UFC responds to Frank Mir's death wish for Brock Lesnar
by Jesse Holland on Feb 23, 2010 6:54 PM EST
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Former UFC heavyweight champion Frank Mir told WXDX radio last week that he wanted division champion Brock Lesnar to be the first mixed martial arts fighter to die from Octagon related injuries. Well, at least that's what goes through his mind when he's in fight mode, according to his statement.
Still, the comments didn't sit well with UFC President Dana White, who told Carmichael Dave’s KHTK radio show in Sacramento that Mir was "a [expletive] idiot" and that he "never heard something so unprofessional and idiotic in his life."
Mir seems to be genuinely obsessed with Brock Lesnar after getting smashed by the pasty-faced goliath at UFC 100 last July. Not that Mir ever needed a reason to talk trash, but his statements have spread like a virus, infecting most major media outlets -- including the ones that beg for a reason to slam the UFC.
After continuing to pick up steam, the UFC has released a statement offering an apology from the Las Vegas fighter:
"I would like to apologize to Brock Lesnar, his family, the UFC and the UFC fans for my stupid remarks. I respect Brock, all the other fighters, and the sport of mixed martial arts. I’m sorry that I stepped out of line."
And a second lashing from Dana White soon followed:
"I was disappointed by Frank Mir’s comments. Frank’s been with the UFC a long time, he’s a two-time heavyweight champion and a commentator for the WEC. I think his emotions are running high right now, he has a big fight coming up next month and he’s still upset about his loss to Lesnar. He’s been talked to, he regrets what he said, and he won’t be saying anything like that again."
Anyone who's been following the fight game for a while knows this is vintage Mir. But regardless of the comments directed towards Lesnar, it's a bit surprising to see him still focus on the champ when he has a colossal test ahead of him in Shane Carwin at UFC 111 next month.
Will "The Engineer" make him pay for it?
(MMAmania.com's Adam Wagner contributed to this report.)
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The Killer had to be settled down!
Was not a big deal imo but the UFC thought differently.
FUCK YOU TITO! - Mark Coleman
Dana can eat my shit, he's the a-hole here.
Let Frank say whatever he wants to say, I think it’s pathetic when they’re forcing their fighters to apologize for something like this and making a bigger deal about it.
Major Props to Francisco for being in fight mode and saying what’s on his mind.
come on maaayn.
Dana set a precedent by making Brock apologise for his post-UFC 100 behaviour
If Brock had to publically apologise for that then Mir had to do the same for saying something that would do a lot more damage to the reputation of the UFC, you can’t get away with saying things like what Mir said in professional sports and I’m happy to see him get some sort of punishment. He’s lucky that he’s not been suspended, which is what would have happened in any other major sport if a professional athlete said something that idiotic about a rival even in boxing.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
was Tyson ever suspended for what he's said?
Exactly. Not true.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tyson said he wanted to eat his opponents children ( too tired to google who )….Mir was equally out of line though….fuckin stalker
by irishlilpete on Feb 23, 2010 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
mmhhmm
My point is he wasn’t suspended either. Its silly to assume so
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 9:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want Mir to go back to hobbling around on crutches.
Seriuosly i can’t wait until everyone sees what a quitter he is as soon as Carwin hits him.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 23, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
and look where boxing is today.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
stupid way to think, look where boxing was when Tyson was still fighting for titles.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
they just cant admit their point was invalid roberto
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 9:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
DW is tryin to make this mainstream
Tyson talkin on camera how he wants to eat his opponents kids or Mir sayin he wants to kill Brock isnt the way to go. RoBerto, we have different opinions on mma, and thats that.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
boxing was as mainstream as it gets.
Dana has been talkin on camera how reporters are sluts and whore’s and he’s fuckin’ this and that a million times and he’s the president, Mike Tyson was a badass boxer and the most famous in his time.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
watching two men trying to shut each other off in a cage is disgusting enough.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
when has Dana said reporters are sluts and he's fuckin this and that...
the guy is married, he’s never said anythin like that publicly.
