Chuck Liddell is going to kill Tito Ortiz in 'tune up' fight
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Ariel
Sounds like Perez Hilton in this interview…
u dont want to know.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
thank you
I was wondering if I was the only one! is he gay? I could care less, just asking! and chuck is obviously inebriated… so i guess he hasn’t quit!
Areil sounds super gay...
Especially in the first few seconds when he keeps saying, “Is this the best one ever?”
There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman".
That wasn’t an attempt to be funny. I seriously hope Chuck causes such serious damage to Tito that Jenna is traumatized to the point that she prematurely drops that alien spawn she’s about to hatch.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
she's pregnant again?
because she gave birth months ago… thats why it wasn’t funny. if she’s pregnant again, then my bad and it’s funny
Oh, I didn’t know she already squatted that little pod creature out.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
She actually had twins.
It was the first time in recorded history that twins were born vaginally and at the same exact time.
by BNF on Feb 8, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Gross
That had to be like when Alien opens its mouth and there’s a tiny Alien inside it.
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if any of u wer single
And I gave you a condom and Jenna for 5 mins, you’d walk out of that room with a smile and 1 load less in your holster.
No doubt about it.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 6:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
daniel
you are, kinda, making the case for Jenna here. Yet you forget her current status/self-image, which is quite different from what she did in movies.
I mean, you know that in movies, the actors are not actually superheroes etc., yet in this genre you seem to have trouble to discern fiction and reality.
The scenario you were describing would realistically also require “her being single” and “her being willing”.
lol
he’s saying if it were in the movies per say! I got it Danial, you’re wrong, I’m sure many of us wouldn’t , but none the less I got it!
She didn't actually "have" twins. They just sort of fell out.
by K S on Feb 8, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nice! LMFAO all morning long on that one!
There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman".
Tito is afraid of Chuck
I will always remember the look of fear in Tito’s eyes the last time he was in the ring with Chuck. Tito can talk all he wants, but he is afraid of Chuck.
i agree
but if tito beats chuck, and bisping beats wandy, i might stop following mma or at least ufc for a bit, i would need a couple months off to recover.
Im with you on that one! That would be horrible on so many levels!
And i have a lot of favourite fighters that i follow almost religously, Chuck being just one of them, but nothing brakes me down mentally like seeing The Icy One loose. I know its a sport and loosing and getting KTFO is a part of it, but seeing Chuck on the canvas like that and after his loss to cocky arrogant Rashad… damn, that fucking broke my heart lol
Guess its true what they say, you will always have a special place in your heart for your first true love :p
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 9, 2010 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
That bothered me a lot too. I dont like Rashad and Chuck is a long time favorite of mine so I was totally biased. I felt better after Rashad fought Lyoto tho lol
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by enzo-enormous on Feb 9, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
"oh yea - it bothered me"
You can tell that it really did bother him and that Tito had crossed that line basically because he likes himself talk so much and putting the finger on someone’s wound is oh so much fun.
So honestly I’m expecting to see some MMA-justice here, 3rd win by knockout for Chuck.
You know, MMA-justice. The good guy, and/or the more technical fighter wins over the bully. Ideally with a submission after getting beat up a bit.
“good job Tito, good job”
Tito is about to become, Chuck's Ken Shamrock...
There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman".
What scares me about this is that...
Tito could, just maybe, pull it off. Chuck falls to sleep now faster than I do when my wife puts in a Twilight DVD. Tito looks as mediocre as he always has 0-3-1 in his last 4 but Chuck has looked downright awful 1-4 (3 comas) in his last 5.
We will then NEVER hear the end of it. “I beat Chuck this…”, “I beat Chuck that…”. Just let me eat my breakfast in peace before I commit suicide.
Really what does this fight prove? If Chuck wins, he will be 3-0, which only proves what we already have evidence of…he has a better career than Tito. In Tito wins, great, he is still 1-2 against “The Iceman”. What does that prove? Chuck’s decline more than Tito’s ability. I’m sure Tito will try to rewrite history if he pulls if off by saying that the first two were flukes. Then again Tito is just enough of a douchebag to blow his golden chance at a piece of redemption.
