Zuffa brings legal action against dot-com that streams unlicensed feeds of UFC programming
by Jesse Holland on Feb 19, 2010 2:58 PM EST
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The Zuffa legal eagles are flying high again, this time swooping down and sinking their talons into the scurvy pirates at www.rage-streams.net.
After UFC President Dana White vowed to make life miserable for the chiselers who stream illegal feeds of live UFC programming, the Las Vegas Sun reports that the Zuffa legal team may have bagged their latest casualty in the war on pirates.
Argh!
Zuffa is suing Moazzam Gandu of Stafford, Va., for running the website www.rage-streams.net and reportedly offering UFC 110 for a paltry $6.95 per feed.
The suit also alleges Gandu has offered illegal streams of at least 40 past UFC events and profited from the advertising that accompanied his site. No-Gan-Du!
The Vancouver Sun outlined the proactive approach from UFC head honcho Lorenzo Fertitta -- who recently testified for the US House Judiciary Committee during a referendum on internet piracy of sporting events. According to him, the Zuffa anti-piracy team uncovered 271 illegal streams of UFC 106 with over 140,000 viewers.
From Fertitta:
"The piracy of live sporting events is illegal, it kills jobs, and it threatens the expansion of US based companies. The UFC is potentially losing millions of dollars a year from piracy."
While I'm sure not many fans are losing sleep over the UFC's missing money, pirating pay-per-views is illegal. They may not be able to stop Internet piracy (many have tried and failed) but it's not unrealistic to think a few high profile cases involving the average Joe would at least help to deter future pirates.
Like the idiots who post their links to the illegal streams in forums that record IP addresses.
Consider yourself warned! (Again)
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so, where can i find these streams?
I feel like im the only one actually payin for it. If I don’t buy it, I have to wait til Sunday morning to catch it on mmalinker or some other site. which sites streams the events? I’ll check out justin.tv.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
ustream,atdhe,justin are just 3,hundreds of others.just google it.
by tap or snap bons on Feb 19, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Just my opinion on the matter
The UFC shouldn’t cut off their nose to spite their faces.
This is coming from a fan that orders every UFC PPV and doesn’t ask his friends to chip in.
Simply put, MMA is still growing and the UFC is making millions , probably edging a billion.
Personally, I think it is more important for the sport to continue to grow, even if thieves are getting a freebie.
They can’t steal UFC tickets, or a lot of merchandise…. the UFC still has a way to make $$ from them. These thieves won’t be as interested in other things if they aren’t watching.
If the UFC sells 1,000,000 tshirts at $20 each to people that didn’t pay for a PPV, don’t you think they are still making money?
Don’t pick on your fans when they are still a smaller group, let it explode a bit more in popularity because you give yourself negative publicity. (they have a right to defend themselves but most of the public won’t see this as a positive action)
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
A lot of people, not necessarily you Jason, have been up in arms this week about what the UFC pays the fighters. If they are losing millions in revenue to piracy, then a portion of those millions are not going to the fighters.
In short, anyone who bitches about what Dana pays the fighters and bitches about losing their free pirated stream is a hypocritical douchetard. There, I said it.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
Regardless of the Illegal Streams
People complain about fighters pay compared to what the UFC brings in. The loss of revenue isn’t included. The fighters should be gettin’ paid more right now, and if the UFC succeeds in shutting down these illegal streams, and inturn generates more income, then the fighters salaries should increase once again.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
I was about to reply to p dub’s comment but you hit the nail on the head two words. Their current profits are more than enough to pay the fighters more, and also not all their money comes from PPV revenue, much of it is from live gate and TV deals. That was some faulty logic there, PW.
Also, Dana’s comment about losing millions to piracy is probably assuming that all the people who watch illegally would otherwise buy the pay per views, which we all know is totally false. I would say a relatively small proportion of those who watch it for free would be willing to pay 55 bucks for one of White’s overpriced PPVs. I mean, honestly, what other form of entertainment than fighting expects ppl to pay such an absurd amount for a television broadcast?
"Matt Hughes and his brother used to pound each other out behind the barn."
