Cesar Gracie: Nick Diaz a target for little morons and Nevada politics
by Jesse Holland on Feb 19, 2010 10:38 AM EST
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"People who don’t like Nick Diaz, that doesn’t make sense to me because here’s a guy who has never put a syringe in his ass in his life. He’s a clean fighter. Obviously [marijuana's] not a performance enhancing drug, so therefore trying to take the guy’s win away – all of these guys testing positive for steroids, and we’ll focus on Nick’s weed thing forever. Oh, we did steroids, that’s fine. Let’s not talk about that. You did some cocaine or something. People have this fetish for the weed thing or something. Obviously he wasn’t stoned for Gomi, but Nevada State with that idiot over there. I can’t remember his name. The little moron guy that was only an athletic commissioner guy because his daddy owned the hotel. He was pathetic and he wanted to make an example of Nick because, who knows? There are theories. Nick wasn’t in the UFC. The day Nick’s not in the UFC he’s testing positive. That was kind of a weird thing because he always smoked the night before (UFC fights). Then all of a sudden he’s in Pride and he’s testing positive. Oh we’re going to take your win away. Pride actually paid him a win bonus after he tested positive. They said, ‘nah, this is just a bunch of Nevada (expletive), and he won that fight.’ He got the win bonus and he went on from there."
Cesar Gracie talks about the obsession some members of the mixed martial arts community have with his top pupil, Strikeforce Welterweight Champion Nick Diaz, who admittedly includes marijuana as part of his daily training regimen. The foul-mouthed fightmonger had his submission win over Takanori Gomi overturned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission after testing positive for dope in his first fight outside of the UFC at PRIDE 33 in Feb. 2007. Is Diaz a victim of a Nevada conspiracy? Or a pot-smoking pugilist who doesn't want to play by the rules?
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ceser is 100 percent correct
Everyone gets knocked down, but we rise as champions.- Matt Serra
by CanadianSensation on Feb 19, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions
funny stuff. That little man got the job because his dad owns a casino. Awesome. I love people who aren’t afraid to tell it like it is. Corrupt athletic commissions need to go away.
Probably Tony Alamo Jr whose dad ran a number of strip casinos (but I don’t think he actually ever owned any). During the NSAC meeting Alamo basically accused Diaz of being high in the locker room – NSAC Changes Diaz Win to No-Decision
NSAC and CASC are making MMA worse
If they aren’t supplying judges whom aren’t capable of judging a fight properly, they are apparently using politics with drug testing…..
It’s not just the fighters whom suffer, it’s us too. If these commissions were any good, we’d very rarely have to talk about them, yet they are in the news just as much as the big orgs and their fighters.
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions
But he could smoke a pack of cigarettes before a fight and they wouldn't say shit...
people are finally starting to wake up how stupid marijuana prohibition actually is.
by HappyLittleTreez on Feb 19, 2010 10:50 AM EST reply actions
Hope the marijuana prohibition thing goes the same route as the alcohol prohibition.
Hope it becomes legal in the end!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Well I think it’s getting closer. A major movement before alcohol was legalized was “medicinal alcohol”.
The fuckers who lobby to keep it illegal should be charged with treason. All those people employed to arrest, incarcerate, and imprison their own citizens and for what?
"Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn’t the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural?" – Bill Hicks
by HappyLittleTreez on Feb 19, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
OK I agree that it should be legalized…
But the fact that it grows naturally being your argument is really stupid. There are plenty of toxic plants that grow naturally.
"Matt Hughes and his brother used to pound each other out behind the barn."
-The legendary Mike Goldberg
Yeah but people don't smoke hemlock for enjoyment...
And I guarantee big pharma is the reason Poppy is illegal. It’s the main ingredient in ALL of their pain killers.
It’s not my main argument. Just an observation that something that is naturally ocurring AND non harmful should in no way be illegal.
by HappyLittleTreez on Feb 19, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Pot is illegal for two main reasons
1. Hemp is a competitive product to cotton. In fact, it’s superior. Just as cheap and easy to grow, but has more uses (clothing, rope, food products, etc.). Back in the day, the cotton industry (which was a major money-maker for many elite/politician types) didn’t wan’t to deal with that.
2. Anti-Mexican Bias. Once the U.S. took over a large part of Mexico (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, SoCal), criminalizing pot was a way to persecute Mexicans who had a culture of smoking pot to unwind from hard work days.
