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UFC Quick Quote: Wherever Cain Velasquez takes the fight, 'Minotauro' Nogueira will be ready

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"I’m very excited for the fight. Wherever it goes, I’ll be ready. If he takes me down, we’re going for submissions. My jiu-jitsu will be 100 percent. King Mo is one the best wrestlers in America. We do a lot of single leg and double leg defense. I have a very good camp here. If I [win and rematch Frank] Mir, it will be different. I’ll be in better shape and no injuries. I don’t like how Mir talks. I come from jiu-jitsu. I come from martial arts. I train hard, and I respect my opponent. I will never say anything bad about my opponent. My opponent works hard so that’s my way. I don’t think he shows respect. I think I could fight until 37. I’m in really good shape. I’ll fight until my body tells me I can’t. I feel good. I’m going to do the best show possible."

Mixed martial arts pillar Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1) tells Gary Herman that he's ready for anything in his UFC 110 main event against Cain Velasquez for the promotion's debut "down under" at the Acer Arena in Sydney, Australia on Saturday, Feb. 21. Big Nog is hoping that a dominating win over the rising star, coupled with his victory over Randy Couture last August can put him back into the heavyweight title picture after a 2008 stoppage to Frank Mir temporarily derailed his ascension. Are there too many miles on the Brazilians tires? Or is he merely getting his second wind?

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I don't doubt he'll be ready

I just hope 3 rounds if enough for NOG to catch him

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

he's training with King Mo? Bit of an odd couple. Both guys struggle with English

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing after watching the King Mo / Semtex interview

I didn’t understand a damn thing Mo said the whole time.

"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie

by ---Cole--- on Feb 8, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea King Mo is a white belt under him and Lister.

Mo has so many true world class fn training partners it’s not even funny. If you watch that allelbows documentary on him and see the list, it actually seems ridiculous. He’s always down at Nog’s center in brazil. And his wrestling is a league above Cain so no doubt my Boy will be ready. WAR NOG!!!!

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 8, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

yup, they struggle with english, but if you’ve got to fight Cain Velasquez, there’s not a lot of guys better to bring in to help you prepare for wrestling than Mo and Munoz (since he also works wrestling with the Nogs, although doesn’t struggle w/english).

Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."

by Stillberry on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Cain wins this

I just can’t see Nog handling Cain’s wrestling. I think this will go down like the Sonnen/Marquardt fight. I think Cain will control Nog and beat on him throughout the fight to a UD. It’s an intriguing matchup, no doubt, but Ii haven’t seen anyone that can hang with Cain yet. He’s a powerful and fast guy, who can pound the shit out of someone.

by Slim473 on Feb 8, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

going like Marquardt-Sonnen?

i don’t see that. Nog’s guard is way more dangerous than Nate’s. and Cain hasn’t pounded anyone out since he stepped up in competition to Kongo and Rothwell. and yes, i know he TKO’d Rothwell, but that was because Rothwell wasn’t doing anything, not because Cain actually was hurting him. Big Ben coulda taken those shots from Brown “Pillowhands” Pride all day

Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."

by Stillberry on Feb 8, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

No one can hang with Cain, I beg to differ. I hate Cain’s Racist Pride ass and I DO think he is way overated and hyped only because his appeal to the Hispanic audience or should I say brown audience? With that said, I will shut my mouth on the way over hyped if he tools Big Nog. But, I don’t see a way from him to beat Brock, Carwin or Dos Santos even. I would go as far to say Mir and Nog as well but only time will tell.

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 8, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

are you guys Brits? because I have no trouble understanding him at all

by quidnunc on Feb 8, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, I hope a lot of these guys are going to OZ soon...if not they should think about leaving

I lived there for 1 year, and the flight is VERY long…it’ll take time for the lag to wear off

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

Bisping went already I think

not that that’ll make any difference to that fight

"OH GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING! HE BROKE HIS FREAKIN' ARM"
"hey man that's the business, we're not figure skating"

In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.

by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's go Nog!

I think Nog catches Cain in a submission quickly in this one!

I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett

"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.

by ppwwpp on Feb 8, 2010 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

Nog has this one for sure.

Nog = Great boxing, best off-his-back Jitz in the Division (ridiculous top game)

Cain = Great wrestling, pillow hands, decent chin (always shoots when he gets tagged)

Nog will rock him standing, Cain will shot for the double, leave his neck exposed, Nog will cinch in a tight guillotine, wrap-up guard, and its night-night Cain.

Nog takes this one 85/15.

