 in Vancouver

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Former UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin (25-5) has reportedly agreed to return to the light heavyweight division to face Chuck Liddell (21-7) at UFC 115 in Vancouver after Tito Ortiz was forced to withdraw from the June 12 event for undisclosed reasons.

MMAWeekly confirmed the change in opponents based on an initial report by Fighter's Only earlier today.

Speculation had been mounting regarding the inclusion of Ortiz for the upcoming Canadian event after "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" and wife Jenna Jameson continued to post discouraging tweets via their official Twitter accounts.

It's unclear at this time whether or not Ortiz was able to complete his duties as coach on the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11 but "Ace" is expected to take his place opposite "The Iceman" in June.

Franklin has been on the sidelines ever since a first round technical knockout loss to Vitor Belfort at last November's UFC 103 event in Dallas. Despite a narrow victory over Wanderlei Silva at UFC 99, the former school teacher went 1-2 in his 2009 fight campaign after losing a close split decision to Dan Henderson to start the year.

While his star may have faded ever since he was obliterated by current division kingpin Anderson Silva in 2006 (and again in 2007), Franklin is still a top level competitor with good hands and an underrated ground game (Ace has never been submitted).

He should prove to be a much stiffer test for the icy one if they indeed square off this June.

Star-divide

Liddell hasn't competed since a technical knockout loss to Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 97: "Redemption" from the Bell Center in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, back in April 2009. In fact, since his last stoppage over Ortiz, he's only had one victory in five attempts, a gritty unanimous decision win over Wanderlei Silva at UFC 79 in Dec. 2007.

Company president Dana White tried to convince his good friend and big time money-making machine to hang up the gloves, saying he had made a ton of cash and had nothing left to prove. Liddell — who will be 40 years old by the time his Vancouver fight rolls around — was adamant that he's still got some fight left in him.

The two-time TUF coach just wanted a little time to "give his brain a rest" -- and tear up the dance floor on ABC's "Dancing with the Stars."

Now it's back to business for the former light heavyweight champion -- but he should consider himself on borrowed time if he's unable to put forth an impressive performance on June 12.

In addition to Liddell vs. Franklin, UFC 115 is expected to feature a heavyweight mash-up between Mirko Cro Cop and Pat Barry while welterweights Martin Kampmann and Paulo Thiago make their case for 170-pound contendership.

Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for future updates on this still-developing fight card.

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I don't think its medical or injury realted

he’s been quoted as saying “business is business”

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

If it's like that then Screw you Tito!

Haha!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 13, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Tito needs to just go away

and Rich will win

I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it

by PHISH NATION on Mar 13, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

IDK...

I believe if Rish wins it’s only cause Chuck is too far gone.

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!

by Oswald on Mar 13, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

*Rich lol Don’t know this “Rish” guy.

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!

by Oswald on Mar 13, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Dana just TWITTERED that both he adn TIto are cool

and that nothign happened.

Dana also said that it was Couture vs Franklin, NOT LIDDEL?? SO f’d up, So many rumors. Maybe Dana is doing this on purpose and the plan is really to load up agaistn Strikeforce on the 17th. Who knows why there is so much BS flyin>>

by fightfan on Mar 13, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

why

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps it’s been brought to his attention that HE SUCKS. That could significantly impact his future as a fighter.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Who cares - Tito sucks and Chucky is over the hill....

i am bummed they’re holding up franklin since he’s still somewhat viable in teh division. Holding his own against hendo and definitely beating wand despite shady scorecards. I was hoping to watch him tax couture’s ass. Also i’ve said this before but TUF needs to go away or make it fights only without the soap opera- i rather watch dumpy m-1 or no name regional shows than that trash.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 13, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

this might mean ........

Randy vs Toney?

" Im surprised GSP can get his jeans on with all these people clinging to his nuts"- Dan Hardy

by GOLDIGGAH on Mar 13, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Dana wouldn’t yank him off TUF for that.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I read somewhere that he isn’t finishing the show.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

oh ok

what do u think about barry/crocop.i say barry knocks him out.

by scott1 on Mar 13, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur. He’s too fast and technical a striker for Cro Cop at this stage. Six years ago it would be different. Cro Cop’s always looking for that one straight left or head kick, and it ain’t gonna fly against a guy with Barry’s pedigree. If not a KO he’ll outpoint him. Wicked fight though.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

strikers paradise!

