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MONDAY MORNING BLACKBELT

     Good afternoon guys and gals, woulda had this up sooner, but worked a 12 hour shift last night.  
As I had "reported" last week, it doesn't look like Fedor is gonna fight in April on CBS or in May on showtime.  I didn't realize we were now on sherdog, a few of you asked for my source and I didn't give it.  You have to realize that we here on mania go on reputation, and my reputation is saying things before many know and being right!  If I give my 2 sources I have, I'll never get a scoop again.  The UFC in the movies and Brock returning in the summer announcement came from me a full week before it was officially announced, those are two good examples of how good my source is! Well, it's now been announced that fedor wont be fighting and the reason is money.

     Fedor and M-1 are saying they weren't compensated enough for their last fight.  I guess my question is (and I'm a huge Fedor fan) did he get paid what his contract stated?  Did M-1 put up what they were supposed to?  And finally this goes to show that the whole cross promotion argument reigns true!  First, what does Fedor's contract state he is supposed to make.  I don't have the contract in front of me, but I think it was something like 250k and he also received a signing bonus when he signed with strikeforce.  He also owns a percentage of M-1 and is paid by them.  If he agreed to this salary, then why complain.  He must know that he's not a huge North American draw, but coming off 2 huge wins over former UFC champions and a great come back win over Brett Rogers, his stock as a draw is rising rapidly.

     M-1 has the huge sticking point that they must co-promote any event in which Fedor is in.  This means a 50/50 split on the whole event and an "M-1 presents" in the credits.  From what I'm reading, M-1 isn't living up to their end of the agreement, though I do not know to what extent.  So what you ask is my point in all of this?  Dana White offered Fedor a ton of money (reportedly) and he said "no thanks" because the UFC wouldn't co-promote.  What I don't understand, why not take the huge pay increase from the UFC, disband M-1 and just compensate all your M-1 cronies instead of sinking another ship!   Look at the predicament that fedor has put strikeforce in.  They now have to put Jake "I put the majority of fans to sleep on the last CBS card" Shields as the main event and hope that Hendo knocks him oput.  If Shields is able to get this fight to the ground and blanket Hendo, it'll be a disaster for strikeforce.  The other thing I'm reading is that strikeforce is depending on Herschell Walker brining fans to tune into CBS.  So for us hardcores, we get an old ex football player with minimal mma skills as a main card bout.

     With the departure of Gegard Moussassi from M-1, it also makes you think.  Reports say that UFC made a big offer to Gegard and M-1 failed to tell him about the offer, essentially lying to him for their benefit.  So this begs the question, what does Fedor actually know?  You'll have those "super fans" that say he makes all his own decisions, but those who are rational and free thinking are starting to see a pattern.  Bottom line is, even if Fedor is a 10% owner of M-1, 10% of nothing is still nothing, and the rate they are going, this is what's going to happen.  To make the most money for himself and M-1, he should fight on every CBS card, build up a mainstream North American following and get his ass into the UFC.  Forget co-promotion, he'll make a hell of a lot more money without it.  Finally, I thought Fedor didn't care about the money etc.  So let me get this straight, he doesn't care about the money yet he's holding strikeforce hostage right now over money!?  hmmm.

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CANADA HOCKEY RULES

LU LU LU LU

Kev here’s an Olympic argument for you.

THe USA won the most medals, Canada was third. Canada won the most gold.

Who won the Vancouver 2010 Olympics?

by Bigger Zino on Mar 1, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

here's my answer

who cares?! I’d say it goes to country with most medals, and I’d honestly say that regardless who had the most, but I also could care less. All the olympics did for me was make every station play reruns as to not go head to head with the olympics, so I had to deal with not watching some of the shows I really enjoy for 3 weeks!

by kevjack115 on Mar 1, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

haha...what do you guys have? isn't baseball america's game?? no...that can't be right...it must be Japans game as their the champs...

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 1, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh Oh Enough already with who is better at what we have hockey and US has Bball in the Olympics.

 Fact is we both suck at the worlds biggest sport soccer the number#1 game played around the world.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 1, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

soccer?

where I’m from soccer is for 2 people…gays and girls!

by kevjack115 on Mar 1, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 1, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

There's only two types of people who play soccer.

Steers and Queers….I don’t see no horns on you boys.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 1, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You're missing out on the world's most popular sport then

Looking forward to giving the US a thrashing when we play you in the World Cup. Hopefully those idiots Terry and Cole haven’t blown everything by doing a Tiger. It’s our best chance since 1990 at winning so needless to say I’m going to be pissed off if we blow it again.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 1, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Where your from??? haha its the olympics dude...it doesn't matter where your from

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 1, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

P.S

Canada had a better record than the US as we played an additional game and won…

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 1, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

If you apply NHL rules, USA is ahead of Canada by points

The extra game played does not count, number of games must be equal. USA lost to Canada in overtime and would therefore still earn one point. (2 points for a win, 1 for a loss in overtime). USA would have had more points if it was the same ranking as NHL.

