UFC Quick Quote: Everyone knows Chael Sonnen is the toughest guy in the room
by James Kimball on Feb 11, 2010 9:03 AM EST
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The media is always trying to determine and dictate who's the best guy in the world. In reality, we know who the real best guys in the world are because the community is so small. I'll go into a workout with four, five, six, eight UFC guys, and at the end of the workout we all know who the toughest guy is. It's the guys in the back, the guys in the locker room that truly know who's who, regardless of what the media says. A lot of times it's not the same guy.... Let's use the heavyweight division for example, the best fighter in the heavyweight division right now is a guy named Cain Velasquez. I don't think the media knows that, in fact I know they don't. But the guys in the back do. The same thing goes with us (the middleweight division). The guys in the back know who the tough guy is. If me and Anderson both walk in the back, believe me there's gonna be lot more of ‘Hey Mr. Sonnen' than ‘Hey Mr. Silva.' They know who's who, and everybody is gonna know who's who before the end of 2010.
-- Toast of the MMA town, number one middleweight contender Chael Sonnen, appeared on Pro MMA Radio this past Monday following his career defining victory over Nate Marquardt at UFC 109. And wouldn't you know it, the guy provided us with yet another great sound byte! This time, he tries to get the point across that the media, and everybody who isn't a fighter for that matter, has it all wrong when to comes to determining the sport's best fighters. We should be asking the fighters themselves. Of course we should, it's not like they would have a bias opinion or anything. Mr. Sonnen also shares some inside information with us regarding the UFC's heavyweight division. Apparently, everyone "in the back" knows that Cain Velasquez is the best guy out there. But you probably knew that already, right? Is Sonnen on the verge of completely losing his mind, or is he actually on to something and the rest of us just don't know it yet? Sound off, Maniacs.
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I don’t like sonnen and think he is full of shit really, but I gotta admit he is learning how to hype a fight. Am actually looking forward to seeing him go against Anderson ( hopefully vitor )
by eagzy on Feb 11, 2010 3:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Haha
Sonnen is very intelligent and uses his cockiness in a degree Ortiz could never grip. This guy is good for the sport, as much as we don’t enjoy saying it, The UFC in many ways is wrestling. This guy is becoming the most hated and hes one of the best going. He should fight one more to guy before Silva IMO i’d say the winner of Bisping/Silva
Can't wait to see what he comes up with next.
This guy is crackin me up. I can’t wait till he starts in on how Dana is full of Sh*t.
"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie
Don't like him at all
I can see him beating Vitor with his lay and pray cause we all know from the Couture fights that Vitor’s BJJ off his back is not overly dangerous, but I try to be objective and really look at the match up and I just can’t see him beating Silva.
What Chael is saying here is who'd win a wrestling competition
ThePunisher, you are right the UFC in many ways is wrestling, wrongfully so. The people out there who knows a shit or two about fighting and real MMA knows that the way they overscore takedown’s is just ridiculous, if the UFC was a brazilian organization where BJJ and muay thai is popular or a japanese or whatever the ruling would be completely different and let me say rightfully so they look at the big picture on who’s doing the best work not who’s in positional favor and who “should” have the advantage.
I never quite got the thing where Mike used to say oh if he can get a takedown here he should get the win just completely based on 1 takedown is really what he means too.
come on maaayn.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to Goldberg
that’s like taking loan advice from a chimp
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
i wouldn't either
the honest truth is that he’s right and that that is exactly how the retarded judges are sitting ringside and scoring it.
come on maaayn.
the guy on top is winning unless the guy on the bottom submits him.
it is as simple as that
I can't think of one right now,
maybe I’m being stupid, but can you suggest any fights where somebody spent a long time in top position getting dominated by someone underneath them and they won the fight?
I remember Bas dominating Randleman from the bottom, but Bas won that fight.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
when u are on top gravity works in your favor and that is a very big factor. thats why the guy on top is winning.
oooooh
I thought you were agreeing with Roberto, like you meant that’s all the judges see. I understand and agree
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I can't remember the fight off hand....
but there was a WEC fight were the guy on the bottom was much more active off his back, throwing up subs and strike from the bottom, but lost the fight. It doesnt usually happen and they are far and few in between, but it has happened here and there. The other big thng is that to many guys get to sit in someones guard for 2 or 3 minutes before they get stood up and have no idea how or choose not to transition, won’t go for a fight ending sub, or have zero ability to tko the fight and get a win. The yellow/red card could be of great use in the the 10 point must.
