Muay Thai trainer 'out of tune' with Anderson Silva; leaves 'Spider' camp
by Jesse Holland on Feb 9, 2010 1:46 PM EST
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Props: Tatame.com
Quoteworthy:
"I thank Anderson for all the time we spent working together. He’s a champion, a born striker, but we won’t continue working together in this partnership due to lack of tune in some moments. I decided to let the way open or him to work his Muay Thai with anyone he decides. The last fight we did was the one against Griffin… I think I ended my work with him in a great way."
French Muay Thai trainer Daniel Woirin, who helped Anderson Silva achieve victory in his previous four bouts, has parted ways with the current UFC Middleweight Champion after failing to find a middle ground with his training. Is there trouble brewing in the "Spider" camp? Or is this a routine change for a fight team heading into a UFC 112 bout against Vitor Belfort on April 10 in Abu Dhabi?
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How do you see that fight being played out, kev?
I can’t see Silva knocking him out and I can’t see Silva taking him down. I have no clue what is going to happen in that fight.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
its going to be a boxing match.
And Anderson WILL knock Vitor out in the very first round or at the beginning of the second.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
That would be a first..
Vitor’s only ever been stopped by Couture and only because of conditioning/GnP; Overeem caught him in a guillotine but that’s it, the rest of the loss’s are decisions. Not say Anderson won’t be the first to get him with a standing KO but I don’t see it happening. I’m going with slow paced; lots of circling, lots of feinting, very little action for this one.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
For 5 rounds?
I agree for the first one MAYBE.
But in my mind Silva has such far superior standup than Belfort, that I see him going in for the kill on an early successful counter. Beginning of second at the latest.
We’ll see if I get proved wrong, but for now I believe there is absolutely nothing Vitor can do. Silva could take Vitors punches all day as far as my perception goes.
Prove me wrong Vitor! Make it exciting!
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Vitor can KO Silva with one punch
And Silva can KO Vitor with a slick combination; neither one is going to want to be the first to dive in and engage. Silva isn’t technically that far ahead of Vitor; when you break your hand in the first rd, come out in the 2nd and end it with a flying knee just cause you can’t punch; that’s serious stand up skills. Vitor also put Franklin away faster than Silva did, and with less strikes. If one of them screws up at all it’s over.
Vitor’s hand speed is superior imo as well.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
hand speed, yes...accuracy, I doubt it,,,should be good
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
and call me crazy but karma is on Vitor's side
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Mac = CRAZY. Skills will win this.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson 85 / 15 Belfort
"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie
87/13 is more like it.
Like AA vs AK.
If he gets his aces cracked, it’s just a bad beat.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
No way Vitor is at least AK suited which is better than 13%
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
haha
ok not even gonna argue. I’ll give Vitor the 14% :)
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
I was thinking 48/52 myself lol
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
we all know the only way to beat anderson is by lay and pray man, vitor has a great chance at a one punch knockout but so did hendo and hendo did land a couple and anderson didnt even blink..
sure vitor is a faster more techincal striker than hendo but he will get embarassed if he stands with the spider. that said i pick vitor by sub rd3 call it charma for an arrogant prick named anderson silva…
btw guys i hate saying it again but nate the overrated marquardt has proved my point HE SUCKS!
by randy murders on Feb 9, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
don't compare Belfort to Henderson man.
Belfort would knock Hendo down if they had a standing fight. Belfort is the best boxer in the MW division along with AS and definitely one of the best in the UFC and in MMA.
If you think Anderson is going to dominate Vitor standing then you are badly mistaken and don’t really know what your talking about.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Accuracy + Reach > Speed.
AHHHHHHH I cant wait for this fight.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Speed > all
Speed kills
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
If that comment were true Mike Tyson never would've won a fight in his entire carreer
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think any of us can break this fight down. I don’t think anyone can. That’s why we are all so damn excited to see it
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
Agreed.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Very much Agreed.
Exciting times. Last time I was this excited was when Fedor was gonna fight Barnett… We know how that ended :)
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
I hope Belfort endulges Anderson in a standup fight. That'll be a murder.
