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Chael Sonnen steroids suspension upheld, but CSAC reduces term to six months following Dec. 2 appeal

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The California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) today (Dec. 2) upheld the steroids suspension handed down to Chael Sonnen after the former UFC middleweight number one contender was popped for Performance Enhancing Drugs (PED's) in a test administered prior to last August's UFC 117: "Silva vs. Sonnen" title fight at the Oracle Arena in Oakland, California.

Sonnen was originally slapped with a one-year suspension plus a $2,500 fine after his pre-fight drug test, obtained from a urine sample that was processed through the UCLA Olympic drug-testing lab, returned a positive result for steroids on both his first and second samples.

Today the commission reduced that term to six months by a vote of 3-1 but upheld the original monetary fine.

The crux of Sonnen's defense was his Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT), which is not uncommon for athletes his age and with his competitive background; however, the mouthy ex-Realtor failed to follow the proper protocol for clearing his TRT therapy prior to the event.

The suspension cost Sonnen his rematch with UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva, who now faces Vitor Belfort at UFC 126 on Feb. 5 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Star-divide

With both Belfort and Yushin Okami getting first dibs on the 185-pound championship, it's hard to imagine Sonnen walking right back into the title hunt upon his Spring 2011 return. In fact, there's no telling what the UFC has in store for him with their recent roster cuts.

Time will tell.

In the meantime, what is your take on the ruling? Did Sonnen get a raw deal? Or was he lucky to walk away with a six month reduction?

Sound off, Maniacs.

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Sorry Yushin..
Its Silva-Sonnen 2 after the Belfort fight after all..

by sora on Dec 2, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

i wouldn't be surprised if okami gets screwed outta his shot.

"People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

by DetroitDrew1980 on Dec 2, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

count on it!

After the snoozer Okami and Marquardt put on, Dana is thanking his lucky stars that Sonnen is back in time to save him from having to keep that promise. No way in hell Dana passes up the opportunity for a Sonnen/Silva rematch. With the heat of the first fight and Sonnen’s marketing gifts, that shit will sell out faster than a Hanna Montana concert. The only people that want to see Okami/Silva are:
1) Anderson
2) Ed Soares
3) Silva’s nuthugging fanboys
4) Yushin’s bitter ex-girlfriend

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 2, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL "Yushin's bitter ex-girlfriend."

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 5:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Nuthugging fanboys?

I mean this thing is suppose to be a sport. If you want storylines and drama, maybe pro wrestling might be for you. As far as Okami’s title shot – it should not have anything to do with whether he has no shot in hell of winning chance or whether it’s interesting. It should happen because he fought high level opposition to earn the #1 contender spot. If people want this sport to be taken seriously, it needs to work like one. I personally think MMA’s always going to be a fringe bush league type of sidenote to sports in general mainly because no one wants to leave this mentality behind. (You may now go ahead and call me a Yushin or Silva nuthugger or some sort of hater.)

BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 3, 2010 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OK

You Yushin or Silva nuthugger or some sort of hater!!!

No really, I agree. If someone keeps winning, even if it’s boring and they beat everyone they need to in order to get a shot at the title then they should get that shot.

Dosen’t mean I’ll pay for the PPV if it isn’t stacked. Maybe Dana should put it on Spike and call it his “making up to the fans like I promised” card. Put a few interesting up and comers on there too and you’ve covered your bases

by jtc5150 on Dec 3, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

GREAT POST NNR!

This is why the UFC NEEDS a ranking system! But I doubt that will ever happen bc than Dana and company would have a harder time justifying some of their matchmaking. Dana wants this to be a legit sport than he needs to treat it like one!!!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

we're talking about who's first in line

not whether Okami deserves a shot, but whether he or Chael has earned first crack at it. No matter how you look at it, marketability, potential threat, recent accomplishments…any way you stack it, Chael comes out ahead of Yushin. In addition to his marketabiliity and his recent unprecedented success against Silva, Chael recently completely dominated Okami and dominated the guy Okami just barely beat to get a place in line. Everything Yushin has done/can do, Chael has done/can do better. I don’t see a single angle from which you could argue that Yushin should jump ahead of Chael in the pecking order.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

he lost decisively.

Subbed just like all the major fights of his life. He will most likely end up in a triangle again. However with Okami, you know he’s not getting subbed. He might get lamped standing but on the mat from top, he can grind and outwork andy without question if he can it there. The difference between Chael and Okami is that Chael has stronger and more dynamic takedowns, Okami on the other hand is a more complete grappler and will not get subbed. But the point of my previous post is that marketability and potential to win should have nothing to do with whether someone gets a shot. He got his shot. lost so now it’s back of the line and wait for you turn just like every sport. The fact that Chael lost means that he should be anywhere close to first in line. He might second because i don’t buy Vitor as a contender and Marqy lost but not before Okami.

BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 4, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah id like to see how Anderson would approach his 2nd fight next with chael.
given that silva was injures & chael was using steroids, but nevertheless the outcome would have went more or less the same.
chael is the antithesis of silva, and has lay the blue print of beating Anderson.
let vitor fight okami for the title.
if vitor wins over silva, and thats a BIG if.

by sora on Dec 2, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see Cheal winning in a rematch with Silva...

his best chance was the first time around with Silva injured but he couldn’t pull out of the fight cause of the hype and cause of his actions in the fight before. You could tell he was off when Chael caught him with some strikes and even looked low off of his back plus with Chael roided on top of that. Silva at 100% vs a non cheating Chael I can see him only getting finished sooner but this time Silva would embarrass him. Let’s not forget who Silva is and what he’s done haters. He’s embarrassed better fighters than Chael time and time again.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 2, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post!!!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

They should have found him worthy contenders...

or made him go back up to 205 and fight. I think GSP embarrasses the UFC time and time again with his safe/boring way of fighting. That’s not helping the sport grow.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

people aren't booing GSP out of the arena

They are Silva. GSP is winning new fans almost as fast as Silva is losing them.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Cause he's not taunting but they still are board of his fights...

don’t kid yourself by trying to say different. Of Course he’s not gonna get boo’d but Silva makes up for it cause he’s finished more people in his title defenses and take fights in above weight classes which GSP won’t do. He can’t even finish a natural welterweight!

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

WRONG

the guys GSP isn’t finishing, guys like Alves and Hardy, are WAY bigger than GSP. Whereas Silva is bigger than most LHWs, let alone all the MWs he’s fought. Silva gets no extra credit for fighting at 205 when he walks around at 225-230. In fact he gets bitch deductions for fighting most of his career against 185ers instead of manning up to fight Shogun, Rashad, Rampage, etc…all of whom are still smaller than Silva.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually no...

Silva is NOT bigger than most LHW’s… Forrest was WAY bigger but that didn’t stop him from destroying him in a way top LHWs couldn’t even do. EVERY fighter that destroys in an above weight class get all teh extra credit in the world and you’re the only person who I’ve ever heard claim this while far more credible opinions than ours give credit to him so you’re WRONG there. The one thing fighters are divided up by are weight classes so it tells a ton about guys who can do so. Carlos isn’t bigger than GSP and he KO’d Hardy in the 1st so stop sticking up for the guy. Are you also trying to say that GSP can make LW since you claim he’s such a small WW? lol

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess Pac man fighting in above weight classes...

is nothing special either despite what all the experts say huh? LMAO

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know anything about Pacman

or how much he normally weighs, but given that boxing weight classes are rediculously narrow, I wouldn’t give a guy much credit for fighting someone 6 or 7 lbs bigger.

I find it irritating that people talk about Silva doing something amazing by fighting at LHW. Granted, Forrest is an enormous LHW, and is actually bigger than Silva, but no more so than Hardy was over GSP. Silva has fought 2 handpicked LHWs, one can and one big name who was stylistically tailor-made for him. I said that as soon as they announced Silva/Griffin, not just after the fact. Griffin was the one big-name LHW who posed absolutely no threat to Silva because he has exactly the same set of tools but with half the speed and power. It was obvious before the fight that Forrest knew he was being used as fodder.
Anyway, my point is that GSP fights in a very competative division where most of the top contenders are bigger than him, yet he gets called a coward for not “moving up”. Silva on the other hand is the same size as Fedor and is bigger than 3 of the top 4 LHWs yet only fights 2 fights at that weight and is praised for it. People scream for GSP to move up and fight Silva when they should be screaming for Silva to man up and fight Shogun!

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, Silva moves up 20lbs. GSP would only have to move up 15lbs and still can't.

Silva isn’t afraid of a challenge and actually welcomes it whereas GSP wants to play it safe and just get the W.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 5:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I was just looking for one of those on overstock and Amazon, but couldn't find it there.

I got most of my Christmas shopping done there. Being I can’t leave the couch, those sites are a God sent for me this year. I did 100% of my shopping online. The thing that sux now is I have to get up every time something is delivered.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

1) GSP has taken on ALL challengers and has never complained about it, tried to dictate who should get a title shot, or claimed that any of his opponents didn’t deserve the right to fight for his belt. Silva has done all those things nearly every time the UFC has asked him to fight a top-ranked challenger.

2) LHW isn’t “moving up 20 lbs” for Silva, it’s cutting 20 lbs less. He still has a size advantage against most top LHWs.

