UFC Quick Quote: Josh Koscheck plans to rearrange Paul Daley's already messed up teeth on May 8
by MMAmania.com on Feb 10, 2010 9:29 PM EST
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"Paul Daley is talking a lot. Paul is going to get his mouth shut. I've been in this game for a long time and yeah I talk a lot of trash but guess what, I back it up at the end of the day. If Paul Daley's going to talk, is he going to come into the cage on May 8 and back it up? I can guarantee I am.... I plan on rearranging them teeth in his mouth. He already has those braces and those messed up teeth. So maybe we'll put some railroad spikes in there.... Don't be afraid to talk a little bit to entice me to stand. Because I have good standup and I have a good chin. I have a lot of power. and if I put my right hand on your chin, you're going to go to sleep."
-- Josh Koscheck finally gets in the trash talk mode, telling CageWriter.com that he plans to stop his confident and outspoken British adversary, Paul Daley, when the welterweights collide at UFC 113 from The Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Guess "Kos" wasn't too pleased being branded a Fraggle, indicating that the American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) standout resembles a 1980s-era Jim Henson character. "Semtex," however, has demonstrated incredible knockout power in his two performances inside the Octagon, putting Dustin Hazelett down for an early nap at UFC 108 and temporarily derailing the title aspirations of Martin Kampmann with a flurry of punches before that. Will Koscheck, a far superior wrestler, fall into the mental trap of standing with the British brawler or does he really have the chops to stand and bang with the hard-hitting, and fast rising, 170-pound star?
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Gives Fraggles a bad name.
Good chin? I think Paulo Thiago might have something to say about that. And before you Koscheck nut-huggers come out of the woodwork, his eyes were rolled back and his hand were wide. Thiago could have done to him what Henderson did to Bisping, but he stopped. Let’s just hope there’s no fake eye pokes in this fight. If Daley wins, we won’t have to worry about the AKA guys fighting each other, since two will be out of title contention. Maybe Kos can start calling out Matt Hughes again.
by FragglesHateKos on Feb 11, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Calling out Koscheck nut-huggers tells me you haven’t been on this site very long, or ever. To my knowledge, no such creature exists.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
they were out yesterday in the Tito thread....including some regulars I will stop short of mentioning
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Fraggle, Kos was not out to the extent that Bisping was out
against Hendo. No way. Bisping was sleeping.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Feb 11, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I was one of the guys Mac is talking about.
And MMA CHAMP is right. I hate Kos, but hate Tito more.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Semtex will finally get exposed.
I hate Kos as much as the last guy, but that doesn’t change the fact that he will eventually take Daley down and that will be the end of the Semtex hype train. He has NO ground game!!! If Shields and Nick Thompson could do it, why the hell can’t the UFC’s superior WWs do it?
"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie
agreed
but Shields BJJ is better than most UFC WW’s, including Kos.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Shields is a 1 dimensional grappler
and Hendo is going to mop the floor with him, BAD.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more.
Hendo will completely tool shields. Its going to be hilarious.
"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie
Hendo should murder him, but
im rooting for the underdog here. I just don’t like how Hendo gets all these title shots. Back to back title shots entering the UFC, then he runs off to SF cuz he wanted another title shot.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
There's 5 MW at SF.
What were they supposed to do with Hendo? Of course he deserves a title shot right away.
OD is incredibly handsome, coureagous and self sacrificing in his endeavour to educate me on MMA and evolve my primitive understanding of the sport; I salute you sir.
Well said 2 Words, at least you give Shields credit
Very few Maniacs have a good word to say about Jake all because he never finished a MW in his last fight.
Good point on Hendo as well, I’d love it if Jake won that fight.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
agreed.
but Kos just needs to put him on his back. Daley won’t get up. Kos could LNP all day. I’m taking Kos by TKO from GNP.
"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie
He won't LnP, Kos has some viscious GnP.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Kos will be going to sleep for the first time in his career!
I expect Daley to land the extra credit shot just like henderson did at 100.
I agree PLEASE GOD MAKE IT SO THAT KOS STANDS WITH DALEY!!!!
if he does what he is “threatening” to do and stands with Daley (Muay Thai world champion 18 of his 23 pro wins via (T)KO), then he will get KTFO. No question of that in my mind.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 4:12 AM EST up reply actions
Well Semtex better start practicin' his TDD in this bout 'coz once Kos decides to switch game plans, it's LNP/GNP time!