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If Tito wins
It’ll be a win over the system not Chuck. Hell if he got fed guys without takedown defense he’d have a similar record to Chuck who has been given guys he’s “supposed” to beat his whole career, atleast that’s what the UFC thought everytime they signed him to fight.
point is they could easily give Tito winnable fights, styles make fights.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Do you mean like...
An undersized Patrick Cote on short notice, or a still novice Forrest, or an ancient Ken Shamrock…three times (then a title fight, as if beating Ken Shamrock earns you a title fight), or THE Elvis Sinosic. No you’re right, Tito never gets gift fights. LOL.
If Tito blows this fight, he will be winless in last 5 fights. Don’t they have to cut him if he can win in five fights? Let’s see him get a “world record contract” from Shark Fights or some super fringe promotion after he drops this fight. My prediction if Tito drops this fight (especially if he talks a ton of crap, which he will during TUF 11) that we will see a new movie on the internet in a few weeks: Jenna Loves Tito. Sorry I just partially threw up in my mouth at the thought of it.
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Oops...
Worst….typist…ever!
Don’t they have to cut him if he can’t win in five fights?
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How ‘bout they give him his rematch against Rashad or wait no they matched Shad up against Chuck cause Dana knew Tito beat him and that would equal an easy win for Chuck, didn’t happen and then they let Shad fight Forrest for the title? a guy who Tito’s also beat be real here, you know reality.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
I dont post on here that often but....
One thing ive noticed is roberto rarely knows what the fuck he’s talking about.
by ItsNormlToSmokePot on Feb 9, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
This is an argument where there are no winners
Knock it the f*ck off. All of you.
Chuck was given his share of gimmies, as was Tito, but both also beat stellar competition. I am not going to go through piece by piece on this whole thread and point out all the glaring flaws but calling Forrest “still green” when the cat had 14 fights and had been fighting since 01 with good quality wins and fights against elite competition even before his time in the UFC is pretty damn retarded.
I never understood why the Liddell fanclub is so quick to tear Tito’s career down, when those two wins mark two of his most significant wins ever.
The UFC also gave Liddell a lot more grapplers than they did strikers, besides the Tiger White’s of the world. They also gave Tito his rematches with a faded Shamrock and Sinosic. That first Shamrock win wasn’t bad at all though. On that same note, Franklin was given a title shot after a win against Shamrock but he gets no flack for it, and all this credit for beating Tanner, a guy Ortiz slammed into oblivion.
The same holes can be punched in Randy’s career. He was fed title shot after undeserved title shot over and over and over again. Never once did he have to work his way up the ladder.
The same is also true of Wandy, who spent the majority of the time stomping Japanese MW’s. I could play this game with almost any fighter.
Does that mean these guys weren’t great fighters? Hell no. They are all legends and the bickering about them is all dumb,
Agreed
Chuck, Tito, Randy and Wandi are all legends and in their primes were superb LHWs and p4p greats. Picking apart their records and dismissing their success is just plain revisionism. None of them are world class fighters today, though Wand and Randy can still be competetive whilst Chuck and Tito are both done, but in their day they were superb fighters and you have to be a liar or an idiot to deny that.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
I wouldn't be so quick
To close the book on Tito. I still think he could beat several guys in the top ten. Is he a p4p fighter anymore and a future LHW champion? That is doubtful, but if he did that well against Forrest coming off such a long lay off that leaves a lot of potential out there(and supposedly he was injured again, but whatever)
yeah…. but he has been “injured” in every loss
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by enzo-enormous on Feb 9, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Roberta you sound dumber every post with your retarded tito nuthugging
Chuck wasn’t fed fighters he was supposed to beat, he fought and beat every fighter in his division. Renato sobral, tito ortiz, vitor belfort, randy couture, hell add overeem and his fight with wandy. He beat everyone, only rampage had his number. Those weren’t cans he was fed, those were the best in his division and he beat there asses. Look at the strikerdave post, Tito was the one who was given the easy fights to pad his record and it still isn’t very impressive.
so the UFC are not able to sign new fighters to their divisions? they chose what type of fighters they have in their divisions, those guys weren’t cans but stylistically good matchups for him, you can make almost any fighter lose by giving them bad stylistic matchups.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
sign new fighters? what u talkin bout willis?