3) Do you really think GSP couldn’t find two handpicked MWs that he could make quick work of like Silva did at LHW? PLEASE! There are more tough guys at WW than MW. Hardy and Alves are bigger than half the MW guys. The only guys at MW who would present a serious challenge to GSP are Silva, Vitor, and Sonnen, and Silva & Sonnen are both HUGE for MWs.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You're way off base here Oswald

There’s no way a real MMA fan is “bored” with GSP fights..are you kidding with that??? Just because all of his fights don’t end in a sub or a KO, the dude is so talented, and you don’t see him get on his bicycle and run, like we’ve seen several times from Silva. You can’t compare the two. Look at the GSP vs Fitch fight….that fight went the distance, and was one of the most entertaining fights I can remember seeing. Anyone bored with GSP fights should go back to watching the old tough-man competitions…

"Oh hell son, i was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth....hell, you can even be fifth" - Reese Bobby

by kg12 on Dec 3, 2010 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LAME

GSP tries to finish fights and fights a style so he can win. He will… You know what I am going to stop typing because there is no convincing some people. They think MMA should be a bunch of Kimbos. If you do not like GSPs way of being a martial artist and winning and just want stand up and bang un-technical street fighting go watch fist fucking Kimbo! He is the anti-GSP in fighting style. So if you have such a huge issue with GSP you would probably like his opposite.

by Edgecrusher71 on Dec 3, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

They should have found him worthy contenders...

or made him go back up to 205 and fight. I think GSP embarrasses the UFC time and time again with his safe/boring way of fighting. That’s not helping the sport grow.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It's true that thy're not one in the same but it's also that...

neither of them help the sport grow with their off fights…

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Gatorade begs to differ.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You trying to be a smart ass? lol

So are you telling me with a str8 face that long time MMA fans who watched GDP before the Serra loss are happy with his fights? GTF outta here with that shit. lol GSP is a pretty boy which is part of the reason he’s the poster boy on top of being classy.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

GSP*

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Reasons GSP should be the #1 poster boy :

Humble
Well spoken
A true student of MMA
Honest
Intelligent
Respectful
Champion
Dominant

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

don't forget..

chizelled like a granite statue!!! lol

by sarah- on Dec 3, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not saying he isn't a good poster boy but...

it goes beyond just fighting and doesn’t make him the P4P best just because he is a… not the but one of the poster boys. Plus Silva and Shogun don’t speak very good english. GSP’s isn’t perfect either but far better than theirs.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed 100% OJR

GSP personifies everything that is good about this sport.

Silva is the opposite. Arrogant, Diva-ish, and cowardly.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Arrogant - yes. Diva - yes. Coward - I don't ever use that term for a person who fights for a living. Just not applicable.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Anderson fights for a living?

I would have guessed he was a professional dancer…or maybe a circus clown.

I call him cowardly because he’s the only fighter I know of in the UFC who tries to dictate his own matchmaking, and every time they ask him to fight a legit TOP 3 guy he has a laundry list of reasons why they don’t deserve a title shot. But then he never complains when he gets a low-mid level opponent like Cote, Leites, or Irvin.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I do agree that he should fight top tier guys at 205. His ego does get in the way of these possible match ups.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

He calls out irrellevant people like Roy Jones Junior and Frank Mir, but then says he shouldn’t have to fight Vitor because Vitor beatFranklin at 195 instead of 185. Nevermind that Silva got his title shot after his very first UFC fight, against mid-level Chris Leben. But then when a former UFC Champion returns to the octogon and beats the man Silva took the belt from, that guy doesn’t deserve a title shot! What a whiney little bitch!

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Frank Mir

is irrelevant now? I hate him too, but come on dude!

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Silva is fighting Vitor so how can you say that?

And I have read on hear by a lot of posters that Vitor shouldn’t get a title shot without fighting at least one fight at 185. Kinda makes sense and isn’t fair to the guys who have been winning at 185, like Okami! And Silva a coward? LMAO But GSP not moving up to fight him isn’t “cowardly?” I agree with OJR that you can’t call a professional fighter cowardly, esp Anderson!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 5:31 AM EST up reply actions  

MBOW how can you compare

the cowardice of Silva trying to wiggle out of fighting all the top challengers to his own belt (not to mention the top guys his own size at LHW) with GSP not wanting to fight a guy 30 lbs bigger than him? That’s just asinine!