"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie

by ---Cole--- on Feb 8, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Nogs boxing is terrible

Unless you consider blocking punches with your face a skill

by captainStevo on Feb 8, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

???

 His boxing is much improved, he has always had bocing skills but it was never a focal point for him. Couture has done very well agaisnt some of the best strikers yet NOG destroyed him. NOG has been traing hard with JDS and others with his boxing and is now a threat as part of his game.

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Since when is nog's Boxing horrible?

Both Big and Lil Nog have excellent boxing…

"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie

by ---Cole--- on Feb 8, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yep...they train with the Cuban boxing team

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

or at least they used to

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

His training partner JDS is though as by many as the best hand striker in MMA HW division.

 Last fight against Randy we seen a much better well rounded NOG who used his striking skills very well and has been focusing on the striking more as a tactic and I believe will continue too in this fight against a much weaker striker than Couture.

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Cain is a weaker everything than Couture

Randy is a better wrestler, stronger, better boxer than Cain, and more intellegent and experienced. The only thing Cain has on Randy is speed. For Nog, this will be like fighting Randy’s rookie younger brother. For us, it’ll be like watching an inferior sequel to a great movie. This is bad matchmaking. Nog should be fighting Mir and Cain should be fighting JDS.

by (shonuff) on Feb 8, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking literally Randy is weaker than Cain

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Cain is more powerful as a wrestler no question.

I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me

by bigbadbunbun on Feb 8, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

don't believe it for a second

you ever arm wrestled with an old man who worked all his life? Muscle doesn’t weaken with age, it toughens with use. Strength isn’t like hearing or reflexes. Old men don’t start to get weak till their hearts can’t oxygenate their muscles anymore or their joints make it too painful to apply force and then their muscles start to atrophy from lack of use. Randy’s heart and joints are healthy and his muscles are definitely not suffering any reduction in usage. Guarantee you he’s stronger now than the last time he was fighting LHW. I’d bet a weeks pay that he could out-muscle Cain. Cain is only slightly larger, and Randy has bullied much larger men than Cain. He was even pushing Brock against the fence and holding him. I’d like to see Cain do that!

by (shonuff) on Feb 8, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Cain is strong

 But the only thing he has that can be comparable is his wrestling and maybe ability to control fighters on the ground. But as far as throwing punches and attempting subs Randy is much more proven and accomplished. So I agree with you shonuff Randy is the better MMA wrestler for what we have seen. But Cain is improving and still has a upside that will need to be greatly improved to have any kind of chance against NOG.

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Nog's head movement you can question but

his technique, jab, combos are as solid as any good club fighter.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 8, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Have I ever arm wrestled an old man LOL So because an old man has good arm wrestling skills hes powerful? First off yes power does deteriorate. The older you get the more your internal organs deteriorate. At 46 he does look great. But has lost alot of speed power. All aspects of MMA require speed, technique, timing, precision and power. That includes wrestling. And yes Randy has bullied larger men. But name some of these men that you are refering to that are high level wrestlers. And don’t bring up Randy holding Brock against the fence because that really doesn’t mean much considering Randy is the only wrestler Brock has faced. And guaranteeing that he;s stronger now than he was 3 years ago doesn’t mean anything. Try backing up your claims instead of guaranteeing it when your guarantee means nothing

I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me

by bigbadbunbun on Feb 8, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I smell hostility.....

and am amused.

2010:
Lesnar > [Carwin > Mir] ---> Lesnar > [Nog > Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS > GG]

by freenow82 on Feb 8, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree with shonuff

I think Randy would beat Cain. Soooo.

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i agree with shonuff

I think Randy would beat Cain. Soooo.

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

NOG never used that much in the past but your right it was always good

 just never noticed because he never used it.

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Since he was nearly finished by both Sylvia and Herring.

Sylvia could have out boxed Nog that night with one hand behind his back. Herring put him on queer street. Ill give him a pass against Mir since he wasnt healthy, but to say his boxing is ‘great’ is far from accurate.

by captainStevo on Feb 8, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

NOG changed his training to focus more on striking

 He has realized he can not just rely on his JJ skills to win like he use too and most of the shots he has taken in his carrer have came because he was on his back and always seemed to pull off a sub. I’m not sure if you watched his fight against Randy but before he fought he stated he was training and felt good about his stand up and Randy has faced many good strikers and done well and is much better than Tim and Herring who you pointed out, but NOg destroyed Randy in the stand up and was proof enough for me to believe what he stated is true.