id love barry to cut to 205.if he got some solid tdd hed be very dangerous.hes just too small for hw but aslong as they keep him away from wrestlers theres some interesting match ups.jds vs barry would be a cracker.

by scott1 on Mar 13, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

JDS would maul Barry imo, too big and a more powerful striker

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 13, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s too big. He also probably has a ground game he can fall back on, unlike Barry. You can’t train with the Nogs and not learn how to grapple.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Cro Cop still has the same issues....

and will always be exploited by a competent striker. Barry can’t be as physical with him as JDS in the clinch but it’s gonna be cool to see leg kick exchanges. Let’s see if hippolyte can teach him new tricks hell he was a way better kickboxer than barry in his best days by a long margin.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 13, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great analysis as usual, NNR.

I think Cro Cop is pretty set in his ways at this point. I expect an exciting fight though. The first few minutes, when Cro Cop has full power and speed on his shots will be interesting.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed about the early rounds...

Barry isn’t an explosive fighter at least in teh sense that we think about in a striker of his quality. Cro Cop though shot still has a speed advantage which might mask his technical deficiencies until he tires or mentally quits ( though i never bought into his mental weakness)

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 13, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

can he even cut down that much

Im only asking because he has sum huge legs and if he cut down he might lose his edge .

" Im surprised GSP can get his jeans on with all these people clinging to his nuts"- Dan Hardy

by GOLDIGGAH on Mar 13, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Cro Cop for the Win.

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 13, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

2005 called. They want their fighter back.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, I love Cro Cop. Always been a big fan. Just keeping it real.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what it is.

something about their relationship and kids.

there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.

by RoBerto. on Mar 13, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s it got to do with getting whooped by Chuck? I’ve had relationships fall apart, too. I still showed up for work in the morning. Just reinforces what a bitch Pumpkinhead is.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know something bad probably happened, maybe he’s going to jail lol.

there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.

by RoBerto. on Mar 13, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe the doctors have told him his head isnt gonna stop growing and dana has no plans of extending the width of the cage door

by scott1 on Mar 13, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL @ Mrs. Big Vagina. What a tragedy if true.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Tragedy? They had a 50/50 shot from the get-go, probably less since they are "celebs". I am hoping for sarcasm in this case JJ.

The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 13, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you won’t be disappointed, Ulf.

Haha. You are new, aintcha.

:-)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know something bad probably happened, maybe he’s going to jail lol.

Maybe he was arrested for impersonating a fighter.

LOL scott.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 13, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m off to get my miles in for the day. Then it’s booze, bongs and Pacman time.

Later boys.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody know who is on the undercard for the Pacman fight?

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 13, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

There's an undercard?? (only slightly sarcastic)

The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Mar 13, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The undercard’s pretty lame in terms of name value, I confess. They should be pretty good action fights, though.

That Gomez tard form the Contender is fighting (again), and David Diaz is taking on Soto in what will be a good match up between guys who are top ten in their division.

Apparently they’re putting together a good undercard for Mayweather/Mosley.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That'll be a first.

That’s one huge problem in boxing, they put on some of the crappiest undercards for a big PPV event. I don’t remember the last time I actually saw a full boxing card because of that.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 13, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

JJ

The jerk store called…lol…j/k

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

+adds Mac to shit list+

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Tito’s an alchoholic. LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

a win over liddell is still a big win for Franklin, and likewise a win over Franklin is big for Liddell

i’ve wanted to see this fight since Rich went back up to LHW. Awesome fight I think. I can’t wait.

My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim

Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez

by Synyster_08 on Mar 13, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i prefer this fight anyway.

"...they called me a rapist and a recluse; i'm not a recluse" - mike tyson.

by mmafigjam on Mar 13, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

NNR: my thoughts exactly! WHO CARES!!!! No Tito, is always good news.

doubt Tito really wanted to get Ko’ed again any way!

What a waste of Rich’s time!

by John G. on Mar 13, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I care.

there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.

by RoBerto. on Mar 13, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

F'n rights RoB!!!...Tito fan club buddy!! Remember our slogan...

Loyalty before Reality

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

loyalty before reality

Truest slogan ever! Lmao

-This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

by PSYQO78 on Mar 13, 2010 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

damn right!

Love you too Giampaolo but as you so often say, you do not turn your back on your boys and jump from fighter to fighter just because they start losing.

there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.

by RoBerto. on Mar 13, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not about “turning your back”. You guys aren’t engaged. It’s about being able to view their abilities and personalities with an ounce of objectivity.