Only the vitor from early Pride can beat Anderson aka the wrestler/top game vitor. Vitor can only implement his game if you’re in range to box. He doesn’t kick, can’t really fight in the clinch and has shown many times that if you don’t roll over, he quits and as someone so truthfully said looks like a sad panda after the bout. He’s more of a positional grappler so don’t expect to see subs even if he takes Andy down. He may pack power but anderson has a granite chin himself. I just don’t see how people think he can win here. He’s not gonna try to blitz anderson- that’s asking the best counterstriker in MMA to ply his trade all over your face. Both hesitation or aggression work against him simply because of how their styles match up.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 9, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Leg strikes tilt the fight in favor for AS.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming he uses them; he really hasn't been as of late.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Except against Leites :)
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
And that went 5 rds
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
OD, it went 5 rds because Leites laid on his back!!!!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
yep...but thats just as much Silva's fault imo
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Come on, Mac. You just hate AS.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
He's right to a degree
Leites was a coward in that one, but Silva could’ve finished him if he’d really got after him.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't hate anyone I've never met...but I sat through that Leites fight live and wasn't happy
His arrogance has worn on me and I can’t wait for him to lose….he knocked Leites down numerous times but refused to finish…how is that better than what Leites did?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Yeah, right. And fall into a fight ending sub or get caught making a stupid mistake? I am surprised OD, this is from the guy who defended Randy's "game plan" vs. Vera. Both got the W. It ain't always gonna be fireworks, right?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
your blaming Leites for not standing but praising Silva for not going to the ground
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
doesn't make sense...oh wait, yes it does, your a Silva fan...now it makes sense
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Standing is where a fight is by default.
To get on the ground someone has to knock down or take down. In this case the only person who wanted to be on the ground is Leites, that coward. And he couldn’t do neither. So he is the only one to blame.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
He did try for a couple of take downs
But they were feeble attempts.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Silva put him there with punches...he didn't just fall down pointlessly till the 4th and 5th round
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Remember the first couple of rounds, Leites was trying for take downs.
He just never came close.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Agreed here.
Why would he rush into someone who he can beat easily on his feet. If the guy wanted to fight on the ground then try a takedown. But no, he didn’t have the balls for it.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
he stood with him for at least a round and a half while Silva fucked around doing nothing
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
it was both their faults
But the fight can always go back to standing… if your a great BJJ guy., it’s ur job to get it to the ground, not the “strikers” job to dive into ur guard!
80/20 % leites/silvas fault
60/40 and you got a deal...Silva is the champ..I didn't buy a ticket to see Leites...there will be NO convincing me otherwise
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I am ready...
to give u 35% Silva, 65% Leites. Final Offer.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
no dice
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
When MMA turns into a sport instead of a spectacle the more we will see the Silva Leites situation.It’s not a brawl anymore. It’s like a football game where the winning team drops a knee and lets time expire. As much as we don’t want to see it we do. It’s part of the game. Same this with Rua. He coasted to what he perceived to be a win.
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
Closer to 60/40
Silva just stood over him with his hands on his hips. He could have taken a step back and demanded Leites get up, or he could have leg kicked that bitch to sleep…
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
he irritated me because he acted like it was all Leites fault when he spent the first 2 rounds dancing around looking stupid....
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
80/20 sounds good to me
if not than 90/10! What a little bitch waiting on his back! Get the fuck up homo!
Yup. 100/0. And there is NO convincing me otherwise, either. You want to beat the champ then you gotta TAKE it from the champ!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
He should never have been in the cage to begin with.
My new ratio is 40% Leites, 60% Joe Silva.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
HAHAHHAHAH
love it jay
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Nice, jay.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Randy got rocked.. he didn't really have a choice
Silva was never in any danger; if he had been near subbed or hurt at some point in the fight I could see why he was dancing around Leites and avoiding the ground. At no point in the fight was he in any danger. The Couture vs Vera fight; Randy tried to trade with Vera, got tagged and had to go in to wrestling mode; it was all he could do. Silva had so many more tools at his disposal vs Leites.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm on Macs side on this
Leites wasn’t lying down for the first two rounds. He was standing there confused as to why AS was dancing around without throwing anything. They are both to blame for that fight.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Both jay? really?
