In advance of his 185-pound title shot, the heavy-handed Vitor Belfort has brought in "Iron" Mike Tyson to help get him ready for Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva. Who's predicting a knockout win for "The Phenom" now?
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Hmmm
interesting, but I wonder how this will help. Either way it couldn’t hurt him to box with Mike.
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i wonder that also
Does Tyson help to deal with elbows kicks and knees
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Dec 26, 2010 6:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did you guys know that at one point Tyson was having serious conversations to sign with PRIDE?
PRIDE wanted to break into the US and they thought he might draw big viewership fighting Fedor and Cro Cop in boxing matches then mma matches. Just a minor tidbit of history there.
But seriously the man knows his mma, he’s been close to it for a long time and though i doubt he can help teach vitor how to deal with andy, Tyson was a very very intelligent fighter early in his career and prior to his imprisonment. He was supposedly always great at analyzing fights and watching tape. So a more prepared vitor is nothing but great so that when anderson dismantles him, everyone will see how truly superior he is.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 26, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not only does he know his mma
He knows his boxing history and striking, seriously. I’ve heard enough people say that that all he used to do was study film of all the greats. Instead of public schoold he went to striking school so he should be able to help with some tactical info.
He knows how to fight
vitor won't beat silva
Silva just won’t get KO’d Vitor will hang tough for awhile but Silva will wear on him and get the KO or submission
Biteeee eemmmm in his ear LOL!
Thats about Vitors only shot at hurting Anderson Silva! Unless Vitor clips him with his very fast hard punches? but I doubt it? Vitor is definetly the guy with the best chance not for his all round skills, but for his one punch ko power. Will see but I would never put money against the best p4p fighter Silva Period.
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so let me get this right
His only chance at hurting silva is biting him in his eard UNLESS vitor only clips him with his very hard fast punces and he has one punch KO power.
Sounds like Vitor has a lot of shots of hurting Anderson
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Dec 26, 2010 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if memory serves me correct
Chael Sonnen put Andy on his ass with a punch. If Sonnen can do it Belfort can.
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by PSYQO78 on Dec 26, 2010 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vitor has the power and speed but the Sonnen knockdown isn't relevant
Sonnen was able to hit Silva because Silva was afraid of his TDs and not respecting his punching at all. Silva won’t have the same mindset against Vitor…in fact, he’ll really only be worried about Vitor’s hands. Vitor has great skills in many areas, but only uses them defensively. At one time Vitor’s JiuJitsu was considered second only to Rickson’s in the world. But for some reason, he’s only ever used it defensively in MMA, so Silva’s only gotta keep out of range of Vitor’s hands and pick him apart with leg kicks and jabs. That’s not what I WANT to happen, but that’s what I think this fight will look like. However, nothing on earth could make me happier than seeing Andy asleep on the mat with my long-time-favorite Vitor standing over him wearing the belt!
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Now I hate Sonnen as much as the next guy
But shonuff, you can’t just call what he did “irrelevant”. Whether or not Andy was defending the takedown, Sonnen clipped him and knocked him down. That’s something impressive especially since Andy has a good chin. I would say it’s very relevant.
Now, if you said it was irrelevant bc Chael was taking Popeye’s cans of spinach… Then I might agree with you.
by judomania on Dec 26, 2010 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you misunderstand
I’m not saying it wasn’t impressive. It impressed the hell out of me! I’m also not saying it’s irrelevant to MMA history or anything. I’m just saying it isn’t relevant to predicting the outcome of Silva-Vitor. I’m saying Sonnen didn’t outstrike Silva by being a better striker, he outstruck him by confusing him with a multi-pronged attack that had Silva paying more attention (rightfully so) to Chael’s Takedown attempts than to his fists. Vitor doesn’t pose the same KIND of threat. Silva won’t be worried about Vitor’s TD, so he’ll be able to focus completely on defending Vitor’s fist and is not likely to get caught by surprise even though Vitor is a far better puncher than Sonnen.
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Ah, excellent clarification.
Absolutely agree. I think Vitor will pose a different threat indeed. But my doubts with Vitor lie in his cardio.
He’s never been known to be a card machine, and his fights at mw have never gone beyond the 2nd round.
But I hope for a great fight. And for those who hate karate in MMA, consider the fact that Vitor just got promoted to blue belt in Shotokan. He’s implementing it in his arsenal, and we saw some if it in his fight with Ace.
by judomania on Dec 26, 2010 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
** lie in his cardio.
Damn phone
by judomania on Dec 26, 2010 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
my doubts lie elsewhere
my biggest doubt with Vitor (who has always been one of my favorites) are always related to his self-confidence. You can usually tell by the look in his eye before the fight even starts whether he’s going to win. When he really believes he’ll win, he’s aggressive, pushes the action, and usually dominates. When he has doubts or isn’t successful early in the fight, his confidence fades and he goes into defense mode. I think Silva may be the only guy in MMA with faster hands than Vitor AND Silva has a longer reach, better timing, pinpoint accuracy, a very solid chin, and a more multi-dimensional striking game that includes kicks and brutal knees. I don’t think it’s a huge difference, but I think it will be enough to frustrate Vitor in the early rounds, rob him of his momentum, and make him lose heart. I hope to God I’m wrong, but I think that’s the most likely scenario here.