As time went on and these two issues subsided, marijuana prohibition was kinda just grandfathered in, and the whole “Reefer Madness” phase was created by ignorant, fear-mongering politicians as a way to justify the continued prohibition. How it’s managed to stay illegal this long i beyond me.
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
by Stillberry on Feb 19, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Most of that Mexican territory was purchased. Except for Texas. We kicked their ass and took it, cause that’s how we roll.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
haha...purchased...both your country and mine were "purchased" from the natives...I wonder how that bottle of shine, box of shiney rocks, and $124 is working out for them
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Feb 19, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
When you say 'my country'
Do you mean Texas? Because that may not be far off. There is a surprisingly high number of people here who favor Texas secession.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
I mean Canada...I assumed you meant US...but hey, Texans can do what they want
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
lol I swear I am laying in bed, smoking a blunt while reading this awesome/informative Marijuana debate!
I guess u guys know which side of the fence Im on! lol
purchased, took over: same difference
it doesn’t change my point
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
I liked your point actually and didn't know about....
“2. Anti-Mexican Bias. Once the U.S. took over a large part of Mexico (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, SoCal), criminalizing pot was a way to persecute Mexicans who had a culture of smoking pot to unwind from hard work days.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Feb 19, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
That point is very interesting but there is really no way of verifying it. Point #1 is a solid fact.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You can't verify it 100%
But you can look at where the first laws were put into place, and the people that lived in these regions and deduce the reasons.
"If Tito would just use his head as a battering ram, he never lose"-Rampage
Truth to number 1 OJR...
Cotton plantation owners can burn in hell!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yep....
If you ever see the show “History of Marijuana” on the History Channel it talks in detail about how cultural and racial bias was a major(if not the leading) factor in the prohibition of marijuana. Actually the same thing kind of happened in California with the Asian immigrants who brought opium with them.
"If Tito would just use his head as a battering ram, he never lose"-Rampage
It has to go through a process before it is usable.
Not really the same.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
yup
Marijuana, you just grow, harvest, and dry. That Coca-ina has to be chemically processed to extract and concentrate the good shit
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
Actually the coca leaf has...
stimulating effects in its whole, natural,leaf form. People indiginous to the Andes mountains of Western South America have used it for centuries to help with getting through the grueling tasks of physical work at super high elevations. It supresses hunger ,thirst, pain and fatigue. They are traditionally chewed with lime to increase the release of the active ingredients from the leaf. It does not cause the euphoria or pyschoactive feelings when chewed whole and has never been linked to addiction, in this form.
Medicinal uses from wiki:
Traditional medical uses of coca are foremost as a stimulant to overcome fatigue, hunger, and thirst. It is considered particularly effective against altitude sickness. It also is used as an anesthetic to alleviate the pain of headache, rheumatism, wounds and sores, etc. Before stronger anaesthetics were available, it also was used for broken bones, childbirth, and during trephining operations on the skull. Because cocaine constricts blood vessels, the action of coca also serves to oppose bleeding, and coca seeds were used for nosebleeds. Indigenous use of coca has also been reported as a treatment for malaria, ulcers, asthma, to improve digestion, to guard against bowel laxity, as an aphrodisiac, and credited with improving longevity. Modern studies have supported a number of these medical applications.[which?]3
"90 percent of the game is half mental" – Tim Sylvia
"He wants to get in close to use that reach advantage." – Mike Goldberg
Mike Goldberg: "You can hear the corner speaking portuguese!"
Joe Rogan: "Uh, that's Japanese, brother"
Mike Goldberg: "I should have known that."
Joe Rogan: "You're the one married to a Japanese chick."
Mike Goldberg: "That is correct."
that why i said “the good shit.” Raw coca leaves are a stimulant and have some medicinal effects, but it’s not much more of an upper than a couple cups of coffee. if you want the white powder cocaine, it must go through processing
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
100%agree......
love, don't hate - freedom
freedom is not a nasty person, speak sense to him and he's fine - elvis presley
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 19, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions
This is the "But, he was talking too" arguement
from grade school. At the end of the day your fighter broke the rules and the law. The fact that other people are doing wrong things is irrelevant. Get your own $#!* together and stop worrying about everyone else.