I gotta disagree, boxing was never mainstream. There has always been a smaller group of ppl who watch it full-time. It was never like baseball, hockey, football, soccer, or basketball in popularity. Boxing had a few fighters who were big draws, same as today, but even fewer today. Sure, ppl tune in to watch Tyson-Holyfield (btw I met Holyfield in Beijing 2 yrs ago, cool guy), but that’s like tuning in to the World Cup and saying you watch soccer.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
are you serious?
He most certainly did call a reporter a dike and slut etc.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 9:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, Loretta Hunt...i don't remember him callin her a slut.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
he called her source a faggot............
and made me piss myself when loads of gay guys took offence, and he had to take back what he said
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
and apologise
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
btw, baseball sucks and is only popular in america and you wanna compare it to how big boxing was?
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
baseball is America is bigger than Boxing worldwide
ur opinion of Baseball doesn’t change that.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
*in America
baseball’s huge in Japan too. It’s definately not my fav sport, but it’s bigger than boxing.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
so america is the world?
I’m pretty damn sure boxing was a bigger sport WORLDwide when Tyson had “it”
ppl do not play baseball around the world, it’s not even comparable to other mainstream sports outside of america, and maybe Japan but Japan has never been a big sports nation.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
Mir saying the things he did won't hurt the UFC at all and that's the point here.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
I was simply comparing how big baseball is
by saying it’s bigger in 1 country, than Boxing is worldwide.
Let me tell you about Tyson, yes he was a beast. But ppl watched TYSON, not boxing. That’s why when Tyson and his crazy outbursts and storylines left boxing, so did many fans. He became bigger than the sport. Millions of ppl tuned in to watch Tyson on PPV to see him ko someone or bite an ear off, he was a cashcow and boxing milked him.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Baseball is around the world...
American football is American, but not baseball. Hence all the Japanese, Korean, Carribean, South American, Canadian, Chinese Tapei. Then you have all the Countires with International Baseball Federation which all have teams and their leagues…Netherlands, Australia, Italy, Spain, South Africa, Germany, Czech Republic, Croatia…It is a mainstream sport in The Carribean, Canada, Japan, South America, MExico, Latin America…2 Major continents have mainstream Baseball everywhere!
Regardless of you opinion on mma, Mir is a prime example of what happens when you stray from the fact that their is still a matter of respect that needs to come in pro sports, never mind that mma has its roots in martial arts. All sports regardless of the contact level should and do have a level of rerspect for human life, sportsmanship, and general conduct even when trash talking. MMA is a professional sport. Part of Professional sports is acting like a Professional: exihibiting of a business like manner. Hoping an opponent is the first death inside of the cage and hoping that you break his neck, maybe talking it a little to far for any sport!
Mike Tyson was an animal, far from a functional human, and far from professional. You talk about him like he can even function in society outside of boxing. If Tyson was not a boxer he would be breaking bones for some gangster in Brooklyn, awaiting a life sentence for violent crime.
Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up they would pound each other behind the barn!"
Incorrect. Boxing was very mainstream until the concept of PPV's emerged and regular fights were moved to cable.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
and there are so many big draws in mma, right? give it up buddy.
Dana has no idea of how much bigger other real sports are.
Combat sports are always going to be in a separate category, media and the average person is not going to completely change, not in our lifetime. If you like fighting you tune in to watch, it’s not a family sport on day time.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
disagree roberto.....
you can watch any of the olympic combat sports through the day time, and considering your geographical location has a lot to do with it………. more people in japan would watch a judo event etc, and fortunately for us they all come under the mma umberella….