Chuck faced top compeition. All those named above. So, all the guys he fought were stylistically good matchups for him?? Even tho they are different styles??
Even Tito comes up with better excuses :)
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
yeah he faced the top competition they had, doesn’t make them the best fighters in the world. Pride had better fighters at that time or let me say the best strikers which was all Chuck did, would he have beaten Lil Nog, Shogun, Wanderlei and those guys back then? I doubt it, so as i said you can make almost anyone lose if you give them a bad stylistic matchup, it’s not about Tito or anyone specifically but be sure the promoters chose matchups carefully for the fighters they want to be at the top.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
He beat wandy, overeem and vitor
Are they not great strikers, and did wandy ever beat lil bog and shogun, umm no. He got destroyed by vitor and lost to tito so I guess wandy is nothing also according to you. Shogun fought lil nog in a great fight but never fought wandy and he lost to renato sobral, so your argument is retarded.
All of these fighters
were good and the petty career assassination toward any of them is pretty shallow and based only on personal dislike.
Chuck Liddell was busy smacking the snot out of grapplers with no striking fed to him who were terrified of his standup and couldn’t get him down while Wandy was busy curb stomping pro wrestlers and judokas. Both careers have flaws if we want to nitpick. What is the point? They are all legends.
Tanner, Bohlander, Mezger, Belfort, Silva, Griffin and the first Shamrock bout all represent quality wins over UFC champions. Add in quality wins over a game Cote, top ten wrestler Matyushenko and Yuki Kondo and that is a pretty damn good career. 7 of his 15 wins are over UFC champions still in or entering into their competitive primes.
So wandy, belfort, overeem, mezger, white are grapplers
Ppls arguments against liddel are pathetic he beat belfort, ortiz, couture, wandy, overeem, monson, randleman, sobral, horn, he was the best 205er of his time bottom line.
He was a very good mma fighter at his time
but best 205er of his time? you have the stomach to call me biased? dude chill out, he lost to Rampage after being outstruck taken down and smashed! He beat Wanderlei Silva when Wand was clearly out of his prime and had just moved to the US we didn’t get to see them fight in their primes in Pride cause Chuck got beat.
mma guru, vernon white sucks real bad, Chuck would probably lose to a Vitor in his prime. Monson, Randleman, Horn, Couture, Sobral are all grapplers and one of Chuck’s best qualities has always been his takedown defense.
you can argue all you want for Chuck and be right about some things but lets just say the guy lost striking matches to JARDINE, Couture 1 time before being taken down, Shogun, taken out by Page in 2 mins.
Would Tito be better than Chuck for beating Rashad? no, but his style was better suited to win over Rashad.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
RoBerto
your arguments get weaker with every post. He fought the top guys in his division, regardless of their styles. Couture is not primarily a grappler, he stood with Chuck all 3 fights. If he fought all strikers you woulda said “oh, he didn’t fight any grapplers, that’s his only weakness – he was fed strikers”. Yes, he lost to Rampage, but that goes to show that they’ll bring anyone in to fight Chuck. If Dana was feeding him wins, why would he bring in a guy who already smashed Chuck??? Yeah, he lost to Jardine cuz he was on the decline after the Page fight. And you dare reference the Shogun knockout, when it’s obvious his better days were past.
You’re right, he was fed easy fighters, cuz feeding a “young” Randy 3 times is easy.