But still, I’m looking for that one-punch that will be the “British Connection”…
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Feb 11, 2010 6:54 AM EST up reply actions
If Kos stands with Semtex then he's even dumber than I thought
I’m going with a Daley KO all the way, Kos may have great wrestling but he rarely uses it and Paul has better grappling than Crumble Johnson. If Kos tries to strike early on thinking that he can fall back on his wrestling then Daley’s going to get his third high profile KO in a row, Semtex is not someone that you stand with no matter how good you think that your striking is especially when you’re Kos and your only good punch is a telegraphed overhand right. Kos may have KO’d Yoshida and Twigg but he’s been found out against top strikers before and will do so again if he tries to stand with Semtex, whilst I’m confident that Daley’s TDD will be good enough to keep this on the feet long enough to land one of his vicious hooks and KO Kos. 2010 will be the year of Team Rough House.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
canadian hockey refs can suck my cock.
Montreal Canadiens are focking losers and cheaters, hope Caps kill the motherfockers.
And that Daley lays Kos out and stomps him on his face and crushes his jaw like he should.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
RoB
Tito sucks ballz… that is all
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
J/k Rob..
Cept about the Tito sucking ballz part..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
U know I just love giving you shit =P
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Im waiting for tito to win so i can throw some back.
that’s going to be sweet.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Not against Chuck my friend.. that is such a bad fight for him
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
it is.
isn’t that the point of Dana allowing it to happen, chuck wins and he makes money.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Well even if Tito won he'd make money...
I think it’s tailor made for Chuck and to be honest Tito’s done so much for the sport he does deserve to go out on a quality win; I just don’t see how Tito will do it; vs Chuck who isn’t nearly what he was even 2 years ago; but can still land a fight ending punch at any time. Tito just doesn’t have the ability to end a fight instantly like Chuck or Wand. Those two imo have a better shot of getting a little glory before their time is up just cause of the styles.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
mhm, Tito can only win against guys he can take down and bust up from there, I hope Tito knows this and just wants to make more money on big fights like this upcoming fight against Chucky cause he would prolly be better off not taking it and demanding a rematch vs Forrest.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
why? so he can lose for the 3rd time!?
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
against who?
hope you’re not meaning Forrest, he’s busted him up twice and clearly won first time around.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Busting up Forrest is not that impressive
If I cut one and Forrest is in the room, he would begin to bleed like a virgin on prom night!
agreed.
you never know though the UFC can make any win be impressive, look no further than Randy’s win over Mark Coleman.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Forrest beat Tito both times
Tito got a lucky decision the first time. The 2nd fight wasn’t even close.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
I woulda scored the 2nd fight 30-26
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
there isnt ANYTHING I want to see more then Kos to dare and stand n bang with my young buck SEMTEX!!!!
PLEASE Kos, do it! Please! I beg of you. I swear to you all that if Kos stands up with Semtex, he will get utterly DESTROYED! No doubt about it!…keep wingin that wild overhand right Kos, watch ya ass get lit up, like this bubbler I’m abouts to blaze!
Only time I ever like Kos or would root for Kos is if he fought Tito
He's not going too...
And Semtex isn’t exactly a surgeon either John; look at his last two fights, he’s wild too; lots of speed and power but that’s not technique you’re watching. The guy’s an animal no doubt, but Kos is the better fighter all around; besides, even if Daley wins who really wants to see him take on GSP? A one dimensional striker is going to get owned by Georges, it’s not even worth his time.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Semtex is a little wild, but he still has sweet technique. His knees and left hook are beautifully thrown strikes.
I agree though, I think Kos will take this to the mat. His ego is huge, but he must know deep down that he can’t bang with Semtex. I’m hoping for a Daley KO, but he’ll be in tough againt Kos-level wrestling.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 10, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Daley and Alves are the two best strikers at WW, Alves with the better kicks and Daley with better hands.
the way he’s turning into all of his punches is beautiful to watch especially in an MMA league where most guys have very weak striking games, he doesn’t need to hold back against guys he has no respect for.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
Dude... off topic but go to youtube and check this highlight out
Igor was such a bad ass striker…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A8Eg0hLlLc
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
NO SEMTEX is winning this fight hands down! He isnt wild at all. He is a very technivcal bad ass...sure he might not be a techincal boxer but his muy tai is crisp....I promise you all that Kos is getting Battered worse then what alves did to him...
not only can semtexknock kos the fuck out, but nhe will stuff every last one of his takedowns. you all wait n see. Please everyone bet their money on Kos! do me the favor!
Agreed completely John
War Semtex, Britain’s best MMAst.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
kos isn’t that stupid, but i too hope he is. i don’t think he would last a round standing with semtex. i think kos lays on him for 3 round or at least attempts to. he wants NO part of semtex standing, he’s seen what happened to martin, a much better stand up fighter them himself.
I hope Semtex wins this, I’d much rather see him get closer to a title shot. He has a better chance at beating GSP imo. because I think it’ll take a great striker to catch GSP and put him down.
Alves and Daley would be a crazy fight! Two of the best strikers…fotn forusre!
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
John, Kos will be able to take Semtex down when he really wants to if he mixes up his striking and shots.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
BUT, hopefully he'll get KO'd before he shoots!
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
no doubt
they robbed Ovi and it was BS.
no goal but no penalty? Obviously wasn’t that bad then assholes
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 10, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
this was for Roberrto but lost in translation
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 10, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
no, im here now.
weird shit going on, funny thing they’re leading the 3rd period and that the score should be 5-5 now.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
goal called on the ice and no video review
one thing i hate is when refs take over the show, unfortunately MMA is a sport where there’s even more in the hands of the judges and refs.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
ya man looks like the 14 game win streak is over
fuck sakes! Ovi deserved that goal and we deserved an OT and possible shootout but 59 seconds left? a!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
FUCCCCCCCCKKK YEEEEEAAAH!!!
Brooks Laich ! Brooksie is awesome.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
HAHAHAH WTF? LOVE YOU OVI!!! IM SHITTIN MYSELF HERE
OT OT OT OT HAHAHA MAN HE RULES!!! AND I’VE BEEN DRINKIN SORRY111 FUCK YA
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
best ever c'mon 15 games!!!
that ties 2nd biggest streak ever!!!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm 3 24 oz corona's and 2 24 oz heineken's into my night as well lol
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Keep it down you rowdy bastards! I’m trying to sleep here!
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 10, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
OOOOH, well it was a good run.
Man that hurt to see a team like Montreal end the win streak! I knew it’d be tough up in Canada. I hope Ovi scores atleast 5 against Canada in the olympics now, especially when my boi Ryan Getzlaf is injured.
Im going to smash my screen and never buy a new one if Ducks doesn’t crush the Edmonton now.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
I hope Ovi scores atleast 5 against Canada in the olympics now, especially when my boi Ryan Getzlaf is injured.
Ummmmmmmm,
FUCK OFF!!!
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
hehehe, don’t tell you don’t like Ovi, the refs better be fair to him.
Matteo Serra is the mayn! Forza Italia.
I like him when he isn’t lined up across the ice from my Canucks or my country. The gold belongs to the great white north. Book it, motherfucker.
;-)
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 10, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and RoB… you know that Perry and Niedermayer are also on Team Canada, right?
WAR Canada!
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
blah i started Hobo the Clown as a nickname for him
Though I have no proof other than my word now. Which won’t hold up. Lol oh well least I know.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Feb 10, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Magic Fist
i don’t know if koscheck’s right hand on my chin would send me to sleep, but every time he opens his mouth and words start to come out, that tends to do the job
I like Kos as of late
He’s looked excellent except for the hiccup against Thiago; and that fight needs avenging. Other than that the #2 WW in the division has to be either Kos or Thiago Alves right now; and it’s been longer since Kos fought Georges than since Thiago so lets get that one going if Kos can put Daley away.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Another thing I've noticed about Kos
He’s like Sonnen in that he’s fearless; not afraid of anyone period. No hesitation, no brain freeze, the guy just gets after it he doesn’t care who it is. You saw that in the AJ fight and the Alves fight cause most people wouldn’t be standing there trying to trade with Rumble or Thiago. He’s got the mind set and the athletic ability to do some dmg and he’s become well rounded enough imo to give Georges a run for his money.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like Kos more and more
He’s starting to grow on me……hope he wins so he gets a chance to f*ck up Tito’s ugly mug….in a fight that will never happen.
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Feb 10, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
I can only dream...
Of watching Tito stomped into the ground by a WW. That would be so satisfying…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I like Kos too, but he's not #2
I don’t understand the stupid fans who boo him. He started growing on me after his loss to GSP.