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
yea, but don't be comparing those type of sports to real pro fighting.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
type of sports????????real pro fighting?????
do you know how much the gold medalists got paid to fight in pride?…….pro sport only depends on the audience that is willing to watch it, and america and europe are not the be all and end of all pro sports,just because they have the money to pay for it, and i think you will find that over the forseable future the growing economy that is the east, which has a far bigger audience will determine the extent of pro sports…
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
dude what are you going on about? we were talking about pro fighting not being a sport for day time.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
pro fighting is an art form.....
it may have blood, it may have breakages, and it may have blokes loosing conciousness, but it is sport in its purest form………every other sport has evolved from 2 things fighting, and it should be on during the day, all sport is man against man…………apart from man against lion……..which i don’t personally agree with….
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
well, this ain't a proffessional sport and they're president is truly unproffessional.
If you fight you want to kill your opponent that’s what this thing is about.
come on maaayn.
I’m sure very few fighters actually want to kill their opponent. This isn’t ancient Rome RoBbby, no matter how much you wish it were. Wishing death on a fellow pugilist (whom you personally don’t even know) in an athletic competition makes you a sociopath.
Defeat him, yes.
Hurt him, yes.
Destroy him, yes.
Kill him?
No.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 23, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
well "kill him" doesn't exactly mean murder him.
It’s the mentality you come in with.
come on maaayn.
Dana is just making a fool out of himself in media and should shut it really.
I would love for mainstream media one day to expose him for the idiot he really is, and the joke of a business he tries to run.
come on maaayn.
Breaking his neck and making him the first person to die inside the octagon, is death.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
it is death but it's basically the same thing he said the first time they fought.
in the beginning of the ppv. I can’t accept Dana playing around like he does.
come on maaayn.
I'm saying...I didn't mind BJ saying it as much as I do Mir saying it.
It was funny when BJ said it because there was absolutely no chance of it happening. Mir has a chance to actually follow through with his threat.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
When Bj said "til the death"
he meant he was gonna give it his all.
Mir is saying he wants to murder his opponent, and he said it so matter-of-factly, “die from Octagon related injuries”???
Problem here is, lets say there is a freak accident and Lesnar dies from an blow to the head or whatever, now we’ve got a case suited for a Law & Order episode.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
law & order "mma death" themed episode
i would watch…
fuck csi
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters
have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant
buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 23, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
yes...
As evidenced by UFC 100 when Mir got absolutely smashed. GSP probably has a better chance of Killing Brock than Mir does.
by --utaptout-- on Feb 23, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Mir got trashed by Brock. This is like the younger brother talking shit about the older brother who put a whooping on him. Its just cliched shit talk, not a pyschological disorder. Its a slow news day...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
what does sociopath mean?
i hear the word alot, but still don’t know what it means, i don’t think it was out when i went to school.
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Here are some more words for Dana...
hyperbole – 5 dictionary results
–nounRhetoric.
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration
Dana, stop trying to coddle the cash cow named Brock. We get it. You are a Brocksucker.
BJ Penn, " till the death". Actual quote that OPENED the countdown series the Penn v GSP 2.
Nice double standard Dana….or should we say, ANOTHER double standard Dana.
The way people keep saying that Mir is “obsessed” this Brock is like when a sorority girl says that a guy she isn’t interested in asked her out is obsessed with her.
Get over it. Mir has some unfinished business professionally. It motivates him, and it makes him have a story to tell to the press and gets him fights he hasn’t earned. That’s the reasons he is speaking on Brock. HE ISN’T “OBSESSED”. And this is from someone who doesn’t really like the guy.
www.colossaldouchebag.com
Well Said David'
I was going to write something along those lines, but I’ll just ride yr coat-tail on that comment. Save me the energy, feeling lazy here.
agreed roberto
This isn’t the 1st or last time we will or have heard this stuff from fighters in Mma or athletes in other sports.
And as for below:
Brock said sorry for his sponsor debacle. That was necessary for Dana to maintain the money rolling in from them.