You know I’m a huge Fedor fan. I think he’s lost a step. It doesn’s mean I don’t still love Fed Feds. It means I think he’s lost a step.

Man, the shit I took last year for daring to point out that Wand and Nog had considerably slowed down since their Pride days…

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s about being able to view their abilities and personalities with an ounce of objectivity.

My best quality as a fan.

there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.

by RoBerto. on Mar 13, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

roberto: I agree, but tito isnt a real fighter so those principles dont apply!

brainwashed people like you are the reason that bum still main events $45 UFC ppv’s!!!!

by John G. on Mar 14, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

AT least Franklin vs.Chuck has a chance at being competitive. Tito/Chuck 3 had absolutely ZERO to offer! except the pure joy of seeing Tito punched in the mouth!

If Liddell isnt completly washed up, it can be a quality fight. Not to mention that Franklin has never been really known for KO power….so Chucky poo could make it a scrap!

Tito on the other hand should be fighting the likes of Mark Coleman!

by John G. on Mar 13, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He metioned it on the Rachelle thread.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless Chuck has purchased a time machine recently, Franklin will pick him apart. The only good news for Chuck is that Franklin like to stand up… so he has that going for him.

Dana’s plan of using a totally washed-up Tito for ratings has backfired. Another wasted season of TUF. Past time to pull the plug on that show. Can’t wait to hear Tito’s reason for being a bitch. I doubrt it’s injury, the fight is over four months away.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

jj we cool? i was twisted last night man

i went on the thread earlier to read what i said(i cant remember shit) lol and it looks like a lot of post have been deleted tkkpal said the same

by scott1 on Mar 13, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, we cool brah. I think Pretty Boy might have got the axe yesterday, ’cause every comment that he was linked to got deleted. Kinda sucks, there were some good convos going.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i enjoyed it

lights outs getting the comments ill give him that

by scott1 on Mar 13, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

What happened, what did pretty boy say, knew he must of had something to do with it...lol

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 13, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know. Don’t care.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

It’s the second time people on here tell me PB is gone now only to see him pop back up and ruin yet another thread. He’s already had way too much attention. And yes there were some good convos going.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Mar 13, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

"RUNS TOOOO THE HILLS!! !! RUN FOOOOR YOOOUR LIIIIIIFE!!

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Maiden rocks. Fuckin’ longhair.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

War Iron Maiden

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 13, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have long hair

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 14, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair play I did see you already said this

by eagzy on Mar 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Undisclosed Reasons

AKA not medical but indeed business. What a crock of sh!t. This actually interests me more than Liddell and Tito but that is just weak sauce from Tito.
Also, Rich looks very drunk and like it was taken post bar fight in this picture lol.

by Edgecrusher71 on Mar 13, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

to be honest

this will probably be a much better fight

by Bill Maher on Mar 13, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy news!

I hope Tito is okay.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 13, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

So do you think tito finally remembered what happened the last two time he fought chuck.
Anyway this is a much better matchup, would probably give the advantage to franklin but at least these two guys haven’t fought before. Would love to see chuck with another big win before he retires

by eagzy on Mar 13, 2010 1:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Franklin will knock him cold… Keep talking Tito.

by OXYGENgone on Mar 13, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

No idea why this thought has come to me but I could see Tito next match against James toney? What you think?

by eagzy on Mar 13, 2010 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wouldn't that be cool? reall though, I'd watch that...the mouth running would be legendary

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

although it can't be true...he couldn't finish TUF apparently...a change of opponent wouldn't make him leave the show

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Toney already did mention him as someone he would like to fight, they hype for the fight would certainly be there. And if Dana wants to proove a point then I woul imagine tito is capable of taking him down and pounding him out

by eagzy on Mar 13, 2010 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I can definitely see that happening, but i don’t think they would just scrap the season finale fight for it…though a third match between Tito and Chuck was never that appealing to begin with.

Old enough to know better, young enough to enjoy it...

by DrunkenStyle on Mar 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Better fight.

A lot more excited about this fight than tito v chuck 3. So are we about to have another season of TUF where the coaches think they’re fighting but aren’t? Has the tito/chuck TUF show already start taping?

