MONDAY MORNING BLACKBELT
by kevjack115 on Feb 8, 2010 1:44 PM EST
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PrintWhat an interesting night and week leading up to the event. I was very wrong in my picks and have no problem admitting it! I wasn't overly impressed with this event at all. Thiago was very impressive in victory and to get wins over 2 of the 3 AKA guys that won't fight each other is a great accomplishment. I know I'm in the minority, but I've always been a Serra fan, what a good win for him, now if we could only see him a little more active. The real "story of the night is Chael Sonnen.
Sonnen talked so much shit leading up to this fight, that he got his name onto every mma website almost everyday last week. He totally dominated Nate, and even though I've never been a fan of Nate, I for one was very surprised. Why though, because the UFC told me to be? Because the odds makers told me to be? Nate had an interview possted from a documentary about Matt Lindland where he criticizes the structure of the UFC and mma in general. He said (and I'm summarizing, not quoting) in the olympics and international wrestling "meets" there is a structure so that the best wrestler comes out on top and then he is the "best wrestler in the world." He goes on to say that the UFC on the other hand puts guys that they can market into these top spots and build them up into superstars. Now I kinda shrugged it off as Chael being Chael, but I knew there was some truth to it... fast forward to saturday night. Don't get me wrong, do I feel that all 5 major titles are held by the best in that weight? Yes all but maybe LHW, but then look at the "contenders." Frankie Edgar, Hardy, Mir, Cain and Carwin. One of these guys is a former champion and has payed his "dues" in the UFC.
The main event sat. goes on to further prove what Chael says (bear with me, this is where I babble). Randy Couture comes into this fight off of a controversial win over Brandon Vera (which I felt Vera one, and 2 losses in a row before that, yet is a "top LHW contender." Now I and a lot of other guys picked Coleman to beat this "contender." We didn't realize that Coleman was going to age 40 years in the last 6 months, I mean what the fuck, where was the coleman that fought Bonnar or Shogun? Or did he dominate a guy that is so weak in Bonnar (but the UFC told us he was pretty good) and we bought it?
Further proof that the UFC is into telling us who the contenders are instead of structuring it correctly, after the fight, Dana White said Randy is "top 5 LHW." Really? would you ike me to list the 7-10 guys off the top of my head that would knock Randy's head off? Do you want me to add to it guys that are fighting at MW that would beat his ass down at LHW (wand, Silva and yes I'd take Bisping)? Randy is 100% top 5 over 40. Finally there are the "official" rankings that are in USA today and compiled by... I believe Bloody Elbow. They are supposedly an mma web site, yet they have guys like Ray Mercer and King Mo in their top 25. Why??? name recognitiion? Mark Coleman is #25 on their LHW rankings. Stop drinking the UFC cool aide guys, they are the same entity that told you Nover would be the next anderson Silva or GSP, faggot is having seizures he's so nervous to get in there.
The UFC needs to have a tournament, invite the best in the world to compete and have it be a non-UFC event. Get the top 8 guys in each weight class and have it structured to get 1 Champion (sorta the undisputed champion of the world). Dana shouldn't be too scared, he has most belts locked up. Oh and guys, Melvin Guillard wouldn't even be in that tournament. I'm a huge Melvin fan, but you guys saying he and BJ should fight should let the comments come from the big boys, because last time I checked, Melvin has no ground game to speak of! alright homies, I know I'm forgetting something, but have at it!
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Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I like the idea of the tournament. Sonnen ruined my clean sweep. Randy was a lock over Coleman. I saw that one coming a mile away. Ray Mercer in the top 25 invalidates that entire list. Ridiculous.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
we all know that tourney WILL NEVER HAPPEN EVER
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Sonnen and Thiago were the most impressive fighters of the night. If only Nate could have held onto that choke a little longer…
I doubt Sonnen gets an immediate title shot. Watch him have to fight another contender bout while Anderson goes back up for another foray at 205.
All in all, a real stinker of an event. The worst display of stand-up in general I’ve seen on a UFC card for a while. Sloppy, sloppy stuff. Listening to Rogan and Goldberg stroke Randy’s shaft after beating a stiff old man in Coleman weas hilarious. I think several of the event’s security guards would have beat Mark up on Saturday. He is soooo done, and so is Trigg. Awful.
Goldberg and Rogan were especially atrocious on Saturday. A little professionalism, please.
Maia once again looked tiny at 185. Although his striking has improved, he will not beat top middleweights standing up, and needs to improve his strength and his double-leg if he wants to compete at the highest level. Those BJJ trips are fancy, but work about 5% of the time against a good wrestler.
Can’t wait for UFC 110 and the cards to come. Dana really should have put this event on Spike once his other main events all fell through.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
“I doubt Sonnen gets an immediate title shot. Watch him have to fight another contender bout while Anderson goes back up for another foray at 205.”
agreed
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I thought the fights were exciting
The card played out much more exciting than it looked on paper. A couple of good upsets. I had low expectations for the main event and it proved worse than expected, because the Hammer didn’t show up at all. But overall I thought there were a lot of good fights.
I think Trigg was winning that fight till he got caught. His boxing looked better than it ever has before. He’ll never be a Top5 again, but I’d say he can still hold his own in the middle ranks.