Dana only made a stink about this because he is an even larger Brock nuthugger then anyone. That’s his new cashcow of course he’s gonna do this.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 7:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Me too.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 23, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Brock can pretty much do as he pleases. If I wasn't such a nut hugger, I'd say it's bullshit.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
completely fair jay.
At least your honest with it. Unlike some others.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
C'mon Worby.....
so you’re actually gonna make me come looking for you???
Brown Pride >The Nogfather
wow worby.............
first death on mania……………….lol…………….cut that shit out…….
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
freedom 35 and kg12
Congrats kg 12 1st of all.
I hadn’t seen you? Where am I to post you’re riiight? Good call on Cain ill man up.
As for Freedom35, I am not cutting shit out. I’m so sick of all your whiny cry baby excuses to cheer for Brock and cry about Mir. Cheer for whoever ya wanna. But check your bias opinions at the door. Its very easy to sit here and whine. Mir didn’t do anything here that Brock or other competitors in other sports haven’t done. Including ours.
It doesn’t give a black eye to the sport either. It doesn’t hurt football and doesn’t hurt nor help Mma. Its just something that happens non fans of a sport will complain regardless.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2010 1:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I never doubted that Cain would win that fight, but i’d be lying if i said it would happen like that…..i predicted that Cain would work his ass over pretty good, but I figured it would happen over all 3 rounds, and i never saw NOG getting knocked out that quick……i have to say it was a pleasant surprise. Now it’s time to sit back and enjoy watching Cain beat the piss outta the rest of the division….including Lesnar.
Brown Pride >The Nogfather
Same everywhere
Just like every other sport, the is a boss/commissioner that tells the athlete what to and what not to say. He’s the Iverson of the UFC. Runs his mouth, gets in trouble and called a idiot, then he says I’m sorry. He’s a joke.
Yeah, Frankie is a liltte slow on the uptake
I guess he didn’t learn the last time around; his mouth was writing checks that his fighting ability couldn’t cover. That’s why Brock gave him the beatdown then got in his face after the fight.
Calu
I live in Pittsburgh where I listen to WXDX everyday...........
I couldnt beleive it when I heard Mir being his normal hipocritical self. WTG Mir, that is the way kids shoudl act towards other athletes…Isnt that what Mir always spews???
Mir is pothetic. He had a fight with Kongo. All he did was talk about Lesnar. Now a month from Carwin, all he does is talk about Lesnar. Mir needs help. He is so jealous of Brock. I no ,I am not a Brock fan. Mir is just two faced and a hipocrite.
Holy sh*t
when I first read that I thought it just said the UFC reacts to Frank Mir’s death… WTF!!! Then a split sec later I read on. Great story right?
Plus, anyone else think it’s laughable that Dana is lecturing Frank about watching what he says?
Dana runs his mouth ten times more than any fighter going
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 23, 2010 6:41 PM EST reply actions
Dana Doesnt Threaten Peoples Lives
Just Ends Peoples Businesses.
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 23, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he's the boss he can say what he wants but...
He’s never wished anyone dead. It only makes Mir look like the jackass that he is though.
Calu
Frank is an idiot, I knew there would be a backlash
whatever, after he loses to Carwin, and then to Nog in the rematch, he can go back to being an irrelevant can crusher.
Dana has had to apologise before for saying stupid shit and even the infamous Loretta Hunt rant wasn't as bad as hoping to murder someone
Besides Brock had to apologise for upsetting a sponsor, Mir apologising was the only sensible move. It is funny seeing him brought down a few notches as well mind. Hopefully Frank just talked his way out of a title fight and instead Cain will get the shot.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
I hope so
I have no desire to see Mir/Lesnar III. Cain is a good fighter and seems like a genuinely cool dude.
Calu
I'd much rather see Brock-Cain than yet another Brock-Mir fight
At this rate Brock’s going to end up having more fights with Mir than the rest of his fights combined.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
If I’m Mir, I’m focused on the bonecrusher I’m taking on in four weeks.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
He probably can't find anything to say about Carwin so he just uses Brock for the attention.