Chael is crazy if he thinks Cain is the best HW. His he conceeding to the fact that Cain is better then Brock? If Cain loses to Nog, is he going to retract? Uggh I can deal with some hype but I hate these wrestling style antics. Talk Talk Talk lets just keep getting all the media attention possible whether it is relevant or insane!
There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman".
Sanchez vs. Guida
The 2nd and 3rd rounds of that fight,;Sanchez was on the bottom doing serious damage with elbows. A
And in the Sanchez vs Fitch fight Sanchez lost a close split decision while working well off his back.
yer but Sanchez won against Guida
point I was trying to make was that I don’t think it’s as huge a problem as RoB was saying.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
it is a huge problem
Sanchez fucking lost a round in that fight 29-28 it was really on it’s way of becoming the worst decision ever when it should have been more like 30-26.
Sanchez was way more active then Fitch in all rounds, and i’ve seen a TON of fights where a couple takedowns/control have been the difference, like how do you suggest Aaron Simpson or other fighters winning like Couture over Vera that’s just bullshit and what he did had nothing to do with fighting he just held him up against the fence not even tiring him out or anything.
come on maaayn.
He's just ridin' this tidal wave of confidence is what it is.
He better not be starstruck by Andy once they get in the ring. He was with Babalu, and look how it ended. Submission!
But I guess he always ends up gettin’ submitted, LOL
Still, I like his chances against Silva. Though I’m not sayin’ Silva will lose. Far from it…
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 11, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I actually think he has a good point here
We’ve seen guys back out of fights before, or look like they lost before the fight even started. Tito vs Liddell I for example…Tito had trained with Chuck prior and was looking to dodge that fight because he knew that chuck was tougher then he was. Now If I remember correctly, didn’t Silva’s trainer say that Sonnen should fight someone else first. That’s kind of strange…the best pound for pound fighter in the world who hasn’t seen a challenge in years is backing down from a potential fight. It just makes me think that maybe the Silva camp is a little intimidated by this guy.
Just Do It
-Nike
it's a business ja434650
If they wanted to just fight guys left and right they’d do it for free.
You’re right about Tito but the real truth is he was renegotiating his contract and wanted to wait until he got the right money to fight Chuck as he was the most popular fighter and the poster boy back then as the champ.
come on maaayn.
You contradict yourself
You say it’s a business, but he doesn’t get a fight purse by not fighting. He doesn’t get paid while waiting for Chael to fight other guys. “If they wanted to fight guys left and right they’d do it for free.” That opposed the point you seem to try to make. If he feels he would win too easily, he would earn money winning too easily. If he thinks he’s too superior, there should be less a chance of AS coming off the fight banged up and could fight again much quicker. Ja4…. makes an excellent point.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Feb 11, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I am starting to round the corner with Chael
Not really a fan of his until this past weekend but I thought his post fight interview was pretty funny. Basically explaining that fighting Nate was a horrible experience but hey thats what happens when you want to be on the main card late at night
you have to fight tough guys. He then said if you want to be a big deal without fighting tough guys there are promoters out there who make it happen and will put you on showtime.
He is turning into a little Dana puppet and actually I think it’s great.
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
me too a little bit
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
he said that just before pulling his red underpants over his blue suit and flying off into the sunset..
don't want to be an American idiot - green day
i bet none of you have girl/boyfriends cos your on here all day - Ronald Regan
by freedomthrtyfve on Feb 11, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
wow this cat is unbelievable
He can’t believe this shit?
Lol, I think he’s the kinda guy that’s always saying how good he is in form of a question to ppl “in the back”.
You know that guy that brags about himself then follows each selfish comment about himself with a rhetorical “eh?” and sometimes a nudge if you don’t oblige with a “Oh for sure man, you’re the best”.
And Cain? Lol what?
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 11, 2010 9:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he def see's himself from a 3rd person...
There is a lot of talk about Cain. Everytime someone is on InsideMMA’s panel and they are asked about the next big thing Cain Velasquez is the most popular answer from athletes. At least that’s the impression I have.
I never thought I would be saying this… but i am looking forward to Chaels next fight.
I bet against both Paulo Thiago and Mark Coleman:
- THiago impressed the sh1t out of me.
- Coleman you owe me $20 bucks.
It could be true, given the fact that he's a "cardio-legend" over at AKA.
