UFC 111 video trailer for 'St. Pierre vs Hardy' in HD
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what a great trailer
Fan of Tiger 'Makin It Rain' Woods
by B-A-N-A-N-A-S on Feb 24, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed! Nicelyedited too!
It gave me the goosebumps that crawled to the back of my neck, makin’ the hairs stand!
I’d pick GSP to be the winner, but I’m sure as hell be rooting for The Outlaw! War Hardy!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 24, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
me too I'm rooting for Hardy
I’d say he’s got a better chance at beating GSP than Edger has of beating Penn anyway.
One thing I know for sure is that I’m sick of watching GSP wrestle his way to painstaking victories that are mostly un interesting, predictable and take up 25 minutes of my life at a time. COME ONE GEORGES!!! put on a fucking show!!! As much as I want Hardy to win… I know that GSP probably will but I want him to finish a damn fight, I want him to give somebody a freakin beating, shut a mofo down!!! not “impose his will” which mostly seems to be another way of saying lay on top of and control, push against the fence and control etc. I don’t want to see him control the fight I want to see him end the fight… convincingly.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
+ 1 SFK!
Yea how much bigger is GSP than B.J.? I agree with SFK bc I can’t stand seeing a “dominate” fighter not finish a fight! He’s a great wrestler and well rounded…that’s it! I use to be a fan………now I can’t stand him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl-beMYQ-K0&feature=player_embedded#
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl-beMYQ-K0&feature=player_embedded#
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
ya
Because Fitch, and Alves, and Penn get finished lots riiight? For fuck sakes those guys don’t even lose let alone get finished. He’ll finish Hardy. He just needed to face a non TRUE #1 contender like the other champs usually do.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 8:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hardy hasn't been finished in almost 5 years
I want to be very clear here I’m not saying Hardy will win, but I’m sick of people bashing him and saying he doesn’t deserve his shot, talking about him like he is some crap bag chump with no business here. He is on a 7 fight winning streak…
BTW Alves has actually been finished more times than Hardy and Hardy has fought 8 more times than Alves… I don’t know why, maybe it’s the British thing or because he doesn’t take himself too seriously, but nobody is giving Hardy any respect.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
SFK
i agree totally with every point, if you look at hardys record his losses have come by decisions or subs never been TKO’d or KO’d same with Semtex
People can argue all day about if he’s worthy of a shot etc but knowone else in the WW division has put such a long streak together
Its jsut good to see someone else get a chance for once
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
and im sick of everyone whining bout GSP not finishing
Alves of old isn’t the same alves of now. He isn’t easily finished nowadays. I’m not discrediting Hardy. I like him. But I’m saying alves would be who i’d pick in a fight vs Hardy. And i’d take Penn over hardy as well. So I don’t see why GSP had to finish those fights to be impressive.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
not to mention he did finish Penn
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And Serra
And fought the last 2 rounds (or was it 1,5?) of the Alves-fight with a injury. Good chance he would have finished that fight too without the injury.
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Penn was out of shape and gave up
he didn’t get finished
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
by Penn and his corner
not by GSP
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
if you say so
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
BJ/Diego was only stopped because of blood. He didn't actually stop Diego,
You gonna take some of BJ’s credit away for that?
JasonFahQ is a troll.
no because BJ made a whole in Diego's face that meant blood
was pooring into the eyes that BJ had already pretty much closed from punches anyway. That’s different from your opponent being tired.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
BJ didn't stop the fight it was his corner?
Because the ref wasn’t asking his corner if BJ wanted to continue. He asked BJ and BJ cried " I can’t take no more of this beating, I quit".
His corner didn’t quit, he did.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
He doesn't even remember the last 2 rounds....
Meaning GSP couln’t finish Penn who was battered up and on auto pilot!
either way
it wasn’t Georges
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Guys, I love BJ but Jay is 100% right.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sorry man but Truth is more than just a corny catchphrase for me. I was bitter about it but I had to man up to it. Time that you guys do, too.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It's not about B.J.!
To me this whole thing is about how boring he is! Maybe not to you are the Canadian’s, but to me he is! No right or wrong. Just like SFK said, “so predictable!”