As for Vitor, Silva/Soares tried numerous times to get out of that fight, claiiming Vitor didn’t deserve it. Silva gets a title shot after 1 fight against Leben, but Vitor finishes off the former MW champ in under 3 minutes and doesn’t deserve a shot? Rediculous! What the hell difference does it make that Franklin was 195? Vitor is on a 5 fight win streak with 4 KOs and a win over the previous MW champ. Okami got his ass kicked by Franklin and Sonnen.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Mir is irrellevant to Silva

Mir was 265 when Silva called him out, and not a champ, a legend, or even ranked in the TOP 5…So why would Silva call out Mir??? Answer: to take attention away from his ducking Hendo, Nate, and Vitor.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

His fights aren’t the issue. GSP has become the face of MMA. He is incredibly popular and with Lesnar’s defeat he is the biggest draw in the sport. He also is the most well-known fighter out there in the mainstream right now. Hate him all you like, but trying to deny facts transforms hate into insanity.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He's not THE face but...

one of THE faces. Maybe if you’re from Canada only. lol

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Rampage is the most well-known fighter in the mainstream right now. I agree with the rest of your post.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Lesnar is more known too...

that has to do with his WWE career but Liddell was bigger in his time.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Key words are RIGHT NOW. I think Rampage takes it easily : movies, TV appearances on talk shows, TUF and his latest win over Machida.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Under Armour (sp), also. Isn't he also in a Nike ad? Or some other gym shoe?

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I recall the general concensus before that fight being that Lutter was about to get murdered. People were surprised by how well he did in the first. Luckily for Anderson, Lutter shares a cardio routine with Phil Baroni.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I should have been more specific

people thought that he showed that Anderson’s weakness was BJJ and that a good BJJ guy could beat him.

by Edgecrusher71 on Dec 2, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s true. I think the guy people really thought might take him was Hendo.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cross your fingers, cross your toes.

But AS is still gonna knock Belfort the fuck out.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why don't you put your sig where your text is, punk?

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

do it up

same way he finished franklin, clip and swarm, punk

by sittingbull on Dec 2, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Its official then, sig bet, Rivalution and sittingbull.

Loser keeps winners choice of sig for 2 weeks after the fight. I’m gonna cook you up somethin good ;)

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

same my friend

i have a few months to conjure something up lol

by sittingbull on Dec 2, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You better

I’m expecting nothing less than total humiliation, should Silva lose.

P.S. He won’t

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Time for a rematch

He was handling Silva in their first fight and he deserves hes rematch. No one wants to see Okami fight for the belt. Sonnen will be champ by the end of next year.

by stepp1927 on Dec 2, 2010 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously?

You like the roid user w/ no nuts? To each his own, I suppose.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys are funny...

Silva would finish Sonnen even faster without his rib injury and without Chael’s needed a roid boost. Silva defeated him with 2 huge strikes against him so what makes you think Silva won’t beat Chael even sooner in the rematch? Plus I think Silva would take him more serious and destroy him.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 2, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You're a cool dude Oswald

You have the same view on Silva/Sonnen as I do.
Personally, I’d like to see Sonnen fight W. Silva, and Okami take on Silva for the belt. Anderson needs to show everyone that he would have handled Yushin, had he not been dq’d.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Anybody who saw the Andy/Okami fight..

knows Silva had him beat and was making him look like he didn’t belong in there with him. Only hater try to lie and claim overwise. This won’t change is they fight again.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 2, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that funny

Are you serious? A.S.S. was clearly out fought, didn’t know what to do with Chael cause he wasn’t like any of the other fighters he fought previous. That’s frik’n clear as crystal, and as for roids?? Seriously, I see guys downing Red Bulls before softball games…..I guess they’re cheating…..we should start committees to test if guys have to much sugar rush before a game cause the non RB drinkers are so dis-advantaged….. give me a break….somebody’s got your number or they don’t. Chael called it as he saw it, and it happened. For me, A.S.S. lost the fight and that, my friends made my year.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 2, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

DERP!!

CHAEL TAPPED! Or did you miss that part? And roids=Red Bull now? You’re as big a fuckin retard as danago.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva was not "out fought" let alone clearly.

Last time I checked steroids were a “performance enhancing drug” and are illegal for a good reason. Plus with Silva’s rib injury he clearly couldn’t move like he wanted to which involves juking. Makes no sense that Anderson has not only beat but toyed with better strikers than Chael. Roids would also effect Chael’s punching power and noticed that Silva still didn’t respect it when he kept his hands down and was taking punches. After the fight I didn’t see a mark on Silva’s face… can’t say the same about Chael’s. A rematch wouldn’t be a good night for Cap Steroid imo.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Come on

Let me point out something. He couldn’t do what he normally does, because it wasn’t working on the dominant fighter he was up against. A.S.S. did try his regular crap, you just didn’t see much cause he didn’t get much chance to do it.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 3, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

Silva is not the type of fighter to “pull out” a win… he dominates and destroys when he’s not toying around or fighting a guy who won’t go for him but I can’t agree with what you said earlier. Even though Silva won I def wasn’t happy with everything but there were several things going against him in that fight and he still pulled it off at the end.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Silva haters are fn funny! Amazing that you can pick apart the best fighter of our time!

How many fights has he won in the UFC now? And how many losses?

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 5:37 AM EST up reply actions  

and how many opponents his own size…and how many legitimate contenders?