Do not. I repeat, do not, go to mma-core.com. I made the mistake of watching a couple UFC 108 bouts on there and I am still trying to get all the viruses of my computer. Ridiculous! You've been warned.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 19, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions
exactly...Nick's his own worst enemy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Feb 19, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
He wasn't breaking the law.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Maybe not Canadian laws, but here it’s still illegal.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
he had a medical mary j card
he got it legally
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Yea but you still can't piss hot for THC before/after a fight..
It’s not like he didn’t know that.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Then he broke a rule, not a law
Get that shit right.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Jay...
I didn’t say he broke the law….
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I was talking to the original poster
“At the end of the day your fighter broke the rules and the law”
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Fine you don't wanna talk to me?
Be like that then..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
At the time it was still against federal law. Federal law supersedes state law. So yes he did break the law. That being said, as a life long Pot hater, it’s still a stupid law. If i had to fight Diaz I sure as hell hope he’s high as a kite at the time. Make it easier for me to run away Starnes style.
Afte thinking about the issue, I decided I’m favor of legalizing everything. Pot, heroin, meth, crack, whatever. If someone wants to be a drooling, brain-dead waste of flesh, then let them, so long as the guvmint gets their cut of it all. Plus it would put all those god damn Mexican cartels out of business.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
Trust me Dubs
The guvment is getting their share from crack proceeds. Who do you think was bringing the stuff in when it all started? They used to trade weapons for crack with the Niceraguans(sp?). I learned all this from a book called “inside the crips”.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Freeway Ricky Ross
Ran drugs across the border and distributed crack throughout the US for the CIA. And yes, this product was traded for by the US government with the Nicaraguans. There is some really interesting literature about this as well as the Iran-Contra scandal from the same time period(Reagan’s admin). Fucking ridiculously crooked shit.
"If Tito would just use his head as a battering ram, he never lose"-Rampage
if fed law supersedes state law....
then why can people legally smoke it in cali?
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
He was caught in Japan
What does that have to do with American laws?
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Well, Im from Sweden and i know this :)
Becuase it was illegal on a federal level, the medical-marijuana-shops could still be inponded and prosecuted, but not the costumers, because it’s legal on the statelevel.
I don’t think the owners of the shop could be sentenced either. It was just DEA’s way of fucking with them.
Correct me if im wrong, americans, but this I got from Super high me".
You're right.
I found the same info. And it is whack.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Yep, fortunately the Obama Administration came out and said they won't go after medical dispensaries
Which is a huge shift from the Bush Admin. Thank God their not wasting more of our tax money to try to eradicate something that has, and always will be, around.
"If Tito would just use his head as a battering ram, he never lose"-Rampage
Federal law does supercede state law
if they choose to enforce it. President Obama recently gave a speech on this where he basically said he’s going to let Cali slide on this one. But yes the feds could go in any time and bust that up. If the state of Ohio made a law where abortion was illegal the feds would jump all over it. For all intents and purposes it is still against federal law they just choose not to enforce it. But Jay has a point, Nick has his “medical” mary jane card and so in his state he is good to go. Now bring that on a plane and smoke it the night before the fight as Caesar admitted here and you are breaking the law. So my comment stands.
Do not. I repeat, do not, go to mma-core.com. I made the mistake of watching a couple UFC 108 bouts on there and I am still trying to get all the viruses of my computer. Ridiculous! You've been warned.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 19, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
He broke a law, that is BS and needs to change! Just cause a minority group of politicians decide that its wrong, that doesnt mean it is....I dont blame Nick at all. I cant do my job without smoking every night. I would lose my freaking mind!
I would be a serious detriment to oth6ers if I couldnt smoke…..Its a way of life for certain people, and wh6o th6e fock is a few politicians to tell me th6at h6ow I am living5 is wrong5.
If I werea fig5h6ter, with6 all th6e nerves involvd, I would NEED to smoke th6e nig5h6t before just to g5et a g5ood nig5h6ts sleep. Im dead serious. I cant sleep with6out smoking5, and I dont want to take sleeping5 pillas and be slug5g5ish6 th6e next day. I also dont want to stay up all nig5h6t and onlyt g5et 3 h6ours rest before anoth6er work day….wh6y sh6ould Nick be pentalized for th6is? Its the law that needs CHanging, not NIcks behavior!
For certain people its jus a way of life that only has a calming effect. I dont even remember what its like to play a basketball game without smoking pot 1st. I wrote every last paper, and studied for every test in college, while smoking pot…and I did very well for myself. Of course if pot had the steriotype effect on me where you get all stupid and dont know what you are doing, then its a different story….but it can be wrong and sure as hell shouldnt be illegal!
