Todd Duffee has turned down offers from both Bellator and Strikeforce, according to Josh Gross. Apparently, he was offered a fight with Antonio Silva at the upcoming "Henderson vs Babalu" event and decided not to take it.
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That is so stupid if it's true...
so he’s not in the UFC anymore but Big Foot would have been the biggest name he’s faced. It’s not like he beat any top UFC guys yet so what a dumb move…. if it’s true.
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!
Ooops...
didn’t realise the fight was this close… still think it couldn’t hurt. Look at the respect Brills got for fighting Lil Nog.
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!
Or two losses in a row plus.......you guys forget
They’re both ATT…..of course he’s not gonna fight Big foot.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 1, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
I am pretty sure he trains at Ex Couture NNR
Just remember an interview in FO mag where he was saying he steals Forrests kit all the time.
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by Nick-J on Dec 1, 2010 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The 2 losses in a row...
wouldn’t be the problem. What’s gonna happen, he’ll get cut? lol
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a roided Chael Sonnen but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't an MMA dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the P4P best is!
Couldn't have summed it up better myself.
Cant imagine what this kid is thinking. maybe he thinks he’s going to get another shot at the UFC w/o having to fight???
"Remember that shit I gave you last week nigga? It's nothing nigga, it's nothin', it's nothing nigga, nigga it's nothing. This shit right here, nigga! This shit right here nigga, right here this shit nigga! This shit right here nigga!....This shit called deaf nigga!"
"That don't even sound attractive, you mean Ima hit it and die nigga?"
"Naw nigga, not death nigga, nigga DEAF! You hit this shit twice, you can't hear nothin'"
he's not planning to fight in January or anything...
It’s like you guys don’t read the sources here…
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Because of the same “smug” attitude messages like this carry. There are alot of great posters on both sites unfortunately we both fail to realize that we are just different type of fans. The guys at BE take things more serious then we do here at Mania. We like to have more fun, definately more free to say whatever we want without restriction and that is just the way it is.
So understand when you come here we aren’t going to be like BE where it seems you usually post at. But still there is no reason to come here and make comments like this because we are going to feel belittled thus prompting us to stray from MMA and instead argue over nonsense.
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 1, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Agree to an extent.
BE is concerned with sources and being right. I saw it in the editors, the mods and the regulars at BE. What is lost in this is that the sources that Mr. Treese is talking about are filled with conjesture and suppositions. It is rumored that Duffee is fighting in January for a smaller org. There have been no announcements from Cox (who really is a good manager and would announce this if it was fact), so it is speculation.
I outlined the pros and the cons below, and it seems to me that Duffee only wants fights he can win. He (or Cox, who has a boxing background) is trying to fight easy fights because he likes to win or he has no confidence after being laid out.
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doesnt give me a sense of security based on some of his past decisions. But I agree with you. We are just two different sites with two different types of posters.
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 1, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
BE is a communist site
The editors can say what they want but will kick you out for saying the exact same thing. Ask kevin and many other posters here about BE aka bloodytwat.
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I dont mind them at all. But its just a different place. I like Leland’s series of best prospects from each weight class. I think Snowden puts up nice interview pieces and Kid Nate does very good technique pieces but its their opinion pieces that arent for everyone.
But thats what is great about SBnation… theres a place for everyone it seems
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 1, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Plus we like women here on Mania.
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Lol.
Ive never seen ass threads on BE so yeah I would have to say you got it right there.
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 1, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
i believe you are right, and that looks like Mike Whitehead in his corner
Who trains at X Couture as well.
by WallyBallz on Dec 1, 2010 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the difference is
brilz “won” even if the judges didnt say so…if duffee fought silva and got destroyed he wouldnt get the same respect
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
But his point is still valid.
Brillz was impressive and arguably should have earned the decision in that fight. Had he gotten submitted or knocked out in the first round no one would have been impressed that he took the fight on short notice.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Can't blame a rookie for not takin' on Bigfoot on short notice.
He’d just have gotten KOd again.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
hmmm
This kid doesn’t want to be a fighter..
by meed55 on Nov 30, 2010 9:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
then why is he fighting in January?
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
If this is true hes even more of a pussy then i thought
Talking all that shit that HWs outside of the UFC are crap blah blah then turns down a fight with BigFoot eh what a homo! Wouldve been awesome to see him get smashed in under a minute.
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by clover_black on Nov 30, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
They're both ATT Khaos.....
not fighting teammates.
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If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 1, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
But they're both managed by Davis.
I don’t know why they would fight each other after years of friendship as well as the strange managerial relationship.
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If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
yeah another reason for him to decline the fight
here’s the article on Silva leaving ATT, seems to have happened in May
http://mmahits.com/news/cane-aurelio-and-silva-leave-american-top-team/
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NNR, I dont think Duffee is at ATT either now.
I remember reading when he got injured last year he was going back to college in Vegas and joined X Couture.
by WallyBallz on Dec 1, 2010 12:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe he really is going to the WWE
if hes not taking any fights maybe its cuz hes goin to the WWE
he's going to fight in January most likely...
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
he’s going to fight in January most likely…
Were’s are you getting your info from Tyler?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Josh Gross' twitter feed
the exact same place where Geno linked to as his source for this post =P
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I also gave him 3 blintzes to paint my fence
and he never did it!
Jon Jones LHW Champion 2011
Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011
Those blintzes were terrible
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Those blintzes were terrible lousy ;-)
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Lol close enough
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Haha the point was certainly made
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Those blintzes were terrible lousy ;-)
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Damn double posts.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Nah David is right (although TheGreg gets half points)
Grampa: I thought I recognized you. I gave you a plate of corn muffins
back in 1947 to paint my chicken coop. And you never did it.
Chester: Those corn muffins were lousy.
Grampa: Paint my fence!
Chester: Make me!
Krusty: I gave him a couple of blintzes to paint my fence, but he
never did it!
Chester: Those blintzes were terrible.
Krusty: Paint my fence!
Chester: Make me!
Krusty: [jumping on him] You give me back those blintzes!
Jon Jones LHW Champion 2011
Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011
Damn! I knew something was lousy . . .
. . . and nobody cares about your blintzes!
Congrats, David. We clashed horns on the field of battle and I was bested.
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WTF is a blintz?
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It's a Canadian football move . . .
when you have more pass rushers than available blockers in your quest to win the magical Grey Cup.
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Is he really? I haven’t heard anything since he was cut. What org? Who’s he fighting?
by meed55 on Nov 30, 2010 10:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Gross said he'd be fighting in a "smaller org" in January
Gross also believes that Duffee will sign with Strikeforce in 2011.
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
mike russow stepping in for mr olympia. lol.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 30, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions
The dudes a big bitch that thinks his shit don't stink.
He didn’t get cut from the UFC for nothing. The guy thinks he’s the greatest thing ever and is even turning stuff down from bellator.
I’ll see him fighting at my local rink in a few months for $700.
Sonnen and Bisping = Pillow hands. The KO power of a paraplegic.
Jake Shields is the abortion of MMA. GSP would murder that clown.
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What I'd like to know is...
Was he offered the Silva fight before Valentijn was?
If he was the first replacement option before Kyle, I can understand him turning it down. Silva’s strong as a bull, has a good ground game, and has really improved his boxing.
If he WAS the first choice to fight Bigfoot, he blew a hell of an opportunity.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
he was offered the fight as a late replacement
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
So, basically last week?
Makes sense. I just hope SF is still interested and he didn’t just shoot his career in the foot again.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
yeah a few days ago. I forget what day Overeem told SF he was off the card. Would’ve been between that date and yesterday.
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
So, basically last week?
Makes sense. I just hope SF is still interested and he didn’t just shoot his career in the foot again.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
Smart move if it was as a late replacement. He needs to build up his rep and stepping in late like that against a guy that would likely beat him won’t really help. I think he’d have a shot if he had a full camp against Silva, but he isn’t seasoned enough to step in so late against a mid-top tier opponent. He isn’t against Herschel Walker’s opponent remember.
Duffee would have been a fool to take this fight
Duffee gets cracked by Bigfoot in absolutely any scenario, full camp or not.
Silva is no joke, only the 4 best HWs in the UFC and the 4 best in SF would likely beat him in any event, and only perhaps JDS, Cain, Overeem and Fedor would have a good chance at beating him without a proper camp to prepare for him.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 1, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
i thought he was going back to college?
wasnt signing up for classes at UNLV? and he recently had a family death, i think his dad? who knows, I wish him the best, but sucks he couldnt fight silva, that woulda been a good one!!!
plus he made some cash in the UFC, so he’s sittin pretty $$$ him and nate both promote that 6 star nutrition
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yes his father passed away
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
i thought thats what i read b4
that couldve affected him :/
we all make mistakes in life, im sure hes humbled up a bit. maybe DW will give him another chance? either way, if he finished his school he’ll be fine. BIG man on campus, lol he’ll have a good time at UNLV, knowledge is power :)
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by jason*bourne on Nov 30, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
This guy's such a tool
Go get ko’d again.
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you can see his point not going to bellator
neil grove would have a freaking field day on him, not to mention cole and his wrestling.
i'd favor Konrad over Duffee atm but definitely not Neil Grove
Neil Grove will be 40 in a month and doesn’t really have any notable wins (unless you count Eddie Sanchez, James McSweeney & James Thompson as notable =P)
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by TylerTreese on Nov 30, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Bigfoot wud have killed him any way!
"Take what is mine, hold what is mine
Suffocate what is mine, bury what's mine
Soon the water will come
And claim what is mine
I must leave it behind
And climb to a new place now"-Flood
Smart
He probably just didn’t want to get tied up in a contract with either of the two companies because he truly and only wants to be in the ufc. If coker was smart enough and offered him that fight it for sure was a multi fight deal cause if duffe were to beat bigfoot that’s one top contender gone and a ufc reject who just got kod running through his “top” guys.
by foo819 on Nov 30, 2010 11:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Then why did he turn down Bellator?
Either he’s an idiot for turning down both organizations or he just has a terrible manager.
why would he sign with Bellator?
They have a bad reputation (look at the Dave Herman situation), restrictive contracts, no TV deal, are losing money with each event they put on and don’t have a deep HW roster.
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If Duffee Wants to Re Unite With The UFC
Then its smart to avoid Bellator and Strikeforce. However, with the cuts being more frequent in the UFC and the fighters from the WEC merging over I think Duffee should have joined Bellator for their second HW tourney so long as they secure a TV deal.
But then of course maybe he will be happy smashing guys at the regional level
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 1, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
you're very articulate and smart and know most about ufc
JD for the win.
Ill keep track myself.
For 123 i would have went 4/9.
I stand at 80 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Dec 1, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
He's the best. Im still filled with anticipation and glee to read the next installment of his wonderful poem series.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
He got kicked out of the UFC for having a bad attitude,
then he turns down the next two big name orgs??? He clearly isnt a fighter that wants to fight.
@Ulf Murphy: lose badly and not get a fight that he thinks is worth it to him? I honestly believe that he is not a position to be telling people whats up and picking his own fights. This guy is new, he lost to a deluxe king can, gets booted and now doesnt want to fight anywere else. He should take a fight on short notice just to get into another org, he clearly doesnt want to fight!
You hit my point, if I wasn't clear
He believes his worth to be greater than risking a loss to Bigfoot (goes back to your bad attitude point). There is no other reason for him to turn down this fight. Unless he believes he would get his ass handed to him.
Kos fought Alves on 14 days notice. Now he is fighting for the title.
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part of the problem is
Duffee couldn’t win this fight even with a full camp to prepare – he is not remotely on Silva’s level.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 1, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Does not matter. Upsets happen all the time. The reward far outweighs the risk.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'm not sure what the "reward"
of being on the wrong end of a completely one-sided fight would be, but IIRC Dana said that Duffee could get back in the UFC by fighting in “smaller leagues” or similar. Surely Duffee is well aware that Dana does not seem to look at all favorably on those who go to Strikeforce after being cut.
This is why “in the know” guys who want to get back to the UFC (like Jardine) take fights with smaller regional promotions.
Having said that, neither SF nor Bellator seem to be able to keep even their existing guys busy with fights, even though SF’s HW division easily rivals the UFC’s – if they could just figure out how to get the guys to fight.
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-Mark Twain
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by The American Ronin on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
"I'm not sure what the "reward" of being on the wrong end of a completely one-sided fight would be..."
Re-read my inital post to you. It should make sense to you assuming that you follow sports. I don’t think you need me to spell it out for you. And the rest of your response is filled with baseless speculation and debateable assumptions.
IE – "even though SF’s HW division easily rivals the UFC’s "
Really? Please enlighten me.
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by OJR on Dec 1, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, upsets happen all the time, but do you even really follow MMA. By that I mean have followed MMA closely for any length of time – and I don’t just mean the UFC? If you had, then you would know that Duffee is not remotely on Bigfoot’s level at this point in his career and that this would be a stupid fight for him to take.
Jon Jones, a far more capable fighter than Duffee, said he would have declined to fight Lil Nog on short notice had the fight actually been offered to him as was rumored at the time.
Moreover, comparing the issue of “upsets” in other sports to MMA is an auto fail when Duffee could really set his career back by receiving a one-sided beat down. Him taking this fight would have just provided more proof of his poor judgement.
As for the HW division comparison, the mix of Fedor, Overeem, Werdum and Barnett is the equal of Cain, JDS, Brock and Carwin – although I consider Cain the best of the lot right now.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 1, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
OK:
“Sure, upsets happen all the time, but do you even really follow MMA. By that I mean have followed MMA closely for any length of time – and I don’t just mean the UFC? If you had, then you would know that Duffee is not remotely on Bigfoot’s level at this point in his career and that this would be a stupid fight for him to take.”
You mean like Serra vs. GSP I?
Did anyone think that Serra at that point in his career would be a match for GSP or think that it was a stupid fight to take because he might lose?
Only losers think like that so you and Duffee must have alot in common.
“Jon Jones, a far more capable fighter than Duffee, said he would have declined to fight Lil Nog on short notice had the fight actually been offered to him as was rumored at the time.”
Jones is an accomplished star on the rise with the backing of the UFC.
Duffee is a nobody with zero marketing.
Reward outweighs risk for someone in Duffee’s situation.
Your example is an AUTO FAIL.
“Moreover, comparing the issue of "upsets" in other sports to MMA is an auto fail when Duffee could really set his career back by receiving a one-sided beat down. Him taking this fight would have just provided more proof of his poor judgement.”
You mean losing a fight to a fat can in Russow via KO did not set back his career?
Or getting released by the UFC because of attitude problems did not make it worse?
Is there some advantageous situation that Duffee is in right now as an MMA fighter that can afford him to pass up a decent challenge in BF?
Duffee taking the fight would prove that he is hungry and eager to redeem himself.
Your reasoning is stuck on AUTO FAIL.
Your sigs are a lesson in irony. Thanks for the laugh.
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by OJR on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Clearly you have your little mind made up about Duffee...
so any further attempts at pointing out your comprehension fails and showing you the errors of your thinking are pointless…may you fare well…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
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-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 1, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Reading this response left little doubt that you're primarily a BE poster.
I’m not sure if it was the arrogance or the smug sense of self-satisfaction. Whatever it was, have fun “winning” arguments on the internet.
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His last post was hysterical. He nothing left so he gives me the "intellectual brush off".
“May you fare well.”
Thanks, Yoda!
:)
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by OJR on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone with the arrogance to call themself a ronin is asking for a little abuse
Not suprising that the “mighty intellectual” ended your argument that way.
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