Stephan Bonnar: I will appeal the UFC 110 loss to Krzysztof Soszynski
by Jesse Holland on Feb 24, 2010 10:09 AM EST
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"It's only fair to get this overturned to a no contest or draw. In the rules, if after two rounds a fighter suffers a cut from an illegal blow, they go to the scorecard. The judges had it one round a piece, which would have made it a draw. Right after (it) happened, I pointed to my head and told him, 'Head butt.' Why he didn't look up at the replay, which they showed about 30 times, I have no idea. I have never been wronged so bad in a situation that was so obvious. Yes, I will appeal this decision. I just want what is fair. How do 20,000, people including my opponent and the commentators, see that a clash of heads occurred and the referee not see it? I feel like I'm in a pro wrestling match, where one of the wrestlers hits his opponent over the head with a chair when the referee's back's turned. Everyone in the arena sees what happened but the ref, then the ref gets down and gives the three-count and gives the guy the win. It really feels like that."
Light heavyweight Stephan Bonnar slams UFC 110 referee John Sharp for missing an inadvertent headbutt that busted him open in the third round of his 205-pound war with Krzysztof Soszynski at the "Nogueira vs. Velasquez" event on Feb. 21 from Sydney. "The American Psycho" was not permitted to continue after spilling blood all over himself, Soszynski and the better part of the Octagon floor but will appeal the decision and try to get it overturned because of the nature of the cut. Sour grapes? Or legitimate complaint?
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irrelevant
makes no difference in the long run. Bonnar isn’t exactly contending for a title.. LOL
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I have yet to watch the fight so I cant really comment
If he feels like it was 1-1 then I have no problem with this and if he feels like he got screwed, and he would like to stay in the UFC (which I assume he does), this is the obvious choice.
makes no difference to you cuz it's not your fight...a fighters record is his life.
and this would affect Krysztoff’s record, who is still competing.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
bonnar should worry more
about the fact that he sux
not irrelevant to Bonnar
that would be his third loss in a row and might get him canned. It makes a huge difference to a figher’s career. Fair is fair, regardless of whether it has any bearings on a title.
Definately Relevant but..
I think another MMA website reported this the day before UFC110. Dana said in an interview that Stephan had nothing to worry about if he lost because he has a lifetime license to the UFC. So he wouldn’t have been canned but you are totally right otherwise.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
I don’t know about the one round apiece part, but that should have gone to the judges at that point.
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The judges score cards are available after the fights aren't they?
I figured Bonnar saying that “The judges had it one round a piece” means that he’s seen the cards and that’s what they had written down, as far as who won which round. Which, if that’s the case, means that the result should definitely have been a draw. And because it’s clear to everyone involved that the head clash was the cause of the cut, this should get overturned, IMO. That said we all know what happened with Rumble’s appeal of his first “TKO loss” to Kevin “pokey” Burns.
by Canucklehead. on Feb 24, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Should have been a no-contest due to the accidental head butt, if it had gone to the judges card though I think it would have been a Soszynski win. Either way UFC should grant an immediate re-match.
sorry but you are wrong on the "no contest"
After 2 rounds have been completed and I believe 3 rounds in a championship bout, if an accidental head butt occurs it goes to the cards
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by PSYQO78 on Feb 24, 2010 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't see the fight
but what consitutes an “accidental” headbutt? How do we know its accidental? It may have looked accidental, but it was still an illegal strike.
If you kick your opponent in the groin accidently and he cant continue, whats the procedure?
I’m not sure how it goes. I’ve seen so many different procedures. What seems fair to me is a No Decision.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
in this case
and of course every case is different, it was a clash of heads as both fighters engaged.Clearly accidental. The same rules apply for all “accidental” strikes. The “no contest” would suck for someone that kicked the crap out of someone for all rounds including 4:30 minutes of the last and gets hit with an accidental fight ending blow and wasn’t declared the winner. Just trying to put things in perspective.
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seems fair in this case
if both fighters clashed heads, nobody’s to blame…so it should go to the scorecards.
If it were an accidental eyepoke or accidental groin shot then it should be a NC. A fighter should be responsible for their strikes.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
exactly
the rules are fine, and it’s totally understandable that the ref did not see the headbutt from his angle. What is not understandable is that both fighters told him about it and he still didn’t watch the tape before calling it a TKO. That’s just incompetence.
Needs
To be a rematch, Bonnar did get screwed by the decision; plus, that was one sick fight Id pay for another one.
by theworldismine on Feb 24, 2010 10:55 AM EST reply actions
give them rematch
Kryzstzoff is from winnipeg. Throw it on 113 or 115 on the televised portion. I’d much rather view this then Kimbo vs Mitrione. It was a great fight.
And though Stephen isn’t going for the title as mentioned above, I don’t see a reason to cut a guy who always is fighting his all when he steps in. If its a good entertaining effort each time the guys steps in, I say keep em. There are many guys in the ufc that won’t really ever contend for the title. But you can’t just drop them all. They still need to fill the card with other interesting and entertaining match ups.
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2010 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think it should ever go to the cards
There have been many fights where a fighter has been dominated and is def loosing on points, but has won late in the fight.
If there’s an accidental cut, it should be N.C. no matter the round.
I tend to agree. Although it depends on who did it and if it was intentional.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 24, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
well in that case
Anyone could headbutt their way out of a loss.every fight has different scenarios and should be looked at case by case. For instance, dominating a fight 30 seconds left, your opponent pulls guard ya’ll clash heads on the way down you posture up while gushing blood like a gyser and continue an onslaught ,there is 15 seconds left but the ref stops the action, the doc declares it too bad to continue. What should the outcome be then?
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by PSYQO78 on Feb 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
last ditch attempt
bonnar is detirmined to whine and bitch his way onto the main card because of this. he see’s it as a way to try and strike up interest in one of his matches and get himself billed. if it would have gone to the end of the round he would have lost, and he wines and bitches about a head butt but was fine with the eyepoke he delivered which the ref didn’t give Krzysztof a break for and i believed gave out a gonad strike, i can’t really remember.
he deserves the draw
Bonnar won round 2 and lost round 1. He was winning the short bit of round 3 before the headbutt. The rules state to go to the cards if a headbutt happens in round 3 and a fighter cannot continue. It was a draw and Bonnar is only stating the truth because it is true. It should have been a draw. It was a very exciting fight and I’d love to see them fight again.
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