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You memory doesn’t serve you correctly. He was staggered but not dropped. But yes, Anderson like every other human can be hurt.
by Danny Glover on Dec 26, 2010 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if tyson was in his prime if he would have considered fighting mma?
Can u imagine how huge that would have been for the sport of mma?
Pride had actually planned to have Tyson fight Fedor back then but it never materialized.
Read an article about it. Can’t remember what site
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
by Ponch-Hoe on Dec 26, 2010 1:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll look for it tomorrow
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
by Ponch-Hoe on Dec 26, 2010 1:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow so suprised that PRIDE wanted to feed him to Fedor.(Sarcasm0
So glad we don't have to see James Toney's fatass anymore.
I think it was supposed to be a boxing rules match. They wanted to have him fight Cro Cop too if I’m not mistaken.
it was either Cro Cop or Fedor
The plann was it to announce it at the K1 match where he stepped into the ring with Sapp but he didnt show for press conference. That’s why Tyson had so many debts he signed a bunch of contracts and just didnt stick to them
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Dec 26, 2010 6:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it was both crocop and fedor in a boxing match
That’s good it didn’t fall through I believe tyson would’ve destroyed both of them
by Samoans.dont.need.horsemeat on Dec 26, 2010 9:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marcuth of Qweenthberry!!!
Every time Tyson has talked about fighting an MMA guy, he always stipulates “Marcuth of Qweenthberry rulth!” He’s never even hinted that he would fight anyone by MMA rules or even K-1 kickboxing rules. It’s hand-only or nothin’ for “Iron” Mike. My guess is that he learned enough about “ground-n-pound” and “submission” in prison to make him afraid of ever having another man on top of him again.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
but then he became an honorary member of DX.
by Nameless on Dec 26, 2010 1:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Tyson seems under control nowadays
Proper meds probably, older, he really appreciates MMA Im sure he would have a lot to contribute to the sport as a p/t boxing trainer for certain high profile fighters, Tysons style techniques should fit well for Belfort.
yeah
the fact that he raped and assaulted people just doesnt matter anymore.
except to the victims of course.
by Lester The Pimp on Dec 26, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions
he didnt rape anyone.
his ex-wife was a fucking lunatic.
i believe Tyson on that one.
and Boom goes the dynamite.
his ex is a lunatic, but she's not the one he raped...it was that beauty pageant chick.
Fighting solves everything.
yup, he only beat his wife.
The beauty-pageant girl’s rape charges were corroborated by the doctor who examined her AND by Tyson’s own chauffer. He was convicted by a unanimous jury “beyond a reasonable doubt” and the conviction was upheld in the court of appeals. The only question is how the hell he only served 3 years of a 10 year sentence and was allowed back in the ring to repeatedly cannibalize Holyfield’s ears, and then a year after that got his license to fight reinstated!!! WTH?!? How the hell do you eat pieces off a guy in the ring and ever get licensed again?
That psychopath should still be locked in a cage if you ask me!
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
at that particular point in time...
…any jury would have convicted Tyson of anything. They never should have let him take the stand. The chauffer said that the gal seemed to be in a state of shock, the doctor saw the woman 24 hours after the fact.
Girlfriend never should have gone up to that hotel room.
by TheIlluminati on Dec 26, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
He still denies raping anyone in his documentary
He basically says, yeah I raped some women, but not Desiree. Boy, talk about your technicalities, eh?
If Tyson had have entered
they would have sent Rickson, not Royce.
It would have been the same outcome, just the Mexican Karate guy that won would have been slightly more athletic looking.
I believe he's talking about Rickson and BJJ
making fun of the ignorance of fans at that time as to what BJJ was.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Tyson looks crazier than usual in that pic
it looks like head is photoshopped on someone elses body
by Get Down or Lay Down on Dec 26, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions
Is Vitor jokin? How does this help?
1. Tyson’s a boxer, not an mma fighter.
2. Tyson’s style works great for Tyson, it doesn’t work with most fighters.
3. Tyson’s not a trainer, he’s a fighter. Much like Rampage.
4. Tyson’s too old.
Fighting solves everything.
to HELP OUT....
not to become his main coach and dictate his game plan. Don’t make stupid comment, I doubt you’re that dumb.
How wouldnt it help and have you ever seen mma/boxing trainers most are old and fat but they have they have the knowledge
You don’t think tyson would give vitor some good tips he was trained by the best. Do you think mma fighters don’t train in boxing? Why do you think mma fighters call in freddie roach? Anyways I don’t see how this would hurt Vitor at all unless Tyson knocks him out during sparring haha
by Samoans.dont.need.horsemeat on Dec 26, 2010 10:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's bringing Tyson in to help deal with AS head movement.
So he can see through all the bobbin and weavin’ and actually hit him.
"A lot of times, you beat a person who beat a person who can beat you. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense." – Joe Rogan
More fuel to the match. Belfort coached by Tyson while Anderson trains with Pedro Rizzo.
www.brasilcombate.com.br
Pedro has KOd 4 UFC Champions
Tyson wouldn’t fight Rizzo under MMA rules for any amount of money. And since this is an MMA fight, I think I’d prefer Rizzo’s advice over Tysons.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
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