Dana White on letting Brock Lesnar appear in WWE: 'I don't want to blur the lines between what's real and what isn't'
by Jesse Holland on Dec 10, 2010 11:04 AM EST
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Same old shit
The title got me thinking he was going to be part of the WWE but this is the same old story he’s under contract with the UFC and there is no WWE as long as dana has anything to say about it.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I think
Brock won’t stick in the UFC unless he has a seroious shot at the title.
A few more lop sided losses and I wouldn’t be shocked to see him skip town back to the WWE.
"in this day and age of "let's erect a statue"-isn't it time Jerry Reinsdorf is honored" - The Swirsk
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah with a few more lopsided loses maybe but I don't see that happening
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i don't see him getting lopsided losses to carwin, cain or jds anytime soon
i somehow cynically think this “struve vs mccorckle= main event” because they’re going to push for a struve/mccorckle v brock as a legitimate comeback fight. then give him some lopsided wins. he’s too much money for the ufc to take risks with
For Brock though the only really risky fights are Cain and Carwin for sure JDS might be another but who knows unless they fight?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i don't think jds would be really either
but maybe…he is a striker. so as far as brock and punches to his face go, that’s a risk. personally i think he’d take jds. but if i owned the company i wouldn’t put him in there with him till he’s won a few fights. struve, dana said always does awful in the first round. mccorkle, i watched him fight some fat shit on youtube yesterday who crumbled to a rabbit punch and mccrkle took 3 minutes too long to beat him. if he can say these guys are top ten heavyweights it’s a good comeback fight for brock against someone joe rogan will no doubt tout as “the real deal” and who brock will smash
Struve-McOrkle vs Brock in a handicap match might be a fair and compelling fight. Brock one-on-one with either of those spare parts would get Dana arrested as an accessory to murder.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
you mean like masterblaster
in the thunderdome? three men enter, one man leaves
JDS would beat down Brock like Carwin,
without running out of gas in the first round.
LMFAO
“i don’t see him getting lopsided losses to carwin, cain or jds anytime soon”
Really what did you see in the Cain fight that makes you think that Brock is anywhere near the level of talent that these guys are? Nothing.
Carwin schooled him but fucked up himself…Brock loses the rematch.
Cain…please. There was nothing to indicate that Brock can compete with Cain. Cain was basically untouched and he SHUT DOWN Brocks wrestling. Yep, Brock CHOSE to stand later in the fight.
JDS…Brock hates getting hit…what make you think Brock has anything for JDS. And do you think JDS can be bullied…stupid, just stupid.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
With JDS we don't know if his takedown D is any better than Mirs striker. He is a question mark agaisnt a good grappler but we may find out when he faces Cain.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i meant don't see him getting a lopsided loss any time soon
as in the ufc wont have him fighting any of those people any time soon, protect their investment
yeah
Because after his last two fights he looked so great.
then again, the UFC will give thier boy a mega softball opponent…I am guessing Struve.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
that was my entire point
i said that’s why dana is pushing the strve mccorkle fight as mainevent status, so he can throw the winner to brock saying that whoever wins this fight is the real deal and a legitimate threat to brock
Oh...got it.
Puck thinks Brock wont lose anyone fights because he is just that great…LOL
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
i don't rate him in the top 5 heavyweights
being afraid of being hit kinda knocks you out of contention. i don’t however think he’s not legitimate contender. if he won the belt, defended it, and carwin couldn’t finish him, he think he deserves consideration as a top ufc heavyweight.
i still think it’ll be a while before he goes for the belt, or at least until cain loses it
But look who he did it against...
Randy, old ring rusted, not the same since the layoff for acting.
Mir…earned split him, but was only in that fight because NOG had a staph infection.
Carwin lost that fight, Brock didn’t WIN it. There is a difference, smart people understand this.
Furthermore, I have no lest than 10 UFC HW’s and no less than 10 NON UFC HW’s winning those same three fights against those same three opponents at the same time.
I agree about Cain…guy looks awesome. JDS is an interesting matchup though. But I don;t see Brock ever winning it again with out some type of staph infection or creative scheduling by the UFC. They have proven to not be above it already.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
stubborn people can't understand this
it doesn’t matter who he did it against. he beat a champ, defended against and beat two interim champs.if you’re gonna deny that brock didn’t suceed and wasn’t worth the push when he did that, there’s no convincing you.
i’m not saying he’s he best. i’m saying you can’t take away from him what he did. how many other fighters finished carwin?
But the title is made up...
Especially the one that Brock “won”. In fact Randy vacated the title and they were on their second interim fight. In fact the Mir?NOG TUF was stated that it would be for THE title. Not the interim title.
In reality Brock beat guys that were hand picked for him to win and for him to get the most value out of his wins.
I DO NOT think the wins that he got were impressive. Even if they had the word title attached to them. I didnt think Brock did well against Herring (to me control isn’t really winning), or Randy (sho tto the back of the head), or Carwin or Cain. In fact his only good showing earned him a split, Mir.
So yeah, i don’t give him credit for his handpicked wins. Would he have gotten that kind of treatment if he wasn;t a WWE star no. Cain was runner up for the NCAA title. He had to grind his way up. So do the other mega elite wrestlers. Like I said before I can name 10 in and out of the UFC that I beleive would win every figth Brock won when he won them.
I am not impressed by his preforMANCe (thanks GSP). That’s why when fools say it’s blind hate, I just laugh. I have a basis for not liking him…and the Carwin fight was a taste and the Cain fight is the main course. He just isn’t. He was winning on bullydom (now the aura is gone), his size and weight advantage ( now matched), his wrestling (which has been negated by anyone with a wrestling base), and he has huge holes in his striking, heart, chin, transitions, practical wrestling, and I suspect sub defense.
So I guess I am not taking away his accomplishements because I never gave him credit for them in the first place. Too bad, had he worked his way up like everone else, I would have at least respected him.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Same old shit as always. I hope you are only copying this from your older posts.
Retyping this same drivel over and over makes you insane.