-The legendary Mike Goldberg
no, pdub is right
hypocrits. they are providing a service just like every other business, and to not only allow others to steal from you but let them re sell it and make money is stupid. owners of businesses are going to make what they feel is their cut regardless how much they bring in. if they made more money instead of it getting stolen they might spread that to the fighters.
you’re missing the point…
The issue of piracy is totally unrelated to salary. WITH THEIR CURRENT PROFITS they have plenty to pay the fighters more. There profit margins are ridiculous.
You don’t think other businesses deal with theft? Does anyone say Walmart shouldn’t pay its employees more because they deal with shoplifting?
"Matt Hughes and his brother used to pound each other out behind the barn."
-The legendary Mike Goldberg
*their
"Matt Hughes and his brother used to pound each other out behind the barn."
-The legendary Mike Goldberg
Really? You look at their profit sheets?
Or are you just speculating? They also rent venues, pay a small army of staff people, pay for boatloads of advertising, PR, marketing, etc. Oh, and they pay their fighters good money for the MMA biz. Unless you actually look at the UFC’s profit/loss ledger, you’re just speculating.
by MMACrossfire on Feb 19, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly there is no "should"
If the fighters don’t want to fight for the money they are offered…….then they shouldn’t fight. If the Ferttitas hadn’t poured money into the franchise and taken a huge risk, the fighters wouldn’t even have that opportunity. Had the UFC folded at some point and they ate however many millions, no one would have felt bad for the Fertittas because no one would have known who they were. They took the risk, they reap the benefits.
Not afraid to nitpick
Sec
I’ll give you some direct links to the streams right here in this thread
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Too late
I’ve already seen the difference in availability. I’m not taking any chances this weekend. This is a card I would buy anyway. Good luck.
The one and only Smitty...
the UFC won't chase you
they’re aiming for the sites who actually stream it, not the individual ppl buyin it.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
care to provide a site where i can find a stream?
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
ya its buyityoucheapbastard.org
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
by bigbadbunbun on Feb 19, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if i knew how to message you i could give you something
that you would enjoy…..im sure a lot of people on here know about it S__ C__T
Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next
They'll always be around...
The only thing is, the UFC probably isn’t losing too much money since people that watch online feeds probably weren’t going to pay for the PPV anyways.
They should probably adopt the Apple model and offer their own online feed at a discount (maybe $15-$20). It may cannabalize their PPV sales a bit but most would probably still want to buy the PPV to watch for HD or on their TV instead of their monitor. They could also probably lower their PPV prices as well, but that probably won’t happen.
lower the prices?
sure, i can’t see them doing that. don’t you know they have to pay most their fighters on the ppv a four figure pay day…and how they gonna come up with mad cash like that if they knock 10 or so bucks off their ppv’s??? you must think these zuffa guys are millionaires
The do knock off $10 for PPV streams
UFC.com and Yahoo Sports offers live streams with 24hr of playback for $10 less.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
$10 isn't enough of an incentive...
But it’s a fine line becase you don’t want to cannabalize your regular PPV buys
exactly.
I think a bit more off would be fair. But hey, it’s better than not streaming at all.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
$10 or $20 wont matter much
people will either pay for it or wont. not saying which i am incase zuffa tracks me down and sends the ufc secret police round. but lets role play. IF i were someone that downloaded ppv’s. and if they lowered the cost down to $15 per ppv. then if i were a downloader i’m sure i would be fine waiting a day to watch it and spend my $15 on something else like groceries. people who buy ppv’s will buy ppv’s, people who watch it illegally will watch it illegally no matter what they try to do. and this guy has streamed 40 ppv’s. will over the past 40 ppv’s zuffa seam to be doing alright for cash. i’m thinking the money they’re blowing on hunting their white whale could be put to better use taking care of the spandex clad cash cows who make these ppv’s possible
disagree
most of the time i pay or a friend pays…but some other times, i wait til Sunday morning and catch it on mmalinker if the card is so-so…but if i had the option of spending $15 or $6.95, i’d take it in a heartbeat. I guess if I could always watch it for free, I would.
The guy streamed 40 PPV’s. Sure, the UFC is doin fine, but they also look at the lost revenue. Imagine how much better they’d be doin if everyone paid for it. Thats how the UFC looks at it. Would you be ok with someone takin’ $20 from your wallet everyday? No. But you’d be doin ok, i hope.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Exactly; if there was a legal, quality feed that was nrore affordable, I think more people would take advantage of that.