And for me, cardio is everything in the fight game!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 11, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I just can't see it
As much as Cain has Cardio for days, so does Saun Sherk and look where that has got him. There is no substitute for talent IMO.
An average fighter can make himself a good fighter with cardio but never great.
I like Chael but he is talking out of his ass saying Cain is top boy at H/W, for a number of reasons.
Learn like you'll live forever, live like you'll die tomorrow.
ha ha well done KG12
Unfortunately its gonna take more then Chael and you saying it to make me a believer…
No offense but Chael isn’t coming off as the most reliable source.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 11, 2010 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
All i can figure is that he’s doing his best to pick a fight with Anderson….he can’t possibly believe all the stuff he’s saying. It’s gotta be hype to close the deal….I’ve been pretty critical of Sonnen, and i was rooting for Nate to kick his ass hard, but i’d be lying to say i wasn’t impressed with his performance this past Saturday…
i don't know what to think
before the nate fight i couldn’t stand him or anything he had to say but he totally backed it up so i give him credit where its due. im very interested in seeing how he handles himself with anderson tho, id really change my mind if it turns into a cake walk for him with all the talk.
when he talks about a workout, if he referring to lifting weights or sparring and what not as well? if he’s talking about 5-6 of them just lifting weights i dont think that has any factor really on fighting. just because you out lift someone doesnt make you tougher, stronger sure, but theres a huge difference between tough/strong imo. im neither really lol, but ive handled myself against “stronger” guys in some cases much easier then guys with less strength
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
Chael and Tito
Chael backed up his talk with a convincing win over Marquardt, and he spoke honestly about the war with Marquardt, almost being submitted and gettin’ hit with that knee. He was glad it’s over. tito would only talk shit and not give his opponent any credit cuz his ego is bigger than his head.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
tito would come up with excuses for why he didn't finish the fight
or why he didn’t look his best.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
if Tito fought guys like Marquardt he’d be able to back his shit up too, the guy had no takedown defense whatsoever.
come on maaayn.
how did i know i'd catch your attention? you're the last tito fan around, die already, lol.
Nate would murder Tito
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
I think in another interview he said he spars a lot.
Like he commented on how other guys say they are in the gym all the time, and he said if your in the gym like I am, your body doesnt allow it to be there for 8 hours a day for 12 weeks.
I afree with Chael
Cain Velasquez is the best HW in the division and after his fight against Nog everybody will know that!
even with a win over Nog
there’s a hw by the name of Brock Lesnar out there who I think might have that #1 tag at the moment and imo. Cain won’t get passed Borck or even Nog for that matter.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
He may get past Nog...But not the huge roadblock named Brock...
Just like on that street where it says “construction ongoing” and you have to take a detour. That construction site is Brock!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 11, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
thats exactly riiight
I think Mir, Brock, and Nog would beat Cain. And I wouldn’t stress about the possibility of being wrong at all. If I was wrong after the fight, then…meah.
Won’t happen though :)
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 11, 2010 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cain will be the UFC HW Champ in due time
i got him and JDS pegged for the title.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
No way Cain beats Brock imo.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Yeah. Dos Santos has a better chance of knocking Brock's lights out than Cain outwresling Lesnar.
Not gonna happen…
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 11, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
THX for changing ur tune and agreeing so fast Pamirec
That was nice of you.
Weird, but nice.
:D
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 11, 2010 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i kno it just looks better the way i did it.
Makes you look like you’re very easy to sway opinion wise.
Ps cain isn’t anything special and can’t compete with the top 5 heavies
Nog
Brock
Jds
Mir
Carwin
Would/will beat him.
:D
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 11, 2010 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mir, Brock, Carwin and JDS would all kill velasquez
If Nog wont get it done.
Sonnen is full of shit.
by Lester The Pimp on Feb 11, 2010 9:51 AM EST reply actions
not sure too much ab out mir
but brock,nog and maybe JDS would. I wanna see JDS take down defense first.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
Well, currently, Sonnen is "The Shit"!
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of them are even dumber than that.
- P-Dub
by The Negation on Feb 11, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure what's more comical...
Chael saying he’s the best MW or him saying that Cain is the best HW.
Wow.
James Kimball
Leave the smart @$$ post to us. I like Mania better as an MMA news blog not a snarky opinion blog.