In my opinon, the only fights that Silva deserves credit for are Franklin, Hendo, and Forrest. The rest were him being an ass-hat against low-mid level guys who had no business being in there with him to begin with. Sure he seems like a great fighter when he spent 90% of his career dominating the weakest division in the sport against guys 30 lbs smaller than him. But until he really steps up and proves himself against the top guys his own size (Shogun, Machida, Rampage, Rashad, etc) he doesn’t deserve to mentioned in P4P discussions.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Amazing how you hate a guy for cutting weight (WHICH THEY ALL DO!!!!)

Bottom line is he still doesn’t lose. GSP got beat by Serra who use to fight at 155! lol And when Silva goes up to 205 he makes them look silly! Look at what Forrest did to Page. Silva made Forrest look like a beginner. He was toying with him and having fun. Page got beat on for 5 rounds and looked lost. Give me a fighter that doesn’t cut weight. Never mind, I know you can’t!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

very very few can cut as much weight as Silva

and the whole point of this thing is debating who’s really avoiding serious challenges. GSP has never avoided anyone. Silva has a list a mile long of guys he’s either refused to fight or tried to wiggle out of. Right now, Shogun says he will fight Silva, but Silva say’s “No Way!” He says Chael and Vitor don’t deserve shots. He wiggled out of having to fight Hendo and Nate when they were the top contenders.
 
GSP has never behaved like that.

And to set the record straight, I’m not hating on Silva for cutting weight, I’m hating on him because people act like he’s a hero and a god for going up to fight guys his own size TWICE in his career.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

silva shouldnt have taken the fight if his rib was injured

enough of that bullshit. thats his own problem for being dumb enough to take a champioship fight with cracked ribs

by sittingbull on Dec 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Because Red Bull and anabolic steroids are like, totally the same thing. And when you’re a wrestler that relies on brute strength to drag your opponent to the ground, that’s not an advantage at all.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Just can't take it

Tough to take how he got dominated huh? Still getting to you guys? Let’s market roids with a tag line….

“Steroids….the new Super Human Advantage”

Your take on it proposes that everyone with roids in THERE blood can’t lose, and anyone taking it has only won or done great in a performance because of it. That’s rediculous.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 3, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, if you weren’t new here you’d realize that I dislike Anderson. But I dislike idiots who compare caffeine to Nandrolone even more. And that, my soft-headed little friend, is the last response you’ll troll out of this poster.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Your mistake

is thinking I was comparing them. See, you didn’t even need to reply to mine. Just think about what’s typed a little further and you’ll be ok….I promise.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 3, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This guy is such a cheater

Look, he’s wearing shoes, what an advantage over Silva, must be the reason for the loss……just gotta be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQa4X_WhM6s&NR=1

by TapeDispenser on Dec 3, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

"Steroids….the new Super Human Advantage"

Right, cause they’re not a "performance enhancing drug" at all! < Sarcasm!

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Diff time zones I guess...

but no need.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 3, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

"We are all now dumber for you having joined this site.

God have mercy on your soul."

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!!! Funny cause it's true!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Dec 3, 2010 5:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He was handling Silva in their first fight and he deserves hes rematch on roids and still couldn’t win. No one wants to see Okami fight for the belt. Sonnen will be champ by the end of next year has no balls.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if I were,

at least I’m not fuckin stupid enough to like Chael Sonnen.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so im stupid because I like Sonnen?

thats great… am I not allowed to be a fan?

by xquisitewretch on Dec 2, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

You can be a fan of whomever you choose. But if you root for cheaters, that’s pretty fuckin stupid.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Call it cheating if you will, I call it preparing to treat A.S.S. like the idiot he acts like. Hey next time you go out and do something athletic like basketball or competitive sports, make sure not to drink anything with sugar ahead of time cause your cheating by having that extra energy to help your body out during the action….just drink water…it’s good for your body.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 2, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Change your name

to either danago jr. or Ralph Wiggum, because you’re(not your, like you would say) fuckin stupid.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

Many people make the your mistake in fast typing, maybe YOUR new to posting? And the Name refers to tape for people’s foul mouths.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 2, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Just stop. He has owned you for this entire thread. Give it up and post another day.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 2, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ay Carumba! ***Face Palm***

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

many people are fuckin stupid, too.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

do it up

i see it goin down the same way he finished franklin clippin and swarming

by sittingbull on Dec 2, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

….yeah, he’ll really do it this time, cause he just couldn’t manage to squeak it out the first time.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

sonnen with no balls , Wow that means anderson silva got his a## kicked by a guy with no balls, look at anderson and every middle weight in that division look back 3 to five year there bodies and stregth have all changed that not from the weight room. so drop the crap on the steroid crap he got caught he wont be the last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by saw5333 on Dec 2, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

English

learn it.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok

Then you know that was a run-on sentence that made not one fucking bit of sense.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

well you put the periods in. but still does not change that your full of shit. there a new ufc this month you should watch your first one . then you might know what is going on in the sport .

by saw5333 on Dec 3, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Okami to fight Silva for the belt

Or do I not matter? :(

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, you don't

because if you want that fight, then it’s either because you work for Ed Soares or you’re just trying to protect your favorite fighter from any real threats and would rather watch him in a 5 round snoozer than in a fight he’s not guaranteed to win.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 2, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You're probably right

about the boring fight, but I’d kinda like to see it if only for the rematch between the two and to see Yushin get the shot he deserves.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Ehem. Who are you? And why you posting like you know my sport?