This is the same thing that Apply did with music. The same argument was being made: who would pay for music when you can download the whole album? Well, Apple has made some nice coin off their iTunes store.
Maybe the UFC can do the same and charge a marginal fee per fight. Like $5 for a main card fight, $1 for undercards, and $10 or something for the main event. Then you get to pick and choose which one you’d like. Also gives the UFC an idea who’s actually a draw.
I just made up those numbers but you get the idea.
not a bad idea.
those numbers are pretty low tho. The entire PPV card would have to be cheaper than the individual fights combined. They would have to charge $20 for the main fight and $10 for the undercards. This would only apply online.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
hmm
if there’s a free internet option out there lots would still take it. everyone i know who watches ufc downloads it. and if the streams can be stopped, the downloads can’t. it’s pretty much futile trying to stop internet piracy. people will come up with other ways to do it. if people don’t want to pay they wont. you have people who buy ppv’s and people who don’t. and beyond these people earning more or less money not much will change that. lots of people still value food, rent, bills and real life interactions over paying a silly amount of money for a tv show you can get for free. companies have to adapt and work with it, all types of media get pirated and there’s jack shit that can be done about it. hell how long have we had photo copiers in libraries and that’s ok because books don’t have flashing lights and entrance music? who hasn’t downloaded any music illegally, who hasn’t downloaded a movie, a tv show, photocopied pages from a book for school work, used a photo somewhere online they didn’t take or have permission to use if anyone has done none of these things or anything similar, then they can take the role of “ufc is right, go get those internet pirates” otherwise it’s a bit two faced
lost revenue is only lost revenue if the people who watched the streams would buy the ppv if they didn’t watch the stream. if they stopped all the streams and the people who had watched them don’t buy the ppv’s they’ve not gained any revenue…as if they had the money i’m sure they’d buy the ppv’s in the first place instead of watching the streams.
imagine how much better the ufc would be doing if they charged an extra dollar for each ppv, an extra 2, an extra 5, imagine how much better the ufc would be doing if they paid less wages if the card was half made up by third world children fighting in the undercard for $2 a fight. of course i’m being ridiculous there but to be a “how much better we’d be doing” company can lead to bad things for people but good things for pockets type situation when they go chasing fantasy cash
and if i had the money of the top brass in the company and was a millionaire i wouldn’t mind not making an extra $20 here and there. there’s a difference between not making $20 and having $20 stolen from you
they’ll spend more money then they’ll ever retrieve chasing their white whale
hmmm reminds me of a joke
A man walks into a psychiatrist’s office wearing only underwear made of Saran Wrap. The psychiatrist says, ’Well…I can clearly see your nuts.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
Nobody said that the UFC is trying to eliminate online streaming/piracy completely.
They are trying to re-direct some of those 140,000 online viewers into paying customers. Fair enough, but I do agree that suing some of the streamers won’t achieve that goal in the least.
Like I said, Apple is a great example that you can make money off things that you can get for free illegally.
There going after the sites that have the streams not those that use them
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
i totally agree
the apple thing. case in point of someone adpating rather than trying to fight the inevitable
but you see with the no one said that ufc is trying to eliminate online streaming or piracy completely. why wouldn’t they? hell metallica wants to. if they don’t eliminate ALL ways including downloading…there’s no point eliminating just one way.
They have to pay their fighters? no waiii...
My argument was that if they lower their prices a bit, and charge for an online feed, they might be able to recover the price being dropped.
Also, I do think those Zuffa guys are millionaires. How else do they afford their ferraris?
i know
i was being sarcastic. most of the fighters get paid little compared to the money made by zuffa, not to mention the money they make from mags, toys, games, tie ins and all that merch crap. i think they should worry about the way they treat fighters(and ring girls) before they worry about live streaming. and if they stop live streaming then what? people will just download the ppv’s, stay off the blogs for a night and watch the ppv’s sunday morning…not like people don’t do that as well.
Ah my bad
I agree though that they have other things to worry about. This is their lawyers though creating work for themselves.
They deserve those Ferraris!
Let’s be real, if you invented a product, or at least made it become popular…… how would you like it if the public just forced the opinion that you have made enough money and they will just steal from you now. That’s BS!