Way to go! That's also how I rolled in school..Study high, take the tests high, Get high test results!
And I think your buzz is off the charts while typin’ this shit John. Look at the letters and characters that aren’t supposed to be there, LOL
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
He broke the law
At the time Marijuana was 100% illegal in Nevada
Yes he is.
He’s a total waste of talent. He thinks he’s this bad-ass but he’s really just pissing his carer away fighting in strikeforce fighting nobodies. If he would get his crap together who knows what he could do. GSP would toss him around like a rag doll though.
Calu
He just faced and beat the Dream WW champion
How is that pissing away his career fighting nobodies?
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
bigger story here is.
how he did it before his fights in the UFC and never got caught. Has any fighter that’s been fighting in the UFC at the time ever got caught in Nevada? the judges and all of those ppl surrounding the fights suck!
come on maaayn.
haha
was gonna say the same!
increases by ability to chill out and munch down
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
It also enhances your ability to see through time, man.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
Truth!
You see it all in slow motion, unfolding right before your very eyes!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
One of the biggest reasons fighters run out of gas is anxiety. So it makes perfect sense that anti anxiety drugs of any kind aren’t allowed. If Diaz can’t put down the bong a couple of days before a pro fight then he has a problem.
Jared- Weed stays in your system for months. So by “putting down the bong” for couple of days before the fight won’t do shit. All though it sounds like you can use a hit or two. I mean…you’re clueless without smoking it!
Everybody is different
Some people can clean themselves out in a couple days; some people are gonna piss hot for a month, it all depends.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
"Some people can clean themselves out in a couple days"
Where are you getting your information from? You’re dead wrong! It’s going to show up in a blood test if you smoke it a few days before the test no matter who you are!
Who takes a blood test for THC??
I’ve been on probation a couple times, I’ve requested blood testing in leiu of supervised piss tests; THEY DO NOT OFFER IT for THC. A hair test is $125.00 a pop; I’m sure they CAN blood test for it, but you think an org is blood testing for THC and waiting for lab results? They’re lookin for aids, hep a, hep b, blood borne pathogens, they piss test for drugs, they blood test for medical. And yes, your piss can be clean in a couple days depending on your body type.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
No way OD, not a few days, 3 weeks min and thats after a shit-load of cranberry juice.....
Maybe someone with a metabolism like Wolverine could, but the average Joe, no way.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I'm speaking from personal experience
Believe what you want I guess..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well pleased to meet you cause this is a first for me...lol
You are in the minority there as far as pissing clean or however you provided in a few days, and I’m sure most people have had to provide at some stage in their life and wouldn’t be puffing a few days before a test, just my opinion I suppose.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Sad but true OD...
THC stays in my piss for a minimum of like 40 days. If yours came out clean in a matter of days, then you must’ve just smoked the first few times in your entire life, ‘coz I’m a chronic and have been smokin’ the shit since 15…
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Again, not true;
It depends on the persons metabolism and the half life of THC, both are almost impossible to predict in giving a general answer like “40 days” or “30 days”; it varies greatly from person to person, so you not being able to pass a drug test after 2-3 days of trying to flush your system is not indicative of how fast the same amount of THC will leave another persons body.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Factual site, looks like it depends on how much you smoke, so 'True Smokers' will fail more than likely.....
The speed at which marijuana leaves your body depends both on the speed of your metabolism, as well as on the half life of THC. It’s estimated that THC can have a half life that ranges anywhere from 1-10 days. It’s almost impossible to find out what that half life is, which means that it is very difficult to use it to calculate how long it will take for all of the THC to leave your body.
For this reason, when you ask "How long does marijuana stay in your system?" you have to realize that it’s very unlikely that you’ll be able to get a usable answer. The most common period of time is anywhere from 3-30 days, depending on your metabolism and the amount of marijuana that you’ve smoked. This is unfortunate, since it means that while most drug tests can only turn up evidence of other drugs if you’ve been taking the drug within a few days of the drug test, marijuana could still be detected in a urine test up to a month after the last time it is used. If you smoke it occasionally it will remain in your system for up to 10 days. If you smoke marijuana on a regular basis it will stay in your system for as long as 45 days, and if you smoke marijuana at a constant pace, it can stay in the body for 90 days, Marijuana is fat soluble. It stores in the fat cells of the body, the brain, the liver, the kidneys, in other words the major organs.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
yep exactly..