FUCK YOU TITO! - Mark Coleman
I wonder if Saint Barney will have anything critical to say about Mir’s comments.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 23, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Nah he's been kissing up to Mir ever since their fight was announced
Almost sounds like he’s scared of him.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Nah, he’s just playing the good guy role to a tee, as usual. Carwin will smash Mir.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 23, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
It's gotten to the point where I don't even think he's playing to the cameras anymore
He’s saying all of the wrong things at the moment and it’s really annoying as Carwin should be able to take Mir no problem if he’s mentally prepared.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
Carwin hasn't fought for over a year once they step into that octagon.
I seriously hope Francisco knocks him out and says the same thing once again and beats the system by taking out Brock so he’ll get the money he deserves and not Dana and his corrupted Vegas partners.
come on maaayn.
I'd rather see Cain and JDS make the big money
I don’t like Carwin much but I can’t stand Mir, he’s always annoyed the hell out of me even before he became Brock’s scorned lover.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
same here, same here.
I still gotta give the man some respect he pulls it off pretty good and Dana just wants him to lose to Brock again.
I want all the things that Dana doesn’t want, to happen so i can sit home and feel like “in your face fatass”.
familiar faces in unfamiliar places.
Its not good if we want to keep the sports Image Clean
and marketable for mainstream. Although Ray Lewis does play Linebacker for the NFL.
With that said Mir should know better. The LAST thing we need is a death octagon related.
Exactly
Mir is an idiot. Someone needs to give him a big dose of Ex-lax because he always seems to have a serious case of diarrhea of the mouth.
Calu
Wouldn’t that make his diarrhea worse?
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 23, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think so.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
Or just a good ol' regular butt plug.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
I was gonna turn this one against you
but I at the last second I realized it was you. I pulled back;)
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
Yan
A good ol’ regular butt plug? How regular are butt plugs to you? I’ve never seen one, but apparently you’ve got them all over the place.
JasonFahQ is a troll.
I don't mind being the butt of the joke.
I’ll take a bullet in the ass for a laugh.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
it was a dumb thing to say
… he should have waited until a promo being cut for his trilogy match with Lesnar… then he could have sounded just as lame as BJ.
“I’m serious Brock. I’m not going to stop. I’m going to the death! I’m going to try to kill you. I’m not joking Brock.”
Albino Mormon 4 Life
Good point.
I don’t understand why it was ok for Penn to say that and why it’s a big deal when Mir does.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
It’s one thing to say let’s mutually fight to the death and another to say I want to kill somebody. The latter just sounds sinister.
Calu
Penn said:
“I’m gonna try to kill you and I’m not joking about that”.
Sinister much?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
I hear ya, but coming from a little bald pudgey guy with a constant face twitch just dosen’t seem so threatening.
Calu
bullshit its not the same. or as big of a deal.
Of course it fucking is! Where was Dana then? Better yet where were all of you? If you guys weren’t so bloody bias you’d say the same thing. But you all heart Brock and hate mur. Hypocrisy to its best.
I guaran-damn-tee David WS wasn’t posting 10-20 posts a thread regarding how ‘scary’ this is that Penn said that.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you talking to me?
The only reason I don’t trash Brock (anymore) is because jay apparently likes him and I don’t want to upset him. I’ve been warned.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
BJ sounded like an idiot as well, to the death Georges
It wasn’t as ridiculous as describing in detail how you wanted to kill your opponent and it wasn’t a comment made by someone that cried about someone being a bad role model only to say the worst thing you could possibly say about an opponent. If you want the media to see MMA as barbaric and human cockfighting then go ahead and praise Mir for wanting to break Brock’s neck and kill him, I for one don’t think that that is an acceptable thing for anyone to say nevermind a self-proclaimed role model.