I expected Sonnen to be tougher than others were saying, but he went WAY beyond my expectations. I think the only reason he doesn’t get a title shot is that Anderson is afraid of wrestlers and Dana is handpicking his opponents.
I was really impressed with Phil Davis‘s debut. Extremely strong legs and low base, superb top-control. He’s definitely one to watch. .
I knew Thiago would kill Swick. Swick is a decent fighter, but he gets a lot more hype than he warrants, mostly because of his vastly superior teammates.
Wow, I don’t know what the hell you saw in Trigg’s boxing that impressed you. He looked terrible.
I guess some people enjoyed this event a lot more than my friends and I did. There just wasn’t one fight I was really pumped up for, and I found that unlike most cards I’m not that excited for, I wasn’t pleasantly surprised by any of the fights.
Nice to see you’re still around btw, Sho.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
that a great assessment!
I usually am very surprised and impressed by the so called shitty cards…this one not so much!
Why did Shonuff say Trigg looked good at all?
The fight was 30 seconds long and Trigg didn’t even land a leg kick. Trigg looked like shit and complained about an early stoppage AGAIN. I am sick of Trigg, not sure how he got another UFC contract, but it needs to be ripped up.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
I don’t think he is under contract to the UFC after this last fight. I sure as hell hope not.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
he jabbed the top of Serra's head for 2 min then got KOed...and he looked fat and out of shape...he'll be cut soon if he hasn't already been cut
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
exactly
I like Trigg as a commentator
be sure to rec this guys, i think it’s a good debate, hate to see it get lost in the shuffle
Done.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I had 50 comments in an hour
and everyone wants to be like me and try to get good topics going, so unless we rec the good ones they get lost fast!
thanks guys!
LOL @ "and everyone wants to be like me"
What?! haha
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
haha...made me laugh.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
wtf are you doing awake bro?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
KEV - That's because 40% of the comments are from you!!!
lol, j/k and busting balls!
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
I think he's got his FanPosts hooked up to an alarm or something that notifies him anytime someone makes a post
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I had just got home from work and no Mike, rerun ur numbers, it’s like 10-20%, and u make a fanpost not about Brock or BJ and try getting 250 comments…and 100 consistently …
BUDDY
One day when I got enough spare time I'd love to
but I really can’t take that much time at work any more. Back in the day yes. But not now.
Kevy Kevy Kev Kev, was there sarcasm with the BUDDY or did I interpret wrong? Always love the blackbelts.
You know what, I will now do the count. And it will be higher than 10%
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
I guess 20%
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
243 comments total
minus my 3 joking about your comments = 240
And I just HAVE to subtract 15 for the waaay of course conversation resulting in a Chevy Chase photo. I couldn’t even read much further, so I’ll give you credit for the rest.
240 – 15 = 225
Kev’s comments = 38
16.9%
YOU WIN!!!! But its probably because you were at work and couldnt keep commenting!!!!
LOL, keep up the good work Kev!!!! Always look foward to a blackbelt.
Howd you do on superbowl bets?
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
LOLOL
That’s what I thought, but the all caps on a line all by itself threw me off!!!!
I was sitting here at work laughing out loud as I counted your posts, it made my day!!!!
When I first posted about it , it was closer to 30% I thinks… lol
And now, after these 2 posts, your ratio has increased!!!!
Much luv for ya pal!
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
He's pumping his numbers up by over-posting?
I smell some bullshit with these MMBB’s.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
point is
look at all the fanposts, take my 40 out of this one and I still got more than all combined. except macs picks.
you know what, fuck you guys, and If I don’t do a mmbb, you guys all complain, you’re all like my wife!
lol
they're good...the rec'ing of other threads has gotten a little out of control though....
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
they're meaning MMBB's
I just don’t see why nearly every poll has to be rec’d these days…there are polls everyday, not one better than the other
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I agree
I’m not being arrogant or a dick, people seem to enjoy the MMBB’s, so they should be rec’d to the top simply because so many guys are starting (shitty) topics, the good ones get bumped off really fast, no offense!
I was playing, you know that Kevin
I look forward to the MMBB’s. And I agree with MAC. Everyone is posting these polls and they take away from the important stuff.
I don’t care how many posts you drop in your BB’s Kev, most of the time the posters are talking to you anyway, so you have to answer them. It would be stupid if you didn’t.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
lol
never thought anything other than you were playing jay, and yes, most of the time I’m answering a question. It’s not like I’m just typing
one
two
three
I figure he waits by the screen for somebody to answer...lol j/k
but seriously, at 7:15am this morning, it was like what? 4:15am there? I typed something into this thread and sure enough, kev happened to reply…I had a good chuckle about that :) I know it was just luck but you can see how I found it funny
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
absolutely
especially since I usually don’t check in until I wake up. I just happened to not be too tired after work this morning. Of course I check in, just as you do on your pick em threads
dam right I do...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
where did your name get thrown into this mess?