Different people, different amounts, different results.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
But in all fairness OD, long time smokers, they know who they are will fail, and have no chance of passing after a few days...
Occasional chuffers might pass but people who smoke every day, will fail. You must not be a lover of weed or else you have a different metabolism to the average person.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Again..
“The most common period of time is anywhere from 3-30 "
implying that there are uncommon periods of time, I started smoking weed freshmen year in highschool; I’ve slowed down a lot in the past 2 years, but passed many drug tests with no problem within the 8 yr period that I smoked nearly every day.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, you are lucky imo, but i'll give it a little more than a few days if I have to provide anytime soon, believe that...lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Yea I'm not saying you should/could
I’m just sayin layin down a general rule on it like “It WILL take you at least …. days no matter what!” isn’t going to be near accurate.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 19, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not a doctor and I doubt you are so i'll just read the facts and make an intelligent judgement, not being smart either just incase you think I am but like I said the facts speak for themselves imo...
If you smoke marijuana on a regular basis it will stay in your system for as long as 45 days, and if you smoke marijuana at a constant pace, it can stay in the body for 90 days, Marijuana is fat soluble. It stores in the fat cells of the body, the brain, the liver, the kidneys, in other words the major organs.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Also i am basing my points on smokers, you know hat I mean??
People who use weed daily, like people drink coffee, or smoke cigs, or have a beer, not just people who pass a j around every weekend cause they are drunk. I don’t even like sharing j’s, once I roll it, i wanna smoke it myself….lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I'm a chronic user and passed my last test 4 days after smoking
I smoke everyday and quit for 4 days and ran a shit-load and drank a shit-load of water and pissed clean for a job. I do have a very high metabolism, but just wanted to say that OD is correct. In fact, in high school I was tested with one of those oral swabs 3 days after smoking and passed. Also, OD-they do blood tests for drugs for some life insurance policies. Don’t know of anywhere else that does outside of toxicology reports for accidents and the like.
"If Tito would just use his head as a battering ram, he never lose"-Rampage
I used to smoke and never tested positive in a few pre-job piss tests, my brother always pisses clean, and so do quite a few of my friends.
Blood or hair takes a while but you can piss clean really soon after not smoking.
by SplitBreast on Feb 19, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
You're dead wrong.
Actually. THC is out of your blood in days. It takes longer for the piss to be clean. And it’s true. The piss can be clear in a couple of days. I know. But it’s all curcumstancial, and it obviously depends on how much of it you smoked.
how long it stays in your system depens on your bodyfat
higher bodyfat, you need longer before you piss clean. THC is fat soluble and is stored in your fat cells
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
Read a book or just stop commenting....
How about you go fuck off??
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
tkkpal
you seem a very angry person
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Feb 19, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Not in the slightest dog.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
3 comments since you registered and two of them insulting,
Nice.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
You don't even know me dude.....
And I have no opinion on you cause I don’t know you so if I bring out the worst in you, you need to get out more.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
So you need to know someone before they can annoy you? Bullet proof logic there, now fuck off. Wasted enough of my precious, precious time on your dumbass.
Go fuck yourself my friend, as if I give a shit about your precious time...
And who the fuck you calling Dumbass, like I said, you don’t even know who I am or what I’m about so where do you get off with your BS?
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
TKK. Look at his posts. Have any of them contributed to the discussion at hand? Ignore him.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If you want to contribute a thoughtful opinion on something then have at it. If all you can do is come on here and start runnig your mouth at the regulars like you know something, then take it elsewhere.
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PW - It will only get worse with spring break and the summer. Time to start regulating...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Shit
There’s a few youngsters on here who do a good job, but I’m not looking forward to all the 12-year-olds getting on here. Maybe I’ll just write a post about how Kimbo is NOT awesome and save it so I can just copy and paste whenever they start acting up.
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There should be an age limit of 20 and over and I'm not just saying that now that my teenage years are over ;)
Seriously there’s always some idiot who shows up in the holidays talking shit on forums, the regulars can deal with them if they get out of line.
By the way Kimbo sucks balls and weed is wrong. Last time I said those things on a Nick Diaz pot thread I was public enemy #1, lets see what happens this time.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
You're still public enemy number 1 David W-S!
Hehehe!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
sure anti anxiety if u consume alone or with some friends,
but being stoned silly in front of 20,000 people would make you freak the flip out! haha
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
i dont see what the big deal is...
i smoke it if i want,not like i crave it.people need to have self control.personally i prefer getting drunk over the high.