Worked his way up?
So you would be happier if he wasted 5 years fighting cans a la Fedor?
Sure you would have. He doesn’t have time to waste working his way up against the other 10 HW’s the UFC employs. He jumped in and fought the best the UFC could possibly give him. I think that deserves more respect than working his way up through the Struves, Buentellos and CC’s of the world.
Who else could give him a "lop sided" loss...
besides somebody who can stop his takedowns and crush him in the stand up? Only guys I can think of are Cain and Carwin…. maybe JDS. Everybody else he should be able to beat easily like he did before the Carwin fight.
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!
Exactly Oswald
If brock can just get the rest of his MMA game to a decent level he will be champion again but two fighters(cain, Carwin) can defend against Brocks takedown early in the fight anyway and thats all they have to really worry about making it a little easier, I just don’t see anybody else being able to stop Brock from taking them down?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Just a thought
But maybe brocks illness has something to do with his recent performances. Not saying he’s still sick but his mindset is totally different now. He’s humble and doesn’t have that bad attitude and maybe he just lost his killer instinct. Obviously his stand up is a problem too but maybe he just isn’t the same fighter he was before he got sick
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."-Albert Einstein
by Craigo8609 on Dec 10, 2010 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His striking defence is a huge problem.
He needs to keep his composure in the striking battle instead of hitting the panic button as soon as he’s losing and i think it’s more experience as Brock has never really competed in anything striking wise and it shows. He needs to maintain his ground game and really focus on the stand up.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Brock shud have the best striking defense in the ufc w/those big ass tree trunks he call arms.
"Take what is mine, hold what is mine
Suffocate what is mine, bury what's mine
Soon the water will come
And claim what is mine
I must leave it behind
And climb to a new place now"-Flood
by d*locc on Dec 10, 2010 12:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well not 100% true
his wide shoulders give him a huge space for upper cuts. His stand up will never be elite but if he can get it too Barnett or Hughes like calibure it will be effective enough to allow for better takedown opportunoties.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I'm surprised his sword on his chest doesn't strike fear in all men
Anyone with a big dick tattooed dead center of their chest like a blue print or outline should make any man run the other direction. He’d make sure your tarhole would glow like a bullseye after he was done with you.
"He beat me fair & square. no, I’m sorry, he beat me fairly squarely" – GSP
by hairybumcrack on Dec 10, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares what he wants to do, he is a grown man
I for one like watching Brock fight and seriously hope he learns to strike. If he decides to do wrestling, the he probably won’t learn to strike and will start loosing and get booted. Its his life, his path.
by Edgecrusher71 on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Why not bring
The Undertaker to the UFC for one fight. I do like the odd freak show (as long as it’s not a main event) and I bet it would generate massive revenue.
I got James Toney by Boston crab!
"Take what is mine, hold what is mine
Suffocate what is mine, bury what's mine
Soon the water will come
And claim what is mine
I must leave it behind
And climb to a new place now"-Flood
by d*locc on Dec 10, 2010 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
while brock is out there hunting in canada the undertaker is secretly training with randy couture for one fight only in the ufc.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Dec 10, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Undertaker has been training MMA for a while.
You watch him wrestle it’s very obvious. The guy used to have the tombstone piledriver, Old school, some suplexes.. running ddt, flying larriette and that was it.
In the last few years, maybe 7. He has put on MMA gloves and often riddles people with punches, and he’s always doing different submissions. something you’d never see him do years ago.
It’s kind of fun to watch Undertaker change styles in the ring.
Sonnen and Bisping = Pillow hands. The KO power of a paraplegic.
Jake Shields is the abortion of MMA. GSP would murder that clown.
--I did a lot of talking, but Brock Lesnar didn't back it up for me.--
once brock losses a few more i could see this happening. maybe not in the ufc but in some organization.
everybody loves a grudge match.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Dec 10, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
baddest soup bones in the business
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Two Thoughts
1) Some of the best pro wrestling I ever saw was in the old UWFi from Japan. Worked shoots can be really, really good TV.
2) Dana still thinks boxing is real? That’s so cute! Let’s not tell him about Santa until after Christmas.
it's real, it's just not competitive anymore
bunch of mismatches most of the time
I don't know I think he's partially right
Many boxing fights when I stopped watching turned to jab fest fights that went the distance and almost felt like the two fighters agreed not to throw any power strikes and cash in on their millions.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I love the language he uses...
" I don’t want to blur the lines.."
Newsflash, you already blurred the lines. It’s like a murderer saying," I am not a violent person but…"
YEs by adding Brok you have blurred the lines. By giving him the easiest path to the title you have blurred the lines. My making him the feature of all of your marketing (including the cover of the game) you have blurred the lines. Face it, Brok isn’t popular becuase of his college wrestling or what he has “accomplished in MMA”. Brok is popular becuase of what he did in the WWE. His presence is a bluring of the lines.
And adding Kimbo blurred the lines between MMA and streetfighting….straight up fail on both fronts.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
And adding Lyoto Machida blurred the lines of MMA and Karate.
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 10, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
except Karate is a martial art
So is college wrestling…but “professional” WWE syle wrestling isn’t.
My point.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
What?
Did you forget that Brock isn’t the first WWE guy to fight for the UFC?
You are just a hater that will try to say whatever he can to disrespect Brock.
Barnett is a pro wrestler, he still does it to this day. I bet you would be fine with a Barnett/Fedor fight though wouldn’t you? Same way you would have been fine with old man Randy fighting Fedor.
Brok isn’t popular becuase of his college wrestling or what he has "accomplished in MMA".
LOL C’mon striker we all know thats a lie. But good try Brock is popular to many that follow college wrestlign and are MMA fans and second many of us non WWE fans becasme fans becasue of his early MMA fights. Your jsut making sh^t up, Brock being a big freak athlete also has much to do with his fame yes the WWE increases his popularity from there and opens more doors no doubt but he has proved he belongs in the UFC octagon by beating some of the best “Fedor era” type fighters. He now has to improve to beat the best current day fighters…well one anyway.