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Kev: everyone wants to be like me
Kev a few posts lower: lol, that was a pw type comment huh
Not that it isn’t true, just kind of out of the blue.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
lol
was wondering when you would comment on that. I’ve (over the years) been able to gauge ur personality, and now with FB see that I’m dead on, so yes, it was a pw type comment.
saw that u follow Buffet, I saw him this year for the first time in years (I used to go every year in my late teens and 20’s) at the neil young concert
Neil Young is one of my Favs
I saw Greendale at the ACC in a box…
I was so happy when Crazyhorse got on stage and the theatre ended.
Never would peg’d Kev for a Neil Young fan.
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
it was bridge school benefit
neil young
jimmy buffet
gwen stefani
gavin rossdale
cold play
who am I forgetting? it was great, all accoustic!
Trigg is a HORRIBLE commentator!
And that was a very justified stoppage, but those jabs were solid and connecting clean. He was beating Serra to the punch and landing much cleaner shots.
no offence but I didn't see that fight...Trigg was pawing him at best...every jab hit the top of Serra's head...he was fighting for points
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Serra was toying with him going to the body.
then knocked him out at his first attempt of going to the head. Serra and Thiago were the only 2 fighters that brought some fireworks, the rest were onesided and filled with guys who looked to have less technique than streetbrawlers.
Poor poor card, I think cards like this one really “exposes” the quality of the UFC’s weight classes and their plans of (lying) marketing certain fighters to the fans who are not that good, it’s pathetic and makes you feel ill.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
if trigg was fighting me then maybe he standup woulda looked descent.
and im cutting him some slack. they need to cut him, he’s done and has nothing left to offer the ufc.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
Told ya! Not PPV worthy!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't worth it if you had to pitch in the entire amount
But if you had 2 or 3 buddies at least it was well worth it.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
ya OJ...some of the weakest cards end up being the most exciting...your starting to sound like John
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
its True...John went on about how boring this card was on THURSDAY!!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
he called miss cleo
I can’t believe you guys aren’t talking more about Sonnen and his assessment of the UFC making guys popular over their fighting abilities doing it!
I agree with Sonnen, so I can't trash him for that comment
I only talk about Sonnen in a negative way.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
me too...negative about Sonnen or nothing
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
LOL
I’ve noticed you didn’t mention anything good about his beating of Marquardt. I will talk about him when I have something negative to say.
This is the only time I will ever say anything good about him…..He crushed Nate, I didn’t see that coming AT ALL.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Say what you want about Sonnen
He just keeps on backing up his trash talk though.
hes well spoken and brings up very good points. He is perhaps the most cynical person ever but who cares. I’m a fan. (before the nate fihgt)
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
He's honest and knows what he is talking about
But something about his face makes me hate him. Maybe it’s the hair?
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Sorry but worst hair of the night goes to Trigg
and the mold on his head
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
How bout Chuck?
He had no Mohawk?
Tirgg, Chuck and Tito have all been rocking the pubic fuzz on their heads
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
Is that his excuse for trying to be the biggest arsehole possible?
The UFC do get carried away with promoting personalities over talent, which is why the likes of Baroni, Coleman, Ortiz and Trigg got brought back when they’re all past it and is why Chuck and Randy continue to main event PPVs or in title contendership fights despite there being much better fighters in their weight class. The fact that Kimbo has been hired purely for ratings is worrying as well, though in general if you don’t have the talent then you get found out pretty quickly.
Right now the only reason that guys like Hardy and Edgar are getting title shots is that GSP and BJ are so good that they’ve beaten everyone else in their divisions, so unless you want to see endless rematches with involving Fitch, Alves, Kos, Florian and Sanchez or BJ and GSP move up a division then these fights are the best possible ones for the time.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Plus everyone says they would rather see new meat against the champs
People would just complain if GSP was fighting Kos or Fitch or Alves again anyway.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Exactly
I have no problems with those 2 fights, sure they’re mismatches but nobody else has done more than Frankie or Dan to earn a title shot at this point and I’d rather see BJ and GSP beat fresh people than fight the same guys over and over again.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
I like that idea too
If AS, GSP and BJ all moved up we would have a lot of interesting match ups.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
After these fights I hope that they do
Unless the UFC sign some top talent like Aoki, Shields, Melendez or Diaz then there’s nobody left for BJ or GSP to fight unless they move up. I’d rather see that than endless rematches or mismatches, as BJ will just get lazy if he’s not pushed and GSP will quit the sport altogether and try to compete at London 2012 if he has nobody new and relevant to fight.
Andy should move up as well if he plans to go past these next 3 fights, though with Machida and Lil Nog as top contenders that could be a problem. At least Vitor and Sonnen are good opponents for him right now.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
the good thing is Nate lost
GSP said he was waiting for outcome, he and Nate are friends and he didn’t want to go after a title Nate deserved…obviously he doesn’t deserve it!
Good point
Maybe some good will come out of Chael winning afterall, a beatdown from Andy and a GSP run at MW would make up for the lost winnings and pure rage at my least favourite fighter winning.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Silva needs to stay at LHW where he belongs
and vacate the MW title. MW title picture would be a lot more interesting without him and the LHW division will be more interesting with him in the mix. Those guys are closer to his size and talent level.