"When are people going to realize that G.S.P is half man half amazing!!!"
Peter Merino(myself)...no im not famous but my quote was published on the ufc website
by mmasavvy on Feb 19, 2010 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
he's still a ballbag
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 19, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions
Nick Diaz is the man
talks shit and brings it to the cage everytime.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
I love marijuana
But cant stand Nick Diaz. My dislike for him has nothing to do with weed. He’s just a prick.
Confucius says:
"Baseball is wrong: man with four balls cannot walk."
why so mcuh hate for weed?
u drink alcohol? or coffee? if you do you are a hypocritic POS
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
i havent had an acoholic drink in probably a year or more, never smoke, and have never even tasted coffee.
I’m not saying you are a dumbass for smoking weed. Do as you want. I personally hate anything smoked, cigs or weed or whatever.
For me it’s a personal choice. Just like attempting to be impartial and respectful is a personal choice. I for one never understood why it was illegal. I would assume once the GOV can figure out a reliable way to tax it it wont be any longer. I also never understood why it is such a touchy subject. Must be the increase in estrogen THC causes. that would explain the PMS like touchiness.
and for the record had i claimed that all potheads were a waste of life then smoked behind closed doors, THAT would be hypocritical. If I had claimed that all Drugs are bad then got drunk or loaded up on energy drinks THAT would be hypocritical.
Claiming that I dislike weed is no more hypocritical then saying I dislike you.
Jus sayin…
I can buy booze and coffee at shops
I’d have to buy weed off some dodgy dealer, breaking the law and in some cases risking my life in the process.
My last weed comment was tounge firmly in cheek but to call people “hypocritical piece of shits” for consuming legal drugs and not smoking pot is a ludicrous comment. If enjoying the occasional binge but not smoking weed makes you think that I’m a piece of shit then good for you mate, though honestly I don’t care what anyone thinks about my choice to drink but to not smoke.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
i never ever said...
that you are a pos if you consume legal drugs and not consume pot….but if you are against pot, and say you hate it and everything else, but then you drink alcohol and coffee then yes, that is ridiculous. you can not consume pot, i dont care, but dont label it as a terrible drug unless you know some facts about it!
i know so many people who think pot is the devil, yet have no problem with alcohol, coffee, cigarettes, and what not…they think this drug is bad just because it is deemed illegal by the govt…society says it is okay to be addicted to coffee, but you puff a J and you are a criminal!
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
People get addicted to coffee?
I didn’t like the “hypocritic POS” comment that rubbed me the wrong way. I’m not getting into another rant over weed and honestly it’s up to you if you want to smoke it, personally I don’t see the point of it and I’d rather stick to alcohol as I know my limits and can buy it in shops or bars whenever I want.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
You've never said anything wrong about pot, David.
You’re one of the normal non-smokers.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
David Your So gay for not smoking pot....everybodys doin it
bustin balls. I dont Smoke either but I just finished a cup of coffee and Im gonna do my best to make sure I get black out shit hammered tonight
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Good to hear mate
I’m saving my drinking for tomorrow night, then catching up on 110. I always seem to end up partying when the UFC is on then having to watch it the next day, oh well at least it’ll be something worth gettting up for in the morning so I don’t stay in bed all day.
Hoping for wins by Wand, Big Nog and the Wire tomorrow.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
blazin is def not performance enhancing
mad funny he smokes the night b4 ufc fights
and still used to take it to ppl…ie robby lawler
he was prob mad lit during the karo fight thas why he dropped the dec.
"mad funny he smokes the night b4 ufc fights"
Why? It’s not like booze where you wake up with a hangover and can’t move all day. That’s one of the beauties of the stuff!
exactly dude
and you really think he was lit for a fight?? you would have to smoke like 1-2 hours before the fight to be that stoned during the fight..anytime before that you would just be dragged out.
so u really think that instead of warming up he went out a blew one down? gimme a break!
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
yeah but u shudnt be blazing during training period. bc of testing
thc takes like two weeks to get out of ur system.. so he has blatant disregard and cesar is sayin the ufc used to cover it up
and i know the effects that bud has on ppl trust me
Ok Doc, I trust you.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Budweiser?
If you drink a stupid amount then you might throw up or do something stupid then feel ill the next day but honestly I drink loads of Buds and it never gets me smashed. Now spirits, shots and cocktails are another matter entirely but from my own personal experience I’ve not felt any different after drinking a Bud than before. Usually I drink beer if I don’t want to get drunk or just as a starter.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
He's talking about buds. Not budweiser.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
LOL
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
LMAO!!!!!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Always liked Bud, I can't stand English lager though British bitters are really nice
And “bud” just gave me the excuse to babble about booze.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Bud is so terrible…. Now Pilsner thats a beer
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
by bigbadbunbun on Feb 19, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
I like Bud, one of the few beers I can stomach.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Buds my favorite
i dont fuck with imports except for mexcian and canadian
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Then you have no palate sir!
Corona and Modelo are way better than anything American. That includes Lonestar for all you texans!!
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Corona sucks, Modelo and Dos Equis are the best Mexican imports
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Don't badmouth Lonestar
It’s the National Beer of Texas. If you want a good Texas beer, try a Shiner Bock. I would tell you Ziegenbock, but if you aren’t in Texas you can’t get it. They won’t let it out of the state.
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P-Dub
When I was ‘given’ Lonestar to drink I was walking around a festival with the cans in my hands and I swear every Texan there treat me like royaly. I’m English but I ended up getting high 5’ed everywhere I went.
So funny
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
national beer of texas huh? whos texas' president?
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Yosemite Sam?
You guys should try this beer here. It’s called Red Horse beer! Europeans and Americans here love gettin’ hammered by it. Says there’s quite nothin’ like it where they come from. :)
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
You could swap the labels over with corona and modelo
and you wouldn’t tell the difference. Esp with a lime in it!
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
i dont like fruit in my beer
and negra modelo and modelo especial both trump corona
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
I like it in my lager
and they hardly trump it. you could put a rizla between the difference in taste
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
That should red 'I like it in my Mexican lager'
It’s getting late and i’m drunk
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I like mixin' apple in my beer...
Try it, I’m sure you’ll love it!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
50% Correct
Bud is shite (can’t think of an American Lager which isn’t) but Pilsner is actually a Lager ;-)
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
she begs to differ
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
The single best thing about bud right there
The difference is shagability!
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Bud is awesome
I could drink that stuff all day. Also nice to see that my used bottle tops came in handy.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Nice shogun if the beer doesn’t have the most carbs fat and salt i don’t want to drink it
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
by bigbadbunbun on Feb 19, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nice shogun if the beerlager doesn’t have the most carbs fat and salt i don’t want to drink it. There you happy nazi!
I made 10 grand on mmaplayground in 2 UFC shows so don't question me
by bigbadbunbun on Feb 19, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ha ha. I know this is off topic but most of the threads on this post are too so can someone answer my query? When I was younger I played in a band and toured the states twice. Both tours took in around 45 to 46 states each over a period of 8 weeks. We got Bud (spit) every night on our rider but i noticed that the percentage of alcohol varied from state to state. (The taste was still consistently vile though!)
Can someone confirm this please and let me know why or how this can be???
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
bud heavy and bud light
and fuck off for your taste views
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
Plain ol Bud only
and fuck off with your Bud views!
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Some states have different laws about alcohol content in their beer. Oklahoma, for example, can’t sell beer in bars that is over 3.2% alcohol, as opposed to the normal 5.5% that most states enjoy.
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Cheers man
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 19, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
That's criminal
Well that’s one reason (of many) to never go to Oklahoma, seriously 3.2% that’s ridiculously low. Even light beers are stronger than that bloody hell.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
5.5%?
Colt 45 here is like 7%. Red horse is 7.5%. Nothin’ quite like it here when it comes to gettin’ hammered! And your dollar could get you a liter of the shite! CHeap ass beer that could kick the livin’ shit outta you!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
I like your style Neg
If you ever come to England you you sound like a man whom would relish 4 cans of either Carlsy Spesh (9.9%) or Kessy Super (9.9%)
Not drinks for the conisieur (sp?) but certainly drinks for budget conscious hell raisers like your good self. A mere £5 will send you into the cosmos then straight to A&E
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Feb 20, 2010 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
It's the fuckin' government! When will they ever learn
that marijuana ain’t a drug!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
Legalizing marijuana would cost the goverment and sellers millions and millions of dollars
How will the goverment make any money of it if everybody can grow it in there homes, how will they regulate peaple selling it to those that don’t? And right now they are making millions in drug bust every year. And a large percentage of the quantity sold across north America is sold by criminal organizations, what would these organizations do for money if weed was legal? Financially it makes no sense for the goverment to legalize it and even though thats not politically right I think it’s the truth. Why go through the entire process of legalizing this and in the end they will make more money keeping it illegal and keep the criminal organizations pushing a drug that is much safer than drugs they may push if it ever became legal.
Thats my guess anyway?
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
tell that to british columbia
whos pot industry ranks second in GDP contribution!
and that info was given before the recession..and i guarantee you that the recession has had no effect on that industry!
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
De-criminalized, not legal.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
If the government were to legalize pot and tax it like cigarettes and alcohol
they would make a shitload of tax revenue. sellers would need marijuana licenses just like liquor licenses. so it would fall under ATF regulation. not only that, it would create more jobs because you would need regulators, and all the sellers and distributors would now have legitimate employment.
as for the criminal organizations, there is no criminal organization that makes most of its money on pot. they are already dealing with the hard shit, but that’s a different issue entirely
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
I said above, legalize it ALL. If somebody chooses to turn himself into a drooling, useless crackhead or meth head nimrod, then have at it.
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Marijuana is a much bigger business than hard drugs stillberry here's one little article
Almost all of the marijuana consumed in the multibillion-dollar U.S. market once came from Mexico or Colombia. Now as much as half is produced domestically, often by small-scale operators who painstakingly tend greenhouses and indoor gardens to produce the more potent, and expensive, product that consumers now demand, according to authorities and marijuana dealers on both sides of the border.
The shifting economics of the marijuana trade have broad implications for Mexico’s war against the drug cartels, suggesting that market forces, as much as law enforcement, can extract a heavy price from criminal organizations that have used the spectacular profits generated by pot sales to fuel the violence and corruption that plague the Mexican state.
While the trafficking of cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine is the main focus of U.S. law enforcement, it is marijuana that has long provided most of the revenue for Mexican drug cartels. More than 60 percent of the cartels’ revenue — $8.6 billion out of $13.8 billion in 2006 — came from U.S. marijuana sales, according to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
so i'm wrong about the criminal organizations part.
that was speculation on my part. still, The U.S. gov’t stands to make a lot of revenue and create jobs by legalizing pot
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
For sure
I honestly think it’s coming but it will still be some time. Fines and penalties are much softer now. I think it will be much tougher to regulate than alcohol or tobacco. has anyone tried to grow tobacco by themself or make their own brew? Marijuana home grown is the best why pay for it if you can make better productthan that on the shelf and it’s pretty basic gardening with little costs. Combined with the money that would be lost by the criminal orgs is really keeping it from being legalized sooner than later.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
I still think the hard drugs bring in more money...
Try watching “Blow” starring Johnny Dep and Penelope Cruz…You’ll see what I mean.
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
That's No Woman No Cry
And you call yourself a stoner.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
I'd smoke Nick under the table
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
like cool hand luke eatin eggs
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Feb 19, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
haha... id love to train there and get high with the diaz bros and gilbert melendez
jake shields prob doesnt blaze
yeah
shields seems like a big-time goober square
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
Eddie Bravo should train with 'em too!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
i hate the stupid fucking arguement about weed being a plant
is the reason it should be legal…
yea well cocaine comes from the coca plant…and me being a lover of the cocaine im gonna start using that argument…“hey its a natural plant”
my dream fight would have to be Brock Lesnar vs Jake Shields...and before the fight theres a video of jake slapping brock's wife...then id like to see shields try to gay porn a win over brock using his butt sex merry-go-round tactics...the massacre that would take place would be the greatest thing ever televised...every limb jake has would look like corey hill's leg...god i hate jake shields
Yeah thats a bad arguement
The fact that a large percentage of Canadas and US’s population are users of Marijuana, it’s used for medical purposes and we are suppose to live in FREE COUNTRIES were we should be able to smoke it if we want to smoke it by a certain age just like alcohol.
`Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
it's different for weed and coke
weed requires no chemical processing. just harvest and dry. the coca plant itself is no more dangerous than weed in its natural state, it has to be chemically processed and concentrated down before it becomes sweet sweet Cocaine. just chewing on sume dried coca leaves is no more of an upper than a couple cups of coffee
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
People say the MaryJane makes you forget stuff man....
I was gonna post a comment, but I forgot what it was???
Smoke some more so you'll be enlightened and you're gonna remember what it was you're gonna' comment.
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
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