In fighting and everyday life you should be determined, though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness, yet not recklessly; your spirit settled, yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak, and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.

by Steve. A. on Mar 13, 2010 1:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Typical Tito

All hype! Now it will basically be a waste to watch the upcoming season of TUF (though i wasn’t eagerly awaiting it to begin with). This is terrible for the UFC as they just had to deal with Rampage and Rashad not fighting at the end of last season, now this. Knowing Tito, he is either injured or bitchin about some favoritism crap…at least we get a better fight from it with Rich stepping up.

Old enough to know better, young enough to enjoy it...

by DrunkenStyle on Mar 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I’d rather have seen Chuck smash Tito’s face, but this will probably be a better fight.

by Tuff.Gong on Mar 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Tito's a fuckin dick he always has been

it wasn’t long ago Dana said he was out of the Tito business cause of his attitude towards fights at times its like he doesn’t want to fight. then Tito came back saying he was out cause of some shoulder injury like we’d all forgot what a nob jockey he was

by evilgumbo on Mar 13, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Decent Match Up for Chuck

The fact that Franklin has never laid out a fighter with one punch other than the overmatched Nate Quarry bodes well for Chuck. Doesn’t mean Franklin isn’t going to grind out a victory, but at least Liddell is safe from getting KO’d again, IMO. And you have to give Chuck at least a 25% chance of managing to catch Franklin with a big strike and finishing him like Vitor Belfort did.

Good, potentially winnable fight for Liddell, much like Forrest Griffin. As long as he doesn’t face guys with one punch KO power, Chuck can still be competitive.

by revjames on Mar 13, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

good post this was exactly what i was thinking.

I like this fight better! Thanks for being a bitch tito!

by NateDogg77 on Mar 13, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

oh man

i like both fighters, But chuck is going to lose

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 13, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Bad news for chuck, Tito would of been an easy W for him.

by Jared1984 on Mar 13, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Chuck doesn't need an easy win...

He needs to beat a quailty opponet if he wants to be taken seriously.

by BNF on Mar 13, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I really doubt Chuck’s seriously looking to get back into title contention. It’s just something a proud fighter has to say.

He’s looking to end his career on his own terms. Not all glazed over staring up at the lights.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember a recent quote from Chuck where he mentioned getting another title shot.

As a past great champion it is probably very hard to let that go. Although I would love to see it.

by BNF on Mar 13, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he always mentions another shot or "getting my title back"....does he really think that?

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 13, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

this is good news

i couldnt care less about seeing chuck whoop tito again, this fight actually interests me a little.

by panthro on Mar 13, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

i heard

it will take place on april 17th to counter the sf card………

Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next

by eagleswhat1 on Mar 13, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

looking forward to this more as there is more danger for Chuck so we will see what he can do if he wants to keep fighting.

I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.

by Tonyuk on Mar 13, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

If he wants to prove he belongs he needs to beat a quality opponent.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 13, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Tito has been eating Oxycontin like M&Ms for psat 2 years??

They stay in urine tests for 3-5 days…..maybe a week at the latest. So mybe that was his reason for his poor performance against Forrest. And if gets a steady supply from a doctor, it is easy to hide. May he was able to get away from them for a few days….and is heavily addicted and REFUSED to quit taking them…because cracked skulls do hurt like a mother. Therefore Dana said you can have a career or you can have pills???

by fightfan on Mar 13, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

At least we know chucks not guna get knock the f#ck out this fight!

Franklin might pick him apart but I hope chuck lands a 1 punch ko. Franklin survived with Wand & Hendog so idk if chuck can do in his 1st fight back after a long ass lay off! Either way WAR ICEMAN!! I hope he wins.

by d*locc on Mar 13, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

I personally have no interest in this fight.

Both are at the end of their careers.

@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner

by _Felix_ on Mar 13, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Rich has a few more good fights in him. Chuck, not so much.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. I wonder how DW will spin this to the UFC's advantage?

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Mar 13, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Returning HOF, comparison with randy,bla blah, legacy will always be intact, new dedication...

And franklin – beating legend, contendership into top 10 at LHW (I know lol, dana will go to that or top 5), will be in the proverbial mix.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 13, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

he might get layed out here.

Chuck is slow and his chin is gone. But then again power is the last thing to go so you never know. Sucks for Franklin though – no direction in the division. Dana literally ruined his career because he’s such a company boy.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 13, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Rich does not have 1 punch KO power.