How so? You always see fighters knocking down the other guy and waiting for him to get up. Watch Silva do it to Bisdick!
He wasn
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
I pressed Enter instead of '
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
He wasn't backing up and making the ref stand Leites up
He was standing over him stalling. If you want him up, wave him up. Don’t stand there like you might decide to do something.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
yep...thats why I was booing...he's not going to stand up with Silva at his feet...take 3 steps back and let him up
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I think I blocked most of that boring ass fight out!
It’s all coming back to me now…………lol…..that was for you Canadian Celine fans!!! LOL!
Leg strikes?
You mean when he was punching Leites thighs or some shit, just cause he could? lol
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 9, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
hehe
Leg strikes: when your opponent is too afraid to do upkicks.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
lol but thats not what i meant
In round 3-4 Silva was, in the standup, literally leaning forward and jabbing Leites thighs. Like a leg strike :) So damn akward.
When i saw the fight live (on TV) i sat quite and just couldnt believe my eyes. Felt a little bit embaressed about the whole thing. But i just saw the fight again last week, and now 10 months later, i fucking laughed my ass off. AS was a dick, but he’s good at it!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 10, 2010 4:27 AM EST up reply actions
it is close..
i’m just saying that silva has natural talent above and beyond most…it’s an instinct thing..so this switch up in trainers etc isn’t going to affect him..and yes belfort is a challenge that is real..but i see silva coming out on top..by avoiding the big punches..tiring him out..if you look at victor’s loses in the past..i dunno, i just hope this is an exciting fight.
This trainer is full of himself
He is acting as if he is the that taught Anderson how to strike.
NEWSFLASH: Anderson knew how to strike much longer than 4 fights ago. So basically, this homo is responsible for coaching Anderson during the Cote and Leites fight.
Anderson was a world class striker long before this Frenchie came around.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
I have no faith in Vitor myself...
I may get flamed for this but Vitor in my opinion is one of the biggest mental midgets in MMA! I’ve said this before, he has failed at everyone of his big fights. Sorry all but 2 fights, Wandy back in 1998 and Franklin last year(and imo the FRanklin fight was not the big fight Anderson is). Yeah he has a good record and yes he has great speed but they never seem to show up when the belt is on the line or the big name is in front of him. Granted his losses come from wrestlers, but you have to question where he is when it is time to step up for the big show. Certain guys accel when the game is on the line, the team needs one more big play, or when it is time to win gold and other guys are great until that moment comes, I think Anderson has him beat mentally. Andy is a big show fighter, even if he gets a little stupid sometimes-Vitor hasn’t been that guy to date. Hopefully Vitor gets in the ring and knocks the pink shirt of Anderson (I am an Anderson Fan) and proves me completely wrong, but I just don’t see it. I also want Anderson to Fight Chael while he has the belt!
There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman".
I agree with Sara
There isn’t anyone at 185 that can touch him! Not even Belfort! Or this new found love Sonnen
lol NewFoundLove Sonnen
Love it MBOW. That should be his nickname till his next fight, which is gonna be a loss, either to Silva, Belfort or Maia.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Exactly. Let's not give the crown to Sonnen just yet, people.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
sarah
Gotta agree! Although I’d love nothing more then to see Belfort dethrone Ando, I definitely will be going with Silva for my MaC Pool Picks.
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Feb 9, 2010 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't u say the same thing about machida shogun?
by d*locc on Feb 9, 2010 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know how to call it
Vitor is a dangerous guy to stand and trade with. I think Silva will wear him out and win in the later rounds…maybe 3rd
Vitor all the way!!!
No way vitor loses in the stand up game! It’s Guna take a real strong wrestler 2 beat vitor like hendog
by d*locc on Feb 9, 2010 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you got the wrong guy...