I don’t think he’s number 2, but I do think he’s the best fit to take on GSP. Koscheck lost to PT and Alves, and beat Yoshida, Trigg, and Rumble in his last 5. Those wins dont earn you a title shot.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
His loss to thiago was a bump in the road...
That would not happen again; I don’t care what Paulo did to Swick that KO over vs Kos would NOT happen again; Koscheck is the most well rounded fighter in the division next to GSP and wins over Trigg, Rumble and Daley will earn him the title shot. Hell; how does Dan Hardy get a title shot?? Cause they don’t have anyone else to fight GSP at 170 lbs besides rematch’s.. Kos is the best fighter at 170 lbs next to GSP; he’s the most improved fighter like GSP everytime you see him his skills improve. At this point there’s no reason for a Paulo vs Kos rematch cause they’re both potential contenders.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
PT's not gettin' enough respect
I’m not takin’ anythin away from Kos, he’s a great fighter, and very well-rounded, but I’d like to see him face one more guy if he gets by Daley. Koscheck is talented, but he needs another win over a good fighter – i mean c’mon, Trigg sucks. And I don’t care to see a rematch with PT, he lost that fight, so it’s over. Maybe he should fight Hardy, after Hardy loses to GSP.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
I give him his props but..
I don’t think he needs to rematch Kos atm; if Kos wins against Daley I guarantee he’s up for a shot at GSP, then we’re out of Contenders. At least if they keep Paulo on the back burner for a little while they got someone new to take a shot at GSP.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
oh god I hope Koscheck stands with Daley
but he won’t. well, he will for a little bit then will realize he has no chance and will shoot like his life depended on it. or run since that’s what those AKA guys love to do.
koscheck will NEVER be able to come close to giving Georges a run for his money.
If you can go toe to toe with Rumble at 170 you can toe to toe with anybody
That’s the biggest dude aside from Saunders at 170 lbs and Kos had no fear of striking with him and did very well. He’s not afraid of Daley and there’s no reason why he should be.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand why everybody is making that comparison
Rumble and Daley are NOTHING ALIKE They are both black WWs who fight standing up, that’s where the similarities end.
height, weight distribution, experience, skill level, stand up style, skill level on the ground…
everything is different!!!!!!
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 4:31 AM EST up reply actions
We're making the comparison because
Even with a lack of skills, Rumble’s size/reach/power tends to make up for quite a bit of that, and no one can debate he has 1 punch KO power. He didn’t land on Kos, he didn’t KO Kos; believe it or not, Kos is not a heap of dry leaves in the wind that Daley is going to walk in and blow on and have him hit the canvas. AND Even if he does win; who cares? You really want to see GSP fight Daley?? Give me a damn break..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
Georges would murder Daley worse than he's going to slaughter Dan Hardy
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention, 3 rds with Thiago Alves
Entirely stand up; Kos couldn’t get that one to the ground; no he’s not afraid of Daley at all.. And at the end of the day, I don’t care to see Daley matched up with Georges who will completely dominate him; I’d rather see him fight Alves cause that right there has fireworks written all over it.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
lol whata joker
if he cums in and wrestles he has a chance? cums to bang lol hi hea is bangn the floor! semtex is yet to win a few ppl over after this maybe he will and then kos can go beat titos ass
I like Semtex but c'mon..
how is he more dangerous than Thiago Alves or Anthony Johnson in the striking department? I don’t see how people think he’s going to KO Kos when Kos went toe to toe with both those guys..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Alves is a better technician, but Daley punches harder. He can and will Paulo Thiago Koscheck if Kos exchanges with him. Daley also has a granite chin.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Feb 10, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know but..
I’d like to see Daley vs Alves so I’m rooting for Kos. I think GSP completely slaughters Daley where as Kos can give him a fight on the ground and standing up. No one in the UFC has taken Daley to the ground yet; that’s where he’s losing this fight; and he definatley can’t compete with GSP.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 10, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
OD... you are wrong about Daley
I’m going to say that Daley has the best hands in the division, in a boxing match I’d pick him over any other UFC WW. no question.
If you think Rumble and Daley are the same thing then you need a wake up call!!!!