That is highly unlikely. Rich may outpoint with technical striking, but I got Chucky by TKO.

by BNF on Mar 13, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

True but..if you look at his last fight...

that shogun hit was far from a correct punch and didn’t seem to have power in it. he lept forward and closelined him. From his positions it’s hard to imagine his body mechanic generating any kind of considerable KO power. Yet it put chuck down clean. And really shogun was never a 1 killshot kinda guy either. Franklin is much cleaner in his striking so i expect a lot more from franklin other than a UD.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 13, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice for Franklin

He will finally get another KO on his record

by Lester The Pimp on Mar 13, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

Great news

Way more excited for this matchup. What the hell happened to Tito?! I can´t wait to hear why he couldn´t fight Chuck. Does anyone know if it´s confirmed that Tito had to leave TUF and couldn´t finish filming?

by IceCold on Mar 13, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

so we know we got Rich vs Chuck in june

 now i want to know about what went down with Tito. It has to be his back.

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 13, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

I think it’s his balls. As in, he doesn’t have any.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Could care less. Irrelevant fight and we all know it.

by DJF on Mar 13, 2010 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

How much less could you care?? You care alot as it stands is it???

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Mar 13, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Me like this bout!

This will be a stand up slug fest. Hard to pick a winner but fun fight nevertheless. Hope the rest of the fights in the card are as stacked as UFC 111 and Versus

by Apocacryptic on Mar 13, 2010 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

divorce maybe?

Doesn’t sound like an injury if he says he needs to focus on his fight career. Jenna mentioning the babies makes me think it is a divorce.

by Ognitinoc on Mar 13, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

HIV.

Jenna finally Gave him.the Hiv!Or he has a nasty out break of the herps

by DBG on Mar 13, 2010 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Dana white just tweeted that this story is false…Franklin is fightin couture not chuck

by hehehe hahaha on Mar 13, 2010 5:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Couture vs. Franklin

Dana’s Twitter says it is now Couture and Franklin NOT Chuck.

by Gogo121 on Mar 13, 2010 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

he also said

“Nothing happened to tito. Tito and I are cool.”

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 13, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

no clue

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 13, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I tweeted like 4 times to Dana

asking him to fill us loyal fans in, so that the “shitsites” as Dana puts them, will stop spreading false shit!!

It sucks that we had to be put through that Kimbo coming back week after week after week. And, now we got Tito and possible career ending shit, and dropping out of TUF, and NOT fighting Chuck….but no one can say anything that is true.

Other than Tito and Dana are cool AND IT is Couture vs Franklin….NOT Liddell.

by fightfan on Mar 13, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

im lost

i liked that fight when i first read it. too bad

by ElStIkO on Mar 13, 2010 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

chuck just posted 20 mins. ago it was Randy vs Rich not himself.

I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett

"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.

by ppwwpp on Mar 13, 2010 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

dana too has confirmed this

I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett

"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.

by ppwwpp on Mar 13, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I love it how ALL these other sites(NOT HERE)

have been running with Chuck vs Franklin on the 17th……THEN
UPDATED….NOT on the 17th. UFC 115 Chuck vs Franklin…..THEN
NOW it seems that NONE of that INFO from “inside and creditable” sources were correct.

How can it be that so many sites(mmaj***ie), other, other) haves so called sources that they say are credible, but be far from the truth. I wouldnt doubt if Tito leaving TUF is also FALSE.

Fuck this sucks

by fightfan on Mar 13, 2010 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

Fedor vs. Lesnar at UFC 117.

Just reported at mmahorsehit.com.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesse

Jesse,

You should really learn to confirm your “stories” before you publish.

Thanks

by justbleed9999 on Mar 13, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

This was reported everywhere. It’s not Jesse’s fault. If he doesn’t report the latest news everyone will jump on Mania for missing the boat.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Mar 13, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Rumor

OK, so if a rumor is reported “everywhere” (which this one was NOT) that makes it OK to push a rumor forward? That’s absurd.

by justbleed9999 on Mar 14, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

why do you need 4 9's after your name?

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 14, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Day after tomorrow

OK, so does anybody really know whats going on? Dana said stuff, tito said stuff, rich agrees to both, chuck agrees to both? This is very eventful! I wonder if any of them have a stomache problem, and their waiting for a triumphant return!

by ong_bak2bak on Mar 14, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Rich/Chuck/Couture

Whatever the combination, it should be a good fight. I just hate to see it because I like all and will be rooting for both.

by Lydia Oldham on Mar 29, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  


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