Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson: 'Pride FC tournaments were fixed'
by James Kimball on Mar 11, 2010 9:41 PM EST
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"The UFC treats me better than Pride. I don't know what their [PRIDE] problem was but they wouldn't promote me at all, they cheated me out of money from dolls and t-shirts, not paying me... when my contract was up and we were negotiating and I wanted more money and they were telling me ‘oh, but you're a nobody.' This was after I had fought in the Grand Prix and beat Igor Vovchanchyn. Even after I went to that K-1 fight and represented them in K-1, they were mad I won that K-1 fight! Just stuff like that... Igor Vovchanchyn, I got two weeks notice [for the fight]. Ninja, two weeks notice. It was bad. The tournaments were fixed. They said they drew numbers from a hat. It was all set up for Wanderlei to win. It was really bad. Even in some fights they would stand you up when you were winning, different stuff like that."
Former Pride FC star and UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton Jackson talked to Fighters Only Magazine about the not-so-good old days of the Japan based mixed martial arts promotion. "Rampage" implies some pretty serious wrongdoings on the part of Pride, including cheating him out of money and fixing fights. Of course, this isn't the first time we've heard about certain questionable practices employed by the folks in the "land of the rising sun." So, is this just "Rampage" being "Rampage," or are there some legitimate gripes to be had on behalf of Jackson and other Pride FC veterans?
Props to MMMmania.com reader "John G." for the assist
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This is shit we already heard B4
An Heath Harring said something similuar to this last month about the U.F.C.
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Mar 11, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
These shit gates have been opened and closed many times before!
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Mar 11, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Shitgates?
1. We don’t need any more gates lol. I actually like the “gate” stuff I just know some people are irritated by it.
2. I think that is term Jim Lahey used on Trailer Park boys and it made me laugh… AGAIN!
by Edgecrusher71 on Mar 11, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
lol edge
if people are irritated about it they can talk to me about it im a nice guy and if it bothers a mania brother on here i would stop. But untill then when i think the shit wins are coming i will send a warning about the shit gates that may be about to open. :)
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
and usally i only use it when there is a
BJ – GSP fight about to go down
Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv
it wont matter soon
rashad is going to send rampage into the shit abyss
"Theres only two things you need to know about me: I spin more rhymes than a lazy susan, and im innocent until my guilt is proven"
by dangerdunphy on Mar 12, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
i knew it
it was 2 good 2 b true for gomi to be kicking ass in pride then comes to the US and gets his ass handed by Diaz…….as for rampage the dudes done his weight class is full of hungry sharks that would mawl his ass im a fan of rampage but hes done
by AMERICAN_SON on Mar 12, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
So you’re saying Ralph Gracie, Crazy Horse Bennet, Pulver, Kawajiri and Sakurai all took dives? OK dude. And the Diaz fight happened in Pride. If it was fixed it was fixed, what difference does it make if the fight happened in the US?
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 12, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with JJ but still question the validity of Pride...namely, Wandy's streak
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
zzzzzzzzz
What’d they use special effects when he got cut/swollen against Hendo, CC, Metzger? They use trick photography when a guy gets dropped unconscious? How do you fake this stuff???? His streak is BS, set up garbage but his losses are legit right? Come on…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 12, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm out, can tell today is already a sh*tty day to post..
My boy Wand can’t catch a break lately
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Mar 12, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
your not going anywhere..its only 8am for fuck sakes....
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
go make your picks grumpy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Letting OD have it early. Ease up on him, Mac. LOL
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
how can someone so dominant become so average so quickly
I’m not saying there were dives or pre-determined outcomes but maybe easier opponents for the favorites….
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
he definitely used performance enhancing drugs, his aggression and cardio was insane.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Definitely used performance enhancing drugs?
There is no proof that anyone that has fought over in Japan uses performance enhancing drugs. Just because it looks like they might…doesn’t mean that they do…that’s just ridiculous logic.
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Mar 12, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
yes there is, Josh Barnett.
I’m not using logic, i’m being realistic, there are fighters in the UFC who does it.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
it's like that in all competitive physical sports.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Have to agree RoB, it probably is the only explanation, if were on the subject...
As much as I hate to say it, it is probably true for most former Pride fighters, even Cro Cop. How can these guys go from what they were in the Ring, to what we see in the Cage, sometimes it beggars belief when you see Wand or CC for example in the UFC and your screaming at the TV, “PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER!!…..FINISH HIM FOR CHRIST SAKE!!” and they just don’t have the same killer instinct or whatever they had in their system in Pride. You can even see in Wands frame in current fights or pics that he is a shadow of his former self, I know he is down weight classes and surgery etc but how can you go from being the killers they were??
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
And Lesnar juiced in the WWE. Point proven.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
I hope that was sarcasm
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I seriously believe that Lesnar juiced in the WWF, they all do.
It pains me to say it, but that is how I’ve always felt.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
He was huge back then.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
and he wasn't huge here?
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
hang on a second
I’ve confused myself, are you saying Wandy juiced?
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Wand(and a lot of Pride guys) juiced in Japan
And Brock juiced in WWF.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
and the evidence to suggest that is where?
about the pride fighters I mean.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I love wandy...
but, in his first fight with chuck he DID look smaller and less aggressive, he also delayed the fight after coming back from japan till the december of that year, maybe to let his system clear out? Who knows for sure, anything’s possible.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Just watch some of the backstage shit from Pride.
Tell me something hasn’t changed about Wand from that time.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
That was to SFK
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
alot has changed
he is older, has been knocked out a few more times, fighting in a different country, different environment, different crowd, different organization, up until recently, different training partners, different camp. it’s not just the drugs testing system that changed when he went to the states
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
He's been knocked out
and punched in the head a few more times than most? Would slow me down.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
right.
they are atleast testing their fighters in the UFC, not doing it in Japan is unacceptable.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
agreed
but I won’t accept the fact that they weren’t tested as proof that they used. That’s rediculous.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
OK. I won't argue with you over this SFK
But when they test the way they did in Japan it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
It's pretty hard to get proof of roiding when the tests they ran were a joke.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
yer but I don't see how
a poor testing system is proof of steroid use…
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
well, i still have strong opinions that most likely are correct.
Not testing is saying go ahead and do it, and in the business of MMA where wild ppl compete and where pain is something they go through every day it’s pretty safe to say many fighters did it.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
But at the end of the day
it’s a guess, maybe an informed one, but a guess nonetheless.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
agreed shins
no proof either way
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
No proof that OJ Simpson did it either.
And no proof that Micheal Jackson touched little boys, or that Micheal Vick ever killed a dog. Are they all innocent as well? Some times it is best to believe what your eyes see.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Did you see any of that really?
No. You saw T.V. and newspapers, biggest bullshit ever. When Haiti got hit by that earthquake, the first newspaper headline i read was 500,000 dead. It was what, 50,000. They just added a zero for panic effect.
Bill cosby got accused too right after michael, did u know that? People jumping on the Peado bandwagon.
The world is full of people adding zeros…
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
my eyes see speculation
they don’t see anybody close to the source saying anything, you think that if it really was/is that rampant in Japan atleast one guy would have cashed in on the scandal by now? like Jose Canseco did
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
They don't shoot the roids five minutes before a fight
It was most likely done outside of the arena. I doubt a team mate would turn another team mate in. You didn’t think I meant they were doing the needles right before their entrance music came on did you? Like I said, when a kid comes in and gives you a paper cup and says he will be back in an hour for you sample, it’s not too hard to cheat.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
They take hair samples and blood samples also bro.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
In Japan? LOL
You are extremely misinformed if you believe any of that.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
They did no drugs tests in pride in japan actually. NONE.
What i’m saying is about drugs tests in general.
And what are you trying to say, that you know the ins and outs of the japanese drug testing system? lmao
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Obviously more than you. They did piss tests, genious.
You should watch more of these vids on here, or read once in a while. They piss tested, only the regulations were so weak that you tested by yourself. No commission officials around to make sure it was YOU pissing in that cup and not your trainer.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
I know I spelt genius wrong, it is my way of saying you aren't too bright.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Glad you picked up on that.
Please, show me where you read this, enlighted me.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Where I read about the piss tests?
Shit, I have the worst memory for stuff like that. Ummm…It wasn’t on here it was in a book. I will have to get back to you when I get home and find the book again. I’m not lying I just have the worst memory in the world. It was a book about this reporter who went to train in Thailand, Japan and the US. He was there with Big Nog for his last fight against Fedor. Since he isn’t a fighter he gave a very accurate and open discription of what goes on behind the curtain in PRIDE. I will have to get back to you with the title, unless anyone else has read the book as well??
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
I don't think your lying
i just want to read it. ALSO, PRIDE had no POST fight tests. The UFC does, but only in high risk cases. Like, Mir has been caught out before, so he gets tested after fights too. Not all fighters get tested like that.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
just because it's not hard to doesn't mean everyone did
It’d be easy for me to steal a sandwich from the deli for my lunch, they keep them right by the door, no security, no CCTV. but I don’t
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't say everyone. I said Wand and a few select others.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
Would stealing a sandwich help you earn more?