Fighters are paid on a very easy scale to comprehend, Supply and Demand. There is not a HUGE demand because you have everyone and their brother wishing they were an MMA fighter, mainly due to the sports recent rise in popularity. Why fighter A $1,000,000 to fight when Fighter B is just as exciting and will do it for $100,000.
When there is less demand (when people wake up and see they aren’t going to become a GSP) money will get better. In 10 years or so all of these 10-12 year old kids will have been training MMA their whole lives like boxers and football players and ect and when it is at that point, the public will realize more how special these athletes are and they will paid that way.
That’s also why you have the Elite few that make a fortune…. their demand is up!
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
idealism and greed
lets start with you, if you have ever downloaded a song, a movie, a tv show, photocopied from a book, used a photo you didn’t take or have permission to use as an avatar or displayed publically…you have no room to talk on the subject of theft
in an ideal world everyone would get paid an enormous amount of money and no one would ever steal anything from anyone. but lets be real. there’s no escaping internet piracy. and like i posted below. i bet even dana white made a mix tape for some chick when he was a teenager. movies, music, photography, the written word, everything gets pirated these days. i’m not saying it’s right, i’m just saying it’s a waste of time and resources to try and stop it. figuring out how to adapt is the way to go.
i’m also not saying every fighter should be paid at least 100,000 a fight. but if a company is making a multimillion dollar pay day of a card that you may very well only be padding out, lets treat you fairly. and the supply and demand isn’t what fighters are paid on. fighters are featured on demand…not sure where the supply part comes into it. but people may only care about the anderson silva’s, gsp’s and brocks. but would people pay ppv prices for one headline fight and nothing else? no, so they fill the card with fighters who aren’t in demand. if you only used “in demand” fighters on a 10 fight card you’d have one or two cards a year of star filled fights. how many fights has each in demand fighter had in the past two years, gsp, anderson silva, brock? enough to fill how ever many ppv;s and fight nights the ufc has each year?
whether you want to see them or not, these not in demand fighters make the cards, make the millions for zuffa. so throw them a few extra grand here and there, make sure if they lose their ability to earn while making you millions of dollars then make sure they’re compensated.
They are trying to eliminate the live stream sites
They don’t care if you see the fight on the computer 6 months later, well nearly as much anyway. Who cares if you photo copy a book they are free to take out of the library anyway. No matter how you put it it’s illigal.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
you get me wrong
i’m not saying it’s not illegal. i’m just saying it’s a waste of effort, money and time. money that could be better used
photocopying a book is unauthorised reproduction, stopping that book from being bought and the writer being paid. i just think it’s hyopcritical when most if not everyone has been involved with some sort of shady internet piracy.
For anyone complaining about the UFC fighters wages
You better not say one word about the UFC being assholes on this subject.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
Piracy will never be stopped completely
You have a very small number of people trying to stop an enormous amount of activity on the net…they can surely dissuade people..but if you look hard enough, you will find it… its wrong..but its been going on for years and will never stop
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
HYPOCRITES
I BET EVEN DANA WHITE MADE A MIX TAPE FOR SOME CHICK HE WANTED TO BANG.
Making a mix tape is not a problem, at least not a legal problem. If he takes that mix tape, makes mass copies of it and sells it without giving royalties to the artisits and record labels, then it’s a crime.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
oh
i’m going to go make a mix tape right now then, some girl will be putty in my hands before midnight, slap some charles and eddy on there and it’s a sure thing
having said that though, if person a records a bunch of songs and gives them to person b. so person b wont go out and buy the music from the artists. isn’t that “stealing” money from the recording artist because cyndi lauper lots $1.25 from a copy of “true colours” that wasn’t bought from sam’s world of audio casettes?
Oh Shit
that dude kicked me off his jtc channel and i wrote zuffa about his site and told them what he was doing…and now he is fucked …hahahaha…dam im an asshole..o well dont ban me from a channel for no reason and you will be aight
Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next
^^^^^^^JTV i mean
Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next
aint you the f**king saint
well done tosser
FUCK YES!!! - was my reaction to the announcement of UFC 110 in Australia. Now I get to live my dream of watching the big show live!!