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Nog doesnt stand a chance!!

at the heavyweight tittle….Gone are the days he could take loads of punishment and then catch sum1 with a submission…The competition is tougher now it wont work with the top guys. He wont get past cain and if he did Mir would smash him again no problem…He looked so bad against randy.

by do work son on Feb 8, 2010 9:51 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

in what way did he look bad against Randy?

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

yer!

how did he look bad against Randy?
and what does Cain have for him?
Wrestling and some of the least effective G’n’P around?
Nog will beat him to the punch standing, I’m hoping to see Nog choke him out.

"OH GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING! HE BROKE HIS FREAKIN' ARM"
"hey man that's the business, we're not figure skating"

In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.

by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 8, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

nog/Randy

Do work son’ says some weird things, and clearly see’s fights different then most. I was cheering for Randy but it was pretty clear Nog did great in that fight win fairly convincingly although I give big props to Randy for lasting in some of those subs that 99% of ppl would’ve tapped from. Very entertaining fight that Nog clearly looked anything but bad.

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

do your eyes actually work you fool....

and does your brain…..cain has never fought anyone of nogs quality. nog is a true mixed martial artist, not just a wrestler that can throw a punch and a kick, or a kick boxer that has a decent guard, he is one of the best of all time, and if he fights mr frank “i’m an arrogant toss pot with a stupid beard” mir again he will win. and apart from you and mirfan i don’t think many people would disagree……looked bad against randy……….bollocks….

by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 8, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

What are you saying?

Nog did not look bad against Randy. That was a good fight…Randy is no Can man. Cain will not win…ill bet anyone on that.

by Mir on Feb 8, 2010 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

yeah it was a good fight to watch but

Nog didnt look good…if randy had any kind of power he wud of knocked him clean out the way Mir did coz he caught him loads and randys boxin aint even that good…am puttin my money on Cain…Nog is just way too slow.

by do work son on Feb 8, 2010 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

…if randy had any kind of power he wud of knocked him clean out

You mean like the way Randy dropped Tim Sylvia or the way he dropped Gabe or the way he checked Brocks chin? Or the way he bombed on Coleman Saturday? I unno, I think he has some great power. Especially for his size and age.

When Nog rocks Cain and Valesquez goes to tie him up with a double leg, Nog will sprawl and pound his way to a commanding position that he can sub him from.

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Randy has no power, do work son is half correct.

And Cain has a great chance to win this fight.

OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.

by jay. on Feb 8, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

everyone has power with 4oz gloves on.....

but a 100% nog can withstand the power of a high speed train, and he has done, he once got run over by a steam roller and still went training the next day….

by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 8, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

True dat

The Nogs have chins of steel Did you see the shots he ate from Fedor and CroCop and just kept smiling!

by (shonuff) on Feb 8, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Randys Boxing may not be great compared to boxers,

but there is not a HW with better boxing then him besides Big Nog. Nog out boxed him easily, out grappled him on the ground, and owned him all 3 rounds. While Nog doesn’t make the excuse it is widely known Nog was coming off of a serious staph infection going into the Mir fight. I am not sure if you are aware of staph but it completely drains and weakens you. It usually takes months to recover and he went into a cage right away. Maybe Mir will handle him now, his boxing looked krisp his last 2 fights, but it will be on much more level playing field this time around. Like Daniel stated Randy rocked Brock, dropped Timmy(who has twice the reach and is much more known for his stand up), dropped Gonzaga (some of the best HW Muay Thai) with a broken arm, and Coleman looked like he had been hit with a black jack multiple times, in just a few minutes of fight. While Cain maybe faster, he essentially is just a wrestler. While it maybe the best base to get into mma, he lacks stand up, has yet to fight anyone with the jits level of Nog(who wrote the book on mma jits), and just hasn’t experienced anyone on Nogs level. This will be imo the loss that will make Cain up his level of training.

On another note, I wish all the big mouths in mma as of late, would take a page out of Nog’s Book of Respect. He has as much respect for the fighters as he does mma. All that self hype, talk smack about whoever I am fighting crap reminds me to much of boxing.

by Da Monkey on Feb 8, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

On another note, I wish all the big mouths in mma as of late, would take a page out of Nog’s Book of Respect. He has as much respect for the fighters as he does mma. All that self hype, talk smack about whoever I am fighting crap reminds me to much of boxing.

If we did that, these blogs would be practically empty.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Feb 8, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

we would just smack talk each other more often.

I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop

In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.

by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 8, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

When did Randy rock Brock?

Don’t make shit up.

OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.

by jay. on Feb 8, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Brock nearly retired from that one then eh?

Randy didn’t do a thing to Brock.

OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.

by jay. on Feb 8, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't he cut him with a glancing blow

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, yes. I will concede that Randy put his hands on Brock

But he didn’t rock him at all. And all it did for Randy was get him finished. Brock was going to play with Randy, but after that shot Randy got put to sleep. He didn’t rock Brock, not in the slightest.

OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.

by jay. on Feb 8, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That fight was slowly starting to go Couture's way

He was landing more strikes, he was controlling the clinch, he got up from under Brock twice; Lesnar is fortunate he put him away when he did cause things were about to go from bad to worse.

"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27

by O damn he got caught on Feb 8, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Brock got punched, and it made him angry. He punched Randy, and Randy went jelly-legged and fell. Then he got pounded out.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Feb 8, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

after losing round 1 to a man 1/2 his size and twice his age that he couldnt get away from the fence.

Brocks day is coming. No doubt. He’ll lose 1 of his next 3 for sure.

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldn't bet on it daniel

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

jay

Well your at it why not admit he lost the 1st round. Yep

Randy couture beat Brock in round 1. Deal with that.

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 6:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he did stun him at one point

I don’t know if I would say “rocked”, but Brock definitely felt it and you could see on his face that he was surprised at Randy’s power.

by (shonuff) on Feb 8, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what i said

I said “checked his chin”

Brocks sisters (Jay & Dub) took it upon themselves to stick up for him and change my words. I didn’t even say anything bad, but it resulted in 5 immediate posts once they got hold of the 3 words I said about him. Lol

worbanizer

by daniel worby on Feb 8, 2010 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

it depends what nog comes to fight

if he looks like he did against mir hell get smashed.. if he looks like he did against randy should be a great fight… but i think cain will win a decision if he doesn’t get submitted.

by asahni on Feb 8, 2010 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

Cain's got nothing for Nog

Cain is a poor-man’s Couture and a rookie compared to Nog. Nog won’t even need to change his training camp from his last fight. Cain has great takedowns against lesser men, but I give him less than 20% chance of pulling one off against a veteran grappler of Nog’s caliber. And if he does manage to get on top of Nog, he doesn’t have the experience to avoid/escape the kind of sub attempts that Nog put on Couture. And Cain is as famous for his marshmallow fists as Nog is for his adamantium chin. Other than Brock, Nog is Cain’s worst nightmare.

by (shonuff) on Feb 8, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed..

I got Nog all day on this one. And to all the haters saying he’s done? Think again. His only recent misstep was against Mir and that’s because he was just getting over an F-ing staph infection! He looked good against Randy in his last fight and now I think he’s gonna look to make a statement against Velasquez next Saturday. Cain may be the younger, gritty, dominant wrestler, but lets not forget, you can NEVER count out the heart and desire to win that Big Nog has. The man is notorious for taking an ass-whooping and just when you think it’s all over, just when you think you’re about to coast out that decision, BAM! You just got armbarred. Now personal hatred of AKA aside, Cain is a solid, tough dude and very good at what he does, but I just don’t think he has all the tools yet to handle the upper echelon of heavyweights such as Nog, Mir, Lesnar.. In fact, look for a classic Minotauro finish. I’ve got Big Nog with the 3rd round sub.

by matmar87 on Feb 8, 2010 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

how many times did randy take nog down???? sorry can't remember...

and cain is a similar fighter, maybee 15 lb heavier, can’t see it being much different..

by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 8, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

matmar

Have you forgotten how he was getting smashed in the HH and Timmy fights? He is DONE, he’ll never win the belt again. Maybe saying done is too harsh. He isn’t at the top any more though, that’s for sure.

OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.

by jay. on Feb 8, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

still get to see him tie Cain in knots

I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop

In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.

by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 8, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Even if he does get his head dis located

nog can still tie him up. It’ll be like a clown making balloon animals.

I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop

In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.

by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 8, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

So your saying

Nog looked good against Sylvia and Herring.?? he got his ass kicked off both of them too and they shud of finished him when they knocked him down. Cain will wear him down and take the decision no doubt.

by do work son on Feb 8, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Never said a word about the Sylvia and Herring fights..

But since we’re on the subject, who won both those fights? O right, Nog did! If you’ve payed any attention to the rest of his career, then you know one of Minotauro’s biggest weapons is his ability to recover. And if we see a healthy, hungry, and most importantly, staph-free Big Nog come into this fight, its going to be that recuperative ability of his that will be a major factor in this fight.

by matmar87 on Feb 8, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

That is classic Big Nog though...

Look at a good protion of his fights and he always pulls off the win while taking a lot of abuse. Are they pretty wins, no, but is it what he does, a lot of times yes. He is 32-5 against the best that the HW’s have ever had to offer. Also Cain doesn’t have the boxing that Timmy has nor does he have the experience that HH has. All be it aside, Hearing has fought some of the best throught out his career.

by Da Monkey on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

blah blah blah blah blah

you forgot bob sapp, nobody said he looked good against tim saliva, but he still won, you made the point he looked bad against randy…which he didn’t….

by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 8, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

But you did say

his only recent ‘misstep’ was against Mir..A was making the point that those fights were less than convincing and looked anything but world class…and I also said earlier that he cannit take the punishment he used to against the top guys in the UFC like he has dun in the past so I have payed attention.

by do work son on Feb 8, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Both points are vaild..

Yes, Nog’s UFC career is a far cry from his glory days in Rings and Pride, but when comparing Nog and Cain side by side, all I’m saying is Nog has certain intangible qualities that Cain simply doesn’t posses. He has almost Wolverine-like regenerative abilities, and he has the heart and desire of a champion, two qualities in a fighter that cannot be tarined or taught.

by matmar87 on Feb 8, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

excluding the mir fight, he allways pulls a rabbit out of his ass.....

i know the sport is constantly evolving and fighters continue to get better and better, and blackhouse is also evolving and getting better and better, rule this guy out at your peril, as many fighters have found out in the past, do you honestly believe he hasn’t faced this type of test before…..he was fucked before the mir fight and did not look in any shape or form like his normall self, and randy is no slouch

by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 8, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Brock is going to pull that lucky rabbit out of his ass and beat him over the head with it.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Feb 8, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Brock can pull shit out of people's asses they didn't even know they had in there

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Feb 8, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Mir had no idea he had a lucky horseshoe up his ass until Brock beat him with it.

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

by P-Dub on Feb 8, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Nog

I like Mir as well but he is a bit of a douche, though no more than Sonnen & Carwin. Nog is on the elite level of classy guys few people rise to. He follows the old school martial arts discipline where you never insult your opponent. I suppose we all benefit from the hype of the Sonnens, Carwins, Mirs, etc and it make people like Nog & Randy that much more respectable.

by kibbled_bits on Feb 8, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

For all those that say NOG is not near his former self I say "Bull S***"

  I have been watching NOG for many years and back in Pride he relied mostly on his JJ game in fights, and has taken many shots yes but like gracie was patient enough to wait for a mistake were he would use his skills to tap out his opponent. The guys NOG had trouble with were those that had knowlege and good defence against JJ. Over the years NOg has taken many shots and maybe his chin isn’t the same but his all around game and conditioning is better than ever. He has been focusing more than ever on his striking and one of his training partners JDS is thought as many as the best striker in todays MMA and NOG looked better than ever striking when he beat Randy. NOG doesn’t talk much about his game but when he does unlike some fighters he is very honest and has stated not only is his stand up improved it’s focused on because of todays MMA were most of the fighters now have great knowlege and strategy against JJ and needed to adapt his game, as well he stated he is in the best shape of his life.

 So I agree when you say he isn’t his former self, he’s even better besides maybe one area his chin? And thats based on most fans from one fight. Fact is the competiton now days has changed as fighters knowlege and time spent training has greatly improved from the Pride days besides the brazilians and a hand few of others that were able to focus on MMA as a job. Fact his his JJ skills are still probally the greatest in the MMA HW division, his striking is better than ever and his conditioning is better than ever.

 i can’t see NOG losing in any area to Cain besides the wrestling were he may struggle a little more power wise against Cain I believe NOG will be able to use his JJ much better to counter Cains wrestling better than Randy. Cains only advantages in this fight that I see is his wrestling were he may be able to control NOG but because of his lack of experience I don’t think this will be any harder for NOG than Randy was for him I’m predicting NOG by TKO in the second yes you heard me right TKO.

"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar

by Puck Head on Feb 8, 2010 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

cain could stick and move on Nog like randy did, and out box Nog. Lil nog has the best boxing in mma behingd bj penn. big nog is a lil bit sloppy and takes too many shots. He should plan to beat Cain quick, cause hes such a slow starter, or finisher i mean. This is a tough fight to pick. I would easily say Nog, but I dont know which Nog will fight. The nog who fought heath herring, sylvia and mir wont beat cain. The nog who beat randy would beat cain.
im gonna base my opinion off his last fight and say nog wins by sub or decision.

by fedor spiderush st.gracie on Feb 8, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

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