Or would it make you customers like you more? Or could you lose your job if you didn’t steal that sandwich? Dumb analogy.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
The point of the analogy is obviously
that not everyone cheats and steals. To read into any simple analogy so heavily is not just pointless, its ridiculous. What do you want? A carefully contrived story, perfectly conceived on the spot with no room for anything else? Come on jay.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I think SFK can speak for himself, don't think he needs you to clarify for him.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
I think this is a free forum of discussion.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
calm down ladies
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
no but It'd keep the money in my pocket in the first place
Dude, you think Wand roided on the grounds that he seems different to you now than in pride. As much as that is a truly compelling case, I agree that he’s different now, but there are a hell of a lot more factors to explain that then just the drug testing system. lets just agree to disagree here.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I wanted to skip the subject from the start.
It’s an old argument with no winners. Some guys will never admit their fave fighters are/were cheaters.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
There's nothing
to admit/answer to other than speculation from guys on blogs… people have speculated at some point about most big name fighters cheating in some way or another. GSP for instance, greasing/roids, there is no actual proper evidence to suggest either, but a hell of a lot of speculation about being slippery and putting on muscle mass. you admitting anything?
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Never! Just like a Wand fan will never admit he has done juice. LOL
I think Phil Nurse did cheat in that BJ fight, did GSP know what was going on? Probably.
From what ANS says, greasing isn’t as rare as we like to think. It sucks, but I’m not surprised.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
I'm a wand fan, i think he juiced.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Thank you.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
You mentioned GSP...SHIT!!!!!
Look out…
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Here comes the Canadians.
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
lol probably heard my fingers hit the keys
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
haha...canseco...
canseco vs walker…
walker for the W by butt shimmy!
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
there are still big problems in the world of sports with athletes who cheat, even where they test hard.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Agreed
Look what it can do, josh barnett was the straw that broke the camels back in M-1.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
M1-Josh Barnett? I don't get it?
You mean Affliction?
canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania
the affliction grim reaper lol
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Scythed it bruv!
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
My bad, your right, thats what i meant.
Yeah, i just had fedor on the brain (he owns part of M-1 and all that
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I agree...but for different reasons
Vinny Mac has those wrestlers working 360 days outta the year…and they get injured just as much as regular athletes…
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Mar 12, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Your right, i've heard more actually,
they leap off of stuff and through tables and all that jumping around, i remember that one guy died after trying to rope down from the ceiling. Most pro wrestlers turned MMA say that they sustained more injuries before.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
you're telling me that doesn't happen in the UFC?
or any pro combat sport for that matter? you think Forrest Griffin wasn’t hand picked for andy to fuck up? You think Bisping hasn’t had an easy road? I don’t think you can criticize pride for doing the same thing that pro fight promoters have been doing since I can remember. I guess it might be different with tournaments, but not all that much. If the UFC set up a LHW tournament you really think that they’d leave it to chance whether Machida/Shogun/Rashad had to fight one another in the first round?
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
I AGREE WITH U
SFK what ppl dont relize is they fed bisping scrubs ppl that they new he could beat. but they really didn’t do him any favs i mean look at who he’s beatin vs who hes lost 2. and he’s 0-3 against top fighters rashad,hendo,& now wandy. they didnt do him justice by given him scrubs all the time bcause when he got n their with real fighters he got his ass kicked.
by titonash23 on Mar 12, 2010 9:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is common knowledge.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
Yup
The standing up stuff really pisses me off. Perfect example of it nowadays…Aoki/Hansen comes to mind. Clear favoritism.
There are definitely truths to what Whaampage is saying, but at this point he’s lost so much credibility with me that I don’t give a shit. Pride may have fucked him in some ways, but they also built his career and gave him unfettered access to submissive Japanese gash.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 12, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Rampage is done
Hey Rampage what was your excuse when Wandy ko’d u both times… when u guys had the same amount of time to prepare…they didnt want to pay u becuase ur annoying
what's your problem? your opinion does not change what Pride did.
there's still something so unifying about sport in it's purest form, when athletes rise above themselves and touch greatness and in doing so remind us all that we also have greatness inside of us.
lmao so tru
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Mar 11, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Your opinion doesn't change that Wand beat him like a rented mule
then lynched him through the ring ropes
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 12, 2010 4:41 AM EST up reply actions
that was truly horrible to see, I thought Page was dead...