LOL. Feliz Cumpleanos, David.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
What happened to Nate's BJJ credentials? Overrated or was Sonnen just that impressive?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
he didnt seem to be able to threaten from bottom at all
not much hip movement to create anlges and set up sweeps or subs or even scrambles. He did a lot of holding on and stepping on the hips.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
good question
especially with some guys on here still saying he’s great off his back. he was100% dominated
It's time once again for a new installment of:
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Ode to OJR
Mania’s Richard Grieco
Is from Puerto Rico
Though now he calls Chi-town his home
He loves the big butts
On retarded young sluts
and he laughed when Tito cracked his dome
At UFC 101
He and Kev had some fun
And they even took pictures for proof
OJR, just head west
For bong hits of the best
Tail in Vancouver’s mint and that’s TRUTH!
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
LMFAO. Awesome!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I've always liked these poems
Are they being saved anywhere JJ? I wouldn’t mind being able to read some of the other ones again.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
I have most of them saved somewhere. I’ll repost them one day. Maybe you’re up next week, Jay.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
jay will be excited about that...he's always going on about his dream to have a poem writen about him
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I already have noticed that I've mispelled written
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Haha I was as moaning about this card as soon as Lil Nog-Vera was cancelled
I had little interest in this even in the run-up and wasn’t surprised at all that most of the fights were boring. Not only did this card lack a big fight (no amount of UFC hype can justify a Couture-Coleman main event) but stylistically the card was full of mismatches (Serra-Trigg, Coleman-Couture as Trigg and Coleman are both terrible) or boring fights. Maia-Miller cancelled each other out and Chael Sonnen, as impressive as he has looked recently, is not exciting to watch. I was happy with Thiago-Swick but that wasn’t enough to save this dud of a card.
108 may have lacked star power but you can’t go wrong with Semtex or JDS fights and I enjoy watching Rashad fight, so I was interested in that fight even if it shouldn’t have been a main event either. Thankfully the upcoming UFC and SF cards will blow this one right out of the water, can’t wait for 110 that has some big names and will be stacked with entertaining fights.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Davey, is that you on FB? I accepted a David as a friend, was it you?
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
I think thats brendog jay
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Oh yeah?
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
yea it was me
my anmes david too
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Man, I thought your name was brendan or something
Good to know, bro.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
i usually go by brennan, and people will think its brendan, pisses me off
better than Davey though
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Wow. My nuts hurt from that shot! Ouch!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
you know I got yer back
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Good deal. Glad to know you have your priorities in check.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 9, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think all ufc's are ppv worthy!
At least since I moved to the south. Better than anything else going on down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I buy them all
and there is something to do everywhere, it’s about finding it. i love to go to museums and zoos etc!
STFU!
You’re saying that like you don’t know me! Think I’m going to the zoo? Or better yet a museum? You will see in 18 months!
Kevin’s gonna culture the living shit out of you.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Very nice, Dubs.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
WAR MONET!!!!!!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Great job buddy!
I don’t think that Bisping could ever beat Randy…………..not even ten years from now! He would have to punch and run the whole time to win a decision. Oh and LMFAO on the Nover faggot part! HAHAHA
Coleman's problem on Sat was glaringly obvious...he over-trained
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Colemans biggest weakness is his cardio
his power is really only good for the first round of any fight becauswe once he gets tired his KO power is gone. Let’s be honest Coleman is just above Bonnar calibure. Randy’s biggest strength is his endurance and grappling wich was a horrible match up for Coleman as Randy’s grappling and dirty boxing fatigued and dazed Coleman, when Coleman got up he was panting and had a hard time finding his corner and Randy was just getting warmed up. Is Randy a top five….no but he’s close. Coleman was a step back from Vera and didn’t really prove anything. I would like to see Randy fight any of the top five contenders he may not win but he can challenge any of them and is the greatest fighter over 40 ever.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
I didn't even consider that
But that makes a lot of sense.
I didn’t think Randy looked amazing, he just looked like Randy. But Coleman turned in a very poor performance.
Kev’ just out of curiousity what was the last good MMA event you remember. You seem to be unhappy with most of the new ones???
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
really?
I thought this was the first in a while. I’m usually not too picky and love the ground game. I’ll have to now go back and check…I like the last UFC, this one and the prior strikeforce was terrible!
the last few other than the TUF finally have been outstanding
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
finale
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
i loved SF... but i took it for what it was.
Cyborg fight was great. I was really impressed with Coenen who is now my new womens fav to track. I was even okay with the Herschel Walker and Lashley.
That list is a bit of a joke for the Mercer reason of course… like OJR says it destroys the credibility of it
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
something was wrong with The Hammer
I knew Couture had this in the bag, but Coleman looked gassed in the first 3-5 minutes of Round 1. I don’t know if Randy really rung his bell that hard, but it looked to me more like he was sick or screwed up his weight-cut or something.
yep...overtrained or too much of a warmup backstage...or he was up 5 hours past his bed time...most guys his age are having breakfast at that hour
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Probably hungover like I was yesterday.
I couldn’t even celebrate the Saints winning the Super Bowl!
someone said Melvin should fight BJ?
That’s insane! Melvin might be explosive but imo. doesn’t stand a chance. BJ would end it so quickly on the ground and i would say even has the better hands.
coleman looked gassed from the get go….like McArthur said it did look like he over trained. give coleman a proper camp like jacksons for instance and i believe he would beat tito.
paulo thiagos the man!! i think it was john g who said it in another thread that he hasn’t even cracked the surface
and i believe it too. theres quite a few areas for improvement in his game. i don’t see him being a champion or anything, but he def. could make a run at the belt.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
ya who said that?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Imagine Melvin vs BJ though?