Also, Canada better beat the US at hockey. I mean, us beating Canada would be the equivalent to the USA losing to Canada in basketball.

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Mar 3, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Not even close VM. You guys are good at hockey(second in the world), we suck at basketball.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 3, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

But all your best athletes go into hockey since its your number one sport

Our top athletes go into Basketball, Football, and Baseball all before hockey.

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Mar 4, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Good post.

But your logic on the hockey thing couldn’t be so far off. So according to you if the Colts beat the Pats in the regular season, and the Pats beat the superbowl game they should have a rubber match?

by abnewf on Mar 1, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

**and the Pats beat the Colts in the Superbowl

by abnewf on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

guys, I know how the NFL works

a regular season and a playoff. Growing up being an above average athlete, any tournament I was in there was a winners bracket and a losers bracket, the winner of the losers bracket would have to beat winner of winners bracket twice to win! I honestly didn’t know how it worked seeing I don’t give a shit about hockey or the olympics. I’m not taking away from Cananda’s win, was more looking for how it works. I got my answer, they have prelims for seeding then the tournament. lets talk mma now!

by kevjack115 on Mar 1, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Kev

You can make fun of they way we say eh or aboot. You can call us America Jr. or Americas hat. You can talk about how terrible our military is or a million other things. But no one and I mean no one says anything (no matter how trivial) about Canadian hockey.

JASONFAHQ is a troll

by bigbadbunbun on Mar 1, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Also apparently you can’t make fun of how we drink milk from a plastic bag either…

JASONFAHQ is a troll

by bigbadbunbun on Mar 1, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

not making fun, congrats on the gold (as it has no affect on my life) I was sincerely curious as to how it works!

by kevjack115 on Mar 1, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I didn't watch a second of the Winter Olympics so I can't comment on that

But bagged milk is one of the funniest things that I’ve heard on this site.

"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"

Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.

by David W-S on Mar 1, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

david, we live in england.......

we have cows to keep our milk in…………………..

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 2, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

prelims have nothing to do with it...who gave you that answer?

the fact the the US beat us forced us to play an additional RR game…thats it…the US got a bye into the quarters after beating us

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 1, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

either way

it doesn’t matter, I’ll delete that part since I was wondering, not bashing, didn’t realize I was so off with it!

by kevjack115 on Mar 1, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Mar 1, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

I think Keelo is just saying that US beat Canada in the prelims.

canadians cheat and lie…whereas americans are fair and respectul in sports…--HellaHectic the funniest MF'er on Mania

by jay. on Mar 1, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

organised crime.....

and m1 global is not just restricted to north america, alot of their business is over seas. fedor as an athlete, i agree, should participate in the ufc, but promoters will ALWAYS keep a hold on their prized asset……we’ve had it for years in boxing, and only when they agree on how many millions each of them will make by co promoting will things ever happen, they are nothing more than sporting pimps……

by freedomthrtyfve on Mar 1, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

I hope MMA fans have learned from boxing

and do not support such BS. If MMA turns into how boxing works MMA will go down fast.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 1, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I for one don't care what Fedor and M1 do.

I just want to seem him fight and yes I prefer to see him in the UFC but if not, fock it. It’s his career and his legacy that are going to be questioned for his entire life.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Mar 1, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

true dat MMACHAMP

 By the sounds of it M1 must of though SF made more money than they did or expected them too but I still can’t see either party walking away until the contract is done without legal actions being taken. I thought his contract was 3 fight 1 year contract, and I don’t know if the 1 year expires the contract is void regardless if he got three figths in or not?

 Anyway m1 stated they might look for other orgs that are willing to CO-PROMOTE and the UFC will not co promote, but who is that would give the money that the UFC would offer? they want to co promote I suggest they should prove they can promote a big card themselves rather than rely on other organizations LOL.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Mar 1, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Gegard will fight for UFC. Fedor too. I hope Emelinenko brings to his mind he’s still a fighter – the best ever – and goes to UFC not to prove anything but to show up and say “I’m here to kick some asses” (Speaking in Russian, of course).

Strikeforce gave Fedor some hype in the United States and The Last Emperor gave them a good show with Brett Rogers. I think Fedor will accomplish his contract and will make a deal with Ultimate.

Am I daydreaming? Whatever. Milions of real MMA fans also are. Another great text by kevjack115 as always.

"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"

by Eduardo Cruz on Mar 3, 2010 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Mar 3, 2010 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

LMAO

Tire Sniper strike agains. There must be a Sams Club across the street!

by Bigger Zino on Mar 4, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

that is some funny chit

Open up the Shit Gates and God Bless Marv

by BJPennfan on Mar 6, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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