You say I work for Soares? That I’m trying to protect my fighter? Drop that ish kid, you don’t know what you’re saying. Silva needs to smack that fool Okami so he can avenge the most bs loss of career, is all. Get on my level son, you’re a few steps behind.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 3, 2010 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

Hark! The herald Newbie sings!

Son, I was posting on this site when you were still trying to escape your Mama’s umbilical choke!

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice Christmas carol reference.

Both of you guys made me chuckle.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

He's lucky

I think he’s damn lucky to only get 6 months.

I don’t think he deserves an immediate rematch, I think Yushin deserves it, but I know Sonnen will sell much better so that will likely happen.

I really don’t think Sonnen will look nearly as good in his second outing, personally.

Jon Jones LHW Champion 2011
Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011

by ShaiZ on Dec 2, 2010 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

He will look the same....dominant

Chael will already have his training crew on him about everyone thinking he can’t do it cause of the “Steroids”, so he will be even more determinded than the last fight, number one. AND, we all know that A.S.S. will try and be different somehow, and the Sonnen camp will be well prepared for a “different” Anderson. Look at Hughes…..one of the greatest…I’m a big fan, but a hand full of guys were able to get through his routine and beat him like he was never even the champ. A.S.S. is going down…again.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 2, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL "determinded"

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

We're not all typing

like the speed of a turtle Brizzle la Shizzle

by TapeDispenser on Dec 2, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Oooh

Good one. What’s next, “your(this is the place for it) mom” jokes?

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem with taht

First really you’re really doing the “A.S.S” thing, you’re doing that
I really dislike Chael, but I’m not going to childishly mess with this name.

Anderson did have a injury, who knows how much that played a part, but he sure didn’t look like the Anderson we’ve seen in other outings.

Also when you say ‘again’ like somehow Anderson cheated Chael out of his hard earned win; Sonnen lost, well I’d like to say ‘fair and square’, but really he didn’t even lose legitimately.

Jon Jones LHW Champion 2011
Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011

by ShaiZ on Dec 3, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry.

This dude is stupid, first and foremost, second, he just joined today to troll about his mancrush Chael. They bonded over under-developed balls.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's Give This Fella an Award!

The “First Post Without the F Word” Award.

We’re proud of you Big B…..now you’re getting to be like the rest of the class….but for now, stay within the circle on the rug cause you used the word “balls” and readjust your coned hat, it’s falling a little.

by TapeDispenser on Dec 3, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

MMMMKAY

You’ve been posting here for less than 12 hours, and you’re commenting on the content of my posts? GET FUCKED WITH A PINEAPPLE YOU FUCKING TROLL.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

who would the other coach be? wandi or bisping?

"People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

by DetroitDrew1980 on Dec 2, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wand all the way. That way we can have USA v. Brazil.

It may also be the first season where the coaches actually fight during the show. The trash talk/hype would be epic.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nobody is going to understand a thing Wand says. I predict there’s a lot of stuff like “You go have to get knockout. You punch now him.”

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

But if it's USA v Brazil, all his fighters would be brazilian.

They could always use subtitles for the viewers.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It’s a cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing Spike invest in a show where half the cast can’t speak English. You have to remember that 75% of the Spike viewing audience are offended by the fact that other languages exist.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol. I see your point.

It’s a good idea, in theory.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL almost true

I don’t think they are offended that other languages exist. They’re just offended that people actually speak those languages for any reason other than portraying action-movie villains. They have no problem with Klingon for example. But they don’t like it when people speak “Mexican” in the supermarket.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Xenophobia’s a bitch, especially in a place like America where, hello, we’re all descended from immigrants unless you live on the res somewhere.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

fuckin tragic..but true...

hell they even subtitle people speaking english.. i can understand accents generally..i welcome the thought of fighters from other countries..but then again, i am canadian…

by sarah- on Dec 2, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn hippie. ;-)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

sigh

yeah ok..i am pleasantly somewhere between redneck and hippie..and no not in a threesome kinda way..just can’t stand dirty nasty hippies or ignorant fucking rednecks..but live amongst them…so i just exist in the middle.

by sarah- on Dec 2, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The middle is a good place to be, I find. Unless you’re in a prison shower.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

how’s the fatty folk training going?…

by sarah- on Dec 2, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Chuggin’ along, babe. Chuggin’ along.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao! Luv Wand.