How stupid would that be?
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
Kevin, what are you smoking this week?
Bisping beating Couture??? Don’t be a retard! I’d say Anderson has an 85% chance of beating Couture, but 60/40 Randy beats Wandy (now Wandy, not Pride Wandy). And I give him 50/50 against Rashad, Thiago, Lil Nog, and better than that against Forrest or Jardine. I’d even give him a 1 in 3 chance against Machida. I don’t think he could survive Rampage or Shogun. But I’d put my money on Randy against Cain, Carwin, or Kongo.
Dude what the hell are you talking about? Randy beats now Wandy 60/40 not Pride Wandy? Randy is 46 years old why would you bring up a younger wandy. Of course a 46 year old Randy would prolly lose to Pride Wandy. And Randy 50/50 vs any of those guys is rediculous. And 1/3 vs Machida?? Where are you getting these numbers?
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just my opinion
I think a 46 year old Randy now has a better chance against the Wandy of today than a 40 year old Randy would have had against the Wandy of 6 years ago. I don’t think that’s any stretch. A few years ago Wandy was KOing guys like Rampage, Fujita, and Sakuraba. Now he’s 1:5 in his last six fights. Randy hasn’t deteriorated nearly as much as Wandy.
Ok but let me get this straight. You think Randy beats Lil Nog 50% of the time?
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No, I think he has a 50% chance of beating him one time
sounds like semantics, but there’s a difference, and it’s Randy’s gameplanning. Lil’ Nog is a better boxer than Big Nog, but not as good a grappler. Randy always plays to what he believes to be his opponent’s weakest point, and he often overestimates his boxing, like he did against Big Nog. He wouldn’t make the same mistake against Lil’Nog and would focus on grappling him. Randy would have a slight size and strength advantage over Lil’Nog that he didn’t have against Big Nog. With proper game planning, that could be enough to tip the scales in his direction. Of course, if he does make th same mistake he made before and tries to stand and swat with Lil, he’d get destroyed, but I don’t think he’d do that.
If I were Joe Silva, I’d think about matching Li’l Nog with Randy after Nog kills Forrest. Nog would put an end to Methuselah™ once and for all.
I’d also like to see Bader matched up with Jones, if both fighters win their next fights (which I expect they will). That would establish the winner as the best young up-and-comer in the division.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
JJ you just want to see Randy get KO’d. And come to think of it…. If Lil Nog beats Forrest(which is most likely) I think that makes most sense. And if Randy wins hell give him a title fight.
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I agree there Lil NOG vs Randy would be a excellent match up
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Bones would beat Bader in the first round standing...his grecco will keep them up...but good match making JJ
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Yeah agree
I would like to see Bader face Hamill that would be interesting.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Bader would truck Hamill. His wrestling is way better.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Bader should but Hamill
might be able to keep it standing were I believe he has an advantage.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
It would be good but UFC will have them fighting gatekeepers for another couple years.
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He’ll be back. Dislocated shoulders dont end warriors careers
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You hard of hearing? LOL and thanks i love the sig too. Came to me this morning when checked my account on mmaplayground
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nice
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
fantasy dollars?
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
bro cmon
Randy’s chin is weak. I give Wand a quick KO or a good fight!
Bisping was me making a point. Randy isn’t top 5 in this decade never mind now!
Rashad beats him, shogun beats him, machida beats him, rampage beats him, mousassi beats him, fedor eats him! do I need to really go on?
I'd put Randy at #6 in the UFC LHW
Behind Machida, Shogun, Rampage, Lil’Nog, and Anderson
Even with Rashad
Ahead of Forrest, Rich, Tito, Thiago, and Jardine
I’m withholding Judgement on Mousasi till I see him fight Hendo or someone on that level.
Don't sleep on Tito, Kev
He’s still TOP 10-12. He’s the second or 3rd best wrestler in the division and still has a brutal top game. I hate the guy, but if you look objectively, his last three fights were a very close decision with #5 Forrest, a draw with #4 Evans, and a loss to #1 Machida. Much as I hate the guy, I don’t think there’s any reason to put him out to pasture just yet. He’ll never be TOP 3 again, but he’s still in the TOP 10 discussion. .
good post
tito gets a bad rap for his injuries and excuses and overall point of view towards everything.
But i still beleive if he could shake the teribble jab jab hook, high kick 3 feet away from the other fighter combo he loves, and learns to set up his tds better he could be a threat to anyone,…….he did almost finish Machida
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
I was impressed with machida fight
but go rewatch it, other than triangle attempt, he was dominated. he’s top 10 maybe, but i don’t think so!
His standup showed signs of promise
but you could See Machida reading him like a book, and landign at will. That knee that dropped him hurts to watch
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
No way.
