My Take On The Debate, Anderson Silva Still World's Best.

by NCSAR on Dec 13, 2010 9:58 AM EST

Who is the world’s best pound for pound fighter? What a difference a few days, one fight, and hype will do for a ranking. George St. Pierre is without a doubt the best Canadian fighter ever. He is arguably the most popular Canadian sports star since Wayne Gretzky, but does a decision win over Josh Koscheck put him in rarefied air as the world’s best?

For the post in its entirety: I think not! This question is more of a riddle, puzzle, or brain teaser. More of a personal preference than right or wrong question. How can someone determine who is the best between two incredible fighters that are both future Hall of Famers, seem to be untouchable, whose styles are so different?

This is like asking who would you rather have at QB Peyton or Tom…There really is no wrong answer. Peyton….

To help us determine the P4P best, we will look at their last 5 fights.

GSP

1: Josh Koscheck by Unanimous Decision (UFC 124)

2: Dan Hardy by Unanimous Decision (UFC 111)

3: Thiago Alves by Unanimous Decision (UFC 100)

4: BJ Penn by TKO/ Ref Stoppage (UFC 94)

5: John Fitch by Unanimous Decision (UFC 87)

**GSP’s last loss was to Matt Serra (UFC 69, April 2007)**

Anderson Silva

1: Chael Sonnen by submission (UFC 117)

2: Demian Maia by Unanimous Decision (UFC 112)

3: Forrest Griffin by KO (UFC 101)

4: Thales Leites by Unanimous Decision (UFC 97)

5: Patrick Cote by Injury Stoppage (UFC 90)

**Silva’s last loss was to Yushin Okami due to illegal kicks (Rumble on the rock, January 2006)**

On paper the wins by GSP are better until you look at how the fight was finished. The largest chink (and its really not a fault) in GSP’s armor is that he doesn’t always finish fights. He is a very intelligent fighters that is more concerned with winning than highlights. Similar to an old school point guard, this is a great testament to his character and what he is attempting to accomplish as a Mixed Martial Artist.

Anderson Silva could have just been THAT much better than his competition. He rarely went to decision in this stretch and when he did it was because his challengerswere running from him! Sure, he was in deep trouble against Sonnen, but on paper all you see is a win. Champions find a way to win, and that is what he did.

What do you guys think? Can we learn anything by the records or is it an apple to orange comparison?

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Anderson Silva

1: Chael Sonnen by submission (UFC 117)

2: Demian Maia by Unanimous Decision (UFC 112)

3: Forrest Griffin by KO (UFC 101)

4: Thales Leites by Unanimous Decision (UFC 97)

5: Patrick Cote by Injury Stoppage (UFC 90)

1. Was losing the first 23 minutes of the fight

2. Pathetic display of all kinds of useless nonsense. Lost a couple rds.

3. Impressive KO, but Forrest is pretty overrated and not at the top of the 205 class by any means.

4. Who? Thales who? He doesnt even fight for the UFC. Complete snooze fest.

5. Freak injury. Would have ended same way as #4 and #2. Cote took silva’s best shots.

and Boom goes the dynamite.

by Newfie3 on Dec 13, 2010 10:28 AM EST reply actions

Forrest is pretty overrated, yet he beat Rampage when he’s was deemed scary AND the current LHW champion Mauricio Rua. Yes, Shogun had an injury, so did Griffin.
Jake Shields took Dan Henderson biggest punches and then dominated the former Pride champion for 4 rounds. He won that fight.
GSP could not take Matt Serra’s biggest punch.

What was your point?

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 13, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

1: Josh Koscheck by Unanimous Decision (UFC 124)

2: Dan Hardy by Unanimous Decision (UFC 111)

3: Thiago Alves by Unanimous Decision (UFC 100)

4: BJ Penn by TKO/ Ref Stoppage (UFC 94)

5: John Fitch by Unanimous Decision (UFC 87)

1. Complete beatdown of #2 WW in the world. Never lost a rd.

2. Almost finished at 2 point. Definately not best performance but 50-45 across the board.

3. Another 50-45 against a super tough guy. Hurt himself in the fight.

4. Do i even need to explain that one?

5. Complete and utter destruction of the #3 (or #2 WW in world) Never lost a rd.

and Boom goes the dynamite.

by Newfie3 on Dec 13, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions

You have to look at it like this..

Can GSP stand with Silva? Yes.
Can Silva stop GSP’s takedowns? no.
Would Silva submit GSP? no.
Can GSP submit silva? Yes.

There would be a chance that Silva would KO GSP in the standup, but it is very obvious that Silva’s kryptonite is wrestling and ground n’ pound. Something GSP would have no problem enforcing upon him.

If they were to fight it would be another 50-45 for GSP because Silva would have no answers against his wrestling.

Sonnen and Bisping = Pillow hands. The KO power of a paraplegic.
Jake Shields is the abortion of MMA. GSP would murder that clown.
--I did a lot of talking, but Brock Lesnar didn't back it up for me.--

by D-MoB on Dec 13, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions

Anderson has a couple subs over wresters i think

off the top of my head Hendo and Sonnen come to mind. So now im lost on your logic DMob.

With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.

by BJPennfan on Dec 13, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions

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Sonnen walks into submissions, he has no defence to them whats so ever.

And henderson is old and has the gas tank of toy car.

If GSP was too fight Silva he wouldn`t fall into a submission like they did.
And to say GSP could stand with him is a bit of a stretch. But I think he could long enough to get a takedown. see what I`m saying? Not all five rounds.. but maybe the first minute of each.

by D-MoB on Dec 13, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions

Silva had no answers for Marquardt grappling skills.
SIlva had no answers for Lutter’s BJJ. Henderson’s takedown, yes, I know he’s a brawler and couldn’t deal with Sonnen’s wrestling.
Matt Hughes submitted GSP.
GSP could not submit Dan Hardy.
GSP’s last victory via submission was against . . . Matt Hughes.

Can GSP submit Silva? Yes.
Where’s your logic?

Oh yeah, the last time Silva was submitted was by the ultimately entertraining Flying Scissor Heel Hook. So we know both fighters have lost to submission.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 13, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions

You can't just say that.

WHile GSP was impressive and I really enjoyed the fight I’m not convinced that he could stand with Andy after that. I don’t know where you get that idea. I don’ t think we’ll ever know what would happen until they fought, the only thing that your lists prove is that both guys are winners.

Drink to remember, drink to forget.

by doonerthesooner on Dec 13, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions

That sneaky link is better than most...

when they both sign to fight each other, I will give a shit abut who would win.

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 13, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions

It's pointless to argue anymore

when people seem pretty set on their opinion on who’s better.

So I’m pretty much with you that until they actually fight each other we should probably let this debate rest.

"in this day and age of "let's erect a statue"-isn't it time Jerry Reinsdorf is honored" - The Swirsk

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 13, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions

^ this.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 13, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions

as far as p4p goes

If AS and GSP were the exact same size, with the exact same skillset, who would win?

I think GSP wins that fight. He would be a terrible matchup for Silva if they were the same size (naturally). If GSP moves up to fight Silva, I’d say it could go either way.

by LJ. on Dec 13, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions