UFC Quick Quote: Keith Jardine looking forward to an 'exciting test' on Feb. 21
by Jesse Holland on Feb 15, 2010 12:22 PM EST
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"I’ve been looking forward to fighting a wrestler for some time now. We’ll see where this fight is going to go. I think he’s going to try to stand with me honestly. He might force it to the ground, and if he’s really after those takedowns it’s going to end up on the ground eventually because he’s a two-time All-American. Maybe we’re going to see some of my grappling. It’s been a while since I’ve been underneath anybody for a good amount of time. I get a chance to test my skills now, and that’s the way I look at it, as a test. The guy throws very hard, very strong punches, but he’s a great wrestler and he hasn’t really used his wrestling yet. He might break it out for this fight, or he may not, but it’s an exciting test for me."
UFC light heavyweight Keith Jardine weighs in on his upcoming UFC 110 fight against Ryan Bader at the Acer Arena in Sydney Australia, telling the gang at TapouT Radio that "Darth" might elicit a grappling game from "The Dean of Mean," who's known primarily for his striking. The TUF 2 graduate has fallen on hard times lately, dropping two straight and coming in as the underdog for his Feb. 21 scrap. Will he prove the oddsmakers wrong? Or is he on his way to a career-threatening three straight losses?
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Ha! Or he's going to bite him.
I like Jardine – he seems like a nice guy who works hard, but his chin, mediocre athleticism and inability to consistently follow a game plan hold him back. I do think he’s a smart fighter, but I think Bader may have the psychological edge here, as well as the chin and athleticism.
I really would like to see Jardine put a couple wins together, but it’s hard not to avoid the pattern. If there is an upside for Jardine, it’s that Bader isn’t overly aggressive, a la Wanderlei, Thiago, Houston. Hopefully Bader’s tentativeness allows Keith to establish a rhythm.
THeres nothing wrong with his chin!!!!
Vs Houstan he was hit behind the ear, then bumrushed
Vs Wand, he was hit behind the ear, then bumrushed (are you really going to call a guy “weak chinned” because Wand KO’d him???)
Vs Chuck, he never got dropped even though Chuck tagged him a bunch in the 1st round
Vs Rampage, he never got finished (dont even start with “overtrained” Rampage)
Vs Thiago, he just got KO’d, straigh up, theres nothing to dispute there.
My point is that he’s faced a bunch of guys known for KO power, and he’s only been put to sleep by 3. and those aren’t TKOs, they are KOs.
My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim
Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
by Synyster_08 on Feb 15, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
The most important thing to remember with Jardine
Is that he only fights 10 guys for the most part. He’s looked good in some of those fights and looked bad in others….that’s what happens when you fight the best.
The thing that Jardine has going for him going into this fight is that Bader is a lesser version of Rashad. He doesn’t have the speed of Rashad but he has more power since he is a bigger LHW but I’m sure training with Rashad will help him out immensly. It’s hard to find someone like Jardine to spar with.
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Feb 15, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I meant top 10 guys
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Feb 15, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
no his chin is a crap in the sea compared to how big of a problem his lack of technique is.
come on maaayn.
Actually, it's 4 KOs.
As NNR pointed out, Jardine was KOed clean by Travis Wiuff with one shot. Of course, it’s usually early in the first round when fighters are most susceptible to KOs, but I think it still demonstrates an important point – Jardine has been KOed four times, and each with slow recovery (i.e., he doesn’t appear to regain clear cognitive function within a few seconds).
I’m not hating — I actually like Jardine as a fighter, and I root for him during most fights (the exception would be Wanderlei), but in my opinion, he’s the one with a history of big KO losses, not Bader — and it’s plausible to think that will affect Keith mentally, i.e., he may be distracted and/or panic during the fight and stray away from his game plan. I’m sure Ryan Bader’s coaches are aware of this, and they’ll exploit this weakness by having Bader fight aggressively.
From what I've seen, Jardine doesn't get too mentally rattled or shaken during a fight.
remember he was getting caught with punches vs Chuck and he hung in there all 3 rounds, and stayed with the gameplan vs Vera.
I dont really think Jardine is a mental midget.
My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim
Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
OR
He’s simply complying with a mouth guard check.
You have to note the words "looks like"
and comprehend what they mean. Had I said " He is screaming at that guy", then your post would be meaningful. Get the difference?
That's how he opens his mouth when the dentist tells him to.
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 16, 2010 4:52 AM EST up reply actions
GNP stoppage for Bader.
Glass chin and unorthodox (aka shitty and undisciplined) = going to sleep.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 15, 2010 12:25 PM EST reply actions
And then once in a blue moon he looks like a top contender
Honestly though against Rampage he looked pretty good even though he lost and Bader is a far cry from Page calibure as a fighter but with saying that Bader is much better than Houston and the question remains what Jardine is going to show? Chuck, Page, Wandy,Vera and Thiago are Jardines five opponents, now Thats some skilled competition you have to give credit to Jardine for taking on tough fights. Now Bader is one of those guys that I beleive will be able to beat Jardine my only concerns, I think it’s to early and to big of a jump in competition from Shafer to Jardine?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Hard fight to call
Nice points Puck…Bader hasn’t faced anyone even decent, let alone a top 10 LHW so it’ll be interesting to see where he’s at talent wise and Jardine has essentially become a gatekeeper to the top 10. Bader has some power in his hands but he’s not very technical. He’s got some great wrestling though and will dictate where the fight takes place.
I’ve heard countless times that Jardine has a great ground game and I hope we get to see it for a change. Jardine is so hit and miss though that it’s hard predicting what Jardine will show up on any given night. I will say this…he’s only gotten beat by some of the more powerful punchers in the division…except for some reason Rampage couldn’t really light him up.
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on Feb 15, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Jardine's ground game.
he landed some good punches from the top on Vera, and was able to rough him up from the clinch, and negated Vera’s Kimura attempt.
Vs Wand, he was trying to get back guard while getting bombed in the face repeatedly, so its not like he’ll stop moving and just cover up.
And what I think is the biggest attribute to his ground game:
in the Thiago Silva fight, Thiago got him down, but Jardine was able to sweep him with a butterfly and stood up rather quickly.
I dont think all the “Jardine’s got a good ground game” is inaccurate. I think he’s a well rounded grappler.
War MEAN1
My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim
Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
by Synyster_08 on Feb 15, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage couldn't get him because he kept trying the same three punch combo all fight long.
Standing Jardine is always one left hook away from a KO. As far as his mat work, he’s never faced someone who can hold him down. I see this thing going like his fight with Lawler. Jardine tries to establish something off his back and catches a hammer or two straight from guard.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 15, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
How do you mean Lawler?
From this quick quote, Jardine seem to concede that he is gonna be put on his back a lot. I know what he means about the fact Bader is an All American so it’ll happen at some stage. But he didn’t say he looks to keep it standing, or get back up. Maybe I should listen to the rest of the interview but if he’s looking for an sub I dunno how its gonna turn out
Sorry NNR
Forgot to finish my question. Who fought Lawler? D’you mean Tom from the TUF show? Really can’t remember how that finished cept with Bader winning
Yea their first fight in the house. Bader just sat up in his guard after the takedown..
and dropped a bomb on his chin that put him out. I get the feeling tha’ts what will happen if jardine tries to establish a closed guard.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 15, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Jardine
is bigger and has exceptional BJJ
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 15, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Jardine is a small LHW physically.
he’s not athletic at all and looks very soft, like he’s about to break. + he doesn’t seem to have any control over his body.
come on maaayn.
he came down from HW...
are you saying Jardine should drop to 185? or just pack some more muscle?
My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim
Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
Nah. He a fat-assed LHW...Look at the flabs...
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 16, 2010 4:53 AM EST up reply actions
he's been looking forward to fighting a wrestler b/c
he’s scared of getting knocked out again, which he should be nothing wrong with that, i just don’t see him winning this fight unless Bader shows up worse than expected.
come on maaayn.
I Dont Think...
Jardine has a “glass chin” he has been hit with shots that pretty much everyone would have been dropped by. Wands shots were flush, Alexanders were bombs and we know Thiago has finishing power especially in the clinch range they were in.
jardine is a tough guy, beats alot of top guys loses when he shouldnt. He is training hard for this fight and if he can keep Bader standing I think his unorthodox striking can bother Bader as long as he avoids Baders bombs
Agree Sunshine
Silva’s striking is leaps and bounds better than Baders as far as accuracy but you bring up a good question how good is JArdines striking defence and will Bader be able to connect?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
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