hanging limp through the ropes with blood pooring from his face and his blood all over Wanderlei’s knees. Horrible shit man.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Mar 12, 2010 4:55 AM EST up reply actions
Funny how Rampage changes his tune about the UFC
since they bought him a car to potentially go apeshit in again.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
emmm
You getting knocked the F out twice by wandi was a setup? sometimes nothing one can say really matters when the other person is dumb as a door knob, this would be the case.
exactly, page had 2 oppertunities to beat the guy who was "set up to win"
and was destroyed both times…thats like babalu saying “chuck was set up to be the ufc champ”
he had two chances to beat the “set up guy” and failed miserably….hes trying to demeen wandy’s victories when he himself was humiliated….you cant take away the merits of a guys victories when he is running through people like a buzzsaw…especially when you’re one of them…
now if pride never allowed the 2 of them to fight then maybe he would have a valid argument…like saying “they were too afraid to let him face me because they were afraid i would beat their company boy so they kept us apart the entire time i was there”
but this is just bitter spatter from a bitter guy
my dream fight would have to be Brock Lesnar vs Jake Shields...and before the fight theres a video of jake slapping brock's wife...then id like to see shields try to gay porn a win over brock using his butt sex merry-go-round tactics...the massacre that would take place would be the greatest thing ever televised...every limb jake has would look like corey hill's leg...god i hate jake shields
by HellaHectic on Mar 11, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think what he means is the bracketting
He’s saying the favorite fighters were given easier matches in the bracketing so they could get to the finals more easily and be fresher for the final match.
Look John! They gave you props! Does this mean you’re calling off your one-man war on Mania? I hope not, it should be good entertainment.
As for Rampage, maybe he’s been screwing UFC fans over for the past year in a subconscious attempt to avenge himself against Pride.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
If u knew about MMA then u knew of Rampage Jackson
unless u havent been a fan of the sport that long.
an Pride got highlight video’s of his slams how wuz he a nobody?
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Mar 11, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage had already beaten 3 UFC champs in PRIDE
He became instantly famous in his PRIDE debut fight when he slammed uber-popular Sakuraba 6 or 7 times before losing that fight
He KO’d UFC posterboy Chuck Liddell
He had also KOd UFC HW Champ Randleman and beat
UFC middleweight champ Bustamante
plus his all-time-hightlight-reel slam of Arona
and his win over then-juggernaut Vovchanchyn.
THANK YOU
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Mar 12, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I watched the whole interview
He just said what’s been said before really—about PRIDE treating some fighters better than others is all. He also said good things about PRIDE and that he misses it. Alos gave his xbox Live gamertag. haha
hard for a 'tard
Yeah, reporting the good things he said wouldn’t get as many hits. No sense letting the truth get in the way of a little sensationalism!
Right James?
;-)
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 11, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
But hey, there's no such thing as bad pub.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Tell that to Michael Richards.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 11, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hilarious
Oh well so much for Rampage preferring Pride to the UFC. He makes some fair points as Pride were biased towards their favourites and there were some crooked goings on there, though it’s funny that Rampage ignored the fact that he was gifted a decision against Ninja. I’ve never seen a decision so bad that it made the loser cry or the winner concede defeat and actually attempt to give back his trophy. Oh well, at least this gives me some hope that Rampage has gotten his act together and him and the UFC can at least continue on amicable terms for now, though he’s so volatile you never know with Rampage.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Didn't this focker say the UFC treated him like shit not to long ago?
WTF is up with you Rampage? This shit is getting old fast!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
He's bipolar.
but don’t tell him I said that! He’s from my neighborhood and might be able to find my house.
but Dana did treat him like shit
Dana treated him like a king when he came to the UFC and even treated him well after he lost his belt and went a little nuts. But the minute Rampage made a choice to do something without The Fuhrer’s say so, Dana completely turned his back on him and slaughtered him in the press. And the fans were even worse. As if any of us wouldn’t take a month off our day job to be in a big-budget movie with Jessica Biel and Qi Gon Jin!
It would not
surprize me if its the thruth.all rampage did was say out loud what ppl had been thinking 4 years.Would it really b that much of a surprize that fights were fix. And remember b 4 ufc bought pride their were rumors of pride being involed n organized crime. Im not sayin that rampage isn’t being bitter towards pride im just sayin it wouldn’t shock me 1 bit if it turned out 2 b true.
by titonash23 on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
But if it was so bad why stay there for 5 years or so.