Tito’s last real win was in 04 in a split decision against Belfort. Forrest beat him both times. The only person gettin’ fed easy fights was Tito. Tito just cares about gettin’ easy fights, not facing top competition. All he does is call out weaker opponents – fuck, he called out a guy from UFC 1 three times!! Ken was turning 39 when he fought Tito for the first time, tito was 29. Three years later, he’s still callin’ him out. Now, he’s callin’ out Coleman, Im not surprised.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Tito’s last real win was in 04 in a split decision against Belfort. Forrest beat him both times. The only person gettin’ fed easy fights was Tito. Tito just cares about gettin’ easy fights, not facing top competition. All he does is call out weaker opponents – fuck, he called out a guy from UFC 1 three times!! Ken was turning 39 when he fought Tito for the first time, tito was 29. Three years later, he’s still callin’ him out. Now, he’s callin’ out Coleman, Im not surprised.
The above is what happens when you let personal opinion color the facts and trick yourself into believing falsifications. An extreme form of this is when a con artist tricks an all-alone mother into believing he is her deceased son and she plays right along, even if he is six inches too tall and has different colored eyes.
Belfort fight happened in 05, first off, and secondly Tito beat Forrest originally and Forrest would be the first to tell you that now. Secondly, Tito beat Rashad on the cards but a BS point deduction cost him the win, and lastly, even if he barely lost, Tito still fought Forrest hard in a dogfight. Had he not faded in the third round he probably would have won that one as well. Even if he doesn’t have a lot of official “wins”, he has still shown himself to be a top level fighter even in losing causes. Tito only fights about once a year you know.
Shamrock in their first meeting may have been 39 but he was just coming off an absolute war with Don Frye in Pride and was not a faded fighter just yet(I think this fight is where he turned the final corner though)
Most of Tito’s fights are against top competition in his career.
Intellectual dishonesty or subconcsiously ignoring the real facts of his career, it doesn’t matter, you are wrong about Ortiz and are a blind hater.
Wolfgangsta
what falsifications? In my opinion, Forrest won both fights. I know Tito got the decision, but I thought Forrest shoulda won (29-28). The second fight wasn’t even close.
you;re right it was 05 since Tito’s last real win, not 04, my bad.
How did Tito beat Rashad? I remember Tito holding the fence and gettin a point deducted. Those rules are part of the sport. Next time, don’t hold the fence. He knew the rules.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
I have never once met an objective fan who seriously thinks
Forrest won that fight. Forrest even said when he rewatched he knows he lost.
That point deduction was highly irregular. Regardless, the fact he was in close fights recently with the last two LHW champions should tell you enough.
If he had only grabbed the fence once it would have been a BS deduction. He did 3 times before losing a point and continued to do it afterward. The reason for the fence grabs was that Rashad kept picking Tito up for slams, which Tito avoided by . . . wait for it . . . GRABBING THE FENCE. If Tito doesn’t grab the fence Rashad wins an easy decision or stops him with GnP.
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I could just as easily counter with Rashad being greased up, which he was, or him poking tito in the eye. fact is Tito and Rashad fought at the very least even and entirely subjective arguments based on assumptions could be made either way.
This tells me Tito can’t be all that bad of a fighter.
Talk all you want...
But in their primes, Chuck ruled all with an iron fist.
Chuck beat Randy two out of three times while Randy was in his Pa-rime. No one else will ever be able to say this. This was also right around the time that Randy tossed Tito around the cage like a pimp throws around a non-producing whore.
Secondly, Chuck knocked Tito senseless TWICE in two chances. This is around the time Chuck was ruling the division and Tito was having side show fights against Shammy.
Sorry dude, head-to-head and against common opponents, Chuck rules all at 205.
Rampage is awesome, yes he beat chuck twice. No shame in that. Let’s se what Rampage would do to Tito…anyone, anyone.
Tito has all sorts things that explain his wins. Chuck got all of his against guys in their prime. Besides, isn’t a grappler someone that presents a difficulty to Chuck? Are you really trying to discredit him for having a solid takedown defense? So was he fed grapplers with the knowledge that he had superior takedown defense or should he have been fed strikers that would stand against his strength? Which is it?
PS- You can say Chuck beat Wandy when Wandy was past his prime, but I also believe that Tito beat Wandy before Wandy entered his.