I will admit that GSP is not as exciting in his finishes but he tools everybody...He is dominant.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If Bj had been in better shape then the fight would have continued
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I agree 100%. But he wasn't and he quit due to fatigue. The End.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
yer but BJ being out of shape
wasn’t Georges doing
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
In shape....for what?
More of a beating? Who cares? He did nothing that whole fight.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
fair enough
all the more reason that GSP shuld have/could have finished
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
You are arguing in a circle SFK.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
great point jay! for real.
Not a finish I guess. He didn’t stop Diego. The doctors did. The doctors should’ve been awarded the win I guess. Gotta ko the guy to almost death, or sub him. If you don’t you receive no credit. You hear me GSP you predictable and shitty champ?
Unreal.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Relax, Daniel. GSP does not need to justify his status. MMA fans are just restless right now.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
B.J., Anderson, Lesnar all finish fights!
To me they are dominate champs! They try and finish the fight and they want a challenge, (moving up in weight.) GSP is very happy with the judges telling him that he won!
personally
i dont think any fighter is happy to let it go to a judges decision..
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
haha
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
and we all know how that turned out
JASONFAHQ is a troll
by bigbadbunbun on Feb 25, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think I've accidentally started an anti GSP rally
not a popular move considering the number of Canadians on this site!
it’s not that I’m anti GSP. I don’t want to have a big rant about it… again, I’ve done this before. but it seems like he is afraid to get punched in the face, he won’t ever fight someone standing unless he has already squished the life out of them for a couple of rounds first. I don’t enjoy watching him anymore, simple as that. it’s predictable. I sit down infront of his fights and count the seconds until the takedown.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I predict
5 seconds against hardy ;)
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
OK…so this is the double standard when it comes to MMA. Does anyone criticize Semtex for not going for takedowns? of course not, everyone loves to see standup. This bullshit about expanding your game is just an excuse for people who would rather watch a standup brawl than a grappling clinic.
If you focus on the fighters entertaining, instead of WHATEVER THEY CAN to win, then you’re part of the reason why MMA is half entertainment, half legitimate sport.
Anderson Silva is p4p the greatest fighter of all time, Fedor and GSP fear the mighty Spider
Fighters are their to finish fights
IMO anyway I had a whole debate about this earlier in the week.
Takedowns don’t finish fights. G’n’P and subs do, so do punches, kicks, knees.
I’m not overly impressed with the style that GSP has adopted recently because it doesn’t stop people. controlling someone and not taking damage is all very well, but you’re not finishing fights with it. Semtex finishes… convincingly.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
maybe some of these fighters should learn some fuckin defense then no?
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So you're saying it's acceptable...
to play it safe and ride out decisions and not look to finish just because you can get away with it and no one can stop you from laying there not finishing them… to me as a long time fight fan… that sucks balls. It’s not what fighting is about and a fighter that is more concerned with their legacy/face than tryting to finish, (which Georges probably could do easily if he was prepared to) is just not my kind of fighter. That’s all it is.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Will you be here on March 28 criticizing GSP for knocking Hardy out?
Like saying he was afraid to wrestle him? Somehow, I wouldn’t be surprised. Do you call Anderson Silva a pussy because he is afraid to take his opponents down? Think about it. Everyone of these fighters have their specialty and GSP’s are wrestling and GnP. Is MMA really for you SFK?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
give GSP their opponents
Penn does usually fight the best but c’mon, Anderson? He’s my favorite fighter and he’s definitely fought some caliber fighters but how is GSP criticized when Andy went the distance vs Leites? You were impressed there Mbow? Or him beating Griffin? Lol GSP would beat Griffin for fuck sakes. Now he’s got Maia who lost to Nate who lost to Chael? GSP would beat Maia too!
When was the last time GSP got to fight the Herrings or Griffins of the WW division?
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL This is why I sais in the other thread that we will just stick to bashing Lesnar!
you’re going to say Anderson doesn’t finish fights bc of Leites? LOL Why bc he didn’t jump into his guard? I don’t care that GSP wants to take the fight to the ground….just fucking finish the fight!!! He was destoying B.J, and still couldn’t finish. It would have been a decision if his corner didn’t throw in the towel! Just sad if you ask me!
witwooo lol
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
And for the record I love a good sub over a KO any day!
I would rather see a good ground game than the standup, but GSP isn’t very exciting on the ground………..so fn boring! Plus we don’t get to see many undercard fights bc he wasts 25 fn minutes of our time!! Now I’m annoyed! Fuck GSP!
how is that sad?
How many ppl have finished Penn? The guy hasn’t even been rocked his whole fuckin career! He’s undeniably in the top 4 fighters on the whole planet man! Tell me the last guy to destroy Penn!? Tell me plz! I don’t even fuckin like Penn but I’m not stupid!
And of course Anderson could’ve finished leites. So he gets a buy cause he didn’t wanna jump on the ground with him right? But GSP doesn’t for wanting to impose his advantage? But when Andy does it he’s Scott free? Man for real? Their my 2 favorite fighters but I see it fairly. GSP used his powers and Andy used his. No fault. And you want another example for Andy? How impressive was his win over Cote. He couldn’t finish that fight? Fuck off he could’ve in the opening minute! He chose not to and a stupid injury is the only reason we didn’t see dancing with the stars for 25 mins.
FUCK! >:(
Lol
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
give me replays of GSP/Penn & GSP/Alves
…over Andy/Leites & Andy/Cote anyday! And he was meant to finish those fights. Before those fights we all knew he would. Whoops silly us. Dana didn’t have any complaints about GSP’s lack of performances cause they don’t exist. He sure as fuck was openly embarrassed after leites and cote.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Give the man a break
Since gsp lost his belt he finished 3 out of 6 fights, thats 50/50, just look at fitch, machida in the past and many other fighters, there decision kings. Gsp is getting too much heat, how many people have finished penn or serra? Or alves lately. Alves steamrolled 3 top guys in a row, stopping karo for the first time. Gsp fought a round an a half with a torn groin, hence his laying on alves..I guess your only as good as you last fight. Just like the spider received so much criticism for his last decision win…it doesn’t matter how dominant you are, if you have a lame last showing that’s what people tend to remember. “JUST FINISH A DAMN FIGHT”! poster’s on here are idiot’s IMO, look at his history. GSP also doesn’t have 2 decisions in a row…finish a fight? lmao, dumbass’s. Any fighter that wants to get hit in the face it a retard too, it only takes one good hit to end anyone’s night. Andersons main strength is striking, hence most of his wins are tko. Penns strengths are boxing and bjj hence most of his wins are either of these. Gsp’s main strength is wrestling, harder to stop a guy wrestling him too death, but could set up a ground and pound stoppage or a sub-his last 3 wins. Gsp is smart and is using his strengths to his advantages, if you guys want to see striking so badly go watch kickboxing this is mma. I agree gsp looked bad his last 1 and a half rounds against alves-lay and pray but I think anyone with a torn groin would do the same. If you have such a problem with gsp don’t watch him. But my feeling is as he improves in other areas he’ll finish fights more convincingly.
difference is Andy finished Griff in the first round and made it look easy as fuck
GSP would take him down and control him etc etc final bell
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
lol You mean...
Lesners AAAAAALL 3 wins in the UFC, which 1 was a unanimous decision?
And i COULD state the fact that Anderson Silvas last title defence was a decision, but i wont, cause that that that… that would be blashepy my friend. I cant disrespect a God! :)
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
LOL Zlatan...I don't even like Lesnar!
Just trying to make a point! SFK, you are so right! GSP would def go to a decision with Forrest! Worby: We like dif types of fighters…no need to get all crazy! lol I just can’t stand that such a dominate fighter doesn’t finish fights! And when I said it was sad I meant all of his decisions, not the Penn win! Again, I don’t mind GSP taking it to the ground…just finish! Learn some damn subs or something! I think Serra fucked him up, ever since he sux to watch…IMO!
RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!!!!!!!
Put the canadian divas in their place!
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
FUCK U
GO CANADA GO!!!
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Feb 24, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO!!!
Yes!!. A sweet victory for Canada, a lopsided 7-3 win. First time Team Canada beat the Russians, being from Canada and all. Hopefully they’ll do the same against U.S.A tomorrow.
Hmm
Now that I’m thinking about it, was it the first time, or not in a very long time? If anyone knows fill me in.
i think they said 50 yrs on tv but i could be wrong...
is it the americans tommorrow? for some reason i thought we had to go through someone else to get to them
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Feb 24, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
NICE
so we get revenge on the hated yanks then we take the gold from Sweeden, i can get with that… To bad for my boy Alfie but fuck him, canada deserves it more
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Feb 24, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
No we play sweden friday if they beat slovakia
And the pig dog americans play finland the winners play for the gold.
yup u were right, that's what i thought initially too.
too bad the losers didn’t even beat slovakia, the swedish coach did a terrible job and he’s out now.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
we play friday then Sunday in gold medal game.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry, roberto
i take hockey very seriously man!
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Feb 24, 2010 7:41 PM EST reply actions
have you recovered from the USA beatdown yet?
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters
have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant
buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 24, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone ever streamed these
(HD YouTube vids) to your TV through a PS# or something? They look any good in HD?
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
thread jack love you GSP but
reply mania posters card Lol someone should do a fanpost of potential fights on a card of maniacs Could you imagine a real card? The post fight press would be huge! For real lol! BE and Junkie etc would be all over it too! Ha ha and Monday after the scraps? Talking bout the armbar BBBB locked in. The stoppage due to strikes on jay from brendog! (just bugging jay), and the high kick to end it all against PB from yours truly?! (jk PB). Would be pretty funny as a fanpost though.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2010 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
no
its really not, one good game is not tank-worthy
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Feb 24, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Roberto
are we getting put in our places right now?
I'm always thinking one step ahead. Like a carpenter . . . who makes stairs.
lol 7 to 3 thus far.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2010 9:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you are, once sweden beats them down.
Luongo didn’t look too good, Lundqvist and Miller are the two best goalies left in the tournament.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
the Saskatchewan boys
Marleau, Morrow, and Getzlaf all local boys combined for 5 points.
Go riders!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 8:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
nabokov
That’s who didn’t look too good. He allowed 6, they put in Bryzgalov and he allows 1! Could have been a much more entertaining game if he’d have started the game. 4-3 or something. I mean obviously I’m all about Canada winning but nonetheless I still like close and competitive wins vs what occurred last night.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 8:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Biggest card of the year
2 title fights, alves/fitch….this is going to be insane. I tell you what though – the Almeida/Brown fight has FOTN written all over it.
USA vs Canada in the gold medal – USA wins a shootout
wishful thinking
but i think miller wont be able to pull the same rabbit out of his ass twice
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Feb 24, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
i cant see usa beating canada twice.
It would be nice though.
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters
have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant
buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 25, 2010 12:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if canada plays the next 2 games the way they did last night
then no one stands a chance.
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
It was kind of cool seeing a videotrailer with GSP
that shows him knocking down opponents with strikes, standing!
Would be awesome to see GSP dominate Hardy on the ground at first and then knocking him out standing… BUUUT
My prediciton: GSP takedown, brutal GnP, Hardy turtles up. And then Sub or ref stoppage! Round 1.
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 AM EST reply actions
you give Hardy ZERO credit...
he’s a tough dude, this isn’t Fedor fighting big Tim you know. GSP has been very predictable of late and Dan is coming into this thing on a seven fight win streak. Gono, Markham, Davis, Swick… all tough dudes that gave him very few problems. He will probably lose, but I promise he will put up more of a fight than you are giving him credit for.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone seen hardy's interviews?
I’ve seen posing (tito)
I’ve seen trash talking that couldnt be backed up (bisping)
But i’ve never seen someone give less of a flying fuck than Dan Hardy. It’s blatantly obvious he doesn’t care what his opponent or the public says or does, and has said without a doubt, he wouldn’t have it any other way than being the underdog. He’s popular cause he genuinely is just a born fighter. He’s not just good either, he’s a technically perfect striker, who doesn’t waste time on wasted shots. Watch him up against Marcus Davis. Davis is throwing hundreds of missed shots, but every punch, kick and elbow Hardy delivered was nasty. Remember his face?
Hardy has also been fighting longer. Tae Kwon Do since he was six, trained with the shaolin monks (arent they like, impervious to pain?) and has 30 professional fights. GSP only 21. I’m not saying GSP isnt great, i’m just saying he’s gonna play it safe if anything, like Thiago Alves…
Spinning Fat Kick, you training?
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
GSP has been very predictable of late
Ha ha no he hasn’t. What’s ‘as of late’? You mean since he fought the LW champ and definitely most dangerous striker in LW? Or when he fought who everyone claimed to be the biggest and hardest hitting WW in Alves? GSP dropped Alves due to strikes. Didn’t see Penn or Alves drop GSP. 10 takedowns in one fight means they must’ve been on their feet at 1 point no?
You guys, c’mon, the guy faced Penn and Alves last. Who has faced a tougher 2 last fights then that, that’s champ now?
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 9:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ofcourse they were on the feet at some point
that was a dumb thing to say worby, it starts on the feet. but the handy fact that you just came out with about 10 takedowns in one fight kind of backsup what I was saying.
when was the last time Georges fought with a different game plan than: take down, control, inflict what damage I can from there? granted he looked good on the feet against Fitch but who doesn’t? and even then he still insisted on taking him down and “imposing his will”. The same game plan three fights on the trot = predictable.
I already said that Hardy would probably lose I’m not arguing that, I’m not arguing about the level of GSP’s opponents either, I’m just saying that he has been predictable. You can make excuses for that but you can’t deny it.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
but lesnar is shockingly unpredictable right?
Like the time he won with a high head kick! Oh and the time he submitted that dude! Same recipe every fight for him.
Back to Andy, the time he chose to go to the ground with leites, or the time he didn’t just back up and allow his opponent back to their feet when they went down. He does that every time. If you go down due to strikes he backs up and let’s you up. Predictable.
Whoops! Silly me, that’s not predictability at all! That’s called using your undeniable extremely superior talents to your advantage. What a surprise that Brock GSP and Andy so this! Shocking!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
gsp = boring wrestler
brock = exciting wrestler
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
GSP = MMAist
Brock = 50 lbs bigger then closest opponent
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He cuts to 265 but I doubt he fights there
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
actually Randy was 219 yes.
224 for weigh ins then lost weight for the fight.
Brock slums to 266 and then I’m sure you’ll agree fights at 280 minimum. I’d tend to think 285 is fair. So yes 50lbs is no stretch as Cain is 239 even Carwin is what 251? Old Mir was 240 as well.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
50 pound weight advantage was supposed to mean nothing in this sport.
When the guy with the weight advantage isn’t a fighter. Randy and Mir and HH have been doing this their whole lives, why are they losing to a one dimensional wrestler? Looks bad for them really.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
lol
worby
read my post again and I don’t think you’ll find Brock or Andy mentioned anywhere. My point was that GSP is predictable and I don’t see you denying that here… am I right? Your conceding that he is predictable?
The difference is worby as I’ll tell you yet again
Anderson Silva 25 wins 19 finishes last finish: see last fight
Brock Lesnar 4 wins 3 finishes last finish: see last fight
GSP 19 wins 12 finishes last finish:see 2 years ago
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
how is he predictable but Brock and Andy arent?
That’s what I’m saying. None of them are predictable. That’s what I’m saying. How is this difficult to grasp from my posts. All I’m saying to you is YOU think he is. So then YOU should think Lesnar and Brock are.
Also 12 finishes in 19 fights isn’t bad. 2 years ago was his last? The guy fights fuckin once every 8 mos. That’s not bad either. If he had 10 fights in 2 years then we’d talk.
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
*Brock and Andy not lesnar and Brock
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brock is extremely predictable
plus you say 12 in 19 isn’t bad, I don’t hear anyone saying it’s good.
Yes they are predictable, but what they do is seemingly more effective, as they tend to end fights and fuck people up and all GSP seems to do lately is make people tired.
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by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
He finishes most of his fights, I could see you complaining if you only started watching him last year.
That isn’t the case is it?
JasonFahQ is a troll.
no
infact I’ve only been watching MMA for 6 weeks
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by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
his fights make you tired cause all you wanna do is watch hockey fights
12 out of 19 isn’t too bad? I’m sorry I wasn’t being boastful. Its actually fucking incredible when you’ve stopped guys like Penn, Serra, Hughes 2x, etc.
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yes worby
I just like punching in the face. That’s it, that’s why I’m here on an MMA forum
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by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
i know. doesnt it feel better to say that now?
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe this thread
WARNING TO ALL MANIACS!!!!
If you at any point feel in any way that GSP is predictable in his fighting style or that he needs to finish a fight sometime or that you get bored watching him… suppress those feelings. Or prepare to be promptly attacked in numbers by the Canadian bregade and labelled someone who only likes hockey fights.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
LMAO!!!
Very true! I’m done with it! Just dif of opinions. No one is right and no one is wrong! But GSP is boring…FACT!!! LOL Jk GSP huggers…..See you all on another thread!
LOL
No need to feel so sensitive. Most mma viewers want to see an all out brawl, not a chess match. I for one can appreciate what gsp does and like his style as a fighter. If you don’t like his style, you don’t like his style, but don’t say he needs to finish a fight because the man hasn’t had two decisions in a row, stick with the facts. Gsp being boring is an opinion not mine and obviously not most viewers or he wouldn’t be so popular. You just have bloggers disagreeing with your point of view, you can’t win. Just like I can’t win discussing penn with penn nut huggers, but I’ll still throw in my 2 cents.
LOL Me being sensitive??? With all the jk's and lol's???
I’m the least sensitive person you will meet. I said it 10 times…it’s an opinion. Yet posters keep responding, like you want to keep this going? Why? Just agree to disagree. And Jay…I agree with Machida, but Anderson and B.J. being boring? Come on bro, you don’t believe that, do you? And the same goes for them as GSP, They wouldn’t be so popular if they were boring.
I was just throwing it out there. I do think Machida is boring 95% of the time.
BJ and AS was a joke.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
OK good! I Was beginning to worry about you...LOL!
I have never and never will be a Machida fan! He is the poster child for boring!
I just saw that fight the other day for the first time.
Could have gone either way! B.J. has to be the #1 pound for pound king!
I like Machida but I can understand why people call him boring.
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-Stephen King
Hmmm
silva last stoppage(tko)-last fight
lesnar last stoppage(tko)-last fight
gsp last stoppage(corner throwing in towel)-second last fight.
All three are fairly predictable, lesnar the most.
Tell it like it is. Brock may lose his next and win two decisions in a row. Spider might win a decision too or lose. Spider fought a guy tailor make for him, an easy fight, gsp fought a beast, brutal striker,very hard to submit..hard guy to finish. Lesnar can ONLY ground and pound and is so much bigger than his opponents he’s great at it.
exactly nathang
Thank you
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
My bad if it sounded like I dont respect Hardy as a fighter or person, I do.
I actually like him a lot. Great interviews, funny dude, hilaaaaaarious v-blog on GSP & wrestling and he has beaten good (not great) fighters and is on a tear right now. I hope its a competetive fight, an all out war with both ground and standing action. But my prediction wasnt based on what i hoped. My prediction was based on the facts that he
*was taken down and controlled on the ground by Marcus Davis which isnt much of a wrestler
*he hasnt fought anyone with wrestling, topcontrol and GnP that GSP posseses
*we dont how he will react to getting GnP’ed and controlled for a longer period of time
*he hasnt showed any kind of offensive guard
*he’s BJJ/grappling isnt on the same level as his striking
If im wrong and he gets passed round 2, then hats off for him and great for us fans. But thats not what i predict. Not disrespecting Hardy at all. Just see it as a bad matchup for him.
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
can't argue with most of that
but I think Hardy is definately tough/tricky enough to last more than two rounds. And hell you never know… could catch him.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, its MMA and you never know. Cant argue with that either...
Allthough being subbed or the ref jumping in due to inacticity in a bad position has nothing to do with toughness.
But i CAN argue with you calling GSP predictable :) I start off by saying, i would LOVE LOVE LOVE if GSP started finishing all his fights, putting guys away and putting this damn LaynPray/Boring lable that he’s getting lately to rest by just going for the finish and “risking” a LITTLE bit more when HE feels its the right moment.
But that doesnt make him predictable. His gameplan and mindset has always been to mix it up. Make guys think and “Paralysis by analysis” as Joe Rogans says or as Frank Mir said when he was commenting on the WEC-card, The second you think your in a kickboxing fight with GSP, thats when you will find yourself on your back (or something like that). Thats FAR FROM being predictable. He sees the openings and he goes for it. Thats not really a predictable gameplan now is it? And to be honest, he has really great BJJ too. But you dont really risk position to go for subs against guys like Serra or BJ. But Hardy aint no decorated blackbelt so he better watchout :p
And yeah, his gameplan against BJ was to make him tired on the ground and against the fence and then knock him out standing, BJ just quit before it happend.
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Zlatan
I haven’t been into GSP’s camp, I don’t know Greg Jackson, I’ve never sparred with GSP… but even I know what he is going to do in his next fight. He will take Hardy down, control him, neutralize his attack and then do what damage he can from there. whether it’s sub attempts or short elbows. And if even I know what he’s doing then surely that means he’s predictable.
Obviously not second by second, exactly when and how he will take you down but you still know it’s coming.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
so GSP has to knock hardy clean out for him to not be predictable riiight?
Nice of you to give him so many options. If he subs him its predictable. If he beats him into another shape of life for 25 mins, predictable. If he makes his corner throw in the towel out of fear for their fighters health and life, predictable. If he beats him anywhere on the ground I guess. Predictable.
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't say that he had to KO him
All I want is a finish
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by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
how though?
Cause apparently a towel isn’t a finished fight. Plz clarify so I know what constitutes as a ‘finish’ come Sunday morning when I’m on here after the fight. I don’t want to sound like an idiot if the ref or doctors or hardys corner stop the fight and I’m on here bragging like a moron that he finished him only for you to come on and embarrassingly point out he wasn’t finished. Ugh my face would be so red.
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Worby is riled up!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It was the same thing with some of these guys about Nog never being Ko'd.
Apparently his eyes were open so he has a great chin, something along those lines.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
If GSP inflicts and injury on Hardy
which means he is no longer able to continue, whether it be effecting his eyes or his legs or any other part of his body and the doctors stop it, then yes that counts as a stoppage win.
If however Hardy decides that he is knackered and would rather be at home and throws in the towel… that does not count.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn't count to drain your opponent of his will to win?
I think it says something for a guy to be able to steal the will of his opponent. The guys GSP is fighting want his title so badly that it would take a gun to stop most of them. His opponents have been training their whole lives to get to this point. It takes a lot of effort and punishment to stop a guy with that sort of motivation. Think about it. Every fight GSP has been in for the past couple of years, was the biggest fight of his opponents life. That is a huge thing to beat out of a man.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
but why does it come to that?
the frustrating thing is that conciousness is probably a lot easier to beat out of somebody than will. Especially when you spend most of the fight in top position.
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
He's basically have to kill these guys to stop them.
He’s fighting all these guys in the biggest fight of their lives. He does play it safe a little bit, but I won’t blame him for that. You anti-GSP guys are harsh when he loses a fight he should win.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
They are also harsh when he wins.
“Yes he won but it was boring to watch, yes he won but it was too predictable, yes he won but that’s because he is too strong, yes he won but that’s because his opponent was tired, yes he won but Serra once beat him, yes he won but it was a full moon, yes he won but bla bla bla”.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
Yan, Jay and Worby
you guys have rediculous man love for GSP
He hasn’t finished a fight in 2 years. BJ gave up in between rounds, GSP didn’t finish him, it’s not a question of whether or not he beat him, he definately won the fight, dominated it completely, but you thinking rationally you HAVE TO ask the question, well if he was beating him so bad and he is the best p4p guy, why couldn’t he finish?
He has had the same gam plan in all three of his last fights
I don’t like either of those things, you guys putting his balls in your mouth and whining about my opinions isn’t going to change my mind. Spending 20-25 minutes, mostly in top position and still not finishing the fight is not impressive to me. You may call it “sapping will” or a “display of dominance” I call it boring and fighting for a decision. If Georges finishes Hardy then I’ll be as happy as anyone, but right now I am bored with him, but if he takes another 25 minutes of my life and dominates but goes to the judges when he probably could have fnished then I will be even less impressed.
Also Yan you say I’m harsh no matter what, I don’t think I am, I just think that you guys hug his nuts no matter what. He wins a boring decision… it’s a magnificent display of dominance. BJ quits in between rounds… That counts as a stoppage, same as a TKO or a sub or a cut… apparently he “sapped his will”. GSP doesn’t finish a fight for 2 years… it’s because the guys that he fights want it sooo bad that you would have to shoot them to stop them… no you wouldn’t Jay, just sub or (T)KO them.
Just accept the fact that not everyone is a GSP fan!!!
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 26, 2010 5:04 AM EST up reply actions
I'm cool dude
I just think you’re a one dimensional MMA fan. I think MMA is new ground for all martial art disciplines to prove their worth. We just differ. I like it all. The wrestling, the karate, the muay thai, the ju jitsu, the dirty boxing, the kick boxing, the judo, the boxing. I enjoy the techniques behind every move and the strategy used to defeat the other.
You want to see guys finish guys.
Nothing wrong with that though. I like that too but not just that.
For example, I think the Rua-Machida fight was an awesome fight. One I will always remember. karate vs Muay Thai 101. Anyone in the future who will debate the respectful merits of these two disciplines will need to refer to that fight. And to the second one coming no doubt because they can’t reinvent themselves. Machida is a karateka and Rua is a Muay Thai machine. I bet you found that one boring. No finish huh?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
WTF???
Damn you worby, daaaamn you! You beat me to it :)
Looks like i copied and modiefied your post lol
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
So basically...
He’ll strike with Hardy, look for a opening, then take him down, then control him on the ground and then look for a finish either by strikes or Sub?!
Oh god, thats just horrible, that predictable bastard!!!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
So you're admitting he's predictable?
Fedor with a gun... ULTIMATE DANGER!!!
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 25, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, I admit. Totally predictable.
GSP will without a doubt win this fight either by (T) KO standing or GnP (T)KO or referee stoppage or the corner throwing in the towel or submisson or decision! NO DOUBT!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
but he is predicatable
everyone knows what he’ll do they just cant stop it. simple as that
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 25, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Coooooome on, dude
I was just being sarcastic and wrote every scenario possible for a GSP win in a MMA-fight and you end your post with “everyone knows what he’ll do they just cant stop it. simple as that”?
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Throw my opinion in here…. GSP isn’t predictable thats what makes him so good. Great stand-up and great wrestling. If he was predictable he would get kneed in the face when he shot for a takedown.
JASONFAHQ is a troll
by bigbadbunbun on Feb 25, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the backup guys
+1 on bbb
+1 on jay
by Zlatan, My Hero on Feb 25, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
this must be photoshopped
Cause somehow no one has ever seen GSP standing. Or dropping Alves or outstriking all of his opponents.
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by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
just wish his opponents could see how easy GSP is to beat!
I mean every guy on these forums knows how predictable GSP is! Why don’t these apparently ‘easy to finish’ guys that GSP fights, just listen to all of us and develop a gameplan for the soooo predictable GSP?
So annoying that they can’t see what all of us do!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To each there own
Wrestling is part of mma, like jits and striking. I myself like great takedowns, koscheck used to have some of the best. IMO gsp isn’t boring. His last fight definitely wasn’t an exciting fight but what was gsp supposed to do, fight with his opponents strength, alves was considered one of the most brutal strikers at WW. Gsp had a game plan for every guy, alves I think he wanted to take down and sub-his best chance. Penn tired out and tko on the ground-his best chance. Fitch stand with and tko-his best chance. Gsp did fairly well with each guy totally dominating both fitch and penn(two extremely tough guys and near impossible to finish), he didn’t look as good against alves because his submission defense was too good and he was as strong as an ox. Gsp did what he had to do to win, to base all of gsp’s past and future fights on his last fight is just ignorant. Like the spider said, you can’t always have spectacular ko’s some fights are just better than others. Yes gsp is fairly predictable,so is the spider and lesnar and machida and bj penn. What ever floats your boat I guess, I for one don’t find gsp boring just not the most exciting fighter, he fights to win and fights against his opponents weakness’s.
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