GET THE FUCK OVER IT
Its a recession/down right depression so get over it! Fuking cry baby UFC, if you cant shut down streaming sites as fast as they go up, then maybe you should HIRE more people! No one cares if a couple average joes get taken to court, what are you going to do, sue them for millions of lost revenue? Its laughable to see the UFC or anyone exert control over something they have NO control over.
Look people, I guarantee you that if people could afford the PPV then they wouldnt watch choppy ass low quality streams. Especially with the level of quality of fight cards dimishing over the past year. Alot of people simply cannot afford to shell out 50 bucks, twice a month…thats $1200 anually. However, how many have people become dedicated fans because of the ability to stream an event here and there? Seriously, the only people that make the argument that you should pay for every event are the ones that can afford it.
In terms of this idea that you’re somehow taking money away from the fighters. The fighters have a salary worked out, prior to any event. They don’t get a cut of the PPV buys, like in boxing, so the argument doesnt hold up. Plus, how many people addtionaly fans are the fighters gaining that buy that fighter’s merch/ increase that fighter’s marketability?
Lsstly, this idea that its “illegal” automatically makes it wrong, is bull shit. Legality is not always based on ethics. Ethics is the philosophical discussion of right and wrong, if you want to have that discussion, fine, but dont give me this circular argument of “its wrong because the law says so, and the law says so because its wrong”
Yes there is bonuses to the fighters for successful PPV sales
For the ones tha tcan’t afford it how do the y pay for their computer in the first place and internet? there are many bars across north america that have it for free spen $10 on pop and food while your there? And if your not in college get a job like the rest of us. Theres no excuse for stealing even if your broke.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
that's another point
so if bars become the place where most people watch it. would that mean the fan base would return to the type who boo when it goes to the ground and only want to see strikers hammer it out that joe rogan is so proud to declare the sport has moved away from? the sport was dragged out of the drunks in bars by an educated internet following who see’s the potential in the sport, who spread the word and showed people it’s not about blood mulleted punchy wasters. so in a zuffa world of internet piracy extinction would it be in danger of the next generation of fighters being tank abbot jr’s?
Bars
I see your point, although personally I hate to see wrestler’s ride out oponents for 15 minutes and get their hand raised. I wrestled my whole life, and if I wanted to see that, I would go to a dual meet. Im not sure what the solution is though, I always thought takedowns should only give you points if you are able to inflict actual damage following the take down. Otherwise, its not different than two fighters clenching and grappling for position, one just happens to be on bottom one on top.
yes well
you can’t pick and choose haha. yes some of the “classic chess matches” were goddamn awful but on the whole it’s a much better scene with a real appriciation now thanks to the internet. i remember watching fights way back when, where you’re seeing some pretty neat grappling and the crowd is booing and fighting each other. the change of mood in the audience and it’s education is something dana white and joe rogan use in legitimising the sport. dana with his “so and so country is cheering the fighter from this country instread of there own country” and joe rogan surprised by fans cheering a 3 round grapple fest, it’s now a sport “you can take your girlfriend to”. all stating the evolution of the fans is tied with the evolution of the sport. but bar drunkards chanting “U.S.A” throughout an event and throwing chairs at each other and duking it out is something that they could be returning to after trying so hard to get away from it?
What do you mean by damage though?
What if there’s a takedown and then he punches the guy once. That’s damage.
Anyways that’s a discussion for another topic; not this one.
maybe better left for another topic...
but yea, landing a strike of some sort. In the end, I think grappling and octagon control should be done in an effort to give you an advantage to land strikes or submit your opponent. GSP’s last fight against Thiago, he took him down repeatedly, but landed virtually no strikes, thiago escaped, only to get taken down again and again. Another example is the last Rashad Evans fight. We didn’t really see who the better fighter was those nights, but who was better able to take advantage of the rules and scoring system. I heard Kenny Florian say that in terms of defending submissions, you really only need to be around the equaivalent of a brown belt, and you can stop 99% of the shit thrown your way. So these wrestlers get on top, than spend the rest of the time riding their opponent and defending submissions. I give em props because the ability to ride and control another man takes years and years of wrestling, no other substitute for it, but it just makes for cheap wins. I mean if it were a wrestling match, I would be completely impressed but its not, its mma. Once these BJJ and Strikers catch on and learn how to escape from the bottom position, fights well be more even. In reality, in terms of wrestling the bottom guy has a better chance at escaping than the top guy holding him down. That’s why in competitive wrestling when given the choice, to take top or bottom you always choose bottom. (escapes grant you points) but, if the guy sucks at wrestling, then you take top…unfortunately thats the matchup you have in MMA alot of times.