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Less than a year after that fight
Wanderlei dominated Dan Henderson was a monster in Pride. Tito was just a bad match for him.
Chuck was fed favorable match ups by the UFC concsiously. I don’t see why you can’t accept that and still accept him as one of the best 205’rs ever.
It’s ok, I promise.
And...
And Henderson wasn’t near his prime either…it may still be happening. Wandy turned into the Wandy we all know about during the 4 fights after Tito… watch them, you can almost see him develop like a poloroid picture.
Sorry dude, nobody is fed Randy Couture 3 times. Especially when Randy was the Randy he was then. Also, Monson, Randleman, Belfort (or is he too much of a wrestler for you?), Sobral (beat Shogun was SF champ), Overroids, Horn (the guy has 84 wins, 84!) etc.
Chuck’s last 20 fights, he faced 16 past, current , or future (they later won it) champions of a MAJOR promotion. And went 14-6. The crowd jewel being the trilogy victory over Randy Couture, who many argue has had the most successful career (i.e. the greatest fighter) in history. Maybe Randy isn’t but he is in the conversation.
Compare that to say Tito when you take out the three Shamrock gifts wins is only 12-7. And hasn’t stopped anybody but Shamrock since 2001…and that was Sinosic. LMFAO.
The sad thing is I can really go on about how pathetic Tito’s career is.
It’s okay for you to acknowledge that Chuck is the top 205’r of all time. Because really who else is? Wandy? Chuck beat him when they were both out of prime. Randy, see above. Who else?
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Yo fruitcake, read all of my comments please
before flipping your wig and mashing your keyboard. I never said Chuck wasn’t the GOAT. Liddell is the greatest 205’r of all time. But Tito is close behind and is arguably the second best.
Anyway, Hendo had already won both a UFC tournament and a Rings tournament and was considered one of the absolute best in the world. You no doubt have never seen the fight, but the commentators were discussing the significance of a Wanderlei Silva win over Henderson because he was so highly regarded. 100% wrong partner.
You can say Wanderlei Silva wasn’t in his prime, but he KO’s Mezger, beats down Hendo, and KO’s Sakuraba in under 12 months following that fight, so think what you want.
Randy, a wrestler who only learned boxing at age 38 charging forward at a any striker trying to trade blows would have ended the same exact way. Those Randy wins are good, but lets leave them where they are.
I like Chuck, he is one of my favorite fighters. In fact all time my favorite fighters are Liddell, Wanderlei, Randy, Crocop, Tito and Fedor. I was mearly playing devil’s advocate to career assassination.
Liddell got a lot of favorable match ups in the UFC. His only real striker wins against any decent striker come in Pride against Uberoids and Mezger, two fights where he got rocked and hurt in and came back. Vitor is the one true striker he faced in his entire UFC career, and Tito beat him as well. So did Randy. That win is good, but stop hanging your hat on it.
Ultimately bud, a lot of this is perspective. Liddell haters can look at what I’ve said and see an overrated brawler, protected from strikers by the UFC, or his fans can look at what you posted and see the greatest of all times.
You posted a good defense to the “Liddell never faced strikers” argument, and I buy into a lot of that…
By the same token here is what I said about Ortiz –
Tanner, Bohlander, Mezger, Belfort, Silva, Griffin and the first Shamrock bout all represent quality wins over UFC champions. Add in quality wins over a game Cote, top ten wrestler Matyushenko and Yuki Kondo and that is a pretty damn good career. 7 of his 15 wins are over UFC champions still in or entering into their competitive primes.
It’s all perspective, since you’re an Ortiz hater, who has personal dislike for him, you fail to see all the good in his career.
But that is stupid, because as a Liddell fanboy, which you clearly are, even at the sake of all logic, breaking down Ortiz’s career erases two of Liddell’s best wins.
Not quite...
Tito is a product of timing. Not his punching the ring but of the state that MMA was when hes was actually trying to win fights instead of making money.
Concerning Hendo, I can give you that but that was 4 fights for Wandy AFTER Tito. He really changed, you can tangibly see Wandy become a different fighter in the Mezger fight. Titio had the good timing to fight Wandy before he went of his wave of mutilation. 12 months yes, but 4 fights.
All Chuck can do is beat he guys in front of him. In his prime he did. Chuck is the G(205’r)OAT.
Tito isn’t even close to second best. Wandy went on to have a way better career. Randy; better career; Shogun; better career and more to come. Machida is way on track for a better career (if not already). Sorry but history has proven that Tito isn’t in the same category.
As far as being a fanboy of Chuck, not really. I admire what he did but don;t really care. As far as hating Tito, yep. But I didn’t just start off hating him. He developed into a talentless blowhard and earned my hatred. Pretend I am biased, but I am spot on with all of my assessments.
Let look at Tito’s fightography:
One thing, I consider split decisions a tie. I know they count as a win or loss but basically it comes down to 1 of the three judges seeing 1 round a certain way. Too subjective to really. Besides, would samurais (which martial arts is based on) stop after 15 minutes and ask someone else who won. Anyway, that’s my opinion on split decisions.
Forrest 2- Loss. Split decision but somehow one judge thought Tito won the third round. Joke. VClear cut win for Forrest
Lyoto- Loss. BTW, you don;t get to take credit for things you almost did Tito. You failed at the sub attempt
Rashad Draw – He admitted he was cheating. “if your not cheating…”
Chuck 2 – Epic fail.
Ken 3– So out of prime that it doesn’t even matter
Ken 2– So out of prime that it doesn’t even matter
Forrest 1 – Split decision (see above). People who watch that fight see that Forrest won rds 2 & 3
Vitor– ANOTHER split. Okay, I’m seeing a pattern
Cote– A decision against an undersize guy who fought on short notice. Worthless win
Chuck 1 – Epic fail
Randy – Epic, epic, fail, fail
Ken 1 – So out of prime that it doesn’t even matter
Janitor – Okay a legit win (2001,btw) but still couldn’t finish him.
Elvis – His last finish of a guy not named Ken Shammrock (2001, btw) Also, Elvis is the glass Joe of MMA, his sub over Horn was a fluke history proves it.
Evan– RIP but undersized and history has proven him to be over rated as well. How did he really ever beat legitimately.
Kudo– Okay a legit win but against a guy who wasn’t really that talented , history proves it
Wandy– Pre prime, sorry just a fact
Frank Shamrock – Epic fail
Guy 2– Again an over rated guy History proves it,
Bohlander – joke
Screeton – Joke and 0-1 when he fought Tito
Guy 1– Fail
Albritton – joke , his only fight
Not exactly that great when you really look at it. Take out the Ken gifts and he is 12-7. Not exactly great.
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I would post a lenthy reply to all the tremendous errors but
A. You’ve really lost touch with not counting splits as wins, then in your breakdown counting a split loss against him.
B. Saying things like Bohlander is a joke shows me you don’t know much about MMA prior to the TUF era, not that your ignorant statements about Hendo and Wandy didn’t as well.
Most MMA fans got on board with Tito-Chuck II, leading to the mass perception Tito isn’t or wasn’t very good, and some wikipedia and revisionist history does the rest.
Only Vitor is a respectable
UFC win during their primes. Mezger and Overeem were Pride fights. The crux of the argument was the UFC set Liddell up with knockout friendly matches, and there is some truth to that. But it is besides the point, Liddell was still great.
And if we want to play this game, we could knock Vitor down about three pegs too and you know it. But like I said, this career assassination is pretty dumb.
Good point...
At least a win by Chuck would even out the three gift wins in Tito’s record.
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I hope Tito retires and starts doin Geico commercials, but then again he'd probably forget his lines...dumbass
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Both guys stopped in the time and didn’t accompanied the evolution of the new generation of fighters. Liddell is a beast. I believe he can strike face-to-face against any light heavyweight. He has the power in his hands and the way to land hard hits. I’m pretty sure he will beat Tito Ortiz and it’ll be disgunting for the big head.
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