"Not a lot of professional sports down here (in Australia)"
"We just had our best season (of TUF) last season and it was season 10"
"Nogueira is probabaly the best HW of all time"
Dana White, proving that he's clueless about Australian sports, has never heard of Fedor and is still trying to hype up TUF 10.
plz read the quote above
He too said he’d kill him. Not talking bout “to the death”
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2010 9:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
huh? I know he's not talking about to the death.
I was just saying that’s one my of favorite quotes, since when do we stay on topic in mania?
FUCK YOU TITO! - Mark Coleman
okay so then perhaps im not talking to you
Maybe there was 100 posts before you…
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2010 1:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
there reffering to brocks "pastey pride" tattoo...
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters
have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant
buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 23, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Of course not
But I’m white — and you’re allowed to take shots at your own kind
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 23, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
oh chirst here we go - this "Race" crap is ridic
Attention everyone.
If comments like pasty white goliath offend you or if your feeling uncomfortable when they announce Marcus “The darkness” jones to the ring than spend some time investing yourself in some quality Dave Chappelle show season one and two.
It’s 2010 people. We are all open game for racial humour. If it’s funny I say laugh.
I agree
Please no more race talk unless you’re making fun of your own like Jesse.
FUCK YOU TITO! - Mark Coleman
Yeah, take that shit to my thread and deal with it there...that's why I put it up.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
carwin beats mir
after carwin knocks out the unfocused mir then this will all go away.
brock lesnar owns fedor's soul
I dont like Mir
but it’s just him not worrying about being politically correct, which in fact I can’t fault him for. The only thing that is bad about this is that the anti-MMA media, the same media that only report the “bad things” about the sport, will use this in there arsenal of ignorant rhetoric. As dumb as Mir sounds sometimes, he is a smart guy and should have thought twice before saying that.
In the end this will pass and Brock will have his way with him again.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Sorry, to change subject......
Alabama just legalized mma. Tweet from Dana White. I thought they were just gonna stick with freakshow fights?!!!!??
Well, looks like that Kyle Maynard/Jose Canseco fight will have to find another home.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 23, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
LOL @ that
I guess the Beastie boys/Cypress Hill Tag Team match will have to find another home……
Mir better be careful
Shit talking for the fight = Lesnar wailing on Mir’s head and getting in his face
Shit talking for the fight + death threats = Lesnar by Mortal Kombat-esque Fatality
Missing the point!!!
This is a young and growing sport. Stars in the sport have to understand that as the mma evolves into the mainstream dumb shit like this makes it look closer to WWE than legit competition. If mma is going to exist in its current form decades down the road the athletes have to be more professional than this. Mir has a chip on his shoulder that he’ll never overcome! He should focus on what he has instead of what he lost.
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters
have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant
buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 23, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I cannot wait
To see Mir smashed into hamburger meat again.
I was waiting for the kneebar.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Brock got his position back, but then got caught.
The stoppage may have taken away some momentum, but didnt affect the fight that much.
But I gotta agree, I dont know what Mazz was thinkin…and I was rootin for Mir.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Shocked, really?
“But regardless of the comments directed towards Lesnar, it’s a bit surprising to see him still focus on the champ when he has a colossal test ahead of him in Shane Carwin at UFC 111 next month.”
Look at Penn. He has quite a few fights before he can face St. Pierre again, but he makes a St. Pierre comment everytime he’s interviewed. These guys are competitors. They live to fight and to win. Why is everyone so shocked that these “obsessions” occur. This is their life. Oh and SluggerCitySoldier, I agree. Mir will win the third time around. He’s huge, obsessed and Lesnar is going to have not fought in a year. Lesnar should have a warm up fight, but that’s not going to happen.
controversy create ca$h right ric flair!
wooooooooo
i’ll be honest he shouldnt of said it and i want to see the fight more because he did.
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters
have a black belt.
Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant
buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.
Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?
Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 23, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Frank is a douche
Is he gonna break Brock’s neck in a “gill-a-teen” the he “gots” him in? Frank knows Brock was a “collegic” rassler, so he’ll be prepared…like last time.