Rumble has only been fighting pro since 2006 he’s fought 11 times at a pro level 3 of which he has lost, he is too big for WW, has heavy striking and doesn’t really have any other credentials of which to speak. All in all, in a division like the UFC WW Rumble is a nobody, and I doubt he’ll achieve anything for atleast a couple of years aside from knocking out a few guys that he has a rediculous size advantage over.
Daley on the other hand has been fighting pro for 7 years and has fought as many times as Fedor. He has held the following titles: Cage Rage British and World Champion, FX-3 World champion, King of the Ring, European and World Muay Thai Champion. Trains between the best camp in the UK and arguably the best in Holland. He also has a purple belt in BJJ and if you watch his fight with Jake Shields, then you’ll see how good his subs defence is, as he hangs in their with one of the best pure grapplers in his division for almost 2 full rounds. I doubt Rumble would last 2 seconds grappling with Sheilds.
Also you keep using Alves as an example… I don’t know if you recall but Alves BEAT Kos pretty well. He took it on short notice etc. but he still got beat up on the feet, it’d be close, but I’d still pick Daley over Thiago, he is every bit the striker Alves is if not more.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 5:00 AM EST up reply actions
Beat Kos who took the fight on short notice and couldn't get it to the ground;
so this WRESTLER went toe to toe with Alves for 3 rds and didn’t get put away; Alves being the most technical/viscious striker in the division and Daley is supposed to just walk in and KO Kos? What are you people smoking??
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention...
NO ONE as of yet; not Kampann, not Hazelet has tried to take the fight to the ground I mean even TRIED; we haven’t seen sub defense, or ground game since Shields; and Shields got him down pretty damn easily. Come on… who are you guys trying to kid?? He gets a couple KO’s over 2 guys that are better on the ground than anywhere else that NEVER even tried to take him down. If Kos wants him on the ground that’s where it’s going; and he can definatley survive standing with Daley long enough to get it there.
I guarantee if you back track to the Shields fight and read all the post fight comments Daley is a 1 dimensional striker, who’d get killed in the UFC; now he gets a couple KO’s and OMG he’s got a PURPLE BELT and he’s just so awesome to survive on the ground a WHOLE TWO ROUNDS with Shields; please…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions
What are you trying to say OD?
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
The fans are fickle band wagon jumpers; half the people praising Daley now
probably said he was a 1 dimensional striker after the Shields loss; AND since he’s been in the UFC he’s KO’d a jits guy in Hazelett and a well rounded fighter in Kampman who’s good everywhere (better on the ground) but not really great at anything, and neither guy even TRIED to take him down. It’s not like he came in and KO’d two awesome strikers; he came in and KO’d two guys who played in to his strength.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
your totally disregarding every fight he's had before the UFC?
your making out as though nobody has ever tried to take him down before… 33 pro fights OD. And btw Jake did not take him down easily, he actually has a decent sprawl.
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by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Go look at his MMA record..
Then look at Koschecks record.. tell me who has the better resume. Who’s the biggest name Daley’s beaten ?? Duane Ludwig (doesn’t he fight normally at 155??)? Who on his record of wins is so stellar; so awesome, that makes you think Daley is so great? He got owned by Jake Shields; and Hendo is going to make Jake look like an amatuer when they fight. I’m not hating on the guy; but lets be real here, he’s not the well rounded fighter he needs to be to be an MMA champion/#1 Contender. A Purple belt in BJJ and no wrestling doesn’t cut it; sorry I’m not buying this one.
On a side note, I’d love to see him matched up with AJ, Alves, Lytle, Marcus Davis, Hardy or Condit; I think those have fireworks written all over them and that he’s a very entertaining fighter; just no threat to GSP.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
You judge a fighter by the content of his fights
not by the list of names he’s beaten, because of not being in the UFC he hasn’t had the opportunity yet in his career for many big name fights, that doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of winning them.
I usually like your posts OD but if you’re basing this judgement just around the fact that Daley hasn’t fought many names, then I think you’re making a mistake.