"Take what is mine, hold what is mine
Suffocate what is mine, bury what's mine
Soon the water will come
And claim what is mine
I must leave it behind
And climb to a new place now"-Flood

by d*locc on Dec 2, 2010 9:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So true! Gotta luv Wandy for trying though!
“Zhu know him is very very past for to hit for him, zhu know, but he’s no no no very no so much in ZhuZheeetsu for to me for him. So I thinks for him is more more difficult for the sewbmeesions for to me. For me I no thinks so is better for to him. Zhu know?”

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow. That was great. I laughed.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the kids already know

how to stick a needle in their asses.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So the CSAC is about a useful as a traffic court.

Actually the old label behind a foldout table who drops my speeding ticket to “improper equipment” is probably 10x as useful as that clown college.

I guess they gave Sonnen the same effort grade they give 10 yr olds.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Dec 2, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

All of you are crazy

If he couldn’t beat him juiced up and with silva having broken ribs he won’t beat him six months from now

by MrLopez on Dec 2, 2010 8:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

+1

That’s exactly what I’ve been saying. Sure it’s possible but unlikely. Silva as champ is more exciting from a fighting view anyways. We don’t need to see another champ lay on people for 5 rounds. We already have GSP for that.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 2, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

chaels ground and pound is pretty exciting to me. I personally loved how he busted nate the great up, but thats just me

by sittingbull on Dec 2, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Sonnen’s face looked worse than Nate’s after that fight IIRC.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

marquardt landed a few good elbows from guard

but other than that he was totally dominated from start to finish.

by sittingbull on Dec 2, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Beside the point. You said you loved watching him “bust Nate up”, but Sonnen was the one who looked busted up. Semantics.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true.

An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!

by Oswald on Dec 2, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

They should cut this cheating bum

by phatmacjuggalo10 on Dec 2, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Glad it was reduced

I’m glad it was reduced…. he made the mistake of not reporting it but im glad to see that he does need it for medical purposes. Can’t wait to see him back in the cage next summer, gonna make the middleweight division exciting again.

by Morgan Waltz on Dec 2, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

"medical purposes"

LOL Hello! Anybody home?! Don’t be so gullible, McFly!

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Medical reasons?? yea if cheating is a Medical reason

by phatmacjuggalo10 on Dec 2, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So this slimy, no good, steroid poppin, cheating piece of fuck got a break.

No respect for this guy. I HOPE he gets his re-match, so that Anderson can embarass him. No injuries this time, and hopefully no steroids.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You know

this sounds just like all the “BEATING” and “KNOCK OUT” talk everyone was throwing at Sonnen before the fight…..and look what happened….

by TapeDispenser on Dec 3, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Look what happened?

Is that referring to the steroids Sonnen was popping? Or the fact that Silva was fighting with a cracked rib? Because if you’re implying that the fight would go down the same way a second time around, both fighters clean and healthy, then you’re sadly mistaken.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 3, 2010 12:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

didn't like chael before..still don't like him after..

his style of hype is so disrespectful and such rubbish..no love at all!!

by sarah- on Dec 2, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Yup. He chose to make himself into a soundbite clown before the Silva fight. Good for him, he hyped the fight. But now hes the one getting clowned, and he’ll forever look like a cheater and an asshole for it, especially when he accused Lance Armstrong of being juiced and then denied making the comments and attributed them to a minority. Classy stuff, especially when he knew the whole time that HE was on steroids.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 2, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

typical..

that is the way it goes for most accusers of anything.. the preacher who is anti-gay is throwing it in little boys..and the examples go on and on!!

by sarah- on Dec 2, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Who got the W?

Oh yeah, even if he wouldn’t have tapped out, HE CHEATED, and would’ve lost the belt any goddamn way.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 2, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Xquisite is just an AS hater.

He doesn’t appreciate true talent.

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 3, 2010 12:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Chael may talk a big game

but every fight he is in he goes in and FIGHTS, the same can not be said for AS’ bitch ass

by xquisitewretch on Dec 3, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you not understand,

or just totally discount the roids that fuckstick was taking?

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a very good example of x not appreciating true talent.

Chael goes in there and fights? Hardly. His style is a step up from lay n pray, whoopty ficken doo. AS doesn’t have to push the pace in his fights, as he is so good that he can beat other fighters without even trying (unless said fighter is using steroids like a pussy)

Proud fan of big boy Brock and Anderson Silva
"Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty"

by Rivalution on Dec 3, 2010 12:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A Brock fan talking about steroids.

That’s funny.

AS didn’t push the pace against Chael because he was too busy getting his ass beat.

Carwin stopped him the whole first round and beat him down.
He beat up a fresh Brock Lesnar, and Lesnar subbed a gassed Shane Carwin.

Brock doesn’t like to be hit and does not defend well once he catches a shot to the head.
It’s going to be his downfall.

Carwin>Lesnar in a rematch.
by Spiffy on Oct 15, 2010 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Spiffy on Dec 3, 2010 7:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Soooo, you're not a fan because of his personality?

That seems a little superficial. I doubt they want you to like them on a personal level, they just want you to buy their fights.

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by Rivalution on Dec 3, 2010 12:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

PROPS to KEVJACK

He posted this news first, and without the blatantly biased headlines!

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by (shonuff) on Dec 2, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

You're saying

that’s a blatantly biased headline?

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 2, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Reads factual. Sho might have meant how headlines are written in general?

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by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Right.

I just don’t get the need to try to call anybody out for a headline that, like you said, reads factual. And okay, we get it, Kev posted it first. I would have had this shit up way earlier but I’ve had a long and very shitty night. I’m just pissy, my woman is sick, I need to get out of the comments.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

bummer geno..

hope tomorrow is better…now go tend to your chick!!

by sarah- on Dec 3, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

She's finally home

and in bed now. She’s sleeping, which is why I have time to get back on here. Hopefully we’ll know more about what the issues are soon. Thanks, though.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Cheer up, bro. Sho is not a troll and I am sure he was not taking a shot at you.

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by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank god.

Jesse is a crazy bastard.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

lol..

well then i guess i know the other side of him..lol

by sarah- on Dec 3, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait

you know a non-crazy side of Jesse?

Usually, all I hear from him is… “Geno, what the hell? You spelled a word wrong in your post, go fix it, now, before I fire your ass.”

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

That

may or may not be a joke. :)

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Geno made it sound like I was criticising HIS headline…then OJ told him I wasn’t taking a shot at him, as if he wrote it. That’s why I’m befuddled.

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by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I know.

And thanks.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe because I read Kev's first and the tone of the two is so different.

Kev’s thrust seemed to be, "Sonnen’s sentence was reduced because he had a legit medical reason for what he was using and was being punished for not following proper procedure, not for what he took.

Jesse’s thrust seems to be “Sonnen is still a cheater, but they’re gonna cut him some slack.” Notice the emphasis on PEDs and failed tests in the body and the headline emphasized the suspension being upheld rather, where Kev’s headline emphasizes that it was reduced.

I guess how you judge the write-ups depends on where your bias lies as a fan. If you’re anti-Sonnen, Jesse’s write-up will seem like straight facts to you. If you pro-Sonnen, Kev’s seems like straight facts and Jesse’s seems bitter and accusatory. Both are constructed of facts, but WHICH facts they tell and emphasize are very different.

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by (shonuff) on Dec 3, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh.

I get what you’re saying. Just didn’t understand the need to say it like that. That’s all. I know you’re not a troll.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the original point was about the headline and not the content of the article. Two different things.

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by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I get what he's saying on both.

Feels like a moot point.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, this article cuts Sonnen some serious slack.

It neglects to mention that TRT doesn’t account for Sonnen’s testosterone levels being six times the normal amount, which basically makes his entire defence complete bullshit.

TRT is supposed to bring hormone levels back to normal, or maybe slightly above that. The only way to get levels like Sonnen had is through the use of anabolic steroids.

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by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Give this man a prize.

Or a spot on the CSAC.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Why don’t you enlighten us then. Or go back to posting stupid pictures, which is really pretty much the limits of your intellectual prowess.

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The valiant never taste of death but once."

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by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

youre just pulling this stuff out of your ass

how about some sort of proof? where did you get your information? you just make this shit up, just like you did about sherk… just go bury your head in the snow, you liberal canadian pussy

by xquisitewretch on Dec 3, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright

let’s try to calm it down, fellas.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Welcome to the late night fights, Geno!

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by OJR on Dec 3, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess so.

The moderating rule is essentially this – excessive shit talk might get deleted… but you’ll never get deleted if you make it funny. And that rule is not from me. :)

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha.

One of the great things of Mania. We won’t censor you, even if we don’t agree.

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by Geno Mrosko on Dec 3, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Couldn’t be calmer, Geno.

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The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If you knew how to read complete sentences you could check the initial testing reports yourself. It makes you really angry doesn’t it, that your favourite fighters are established cheaters. I’m sorry you are so angry for absolutely no reason.

And being Canadian isn’t something to be ashamed of, kid. Posting pictures of women being beaten like it’s funny is. You cowardly little shitstain.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Mr. Wretch is a very angry boy. I find it’s best to just ignore him, so he goes back to posting pictures of women with guns in their mouths, which Jesse then has to delete. He’s a really special kid.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Dec 3, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I know, but it’s so much fun! “I love Chael cause he’s a Republican! Fuck that Brazilian fuck!”

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 3, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

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