Hadoken!!
was i not wrong, but did dr evil not state that herschel walker would be the first death in mma from mma related injuries......
and that is from the president of the company………(how did you lot miss that golden nugget)……., the same president that has just made his employee apologise for the exact same thing that dr evil said about the current 1 and 0 fighter in strikeforce.
it seems clear to me that dr evil can say and do as he pleases, while his"employees" are not allowed to engage in the same type of gutter talking, that the shit spouting, retarded, self promoting, jibba jabba talking, crazy fool, figure head of the company is allowed to lower himself into, monkey see, monkey do…..etc etc.
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 9:47 PM EST reply actions
Dana was talking about how one sided and dangerous the match would be
due to Herschels inexperience as an MMA fighter, that it could possibly be the death of him. How is that the same wishing someone was dead and actually wanting to cause the death yourself. They are two completely different things.
He did go...
out of line, but Lesnar is the true villain in this situation. He’s disrespectful post fight antics are the root of the problem.
Greasy St.Pierre is a cheater.
Penn, Ortiz, Big Nog, Mir, Belfort, Barnett, and Nick Diaz.
by xxBAxx816 on Feb 23, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also...
Funny how you call GSP a cheater when your sig names you a Josh Barnett fan.
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
You're right
Brock was totally unprovoked and Frank talked no shit before that fight at all….
Hadoken!!
Y'see...
Trash talking is a bad idea against guys bigger than you. They end up coming in pissed.
And honestly, do you trust a scrawny little referee to pull a 280lb. monster off you while he’s smashing your face if the latter would rather not?
After a minor genealogical search, I have determined that Cain Velasquez's great-grandfather was a truck.
And Mirko Cro Cop is a direct descendant of a wrecking ball. But I think you already knew that.
lol thats why Miragliotta should ref all their fights, with a backup
by --utaptout-- on Feb 23, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
i thought it was mazzagati?
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
with big john and big dan as a backup...
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Mir's a retard, just like Brock
I can’t stand how Mir talks like he’s smarter than everyone else. Its clearly a defense mechanism. He’s so butt-hurt about the ass kicking he took at UFC 100, that he wants another shot. Meanwhile, he’s looking past Carwin, and I predict that Carwin is going to do the same thing to him that Brock did, maybe even faster. Then what is he going to say? How’s he going to insult Shane? Mir’s an ass. I wouldn’t want him to be the first to die in the octagon, but I’d be cool with him having his jaw wired shut for the rest of his life.
you can't say that.........
he got knocked of his bike on the way to the shop to buy some milk, and everyone hates him for it…..and just cos he uses it as an excuse for his hate for every other fighter on the planet……………the fact is he got knocked off his bike, and hates everyone else for it……….sorry, i’m a trolllllllll………………..may i rott in hell….
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and he's not that intelligent at all
Paraphrasing Frank from any WEC broadcast: “He gots him right there…” “He wrestled collegically…” Fuckin idiot should not be paid to speak.
Hadoken!!
War Machine gets into porn, haha
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
has he been caught yet????????
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Atleast Mir..
is not one of those guys that talks trash and then at the end of the day just sucks. Mir seems to be getting better and better and learning from every fight. I expect this next fight with brock to be a real good battle
hahahahahaha...........
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 23, 2010 11:47 PM EST reply actions
Anybody remember when Tyson said he wanted to eat Lennox Lewis babies?
I found that far more disturbing. But he also got his point across, that he was crazy and one extremely bad man. And i watched him for it.
who cares
Look at the way Brock was frothing at the mouth at the end of the last fight. You’re telling me both of those guys don’t want to kill each other? Every once and a while in combat sports there are two fighters who literally want to kill each other in the ring, they just usually don’t say it.
Fighters build up their hate about their opponents to heighten their psyche. Was it out of line and classless? Totally! In fighting though some of that goes with the territory, hitched to the same double-wide trailer carrying Brock and his inbred foaming from the mouth family.