Machida
Rua
Rampage
Rashad
T. Silva
Jardine
Lil Nog
Griffin
Randy
Vera
Chuck
I would put these guys ahead of Tito without even blinking an eye!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thats just my UFC list alone...I am not a Randy lover but he would beat Tito again.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
maybe
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Jardine???
get him out.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Jardine is better than Tito right now. Its not a list of the best just fighters better than Tito right now.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
i'd take tito over jardine
it might be becasue i like tito and dont like jardine.
But also becaue Jardine throws most of his power punches from the inside and I think if tito got close enough to get his hands on him he could get him down and work the GnP, as jardine has no game off of his back at all.
I think the only was Jardine beats Tito is by kicking over and over and over and over and over and over
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Exactly. Jardine will beat Tito. And I think Jardine is a gatekeeper at best.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
good point?
Tito beats Jardine with ease, have you ever seen Tito let his legs get kicked? didn’t happen against Forrest and when it did he took him down.
I have no idea how you can rank Forrest above and say that he beats him when Tito made his comeback after 18 months off from a surgery, i don’t care who it is things like that are gonna have an impact like in the 3rd round when he let Forrest win cause he was gassed.
Tito has a good chance against Thiago Silva and Rashad too, he is still a strong wrestler.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
News flash : I don't hate Tito but he is way past his prime. He lost to Griffin. He would lose to any of the fighters listed above. He is competitive but not the fighter he used to be. Not even close.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
he lost to Forrest just like Shogun did, had he been in better shape the rusult could have and probably would have been different as he took him down with relative ease until the pointe he gassed.
He is past his physical prime but would still beat atleast Jardine with ease! he’s a much better wrestler and Jardine’s standup game is crap!
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
maybe but lets remember Tito took Forest 3 rounds and argueably beat him after 18 months off...on any given night I could see Tito beating Randy Griffin, Jardine, Thiago, and maybe Shad
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
If Griffin had any power in his hands Tito would have had a nap in their rematch.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Who seriously thinks that Tito won that Forrest remach other than Tito and Jenna?
He’s the same old overrated one dimensional Tito who can’t beat top wrestlers and is Freddie Roach’s worst student, I doubt that he ever even trained at the Wild Card gym in the first place. Honestly I don’t have Tito beating anyone relevant again, he’ll probabaly lose to Chuck then retire.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
I agree on the freddie roaches worst student part
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
he's not a student of Freddie Roach
He’s an mma fighter who’s wrestled his whole life, he came over to get some advice and learn some techniques.
McArthur is completely right here, just take Tito’s wrestling and match him up against those guys and you’ll have Tito with a great chance of winning. People forget how he took Rashad down like 10 times in their fight, completely dominant in the wrestling it could happen again, ppl don’t change that much.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
no Rob i completely agree i was just fuckin around
Titos the man
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
I don't know if Chuck can pull it off again
He’s lost his chin and his timing isn’t what it used to be. Strikers don’t age as well as grapplers because they depend more on speed and reflexes, which deteriorate much earlier than strength.
Let me answer your question : vs. Tito = YES.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
BAH!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Delusional Tito fan club : Roberto - president and founder. Mac - vice prez. Brendog - enforcer.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LOL
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
does that mean i'm the muscle?
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Basically yeah.
All muscle, no mind. LOL jk
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
3 is all we need
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
(followed by 3 Amigos dance)
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
At the singing bush?
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
haha..."excuse me, ARE YOU THE SIGNING BUSH?"
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
fuck..not signing...singing...joke fail
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
"FREEZE!!!!!"
Or I’ll fill you so full of lead you’ll be using your dick for a pencil!"
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
don't get me started jay
One of my all time favs!!!
How was Saw 6?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Saw 6 was MEH.
I loved this movie though. I watched it a million times when I was a kid.
“You saw us shoot up, why did you shoot straight?”
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
at El Guapo's birthday..."Its a sweater!!!"
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
it means your indifferent or just don't care
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Meh is used to describe any and every word possible, including:
Yes
No
maybe
kind of
never
always
ok
alright
no thankyou
yes please
look bitch i really dont care so just shut the fuck up
if you want
whatever
If you want
i dont want to really
well
shut up
i dont really care
no honestly, i dont care…
…and is never explained on which is actually used…
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Holy Shit I didn't know that tkk.
I thought it meant what Mac said. I didn’t care for it. It was the same as the first 5.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Just pulled it from a dictionary on slang talk, don't ever use it myself to be honest.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I don't think the UFC will give Randy a title shot with this win
Yes the UFC is trying to bumb up Randy’s status but for good reason. Machida doesn’t want to fight Lil NOG so if Machida wins that takes one of the top five out. Rampage for whatever reason doesn’t want ot fight for the belt(Maybe he has bad dreams about shogun). So if Rampage beatsd Evans and machida wins who will face Machida for the belt?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
I think what really annoys me the most is how Joe Rogan licks Randy's balls so much!
We get it he’s old and can still hold his own in the cage.