I know your going to like the Fedor era comment LOL
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
“LOL C’mon striker we all know thats a lie.’
“Your jsut making sh^t up,”
No, even as a college wrestler myself I barely heard of him from his NCAA days. Brock got famous because of the WWE. There are lots of freak athletes out there that aren.t as famous as Brock.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
I'm not a WWE fan I was when I was 10ish and I heard about Brock when he tried out for the the NFL as many did
His athletic ability was insane and his college wrestling was showcased when he tried out for the Vikings. just becasue thats all you know him by doesn’t mean that true for all fans. Many had no clue who he was but the Mir fight intrigued many. Trust me I was on here showing his background accomplishments and NFL measurables before he even faced Mir. And at the time those measurables dwarfed the best HW’s at the time.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Puck...
You don;t represent most of the country. Brock only entered the mainstream due to his WWE days.
Quickly name me the last three NCAA HW champs…without looking it up. Thought not.
Brock only got famous from the WWE. ANd got special treatment in MMA becuase of it. Can you imagine MLB adding some japanese team to the world series instead of the Giants becuase they thought it would be more legit. And them had them face the yankees in order to drive up TV sales. It would destroy the legitimacy of the sport…hmmm sound familiar?
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Damn striker, can you not go one day without going on a Brock hating frenzy?
I told you before, it’s getting old bro. can’t we just wait until he fights again to start this argument for the 10000000th time
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."-Albert Einstein
Can MMAmani.com go one day with bring up the bluring of the line between WWE and MMA
“I told you before, it’s getting old bro.”
Well I guess if you…some guy on the web…says something is old then it must be.
“can’t we just wait until he fights again to start this argument for the 10000000th time”
I didn’t make the posting I am just responding to it. I am only arguing with the start struck hold outs that somehow mist the disparity in talent between Brock and an real MMA fighter. “But Cain is the best in t he world, no shame in that.” That’s the brocksucker battlecry now. Early OCtober, “Brock was the baddest man on the planet.” Now no shame in losing…okaaaaay.
If the Brocksuckers didn’t buy into his hype so much then they would be getting an earful now. They sucked his dick…now they have to swallow what is given to them.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
I think we all stopped talking about Brocks wins (the first four fights that you picked wrong but never mention) about a week after the event.
You seem to be on a crusade to tell everyone that YOU Were right this one time. It’s lame.
Signing Brock blurred the lines. LOL, jesus
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Really...
you don;t think adding a WWE champ and giving him an easy path to the title blurred the lines? Really?
Mainstream sports already equated the two…now they aren’t sure which they were seeing when they turn to basic cable and see Brock shit talking and flexing.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
No blurred lines. Had they brought in the Undertaker or Bastista, i wouldnt be saying anything.
Its hard to call it an easy path, when VERY few guys have the kind of initial schedule he did. Was his popularity from WWE, an addition? of course, but he came in with LEGITIMATE skills and a LEGITIMATE background, better than MOST guys come in with. Period. Then….he went and proved himself.
(i agree he doesnt like to get hit and HAS to be the bully, but thats a different conversation).
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
“Its hard to call it an easy path”
No it’s not. Since when does a guy get a title shot when it’s his third MMA fight, lost 1 of them, and then beat two sub standard fighters. IT IS THE EASIEST PATH IN HISTORY.
“but he came in with LEGITIMATE skills and a LEGITIMATE background”
So do lots of NCAA wrestlers but they don;t get title shots after being 1-1 in the UFC. Hmmm…would his WWE popularity have something to do with it? I think so. But you can convince me if you can name anybody else who got a title shot that fast after being 1-1.
“better than MOST guys come in with. Period.”
What planet are you on? Most guys come into the UFC with more than a single fight. Because the UFC is the big leagues. EVERY other fight in the promotion had to prove their worthiness…but not Brock. HMmmmm…..I wonder if his popularity form the WWE had something to do with it?
“Then….he went and proved himself.”
Really, becuase I saw that as soon as they couldn’t hand pick their opponents that Brock failed miserably. Carwin (who actually was hand picked and undeserving of a title shot but got one because of his size compared to Brock) pummeled Brock to a10-8 and then because HE fucked up Brock got a win. And Cain…well we all saw how far Brock is behind the elite talent in the sport. Cain whipped his as in every aspect of the sport in one single round. Brock should quit now.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
No it’s not. Since when does a guy get a title shot when it’s his third MMA fight, lost 1 of them, and then beat two sub standard fighters. IT IS THE EASIEST PATH IN HISTORY.
Without looking it up, didnt Randy get a shot in the same amount of fights?
1-1 in the UFC. Hmmm…would his WWE popularity have something to do with it? I think so. But you can convince me if you can name anybody else who got a title shot that fast after being 1-1.
I acknowledge that in my post. Is there anyone who doesnt? really?
Was his popularity from WWE, an addition? of course, but he came in with LEGITIMATE skills and a LEGITIMATE background, better than MOST guys come in with.
What planet are you on
That was in response to “better than most guys come in with.” If you think his background (NCAA div 1 champion) isnt better than what most guys come in with, you’re delusional.
Carwin (who actually was hand picked and undeserving of a title shot but got one because of his size compared to Brock) pummeled Brock to a10-8 and then because HE fucked up Brock got a win. And Cain…well we all saw how far Brock is behind the elite talent in the sport. Cain whipped his as in every aspect of the sport in one single round. Brock should quit now.
Carwin was undefeated, all first round stoppages, vast majority by KO, and also a background in college wrestling. If you think he was handpicked," for a Lesnar win, then you had zero knowledge of him before the fight. Brock has alot to work, but as i already said THAT is a different conversation, and not the original we started on. Brock doesnt like to get hit and HAS to be the bully. Fortunately, he CAN be in most match-ups
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Don't waste your time Cali, Striker is just a blind hater.