The facts IMO
1. Mir is not a sociopath. He was out of line, and probably realized how much a F’d up his “ambassador” image with the backlash he’s received from said comments. They were highly ignorant and highly unprofessional. I’m actually very surprised he got caught up in this. This also was a huge mistake on his part from a business perspective. If Mir/Lesnar 3 actually happens and he gets owned like he did in 2, it leaves him no outs really.
2. To say that this doesn’t hurt the UFC or MMA as a whole, is completely unrealistic and ludicrous. Till this day whenever MMA bashers are on news segments they air the most gruesome, most violent footage they can find and use phrases like “soccer kicking downed opponents” along with “foot stomping” from the old Pride says. They also show footage of people going limp and folding in half to show how barbaric the matches can be. On the flip side, when DW made one of his first appearances on TV on the O’Reily factor, he brought out Rich Franklin (Former HS teacher) for image sake – Also probably b/c RF is intelligent and articulate in his choice of words as well. Everything televised fighters say and do on camera or radio has an impact. You absolutely can’t deny it. Just wait to you see some hick senator on the tube quoting “human cock-fighters wish their opponents death in the CAGE”
3. DW may be brash, but he is not an idiot and he does not run a sloppy business. Fighter’s are making more money today then they were anywhere 6-7 years ago. He is the main catalyst to legitimizing this sport (that we all love to debate an watch) and giving it the needed exposure to pave the way for a stronger foundation.
4. You cannot compare MMA to the NFL, NBA, Golf, soccer, World Cup, etc or even boxing for that matter. To do so, is to be completely clueless. BB and FB are huge in the US but are not as big in other countries. To disregard a county like Japan is also a huge mistake. They are the x1.5 the size of California and house half the population of the US. MMA is one of the biggest attractions there and is aired on day time TV. Golf is a huge sport worldwide today with 100’s of millions of people following it, but you have to think if it never existed and someone had just created the game and decided to air it on TV, how many people would call it stupid and say “they’re hitting a pingpong ball with an iron rod”. Can’t even imagine the trolls on that one.
5. MMA is still in a stage of infancy. No doubt it will only get bigger and it will be as main stream as it gets, maybe even olympics one day. If you disagree, think of any other sport that’s made it this far in the last 15 years. A whole new genre has been created from scratch, and now it even airs on CBS and PPV’s every month. If curbing and figure swimming is competed on an international level for medals, then I think MMA will be one day too.
by blackbiird on Feb 24, 2010 2:17 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with every point you made here...
Having trained before, I can say that there’s an honor among fighters. Ive never hated any opponent. Rather I respect them. Most fighters think the same way, and no one focuses on that. The media wants to focus on the negative, like always. They never mention that Cro-Cop is a cop, or when Goran Reljic saved the life of 2 guys after their car went into a lake, or that Rich Franklin is a teacher. They never mention the thousands of lives that have been enriched by martial arts training, and the respect it teaches people.You want to talk about an honorless fighter, look at Mayweather. There isn’t a single big name fighter in all of MMA thats as big a piece of shit as he is.
by --utaptout-- on Feb 24, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
Good post blackbird
but i dont think MMA will be an Olympic event anytime soon or maybe ever. I can see MMA going worldwide, but it wont be accepted by the IOC as an Olympic event. There will always be ppl who deem this sport too violent (and i can see their point). It’s not for everyone.
I would like to see bjj in the Olympics. That’ll guarantee Brazilian a few gold medals.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
The issue that Dana has with it is...
a lot of people already hold MMA and the UFC in a negative light. They call it barbaric or human cockfighting, blah blah blah. Dana is trying to expose that there is genuine skill and hard work required to do it, and its about competition, not violence. A comment like Mir made would make people think the opposite of what we as educated fans know to be true. I don’t usually agree with Dana, but he’s right in my view.
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