Do not. I repeat, do not, go to mma-core.com. I made the mistake of watching a couple UFC 108 bouts on there and I am still trying to get all the viruses of my computer. Ridiculous! You've been warned.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 11, 2010 10:25 AM EST reply actions
did i miss something?
I thought this was their site that they built? Can’t they be a lil cocky and have fun with us since they’re the ones providing us with the topics of discussion? He didn’t say the guy sucks as a fighter.
War Kimball Slice! Lol
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 11, 2010 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Danny
James Kimball is an employee. It is not his site. Yes he can be a little cocky and have fun. He can talk crap and take sides. But I can also call him out on it and let him know I don’t like it. At least he has an avatar of the Techno Viking, so his stock has gone up a little in my book.
Do not. I repeat, do not, go to mma-core.com. I made the mistake of watching a couple UFC 108 bouts on there and I am still trying to get all the viruses of my computer. Ridiculous! You've been warned.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 11, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Here we go
The chael sonnen bandwagon is accepting passengers, get on while he is popular! Careful when the wheels come off though, it will be hard to run after and catch the renewed Anderson silva train.
by JayWQ on Feb 11, 2010 10:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He's got my vote.
Oh wait, I have to move to Oregon first then he’s got my vote…..
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Feb 11, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
He might be right about being the toughest....
As well as Cain but that doesn’t make him the best fighter. Bonanr is a tough mouther f^cker too if you understand what I’m getting at.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Since Ander-Soares downplay the legitimacy of anyone brought to fight them….i’m Sonnen’s talk is making me a bit excited about the fight. Anderson through his manager and their downplaying everyone, fake retirement talk, I just tune out anything about Anderson. he could have been a HUGE star, I’m talking on the likes of GSP, but as gifted a fighter as he is…..he wasn’t smart enough to work the publicity…and now, other than the moment he’s in the cage and between the fight ends….i could care less. what a waste.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions
I think it's hilarious that u guys say Cain can compete with best!
Yet 50 year old Randy coture put up a hell of a fight against Brock! Cain is a beast wud absolutely destroy Randy ! His wins over rothwell & Kongo were legit & both have never been dominated like that b4! A win over big nog wud make him more legit & if have 2 be blind or retarted not to see that! & to say he can’t even compete with the HW’s in the ufc is even more ridiculous !
Randy didn't last a round with Brock?
Brock would destroy kongo and rothwell too as would many infact Mir destroyed Kongo and Kongo had Cain rocked? Anyway Cain does have a decent chance becuase he has abilities and most importantly heart. Win or lose this fight is going to be a great learning lesson for Cain. I like his attitude and style that he fights with I just think NOG is looking more well rounded than he has for many years and the experience factor will be to big of an advantage. Can’t wait for the fight though and I wouldn’t be shocked to see Cain win either.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Didn't Brock & Randy go to the 2nd o 3rd?
He had Brock on his back at 1 point & landed decent shots that shook Brock & randys a 205er! I think Cain can compete with anybody & I think it’s guna be 1 of the best ufc’s we have seen in a long time!
2nd
I’m gettin nervous about Wand buddy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Feb 11, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Sonnen tough guy?
Is Sonnen a tough guy? I’ve always thought so. He’s a hard nosed, intelligent, hard working grinder. If he gets you on your back, and you can’t get out, he’ll beat you up and wear you out. But now as the number one contender, he’ll face his toughest challenges yet. Whether it’s Anderson or Vitor. No disrespect to Marquardt or anyone else before him, but Chael has never fought anyone like Silva or Belfort.
He’s always said what’s on his mind, and says it like it is. But as of late, he’s been getting very “cocky”. He needs to tone the talking down, and concentrate more on his training. So far he’s been able to back his shit up. But if or when he loses to Silva or Belfort, he’s just going to look like a chump. Much like Nate did after their fight. As Sun Tzu says “don’t think of winning or losing, just think of fighting, and all will unravel as it should”. Basically, STFU and let your fists, knees, elbows, feet speak for you in the cage.
He's right.
There is legitmacy in what he is saying. I don’t think Lesnar is near the best HW on the UFC’s roster and we’ve all been led to believe he is..Anderson Silva is far from the best MW on the roster as well. Anderson made a name off of beating up nobody’s in a weak UFC division for the past three years. The only true MW he beat was Hendo, but that wasn’t lop sided at all.
Bullybeater..please. If you voted for Obama you are not only a moron but you deserve to be severly beaten for the harm you’ve done to this country.
Greasy St.Pierre is a cheater.
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