It’s Anderson who doesn’t lose in the stand up game. Vitor will have to outwrestle Silva to win. Otherwise lights out Belfort.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Belfort doesn't lose on his feet either, since I don't see Silva taking him down this should be a great fight.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Vitor's never been Koed...I think Randy TKOed him but thats it
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
True... Randy was the only one.
I can’t wait for this fight guys. Love myself some highlevel standup action. Will bet on Anderson if the odds are anywhere below -300.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
sometimes "high level stand up action" translates to
circling and staring at each other.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
yep...it won't take long either imo
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Ya randy’s wrestling shorts ripped somehow revealing blue nuthuggers as he pounded away from the top with Belfort pressed against the cage en route to ref stoppage and Rogan saying “No one thought Randy would win this via strikes, some said submission but none said strikes!”
Or something to that tune if I remember it riiight. I have it recorded somewhere. It was also on Ultimate KO’s 2.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 9, 2010 5:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
AS hasn't fought a real striker yet
Vitor has fought Wand, chuck, overeem , mofos with heavy ass hands that cudnt put him out! He was Guna step up & fight fedor at affliction. That’s y he wasn’t rocked against Franklin.
by d*locc on Feb 9, 2010 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good point.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
could've sworn Hendo's hands have looked heavy a couple times in the past.
Silly me.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, Worby, you are silly. Hendo is a wrestler.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Paulo Filho enjoys Doritos.
This isn’t the first time the Spider’s camp has changes. Ordinary measure, common result. Anderson by KO second round.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
the outcome to these fights are very important to the ufc
if machida loses then i think anderson silva would get a title shot at 205. even if silva loses or wins i think he should take a huge step & fight the winner of rampage/evans, since machida /silva will not fight each other
belfort is prob. training his heart out, but anderson is just the greatest fighter in the world.he beat henderson e-z, and crushed griffin. i can’t see anderson losing this fight.
I'd have to agree.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
sac165
Was thinking the samee thing! It crazy how even when he goes to lhw he is bigger the the big boys! Forrest is huge and ando was noticeably bigger
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Feb 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I cant believe I'm gonna say this...
But if Sonnen gets him down, he’s gonna kill Anderson. That’s if he gets by Vitor, which he should rather easily.
lol
Vitor should be easy, but Sonnen will kill Anderson if he gets him to the ground?? LOL. You get the prize for the dumbest thing I’ve read all day.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
yeah like hendo killed him when he had him down?
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
Or Marquardt or Lutter...
The only way to beat him would be to hold him on the ground for 5 full rounds. And everytime a new round starts… you have a 75% of getting finished right there and then.
5 successfull takedowns = VERY unlikely.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Mark my words
Belfort gets the striking battle and the W in this fight. I really like Silva, and always have, but he and his manager can go blow a goat the way they treat the fight game.
by GodDamnMike on Feb 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
there is something to be said..
about his manager..and even silva can come off pretty smug..but he is a wicked fighter.
As long as his timing and flow aren't interupted by this switch, he will still be the deadly striker that he is
And he should be able to take care of Vitor standing up
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
think silva and his camp come up with game plans?
or is just stand and kill the go to?
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
thats what im askin really.
but i figure they just train and silva does whatever the hell he wants inside the octagon
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
Yep
He is on a different level: Beyond game plans.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
thing about silva too
is he had a crazy crazy chin
some of his old fights, (KOTC maybe? a yellow mat thats all i know), he would just take punches to the head and laugh like it was nothing
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
Ya man...
His chin is out of this world. It’s like he doesn’t even think about chins like other people do. Vitor will not be able to land enough to hurt him, and will be out-time-distortioned. Silva can stop time to give himself more time to react. Just watch slowmo of Forrest.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
could you be swinging from AS's nuts any more?
Every forrest griffin fight is like watching slow mo, if you slowed it down any further time would actually stop. He’s given one big name who’s a truly awful fighter with no technique, no chin, no natural athleticism, and an aggresive style and suddenly he’s untouchable. How quickly we forget that the 2 prior fights, everyone was criticizing him like hell for his performances against Cote and Leites…
"Matt Hughes and his brother used to pound each other out behind the barn."
-The legendary Mike Goldberg
That's because most fans are fickle bitches and don't appreciate anything unless it involves a Mortal Kombat ending.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, slick subs are great, too. I have matured and have learned to appreciate them as well even though I come from a striking background.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
hehe
I never critisized Silva or Cote. But I did critisize Leites. In fact since that fight my friends and I say someone who lies on the ground and waits is “Leites’ing”.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
one of the fights you are thinking of is anderson vs jorge rivera...
I think they were clinched up but regardless, jorge landed like 4 or 5 consecutive hard shots..you could see andersons head get jacked to the side each time, and they didnt phase him..ive never seen anything like it…im still gonna be rootin for vitor, though..probably wouldnt bet money on it though
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
yeah thats the one!
silva had him clinched and just ate a few punches..smiled and proceeded to lay a beat down
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
I feel there is something not quite right, with Anderson!
I didn’t believe Vitor would make it past the third round when the fight was first being sized up. But, something seems off! I can’t put my finger on it, though! Anyway, I think Vitor is gonna take this! But, only because I don’t think AS isn’t gonna be 100%.
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Feb 9, 2010 2:56 PM EST reply actions
Agreed.
These last few weeks I think is the beginning of the end of AS.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Wishful thinking although I think Vitor is a real danger to AS. No doubt.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
but I don’t see AS losing to him. With AS long reach it will be difficult for Vitor to get close enough to cause any damage.
hopefully
I dislike him something wicked.
I wonder why Sexiyama isnt getting matched up with someone???
Keep your fingers crossed...
That the MT trainer knows something we dont and he is just cutting his losses…
Vitor's Excuses?
after Anderson knees him in the head and KO’s him with a straight?
You are right. Vitor is gonna say that he wasn’t ready for a crazy freestyle AS without a normal Muay Thai coach.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
Dragon/Spider
Someone mentioned above that these 2 won’t fight. And that used to be true, but I’ve heard rumor recently that Vitor was getting some training from Dragon! If this is true then I see now reason why Spider doesn’t go up to 205 and smash Dragon should they both win their next fights.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 9, 2010 5:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nope...
Vitor was training Machida Karate with one of Lyoto’s dad’s original students. Not Lyoto or even his father.
2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]
otay THX for the correction
I still learning.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 9, 2010 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Silva
Is the best fighter in the world and constantly being underestimated. Vitor has been fighting overseas, where its easy to dominate ( for a UFC worthy competitor ) and his only UFC match has been against Franklin at a catchweight. IMO he should’ve fought Marquardt or Hendo if he hadn’t left.
How long ago was this picture taken?
Cause Silva sure isn’t ripped like that anymore.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 7:56 PM EST reply actions
Your not the champ by going into every fight full prepared with a game plan and high level training. Changing up your training partners is probably normal for any high level MMA fighter.
Does this comment really have any effect on his preparation for the fight? Hell no! It’s a random piece of gossip that in Silva’s / Belfort’s world is really not important. Both of them are crafting a game plan to maximize there strengths and capitalize on there opponents weaknesses. Both like to strike, Andersen is a laser accurate counter puncher and Belfort has lightning quick explosive power. Vitor did feel out Franklin before exploding and dropping him and you’ll probably see the same thing in this fight.
Tentative first round, both guys feeling each other out (both aren’t ignorant to each others knock power) Second round someone is going down, maybe it’s Vitor exploding and getting caught or Andy gets rushed and over whelmed.
Can’t see this becoming a chess mate on the ground, but overall will finish in TKO for Vitor or TKO or sub for Andy.
Anderson will prove he is the superior striker vs.‘s vitor imo. Everything about vitor is great right now, and he finished franklin easy, but as rogan would say anderson is a special fighter, vitor needs to prove that he is special with another few big wins like the franklin ko. Anderson has kicks and a reach, that vitor doesnt. I dont think anderson wants a big challenge in vitor, but i dont think he will get ko’d either. I say odds are 65 % spider wins or 65 35
by fedor spiderush st.gracie on Feb 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions
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