I get the feeling though that even if Daley knocks Kos out from the mount, highly unlikely I know but, even if he wins by flying freaking armbar, it still might not change your mind here.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
if he mounts or subs KOS I will definately change my tune...but there's a better chance of Timmay coming back to the UFC and beating BJ for the LW title
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
a better chance of Zuluzinho fitting into Shinya Aoki's shorts
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
And doing just as you suggest
I will judge by the contents of his fights; now find me one fight that would suggest his ground game is even in the same league with a fighter like Koscheck let alone GSP? What has led you to believe that his purple belt in BJJ puts him in the same category as a well rounded MMA fighter? 5 of his 8 loss’s are by sub; the guys a great striker. I’m not tryin to bash him, but he’s not the future of the division and until he puts together this stellar ground game you’re talking about I’m just not drinking the Daley Kool aide..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
And lets not blow this out of context
I don’t blindly hate on Daley; I like the guy, he’s an exciting, powerful fighter; if he pulls together this great wrestling/jits game to go with his striking it makes the division all the more interesting. But right now, where he is today; he is not a well rounded, top level MMA fighter.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Dude your picking arguments that aren't there
I never said that Daley was the future of the division, I didn’t say he was as well rounded as Kos and I never even mentioned GSP, what I did say was that Daley is better than Rumble, which I believe is true and by no means an un reasonable opinion. I think I might also have said that if Kos stands with Daley then he will get KO’d, again not exactly an outrageous assesment.
when I mentioned his purple belt and sub D I was using it as an example of how he is better than rumble. I never talked abuot a “stellar” ground game. I said that he has good subs defence, which he does… before Sheilds (a Cesar Gracie black belt) the last guy to submit him was Kitaoka… in 06.
Most people are in danger of being subbed by those guys. I’m not saying Daley has the best ground game, but it’s not like he touches the ground and accidentally armbars himself.
“find me one fight that would suggest his ground game is even in the same league with a fighter like Koscheck let alone GSP?”
“What has led you to believe that his purple belt in BJJ puts him in the same category as a well rounded MMA fighter?”
“he’s not the future of the division and until he puts together this stellar ground game you’re talking about”
I didn’t say any of these things, stop putting words in my mouth.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
And take your own advice;
Where did I say Rumble was going to beat down Daley?? I said it would be a great fight that I’d love to see.
Where did I say Kos was going to beat him standing? My entire argument has been based around the fact that he’s up against a more complete MMA fighter.
“He also has a purple belt in BJJ and if you watch his fight with Jake Shields, then you’ll see how good his subs defence is, as he hangs in their with one of the best pure grapplers in his division for almost 2 full rounds.”
“And btw Jake did not take him down easily, he actually has a decent sprawl.”
this is not impressive, why even imply that his ground game is good if that’s not what you meant to say; his great sub defense and his good sprawl allowed him to go 8 mins in a 25 min fight against a 1 dimensional grappler. My only point the entire time has been that he is not a complete fighter; that he is not a well rounded Mixed Martial Artist; if you think Kos will abandon his ground game and trade with Daley and get KO’d that’s fine. You’re entitled to your opinion, I don’t see it happening.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
You've also somehow managed to ignore every complimentary thing I've said about Daley
You think I’m picking arguments that aren’t there; I think you’re only reading the parts of these comments that you care to read.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
in answer to your questions
Don’t be afraid to talk a little bit to entice me to stand. Because I have good standup and I have a good chin. I have a lot of power. and if I put my right hand on your chin, you’re going to go to sleep.
That’s a quote from Kos, what this whole thread is based around.
how is he more dangerous than Thiago Alves or Anthony Johnson in the striking department? I don’t see how people think he’s going to KO Kos when Kos went toe to toe with both those guys..
that’s a quote from you where you suggest that Daley and Rumble are on the same level and that Kos can hang with Daley on the feet.
I’m reading your posts, I’m just only commenting on the bits that I disagree with. I never said that you hated Daley or accused you of anything like that.
I’m not interested in continuing this OD we’ve just ended up chasing our damn tails.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
O please...
And it’s a crime that I think Daley and Rumble is an even fight? Rumble’s been subbed twice inside of 11 fights; Daley’s been subbed 5 times inside of twice as many. I really can’t say one has a better ground game than the other based on that.
And come on.. Kos saying he has a good chin and hits hard is not the same as saying “I will under no circumstance use my wrestling in this fight.” come on; quit taking quotes for what you want them to mean instead of what they actually mean.
I made my point; Daley isn’t the world beater you make him out to be. Chasing tails my ass.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
you're still doing it... I didn't call Daley a world beater, I said he was better than Rumble
yes chasing tails is exactly what you’re doing, except I think you bit yours off already.