By the MMA consensus rankings let's look at the possiblities for a title shot if Machida wins
1 Lyoto Machida
2 Mauricio Rua – Means he lost again
3 Rashad Evans – Most logical if he beats Page if he doesn’t he’s not a possibilty
4 Quinton Jackson – If he wins makes sense to go for the belt but does he want too?
5 Gegard Mousasi – Not in the UFC
6 Forrest Griffin – Another possibility but like Randy needs to face some top contenders Lil NOG?
7 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira – Won’t fight Machida but I think should be rated higher
8 Thiago Silva – Coming off a loss won’t happen anytime soon
9 Anderson Silva – Won’t happen friends
10 Rich Franklin – Needs to win
11 Randy Couture – 3rd on the list behind Rashad and page really?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
if Machida wins AND lil NOG wins, it'll be lil NOG
if Shogun wins and Page wins it’ll be Page imo
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I believe Machida stated he would not fight Lil NOG as they are friends and training partners?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Soares though believes if push come to shove it may happen
Despite Nogueira and Machida being Black House teammates, Soares believes a battle over the belt would be enough for the two to face each other, not out of any disparagement, but out of respect.
“They both want the same thing. Lyoto wants to keep his belt and Rogerio wants it. We’ll cross that bridge when it comes, but I think when push comes to shove if that fight was to come up, I think they’d fight each other. They’re friends they respect each other very much,” Soares told MMAWeekly Radio recently.
But remember the fighters themselves have yet to state this?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
I've read that Lil Nog has said it
But Machida hasn’t .
IMO the TOP 5 guys in the division are (in no particular order)
Machida,
Anderson,
Rampage,
Shogun,
Lil’ Nog.
(This is based on my assessment of their current abilities, not on the rank of recent opponents)
I have Randy and Rashad close behind, and Forrest, Tito, Rich, and Thiago just below them.
sounds accurate...however, if your basing it on current abilities, where's Bones?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I guess not on this guys radar lol
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lol
yeah but shonuff enjoyed this card and said Trigg looked good for 2 min. cmon man, seriously.
and he also said Dana is hand picking Silva’s opponents which was my whole point!
so you’re half right shonuff… which is par for the course (thats a compliment if you’re not a golfer!)!
Bones is green
Like Mousasi, he looks great, but against who? I’m not gonna rank anybody till I’ve seen them fight some top talent.
I believe he will get their but we will see how he does against
Vera before we bring Jones into the equation.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
man I hope Vera wins
I’m a big fan, and ever since the move to LHW he hasn’t looked good. he was definitely robbed against randy
Yeah he's missing something?
He has the ability just seems to me he doesn’t have the killer instinct to finish guys?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
It looks to me like Vera loses alot of speed and power with the cut. Maybe he should be bulking up for HW.
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Jones might just be the quickest and fastest fighter in the division
with his height and reach not to mention strenght he has potential to be a champion.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
I don't know how he takes a punch
Wait until he is losing a fight to give him that sort of respect.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Chances are we wont find out during the Vera fight
He doesnt have his power at 205
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
I don't think Vera is going to touch him either.
I mean Page or Shogun or Lil Nog or something. Someone who is fast enough to touch him and strong enough to hurt him. Vera is neither of those.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Yeah but hes technically sound. And his other opponents were sloppy and not 10 ten skills. People are writing off Vera but i think he would really test Bones’ chin. All that being said i still think bones wins
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Vera is an underachiever always has been
You can’t really rank the guy because he never seems the same from one fight to the next.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
really disappointing becasue hes grappling is really good too
but we have yet to see it
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Oh we've seen it!!!
Randy couldn’t take him down, even from the clinch! When have we ever seen Randy unable to take somone down? Randy even swapped takedowns against 300 lb NCAA national champ. (Brock)
Vera fought a stupid fight. If he stays outside he could have leg-kicked and body-kicked Randy all day long. Instead he tried to grapple with him and gave the judges an excuse to hand it to Randy.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
he had no choice
Vera didn’t CHOOSE to try to grapple with Randy. I’ve never seen Vera choose to grapple with anybody. Randy gave him no choice about that. But the fact that Vera was able to neutralize Couture’s takedown shows that he wasn’t just boasting when he said his greco skills were “rediculous”.
so now your questioning Vera's decision making abilities?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I'm saying
very few people have a choice about whether or not their going to grapple with Randy. One of Randy’s biggest strengths is the ability to rob his opponents of that choice. Win or Lose, Randy almost always dictates where the fight takes place.
That’s that “master gameplanning” that Rogan is always gushing over like a 13-year-old girl at a Jonas Brothers concert.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
not really
more like masterful execution. Unfortunately, his game planning isn’t always that great due to his overestimation of his boxing and sometimes underestimation of his wrestling against other grapplers. Sometimes he makes the wrong strategy and pays for it, but if he wants it to be a standup fight, it’s going to be, If he wants it against the cage, it’s gonna be, and if he wants it on the ground, that’s where it’s going.
I agree Jay but Vera is his best opponent to date. But if they both land big shots it would help show the level Bones is really at. Because his opponents to date have looked terrible against him.
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
I think this Bones/Vera fight is going to be awesome
I’m looking forward to it. But I see the same result for Bones. A win without taking any punishment.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Oops
I rec’d it, but it already had 7.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
It just takes 5 to stick with the top dogs.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
as long as My Pick'Em threads don't fall off I'm happy...it just adds work
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
the one up there now will be deleted tomorrow when the new one goes up fyi
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Agree with Kevin about Randy's place in the division
Machida, Shogun, Rampage, Rashad, Thiago and Rogerio would all KO him in my opinion. I think Jones would beat him, and IMO Vera already did beat him. Randy is somewhere around the 7th or 8th best LHW in the UFC right now. Coleman and Tito are not even on the radar.