He will hold on to the WWE thing even though everyone here and most educated people understand the WWE has nothing to do with why he regarded as one of the best HW’s in the world.
hate = ignorance and when Striekr speaks of Brock he is very ignorant Cali.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
“Without looking it up, didnt Randy get a shot in the same amount of fights?”
Randy got it after 3 UFC figths and he beat the promotions top contendor to do it. Also the UFC was thin then. There were plenty of guys to get the title shot when Randy returned from acting…like the interim champ…duh.
“I acknowledge that in my post. Is there anyone who doesnt? really?”
Puck doesn’t…he said Brock got his ttitle shot based on his uh “talent”.
“If you think his background (NCAA div 1 champion) isnt better than what most guys come in with, you’re delusional.”
Try again…almost every guy in the UFC has mulitple fights and a solid record when they come in to the UFC.
“Carwin was undefeated…then you had zero knowledge of him before the fight.”
Against guys like Neil Wane and GG (who is not out of the UFC) when he got the title fight. They pulled him out of a Cain contendor fight. ANd the Mir fight only happened because Brock ate buckshot out of a watermelon. Mir suck anyway. Brett Rogers was undefeated hen he fought Fedor…most by KO…but he was a can right? But Carwin is legit…okaaay. You can try like puck to say I don;t have MMA knowledge but I know more than most and enjoy MMA as much as anyone. You can disagree with me but I know my shit and I can debate it.
" Brock has alot to work, but as i already said THAT is a different conversation, and not the original we started on. Brock doesnt like to get hit and HAS to be the bully. Fortunately, he CAN be in most match-ups"
Correct…totally different topic…but I don;t think he can bully people anymore…the secrets are out.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
uck doesn’t…he said Brock got his ttitle shot based on his uh "talent".
The popularity was a contributing factor. NOT the sole factor by any stretch of the imagination, and definitely not the sole factor.
Try again…almost every guy in the UFC has mulitple fights and a solid record when they come in to the UFC.
Luckily i said background and not experience. How many guys come in with such a high level in one of the martial arts? specifically the most dominant one?
Against guys like Neil Wane and GG (who is not out of the UFC) when he got the title fight. They pulled him out of a Cain contendor fight. ANd the Mir fight only happened because Brock ate buckshot out of a watermelon. Mir suck anyway. Brett Rogers was undefeated hen he fought Fedor…most by KO…but he was a can right? But Carwin is legit…okaaay. You can try like puck to say I don;t have MMA knowledge but I know more than most and enjoy MMA as m
I said nothing about fedor. WHy does everything have to turn into Brock/Fedor? But since you had to bring it up (it’s okay, you’ve been conditioned to) i would say Carwin smashes Rogers, no questions asked.
Also, I said you must have had no knowledge on Carwin and his abilities, NOT mma as a whole. Don’t broaden my statement, you know i know that you know (keep following, lol) your shit. I wouldnt allude to that, i was being specific.
Correct…totally different topic…but I don;t think he can bully people anymore…the secrets are out.
He’s lost some aura, but if they cant stop him, knowing the secret means nothing, and i think most cannot capitalize.
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
“The popularity was a contributing factor. NOT the sole factor by any stretch of the imagination, and definitely not the sole factor.”
Right, because being 1-1 in the UFC and the win being Herring, yeh, that warrants a title shot…NOT. It was TOTALLY on Brocks ability to sell PPVs. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
Luckily i said background and not experience. How many guys come in with such a high level in one of the martial arts? specifically the most dominant one?
Backpedal much? Even the BJJ champions, K1 elite, and other NCAA champs have had to “break their cherry” in the smaller promos. That’s how it works. Except for guys with a WWE fanbase. Forget trying to say he got a title shot after 2 UFC fights (where he lost one) because of his wrestling pedigree. By that rationale…any olympic wrestler can get a title shot after going 1-1? No…it’s the WWE fanbase.
“I said nothing about fedor. WHy does everything have to turn into Brock/Fedor?”
All I was saying is that Brock gets by carwin who has done nothing more that what Rogers has done. And it was a triumph for the Brocksuckers…LOL. But when Fedor almost took Roger’s head off…he was a can anyway, right? Just illustrating that Brock get the benefit of every double standard out there.
“Also, I said you must have had no knowledge on Carwin and his abilities, NOT mma as a whole.”
I have the same information about Carwin as you do. And I am sorry. He beat Neil Wane, then GG (already out of the UFC) and Mir (6-5). He didn;t exactly earn a title shot. I know he was an NCAA champ as well and was KTFO all the chumps he faced but there were more deserving contenders…he was hand picked becuas ehe has quick KO’s and was Brocks size. Dana wanted to shut up all the people saying Brock was only winning due to size. Well, he showed Brok “talents” in that fight alright. And that Carwin was never ready to fight a 2 round fight ever.
“i think most cannot capitalize.”
But Randy stuffed his TD and he was 60 lbs lighter. Anybody with a wrestling background (Randy, Carwin, and Cain) have stopped his TD. Herring (who lost to O’Brien’s wrestling and wouldn’t follow a KO’d NOG to the ground didnt…I wonder why they matched him up with Brock? Hmmmmmm?) and Mir…who was too stupid to avoid the TD suffered from his own pride.
Bottom line…no more bullying, stuff the TD, and throw hard punches…why owuld anybody scheduled to fight him do anything else. Mir wont do that but everybody else knows how to stop the Albino turtle.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
“Don’t waste your time Cali, Striker is just a blind hater.”
And Puck’s opinion doesn’t matter because he is a blind lover of Brock. You see Puck, I will respond that way EVERY SINGLE TIME. It’s all I have to do to respond to you…I love how you have run out of logic and hype and BS so you you’re only debating technique is to say you’re ablind hater.
Puck: 2+2=5
Me: No, 2+2=4
Puck: No way dude, Dana told me it’s 5
Me: No dude, use your brain and think it through the info is out there…it’s 4
Puck: You’re just a 5 hater.
" He will hold on to the WWE thing…"
The thread topic is WWE, fool. ANd Dana brought up blurring the line…which he did even though he doesn’t want to.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Back to Trolldave I see
I wonder why Striekr is the only one hating hmmm?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
2 people wrong don;t make it right.
I get more comments about how much people agree with me and that they just like to argue with the invalid Brocksuckers that anything else. I guess I have the flaa of being willing to argue with you brocksucker jackoffs but at least I am right. Hmmmm.
You are arguing for someone that just got destroyed in consecutive fights…Hmmmm
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
oh come on now dave
you argue for a can killing, mid tier losing, M-1 puppet. (;
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
The GOAT…but keep arguing for a guy who turtles, really only beats cans, has no excuse for getting beaten that bad. Kongo, Rothwell, and Stojnic all did better against Cain.
I will continue to argue that the GOAT is still valid even though he doesn’t do what fanboys cry about. And you keep cheering for guys who get out preformed by Kongo against like opponents.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
are you really going to compare against like opponents?
lets compare how fedor against werdum, and how others did against werdum.
LOL
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 10, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough...
Lets just look at Brock preformance against Cain, Carwin, and Mir.
Not impressed.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
time will tell.
I never thought Cain would beat Brock in the fashion he did, but i would pick Carwin in a rematch.
I was very impressed when Brock came in, GREEN (still is), and beat vets and champs like Mir, Herring, and Couture. Like the guy or not, that is rather impressive…i think. At first, i thought the Carwin fight showed his heart, a true champ, but as it comes out, he just doesnt like to get hit. He has the athletic skills but not the “fighter edge,” if you will. I just think MOST of the division can’t handle him.
Who else would you pick against him? Not setting you up, serious question. Kongo? no. Mir? no. NOG? no. Stuve? lol i don’t think anyone else in the UFC has a decent shot at a W.
I think either NOG or Nelson makes sense for next fight.
As for Fedor, forgoe an immediate with Werdum, and book Overeem…..please!
Ill keep track myself.
For TUF i would have went 3/6
I stand at 83 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 11, 2010 4:23 AM EST up reply actions
“I was very impressed when Brock came in, GREEN (still is), and beat vets and champs like Mir, Herring, and Couture. Like the guy or not, that is rather impressive…i think.”
Well I am not impressed. I think most HW’s in the UFC and in SF would be 2-1 over that same stretch.
“As for Fedor, forgoe an immediate with Werdum, and book Overeem…..please!”
Thank you…I agree. After The Reems K1 GP victory it would be a super fight. Historical approaching Fedor and Crocop.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Fucking laughable that you say Brock is beating cans.
Fedor has over 25 cans on his resume. Fedor is the reason the name “cans” was ever even invented.
Okay...
Right and I am going to ask you the same question as always… Who has fought a better set of opponents in their career and has his record?
While I am waiting for you to dodge that question again I will restate that I think Brock had hand picked opponents and that I believe there are no less than 20 HWs that would have the same record or better than Brock’s over the same stretch. When you look at it in that context you can see that it’s pretty apparent that his “accomplishments” were doable be myriad HWs and that he has only fought and been successful against over the hill opponents and cans.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
brcok is popular because he's brock
when he entered wwe he was a huge deal because of his size, they pushed him and pushed him on his amatuer wrestling background when he came in, that and his size. same thing the ufc did, his amatuer wrestling and his size, how many times did we have to listen to joe rogan piss himself about his lunch box hands and his xxxxl gloves, the white gorilla.
i don’t even think brock got fast tracked. as far as i remember, there wasn’t much of a heavy weight division when he entered. then they had the four man heavyweight race for the belt with the only somewhat legit 4 heavyweights they had(one included old man randy who really is a 205 fighter). brock showed he deserved the belt at the time
and ufc not only hired kimbo, i remember watching a ufc fight with “sean the cop who beat kimbo” i think it was his name, they billed him as the only guy to beat kimbo in a street fight. but it’s not really blurring the lines, it’s an occasional gimmic, maybe, but no one is having a casket match, and the gimmics are usually a lesson, a lesson to disprove the myth that mma is still a sport where anyone can come from the bar, stand in the cage and win a fight.
so you;re talking about the degree of blur...
But the line IS still blurred. Period.
You may have more knowledge about the difference between MMA, WWE, and street fighting but someone who doesn’t follow the three can easily see how similar they look and confuse them.
Dana didn’t help the sport long term for the short term dollars. After Brock drops his next couple the side show ill be over and we can go back to it being a sport on the rise instead of a joke that it was Brock as a champ.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
i don't think there's a degree of blur between wwe and mma
i do agree there’s a degree of blur between razzle dazzle and above board sportsmanship. but i think it’s on the whole, in the ufc’s case, a benefit to the company. and people maybe, could see how similar in aspect it could be to a fla out show biz organisation. which is why we point out how it isn’t fake, not agree.
there’s not really much in combat sports and fake combat sports where you can stray from a tried and true beaten path, put on shows, market company, promote stars, make new stars push stars to gain intrest. if there are any similairty it’s because that’s the only way to do it. but to equate a similar business strategy to a showbiz faked company is ridiculous. we’re not seeing randy having his 5th marriage inside the octagon at ufc 150 and we’re not seeing anyone hang the ufc middlewieght belt from the ceiling by a wire while anderson silva tries to grab for it
Even WWE fans and critics realize the man is a great athlete it's only haters that are saying his WWE is all fans see?
Your entire statement above is retarded your saying people can’t understand the difference between fake wrestling and real fighting? Are americans really that stupid? No I don’t think so Striker every educated person understand Brock athletic ability and wrestling back ground is why he is doing well in MMA. Your just hating and it’s obvious Striker I don’t see anyone say Batista is going to be a beast in SF do you? Sorry let me rephrase that “any educated person saying….” No not really but why is that Striker? good try though.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Puck...you idiot...
Thats not all I see…but I do believe that someone who doesn’t know MMA will stumble on a Brock fight on SPike and think it’s fake wrestling.
All you have is the hype that Dana forced down your throat…with his balls.
“Are americans really that stupid? No I don’t think so Striker”
Thats an opinion not a fact…you have nothing to back it up. AGAIN.
“wrestling back ground is why he is doing well in MMA.”
Doing so well? He just got his ass whooped two times in a row…He beat an old, undersized guy in a gift matchup, beat Herring (just like O"Brien did) and has a SPLIT with Mir. I BELIEVE EVERY OTHER HW IN THE DIVISION GET THE SAME OUTCOME IN THOSE SAME FIGHTS AT THE SAME TIME.
“Your just hating and it’s obvious Striker’
And your licking his viking balls is obvious.
“I don’t see anyone say Batista is going to be a beast in SF do you? Sorry let me rephrase that "any educated person saying…." No not really but why is that Striker? good try though.”
LOL…nice try….allow me to retort before you claim victory idiot…Nobody thinks the Pro wrestlers stand a chance against legit MMAists because of Brocks failures…now people know being pumped up and talking trash doesn’t win you fights. Even with Brock’s wrestling pedigree, there is no excuse for being as bad as he is at striking and transistions. His chin is a joke as is his heart. THAT’s WHY NOBODY IS PUTTING STOCK IN LASHLEY AND BAUSISTA.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
You realize how retarded you sound Striker?
but I do believe that someone who doesn’t know MMA will stumble on a Brock fight on SPike and think it’s fake wrestling.
I think your wrong
"Are americans really that stupid? No I don’t think so Striker"
Thats an opinion not a fact…you have nothing to back it up. AGAIN
As are all your opions here whats your point. You are impying anything you said here is a fact? LOL
Yes Brock got his ass wooped agaisnt a great fighter maybe the best HW in MMA today(in many peoples opinions he is) Brock has been a one diminsional figher and if he wants to make another run at the belt he needs to improve his striking big time to have a cahnce against Cain. With saying that there are only two wrestlers tha tI see being able to hold off Brocks takedowns and having a good enough striking to expose Brocks weakness and that is Cain and Carwin other than that I don’t see anyone stopping Brocks offence. Infact Mir might have a better chance at beating Cain than Brock?
His chin is a joke LOL now your bing a total troll!! Yeah he jsut took Carwin strieks and Cain strikes and was not knocked out but his chin is is a joke LOL
Your a joke Striker when talkign about Brock i’m still laughing at your ignorant hate LOL
THAT’s WHY NOBODY IS PUTTING STOCK IN LASHLEY AND BAUSISTA.
No thats just you Striker
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
“I think your wrong”
Okay…I think you are wrong.
“As are all your opions here whats your point. You are impying anything you said here is a fact? LOL”
So why are you claiming that your opinion is fact?
And lastly…
Puck: " I don’t see anyone say Batista is going to be a beast in SF do you?"
Me: “THAT’s WHY NOBODY IS PUTTING STOCK IN LASHLEY AND BAUSISTA.”
Puck: “No thats just you Striker”
You pathological fucktard. Do you even understand what you are saying?
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Before I go
THAT’s WHY NOBODY IS PUTTING STOCK IN LASHLEY AND BAUSISTA."
Your implying that fans are not putiing stock into Batista and lashley?
I’m saying that is just you when most fans don’t put stock into Batista becasue in reality he doesn’t have the real wrestling background and before Brock ever lsot to Cain lashley was doubted as well
Anyway it’s past five and I’m thirsty so piece out
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
“Your implying that fans are not putiing stock into Batista and lashley? "
No I am saying it straight up.
"" I don’t see anyone say Batista is going to be a beast in SF do you?"..by Puck
Sounds like you are neither are you fucktard.
The WWE wave turned out to be a ripple.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Why even mention LAshley and Batista when talking about Brock?
What the fuck does Bautista have to do with Brock? Dave didn’t wrestle or do shit leading up to SF signing him.
I may be wrong but I haev been told that Bastista and lashley were in the WWE before the noodled with MMA…just like Brock.
But if Brock is the best of the lot then it just proves that WWE has no place in MMA. Brock got CLOWNED my a real MMAist.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Well the point is too at the time Brock entered
Cain and Carwin were both climbing the ladder and neither wanted to jump to face title contenders they wanted to go through the ranks were Brock wanted to face potential contenders off the go. The UFC gave him a chance because of his freak athletica bility and back ground in College wrestling. The UFC would of never gave Batista or Lashley as shot like Brock. Brock is a one of a kind freak and he proved he deserved to start were he did but I think Cain going through the ranks allowed him to develop into a better all around fighter as Brock had to rely on just on mainlt one phase of MMA and when they collided Cains longer road to the belt paid off? Either way Brock is still one of the best HW’s in the UFC #2 or #3 right now and really that is still an amazing accomplishment for only having 6 UFC fights. You can hate all you want but you sound foolish cutting one of the best HW’s in the world down. Yes cain has proved to be a better fighter and losing to Cain is no reason to hang your head he may be the best in the world!
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
“he UFC gave him a chance because of his freak athletica bility and back ground in College wrestling.”
Now who’s lying? Randy asked for Brock because he got a % of the PPV and with his NAME he stood to earn bucks. Forget that the champ is supposed to fight the interim champ upon his return or that Brock’s only win was a non finish against Herring. Sorry puck, Brock got the Randy fight because it would earn Randy the UFC (and Randy) cash. Jake O’Brien did the exact same thing to Herring…did he get a title shot? No He appeared juts as athletic in his lay n pray win over Herring.
STOP TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY.
You are living in an alternate reality if you think Brock got the fight with Randy based on MMA merit after losing to Mir and getting by Hering. LOL. You really are delusional.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
no one is trying to rewrite history
brock got the fight so fast in my mind because of the competition and lack of it. randy asked for brock as randy asked for toney, brock took it, brock won, brock beat mir, brock beat carwin. you can’t argue about what the ufc did with brock when he proved them right at each step. you could maybe argue against his push for the belt if he never won it and never defended it but he did.
do i think the ufc is a little more fan pleasing showbiz at times? yes, but it has to be to get to main stream. does it sometimes try to engineer stars? yes, does it fall flat on it’s face doing that? yes sometimes. the ufc is a company and does what companies do, tries to be succesful, but is it fake? no, is it the wwe? no, is it even strke force? no. and having said that i can’t fault stike force for some of it’s questionable decisicions either. both companes are trying to make mma huge, which should make us all happy. but if it’s a choice between a draw getting the title shot or someone like, say, fitch, who everyone grumbles about as boring, then i’d hope for the draw everytime. just because someone may deserve a shot, doesn’t mean they deserve to be a ppv main event. call it show biz. but one boring card and everyone hates on the dana, one drawn out decision and everyone hates on the dana. put an exciting draw of an athelete in who may be premature but who everyone wants to see, and people hate on the dana, if everyone is going to hate on dana anyway, i’d rather he puts on big name cards
Striker is jsut a Brock hater
it’s funny only the haters bring up the WWE becasue thats all they got.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i know. i mean as i've stated many times
they could hate on because of his genetic misgivings, what with him being created when his mother beng raped by an ape, he is the orangutard
See the language you use…
“Striker is jsut a Brock hater’”
And puck is just a brock dick sucker…in his eyes Brock won the Cain fight…he even said it wouldn’t be the same outcome above…LOL. You do exactly what you say I am doing…you are just blindly loving on him becasue he’s pumped up and has attitude. Lame.
and again…
“’It’s funny only the haters bring up the WWE becasue thats all they got.”
No I have he Cain fight, and really Brock fightography to prove he was over rated. I have history and time lines to illustrate that Brock got opportunities other legit fighters dont get, I have the intelligence to see that Brock was always over rated.
All the Brocksuckers have is the hype that Dana spoon feed them. Senseless zombies that like the big muscle guy smashing things. Too bad he turlted up like abotch his last TWO fights and showed he is mid level at best.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Your just mad he's ranked higher than Fedor Striker
brocks talents are undeniable but Cain and Carwin have exposed a huge weakness in Brocks game the problem is who has the ability to stop Brock from doing what he wants to do to be able to test this weakness besides Cain and Carwin? That will be the question and if he takes a few hard shots how will Brock react in the future?
Your just hating Brock can beat 95% of the HW’s in the world and your trying to say he sucks LOL you realize how ignorant you sound?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
No I'm not.
I know that Fedor clowns Brock in a fight.
" brocks talents are undeniable"
A one trick pony.
“Cain and Carwin have exposed a huge weakness in Brocks game the problem is who has the ability to stop Brock from doing what he wants to do to be able to test this weakness besides Cain and Carwin?’
JDS, I think Nelson beats him, maybe Brock, and maybe even Mir in a rematch.But after Cain, Carwin, and JDS the best Brock can hope for is 4th place. Jay said it best, Nothing wrong with being the Arizone Diamondbacks of the UFC HW division.” When you add in the guys in SF (Fedor, Overeem, Werdum, Barnett, Rogers, and AA…I have Brock at number 10…in the weakest division in the world. But keep jacking off to Brocks current ranking….it will go down and all other will go up. Face it, you have been talking so much shit about someone that simply has only one tool in the toolbox and that has been stopped easily in the Rndy, Carwin, and Cain fights. Only Mir and Herring couldnt stop Brock takedowns and lnp…shocking.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
I know that Fedor clowns Brock in a fight.
Thats not a fact thats an opinion and if a tireman can take down Fedor my opinion is Brock should have little problem. BUT ONCE AGAIN YOUR MAKING A FACT OUT OF AN OPINION LOL
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I know it's not fact...
But neither is
“Brock can beat 95% of the HW’s in the world”
" Brock is still on 99% of anyones top ten HW’s list at least and in the top five consensus"
I didn’t say it was FACT…you said I was claiming it was. ANd I love the language you use…you’re making a fact out of an opinion. Odd as that’s what you do.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Fact: Brock IS ranked second in HW rankings.
Fact: He’s got the tools to beat 95% of the HW’s in the world.
I like how SD is sooo sure that Brock wouldn't beat Cain in a rematch
And tries to tell us that Brock would lose to Carwin in a rematch. Carwin hasn’t even rolled since he lost. HE’s gonna have worse cardio after laying around with a back surgery. You’re a blind hater and an idiot (most of the time).
Right...
I like how SD is sooo sure that Brock wouldn’t beat Cain in a rematch
Right, because there are so many indicators that Brock would do bettera second time. You see, rematches are for close victories, controversy, or when the division is cleaned out and the loser of the original fight works his way back up. Sorry But Brock got clowned in every aspect of the game in 1 single round. He has nothing for Cain and will NEVER see the title again. I will bet you $1000 against $100 that Brock loses a rematch to Cain. Just for you Jay.
I agree Carwin’s back surgery makes a rematch less predictable but thats how Dana likes his Brock matches…slanted in his favor.
“You’re a blind hater …”
Nope an enlightened hater…you on the other hand are a blind dicksucker.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
SURE I CAN....
“randy asked for brock”
Since when do champs get to name thier opponents? Especially when there is an interim champ.
“brock beat mir”
And that fight only happened due to Mir winning the staph sweepstakes against Nog. There is a reason that fight was scheduled for a rematch.
“you can’t argue about what the ufc did with brock when he proved them right at each step.”
No he didn’t.
Mir 1 Ooops
Herring – Handpicked
Randy – Money grab that was against someone who had previously left the HW for being undesizes
Mir2 _ Mir sucks anyway, 6-5 over his last 11, hardly unbeatable, one of the wins was Brock and his biggest legit win was against…Kongo I think.
Carwin– Make my point about Borcks lack of ability, he got bailed out by Carwins rookie move
Cain- Proves that Brock was never that good and is far behind the leaders of the pack
“do i think the ufc is a little more fan pleasing showbiz at times? yes, but it has to be to get to main stream.”
No…MMA is great enough sport that it can rise fast without the Brocks and kimbos. Forrest and Bonnar may be the least charasmatic people out there and the promo was built on them.
“Does it sometimes try to engineer stars? yes, does it fall flat on it’s face doing that? yes sometimes.”
I agree. But why not just not do that. Yes the short term cash is nice but MMA as a whole took a hit.
" is it the wwe? no,"
WTF? IS fake.
" but if it’s a choice between a draw getting the title shot or someone like, say, fitch, who everyone grumbles about as boring"
Thats how sports work. You don;t change the lineup if it’s boring. There was stretch when TAmps and the Ravens and the first Patriots team were all defensive based teams that focused on ball control. Many thought it was boring. But did the NFL pull of those teams for a more offensive team to be in the superbowl…NO. I like watching Fitch fight. Defensive games are apart of any sport.
“i’d rather he puts on big name cards”
I’d rathe the put legit names on the cards.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Just becasue you make a long statement doesn't prove anything Striker
Brock is still on 99% of anyones top ten HW’s list at least and in the top five consensus just because you hate him and make long BS statemetns doesn’t prove anything but your a hater. Just admit it your opionn of Brock is just ignorant hate we all know it you just have to admit it and we can move on.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Just becuase you make stupid one liners doesn't mean you are right.
I back up my statements with explanations. But I love that it’s all you see…long statements…LOL.
No matter…I am right and you were always wrong about him. Period. You ignorant love for him is way worse that my rational explanation of why I know Brock was always over rated.
HAHA.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Your statement is all ignorant hate and I heard it all.
I’m still laughing at your comment that Brocks chin is a joke LOL Neither Cain or Carwin was able to KO Brock and his chin is a joke LOL
Your funny Striekr I’ll give you that. But when it comes to Brock Striker your nothing but a Troll.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Your statement is all ignorant man love and I heard it all.
" I’m still laughing at your comment that Brocks chin is a joke"
I’m still laughing that you think Brock has a good chin. Then again you are the guy that said Crocop is the best grappler that Fedor ever faced….LOL. Keep talking. You are proving me to be the rational one…you to be the pathological liar.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
How does Brock not have a good chin?
How many people do you think can take a solid shot from Carwin and not go out cold? See, you are pulling me into this damn argument again. Stop It!!!!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."-Albert Einstein
Thats not what a good chin means...
It’s more general…Brock turtled up when he got touched by Carwin and then the trend continued against Cain.
When Cain got hit square my Kongo he was shooting 1 second later. Brock was collapsing or break dancing 1 second later.
So no, I don’t think Brock has a solid chin… hard to put to sleep, yes, easy to dominate after he gets touched yes.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Right...
I guess when Cain gets rocked and is impossing his will 1 second later, he has a week chin.
Brock break dances and turtles but he has a solid chin.
LOL…delusional fanboy.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Not sure if you know what having a good chin entails...
But he’s never been asleep. And that’s after taking 150 unanswered blows from Cain and Carwin. Yeah, his chin is weak. Get the fuck outta here.
“And that’s after taking 150 unanswered blows from Cain and Carwin. "
I guess your right Brock is great becuas ehe allowed 150 unanswered blows…LOL
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Not the point I was making.
I said he has a good chin. You don’t have to be good defensively to have a good set of whiskers.
Funny that you are ALWAYS right about Brock
Yet couldn’t call a single fight of his right until the Cain fight. Yeah you’re always fucking right Dave. Suck a dick fag.
Weird I called...
only 2 fights…
Carwin and Cain
Right about Cain.
And I guess I was wrong about Carwin. He clowned Brock but then gassed. I guess I put too much stock in a guy that cant fight into the second round. But thats how Brock wins.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
oooooooooooh ok
so you’re not actually arguing that the ufc is the wwe, you’re complainging because a fighter you don’t like beat a champion…and this fighter you don’t like got beat and lost his belt…so what exctly are you complaining about again?
Anyway guys I'm out of here, it's Frida yand I'm thirsty work was retarded this week.
PS Striker stop being such a hater and enjoy one of the best HW’s in the world do wha the does, because that what millions of fans are doing. brock is great for MMA even Fedor respects Brock!! I’ll get you the link another time.
Happy Friday maybe see you on here later.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
“you’re complainging because a fighter you don’t like beat a champion…and this fighter you don’t like got beat and lost his belt…so what exctly are you complaining about again?”
I am complaining that it ever happened. Am I not allowed to share an opinion?
Brock slowed the progression of the sport of MMA that I love and think could be bigger and better. It’s an MMA forum I am allowed to state why i think a certain way.
I didn’t always hate Brock…just the hype he got. He really nothing more than a LAshley…Lashley just took the legit route…even he says he should have done what Brock did and take the easy fights. Brock earned the hate by beleiving his own hype. Just like many of you fools did. Now that I am vindicated I get to give it you guys just like you were after the carwin fight…even thought hat was a joke outcome.
"I pity any fool that dares to stand toe to toe with Rampage"
Wrong, idiot.
Randy – Money grab that was against someone who had previously left the HW for being undesizes
He’d left the HW division and came back to win the belt against Timmy (one of the guys you like to brag about Fedor beating) and GG. He was still a HW when he fought Brock. And 2 months before he fought Brock he was trying to sign a contract to fight Fedor. Let me guess, if Randy had been given permission to fight Fedor he would have been a legit HW, right? Fuck you’re so annoying.
Losing to Cain does not make one "behind the leaders of the pack"
Who has beaten Cain? Nobody you piece of shit. Losing to Cain only proves Cain is better. Fuck you’re a goof.
brock
Since when are mir,randy,heath and carwin easy fights? I watched randy beat tim silvia and gonzaga(just to mention two heavy guys). Noone had ever made it out of the first round with carwin. And mir is no slouch.
So in your book who do you have to fight to earn your real stripes? The terminator? godzilla? a bear? an m1a1 tank? chuck norris?
Even if you say those guys are easy fights for brock,in that same sentence you are admitting that hes better than a lot of the other heavyweights.
I agree on a lot of the points you guys make,but i dont see how you guys can be so one sided
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