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Muay Thai trainer 'out of tune' with Anderson Silva; leaves 'Spider' camp

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"I thank Anderson for all the time we spent working together. He’s a champion, a born striker, but we won’t continue working together in this partnership due to lack of tune in some moments. I decided to let the way open or him to work his Muay Thai with anyone he decides. The last fight we did was the one against Griffin… I think I ended my work with him in a great way."

French Muay Thai trainer Daniel Woirin, who helped Anderson Silva achieve victory in his previous four bouts, has parted ways with the current UFC Middleweight Champion after failing to find a middle ground with his training. Is there trouble brewing in the "Spider" camp? Or is this a routine change for a fight team heading into a UFC 112 bout against Vitor Belfort on April 10 in Abu Dhabi?

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against Belfort! I think it’s a really close fight

by kevjack115 on Feb 9, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you see that fight being played out, kev?

I can’t see Silva knocking him out and I can’t see Silva taking him down. I have no clue what is going to happen in that fight.

OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.

by jay. on Feb 9, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

it is close..

i’m just saying that silva has natural talent above and beyond most…it’s an instinct thing..so this switch up in trainers etc isn’t going to affect him..and yes belfort is a challenge that is real..but i see silva coming out on top..by avoiding the big punches..tiring him out..if you look at victor’s loses in the past..i dunno, i just hope this is an exciting fight.

by sarah- on Feb 9, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This trainer is full of himself

He is acting as if he is the that taught Anderson how to strike.

NEWSFLASH: Anderson knew how to strike much longer than 4 fights ago. So basically, this homo is responsible for coaching Anderson during the Cote and Leites fight.

Anderson was a world class striker long before this Frenchie came around.

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Feb 9, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no faith in Vitor myself...

I may get flamed for this but Vitor in my opinion is one of the biggest mental midgets in MMA! I’ve said this before, he has failed at everyone of his big fights. Sorry all but 2 fights, Wandy back in 1998 and Franklin last year(and imo the FRanklin fight was not the big fight Anderson is). Yeah he has a good record and yes he has great speed but they never seem to show up when the belt is on the line or the big name is in front of him. Granted his losses come from wrestlers, but you have to question where he is when it is time to step up for the big show. Certain guys accel when the game is on the line, the team needs one more big play, or when it is time to win gold and other guys are great until that moment comes, I think Anderson has him beat mentally. Andy is a big show fighter, even if he gets a little stupid sometimes-Vitor hasn’t been that guy to date. Hopefully Vitor gets in the ring and knocks the pink shirt of Anderson (I am an Anderson Fan) and proves me completely wrong, but I just don’t see it. I also want Anderson to Fight Chael while he has the belt!

There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman".

by Da Monkey on Feb 10, 2010 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Sara

There isn’t anyone at 185 that can touch him! Not even Belfort! Or this new found love Sonnen

by MBOW on Feb 9, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

sarah

Gotta agree! Although I’d love nothing more then to see Belfort dethrone Ando, I definitely will be going with Silva for my MaC Pool Picks.

The Good Die Young

by SouthCaliStunNa on Feb 9, 2010 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know how to call it

Vitor is a dangerous guy to stand and trade with. I think Silva will wear him out and win in the later rounds…maybe 3rd

by kevjack115 on Feb 9, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Vitor all the way!!!

No way vitor loses in the stand up game! It’s Guna take a real strong wrestler 2 beat vitor like hendog

by d*locc on Feb 9, 2010 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Paulo Filho enjoys Doritos.

This isn’t the first time the Spider’s camp has changes. Ordinary measure, common result. Anderson by KO second round.

"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"

by Eduardo Cruz on Feb 9, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

the outcome to these fights are very important to the ufc

if machida loses then i think anderson silva would get a title shot at 205. even if silva loses or wins i think he should take a huge step & fight the winner of rampage/evans, since machida /silva will not fight each other

belfort is prob. training his heart out, but anderson is just the greatest fighter in the world.he beat henderson e-z, and crushed griffin. i can’t see anderson losing this fight.

by mikeybear32 on Feb 9, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd have to agree.

Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"

by Two_Words on Feb 9, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

sac165

Was thinking the samee thing! It crazy how even when he goes to lhw he is bigger the the big boys! Forrest is huge and ando was noticeably bigger

The Good Die Young

by SouthCaliStunNa on Feb 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mark my words

Belfort gets the striking battle and the W in this fight. I really like Silva, and always have, but he and his manager can go blow a goat the way they treat the fight game.

by GodDamnMike on Feb 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

there is something to be said..

about his manager..and even silva can come off pretty smug..but he is a wicked fighter.

by sarah- on Feb 9, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as his timing and flow aren't interupted by this switch, he will still be the deadly striker that he is

And he should be able to take care of Vitor standing up

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Feb 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

think silva and his camp come up with game plans?

or is just stand and kill the go to?

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

by Newfie3 on Feb 9, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

I don’t think they need game plans…………..their just that good!!!

by MBOW on Feb 9, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what im askin really.

but i figure they just train and silva does whatever the hell he wants inside the octagon

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

by Newfie3 on Feb 9, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

thing about silva too

is he had a crazy crazy chin
some of his old fights, (KOTC maybe? a yellow mat thats all i know), he would just take punches to the head and laugh like it was nothing

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

by Newfie3 on Feb 9, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

had=has

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

by Newfie3 on Feb 9, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Cage Rage

Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH

by brendog on Feb 9, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

one of the fights you are thinking of is anderson vs jorge rivera...

I think they were clinched up but regardless, jorge landed like 4 or 5 consecutive hard shots..you could see andersons head get jacked to the side each time, and they didnt phase him..ive never seen anything like it…im still gonna be rootin for vitor, though..probably wouldnt bet money on it though

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

by salamagogo on Feb 9, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah thats the one!

silva had him clinched and just ate a few punches..smiled and proceeded to lay a beat down

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

by Newfie3 on Feb 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel there is something not quite right, with Anderson!

I didn’t believe Vitor would make it past the third round when the fight was first being sized up. But, something seems off! I can’t put my finger on it, though! Anyway, I think Vitor is gonna take this! But, only because I don’t think AS isn’t gonna be 100%.

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Feb 9, 2010 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

These last few weeks I think is the beginning of the end of AS.

"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali

by tkkpal on Feb 9, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Wishful thinking although I think Vitor is a real danger to AS. No doubt.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but I don’t see AS losing to him. With AS long reach it will be difficult for Vitor to get close enough to cause any damage.

by MMACHAMP on Feb 9, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

hopefully

I dislike him something wicked.

I wonder why Sexiyama isnt getting matched up with someone???

by judopei on Feb 9, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Was supposed to fight Wandy I think. But got injured or something

I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me

by bigbadbunbun on Feb 9, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep your fingers crossed...

That the MT trainer knows something we dont and he is just cutting his losses…

by judopei on Feb 9, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

AND.....

let the excuses begin…

by manalito on Feb 9, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Anderson

Tko by footstomps, i’m calling it

by MikeAllen on Feb 9, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

Silva

Is the best fighter in the world and constantly being underestimated. Vitor has been fighting overseas, where its easy to dominate ( for a UFC worthy competitor ) and his only UFC match has been against Franklin at a catchweight. IMO he should’ve fought Marquardt or Hendo if he hadn’t left.

by theworldismine on Feb 9, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

How long ago was this picture taken?

Cause Silva sure isn’t ripped like that anymore.

"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27

by O damn he got caught on Feb 9, 2010 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

Your not the champ by going into every fight full prepared with a game plan and high level training. Changing up your training partners is probably normal for any high level MMA fighter.

Does this comment really have any effect on his preparation for the fight? Hell no! It’s a random piece of gossip that in Silva’s / Belfort’s world is really not important. Both of them are crafting a game plan to maximize there strengths and capitalize on there opponents weaknesses. Both like to strike, Andersen is a laser accurate counter puncher and Belfort has lightning quick explosive power. Vitor did feel out Franklin before exploding and dropping him and you’ll probably see the same thing in this fight.

Tentative first round, both guys feeling each other out (both aren’t ignorant to each others knock power) Second round someone is going down, maybe it’s Vitor exploding and getting caught or Andy gets rushed and over whelmed.

Can’t see this becoming a chess mate on the ground, but overall will finish in TKO for Vitor or TKO or sub for Andy.

by flash22 on Feb 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Anderson will prove he is the superior striker vs.‘s vitor imo. Everything about vitor is great right now, and he finished franklin easy, but as rogan would say anderson is a special fighter, vitor needs to prove that he is special with another few big wins like the franklin ko. Anderson has kicks and a reach, that vitor doesnt. I dont think anderson wants a big challenge in vitor, but i dont think he will get ko’d either. I say odds are 65 % spider wins or 65 35

by fedor spiderush st.gracie on Feb 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

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