I would like to see Randy fight Rich Franklin
I always forget about Franklin
this thread will be a record setter for a non brock related thread (for comments)
Yeah Kev, most people do forget about him
I think its mainly because he has no permanent home as far as a division goes. So many fights at 195, a non-existent division. I think now he will settle at 205 though. For me, Randy v Franklin makes the most sense from a fan and a UFC standpoint. both guys should be fighting big names, but I think most people agree that neither will ever be a legit belt threat again. The UFC could use this as a headliner, and really it would be a huge draw. Plus, the timeline makes sense because Rich said he wanted off until May or June, and has no opponent. Just my opinion, but it makes sense to me.
by domino effect on Feb 8, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
no, you're right
I like the fight, but unfortunately (and I’m a fan of neither) I think Rich doesn’t do well vs good wrestlers!
Rich has beaten lots of good wrestlers. Hendo LnP’d his way to razor-thin decision, but that’s the only time a wrestler got the best of him (and Henderson’s wrestling is unparallelled at that weight).
Rich’s problems seem to come against fast, counter-punching Brazilian strikers!
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 8, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Rich vs Thiago Silva
Both these guys always bring it and this match has fireworks written all over it.
I got a serious question
and I swear I’m 100% not being a dick! Is Ariel Hawani gay or straight and is Chuck drunk in theis video?
http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/null/chuck-liddell-interview/65473535001
who cares and probably yes
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
new ring girl
Hey Kev, since you’re the guy with all the inside info, how about getting us the scoop on the new ring girl. I was really enjoying the few shots they showed of her.
Old news
Both of them accused Kos of faking an injury against Rumble just before they were released, which isn’t a coincidence in my opinion.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
they were both cute
but it’s nice to finally see some variety in the ring girls and the new girl is very attractive
All of them are fit but those last 2 ring girls were really dumb
Nice to look at, painful to listen to.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
they can talk???
love your sig, Dave. Hey, I’ve been gone a while, did anyone ever post a thread on “stupidest comments ever” like I was begging for?
Yeah, it was called "Don't MMA Quote me" I think Bigger Zino did it.
Look for it in the fan posts section…
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Just click on Bigger Zino's profile. I think there should be a list of all his fan posts.
I’ll see if I can put a link on here. One sec.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Shonuff, It looks like that thread was deleted to make room for new ones.
It’s gone.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
yeah Mac asked me to delete it to make room on the rec board
I will do another one sometime – I have some nuggets left over.
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
bummer!
I love reading the retarded stuff that guys like Tito, Goldberg, and the Diaz Bros say. That stuff is timeless and I’d love to see it all gathered together so I can save it as a document. I don’t watch nearly as many interviews and stuff as a lot of you guys, so you provide me with a lot of beauty that I might otherwise miss.
Congrats, kevjack115!
When Chael Sonnen started telling all those shits over Anderson Silva I thought “this guy could beat Nate”. I’m not a fan of Marquardt too but I recognize him as strong fighter provided with good skills standing and onto the floor. Now I hope Soares stops speaking Sonnen has to face Maia to get the title shot. Joe Silva still is the UFC matchmaker.
I’m a real fan of Paulo Thiago. The policeman of BOPE is humble and open to new knowledges and camps to improve his game. Of course he’s on the way to become a big deal in the welterweight division but I’m sure he can put lots of guys in trouble in any aspect of the fight. I’ll talk to him and we, maniacs, will make up some questions for an exclusive interview.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
thats cool... love the idea. I would love to ask PT a question or two
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
ya that would be real cool
1st question…“how many people have you killed?”
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Mac that's a Dwight Schrute question if I ever heard one.
2nd 2 part Question.
Out of the # of people that you have killed.
How many were killed by Police Issued weapons? And
How Mnay were killed by your MMA Techniques?
Follow up question:
Do you have nun chucks?
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
What about an exclusive thread for that?
Of course MMAMania.com has to agree with the job.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
by Eduardo Cruz on Feb 9, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
What do you mean Mr.Cruz? A thread to find the best Questions for PT ?
Just make a fan post and everyone will post their two cents. You can select the most appropriate seeing as how it’s your interview.
I’ve actually wondered if Mania/Jesse would ever let me go around Toronto and interview fighters from this area for the site… I think it would be fun. I just would never do it on my own because who would take me seriously if I didn’t have any brand power behind it.
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
Bigger Zino,
Have you ever talked to Mania staff?
Paulo Thiago interview:
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/2/9/1302532/mma-maniacs-interview-paulo-thiago
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
by Eduardo Cruz on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I never have. I suppose everything starts with an email. Perhaps I should start there. Im not really looking for anything other than the enjoyment of doing it for everyone and meeting fighters myself.
Have you?
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
they're terrible for returning e-mails...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Try the e-mail contact of the website. McArthur, they're not so bad in returning e-mails.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
cool will do.
Thanks Eduardo.
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
bet against the ufc hype (who you picking kev)
are you betting on big nog and wandy?
"When they took away headbutts, I had to learn some skills." Mark Coleman
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