Daley’s been subbed 5 times inside of twice as many
3 times as many, often by a higher quality of grappler, learn to count. No it’s not a crime that you think it’s an even fight, I didn’t say that either. I just disagree. We already argued that point and didn’t agree. End of.
come on; quit taking quotes for what you want them to mean
Kos said he isn’t afraid to stand with Daley, I said, if he does he’ll get knocked out. Again, we’ve already been over that… going in circles, chasing tails…
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I was being sarcastic, i knew what you meant.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Plus I wasn't even using this site when the Shields fight went on so STFU
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
did my quote read..
The FANS are fickle band wagon jumpers; HALF the people praising Daley now probably said he was a 1 dimensional striker after the Shields loss??
or did it read..
SPINNING FAT KICK IS A BAND WAGON JUMPER WHO IS PRAISING DALEY NOW BUT PROBABLY SAID HE WAS A 1 DIMENSIONAL STRIKER AFTER THE SHIELDS LOSS???
Maybe you’re the other half; maybe that comment was directed at TKKPAL and NOT you. Christ…
Keep taking this personally and out of context.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
you were explaining what you were trying to say in response to my comment
of course I looked at it in reference to myself.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
w/e keep cryin
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I don't even know what that is supposed to mean
Here is my response to that statement, and I think it makes more sense than you have today.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I never once said he would walk in and just walk in and KO Kos
I’m saying that you are grossly underestimating Daley, throwing him on the pile with Rumble is not a fair assessment of his skill set.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
I think it is except Rumble has a better skill set with his wrestling
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
you honestly believe that rumble could achieve the following?
Cage Rage British and World Champion, FX-3 World champion, King of the Ring, European and World Muay Thai Champion
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
yes except for the Muay Thai...given the opportunity I think he could have
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
based on what?
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
based on Daley's past performances which I've watched and thinking Rumble could have handled those opponents in the same way
Daley has had some good fights but the level of comp is questionable at best imo
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
If you want to question the competition,
Then Rumble only has one win actually worth mentioning in Yoshida. You could say the same about most fighters records.
I won the signed Matt Serra Tee!!!! whoop whoop
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Feb 11, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
you asked, I answered...its hypothetical anyways
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
There's no one on his record that Rumble wouldn't be the favorite against
Maybe you’d get even money on Shields? I still think Johnson would come in -100 or better on that fight. Daley vs Johnson is a great fight though; I’d love to see it.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
I think KOS is going night night, like these dudes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsGl0R8QcKQ
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Man
Kos is in a bad mood today. Look at the comments he’s made today…hahaha. I like how Kos has turned it around, but he doesn’t need to go picking fights with the whole world.
i said Rumble only wins if he can keep it standing ...
And i feel the same way about this fight. Hopefully he dos cause Semtex will KO Hobo the Clown. If Kos does what he’s best at he’ll take this.
worbanizer
Alvez is number 2
after he puts a beating on fitch, you guys will be back on the bandwagon. he stood up several times with the best wrestler in mma on top of him and is hands down the best striker at ww. i think he’s a lot stronger mentally after that gsp fight. i personally don’t agree with the ‘always need to see new fights’ mentality. the best should fight the best and i can’t wait for the rematch (even though i think gsp will win again). love hardy, i’d like to see him face kos after he loses to gsp. so much talent at ww though, my favorite division
dont talk yourself into a standup war, kos.
do what you’re good at and he sucks at.
he’s gonna make the same mistake as kampmann, who could’ve easily dominated daley if he woulda took it down.
Shields is not a MW...
He’s a WW that had to move up for lack of competition…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
lol @ his bitch ass child bairing hips
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STAND WITH HIM
I said as soon as this fight was announced, if there was was one wrestler at WW that would be stupid enough to stand with Daley it would be Kos! If he tries to prove a point, Daley will left hook his fucking curly head to Halifax, and I dont mean Halifax, Nova Scotia. I mean Halifax, Yorkshire, England!!
Kos will go in and fake to stand with Daley then get the TD and GNP him…If I didn’t have to listen to that Brits big mouth I’d prob b a fan…
by irishlilpete on Feb 11, 2010 7:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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Daley by ko. kos is tough as nails and could win if he takes it down. he also looked pretty good to me standing with Johnson and Alves so he will be able to take more then Hazlett and Kampmann so if he is to stand it would likely be a war
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
WOW
And the brit ends up having the most objective point of view here.. go figure. GJ Tony.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Feb 11, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
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