Something must have kept him there for so long, was it just the women? Howevere, Pride officials saying that he was a nobody is a bunch of crap!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I don't think he's saying the FIGHTS were fixed
he’s saying the bracketing of the tournaments was intended to give some fighters an easier road and that the refs were biased. No surprise there. Actually, I don’t even blame them on the bracketing thing to some degree. You don’t want your top guys facing each other in the first rounds of the tournament because then the finals ends up being a mismatch and not as exciting as the earlier rounds
sucking thru a straw a soon
$Rampage is thinking about his next pay check again!!
Rampage is back peddling now and will enter full suck up mode because he know aside from landing another movie role he needs his UFC contract extended and with his limited skill set nobody can pay him more that the UFC. dollar dollar bills ya’ll
FUCK YES!!! - was my reaction to the announcement of UFC 110 in Australia. Now I get to live my dream of watching the big show live!!
YES THAT MAY
B true ego cause rampage aint as stupid as he looks.He nose damned well that their is no other org that can even come close 2 paying what the ufc pays. and he is still marketable.
by titonash23 on Mar 11, 2010 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cry baby is all i can say
He bitched about the UFC and bitches about Pride its no ones fault that he got his ass whooped in PRIDE and he wasnt even top 3 in his division at least in the UFC he got to hold a title which he lost to Forrest of all people….Bitch moan cry Rampage should just retire from MMA completely and go FAIL at acting some more!
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
abit harsh
The Rampage that competed in Pride was right up there with the best considering the roster of fighters Pride had established. So what if Rampage lost to Wandi who didn’t lose to Wandi back then. They were some of the all time best fights in Pride.
I think a lot of people posting how crap Rampage was or is in terms of ranking should actually look at his career record.
IMO Page is a super one dimentional fighter now and half the athlete he was in Pride and requires a serious change in attitude towards training in MMA if he think he stands any chance with Machida or Shogun (probably more chance with Shogun who’s willing to exchange blows)
Also Page has been in some battles from a young age, perhaps he’s just mental finished.
FUCK YES!!! - was my reaction to the announcement of UFC 110 in Australia. Now I get to live my dream of watching the big show live!!
FUCK U BUMPAGE Jackson!!!
This fucking piece of shit gets a free pass 2 the pride tourny after getting his ass beat by Murillo ninja. Any1 who duznt believe watch that fight! He had every chance 2 be the #1 fighter in pride & came up short everytime! How is that prides fault? Wand was the fucking man in pride & guess wut?! HE EARNED IT!!! Bumpage got a title shot after beating Marvin Eastman R U fucking kidding me?! Y the fuck U still crying about pride dumb ass! Go fuck yurself Bumpage I hope Rashad beats the shit out of yur punk ass!
by d*locc on Mar 11, 2010 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Fine, but stop beating around the bush. How do you really feel?
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 11, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
he got the title shot cause he'd already KO'd Chuck before
and the UFC was desperate for marketable opponents for Chuck cause he’d already cleaned out the division and rematched all the best guys. Rampage was his only unavenged loss. It wouldn’t have made sense for the UFC to make Page fight other fights and risk losing his marketability against Chuck.
i can't stand these quotes.
they are always taken out of context. mmamania purposefully misrepresents the quotes by withholding context to drum up drama. the full quotes can be found on other websites.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 12, 2010 12:48 AM EST reply actions
Hello all. I am brand spankig new to this site. I am way past my fighting prime…I used to work BJJ with Pedro Sauer…..but am now just a fan…..Love the posts
by Juggernaut11 on Mar 12, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
Are you new to the internet, or were you just too lazy to click the link for the full interview?
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
more like a time issue p-dub
mmamania is always misrepresenting quotes to gin up post discussions. a quote out of context can make it seem more than what it really is. you may have time to stroll around the internet, but i don’t.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 16, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Japan doesn't promote black athletes
bold, but true. Call it racist, call it what you like. There are tons of black baseball players in Japan, and all the billboards/ads are of asian players.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
What??? Surely they aren’t putting Japanese baseball players on billboards in Japan to advertise for a Japanese baseball league!
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
It's not a Japanese baseball league. It's a baseball league in Japan.
And it’s not about baseball, it’s about athletes in Japan.
How would the foreign baseball players feel if they were never used in advertisements in the US? There are plenty of foreign basball players in Japan, and none of them are promoted in ads. Call it racism or ethnocentrism, Im just stating facts. There’s a little truth to Rampage’s statement. Maybe it has to do with the fact that there are virtually no black ppl in Japan.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
japan is incredibly nationalistic. they are a very proud people
they still frown upon learning english because america whooped the dog shit out of them in ww2. on one hand they are just promoting their hometown boys, but on the other hand they are exploiting outsiders.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 16, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!
I GET EM TOO AFTER A SHOWER
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Mar 12, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
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