Come on...
Are you seriously comparing the importance of owning a computer/internet to a UFC event? Internet and computer are basic needs, especially for students.Regardless of having a job, which is alot easier said than done in this economy, PPV’s are entertainment, the distinction in terms of budgeting should be obvious.
I agree that you should never steal, even if you’re broke. However, I think your definition of stealing needs to be adjusted when you’re talking about a an infinite commodity. In other words, we’re not talking about stealing a candy bar. There is no limit to the number of streams, and no extra cost associated with streaming a fight.
i believe so
i also believe by the “stealing” is wrong even if you’re broke. he has never downloaded anything, which is a form of theft, no music, no tv shows, no movies, no anything. he’s the only internet person who has never EVER used the internet in some dirty piratey way
and condones the theft of bread by a starving family from a wealthy land owner who exploits people to get fat on their labour. if all stealing is wrong even if you’re broke that is.
exactly
anyone put in an extreme situation will take something that isnt theirs, if it means guaranteeing your own survival or that of your family. The level of extremity required to push a person to steal may vary, but everyone can get there.
yes yes
and i extremely need to watch mma events and don’t have the pennies to pay for it haha. not that i watch live streams. never fancied that, the quality would be crap no?
and really, what more proof do you need than this whole thing being a waste of time and money when you have joe rogan on air making a joke about the whole thing immediately after they have to read out the copyright infringement thing in the actually ppv’s? how many times have we heard him snigger “you can’t fight the internet”?
I know a site where you can Watch UFC/Strikeforce Events Free the Next day:
The site is: www.mma-core.com
everyone do yourself a favor and DL sopcast thats all i have to say about that…message me if you want the channel #
Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next
From what I hear (and I know nothing) SopCast is prolly the best “free” option out there.
I’ll be chippin in $5 to watch it at a friends house with a bunch of guys. That’s the best route to go. If you dont have any friends ??? I’da know what to tell ya. Maybe SopCast and stuff like that is all they got.
I’d rather watch it in HD with 10 good friends than on a computer monitor. Is $5 too much to spend?
dam $6,000,000
they are suing him for wow
Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next
I feel for you guys
If the UFC was PPV over here (UK) I’d never pay for it. Especially since I have to stay up til 3am to start watching it.
PPV is something that’s just never really caught on over here and I’m glad. How much is it per event?
clarification
“Like the idiots who post their links to the illegal streams in forums that record IP addresses.”
So according to the article, if you host live streams and charge for it you get prosecuted (of course).
Do you get personally in trouble if you post a link to some illegal site? I wouldn’t do it of course, it’s stupid, but…that stuff is illegal too and authorities would approach the website owner and ask for IP adresses? Is that what’s going on?
REMEMBER ME. i will be in the ufc one day. Mark my words
by PrettyBoyy91 on Feb 18, 2010 2:06 PM PST
Come and get me Zuffa
I’ve already paid for UFC 110 as I’ll be there tomorrow morning personally, however I still intend to download the event and will continue to do so until PPV prices are reduced. So come and get me Zuffa if you want but considering I’ve purchased ove 60+ dvd releases as well as the first 9 seasons of TUF and numerous other merchandise items. So I could give a toss about how much money you thing your losing which is kind of justice for the fighters whom you continually under pay given the large revunue made off UFC events.
FUCK YES!!! - was my reaction to the announcement of UFC 110 in Australia. Now I get to live my dream of watching the big show live!!
Lower the price to $20
At $20 per PPV I would pay for almost every PPV instead of 1 or 2 per year. That will equal more profit and more exposure. This sport needs to grow more and I think lowering prices will get many more viewers. Also, make it cheaper for bars to show them for gods sake. Current prices are way too high.
Over charge = Piracy.
Legal Action
There are many bars across north america that have it for free spen $10 on pop and food while your there? And if your not in college get a job like the rest of us.
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