UFC Quick Quote: No immediate rematch planned for 'brilliant' Rampage Jackson and Lyoto Machida
by MMAmania.com on Nov 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST
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"No [when asked if a rematch was in store for Jackson and Machida]. As far as I’m concerned, and as far as the judges are concerned, Rampage won the fight.... [Machida] put on that burst [in the third round] where he landed five or six punches but there was no knockdown. You don’t win a fight by landing five or six punches. It’s a three round fight. You win two of the rounds, then you’re the winner.... Rampage fought a brilliant fight tonight. I loved the way that every time Machida would throw a leg kick — here’s the thing, if Rampage fights the way he usually does and Machida keeps throwing those leg kicks, Rampage wouldn’t have been able to walk after the second round. But every time Machida would throw that leg kick, Rampage would come forward and fire. When they would clinch, Rampage would do damage the entire time. I thought he fought a brilliant fight and the type of fight he had to against Machida."
-- UFC President Dana White tells the Las Vegas Sun that he has no interest in running back last night's UFC 123 main event between former light heavyweight champions Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Lyoto Machida. No time soon, anyway. Jackson -- who White feels won the first two rounds "100 percent" -- earned a split decision from two of the three judges sitting ringside, which appeared to catch him off guard when Bruce Buffer announced the result. He would later go onto explain that his reaction was caused by how the fight ended, which was basically him eating several Brazilian knuckle sandwiches. Those "five or six punches" clearly were not difference makers in the judges eyes ... nor White's. How about you -- did Machida win the fight or did they get this one right?
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Rounds 1 and 2
Were boring but Page was the aggressor and Machida looked tentitive. Throwing leg kicks without conviction aint shit even if they land. look at the fight after they showed. Now those were some Leg kicks. Machida needs to realize that style needs tweaking. He’s been figured out
agreed, his style is okay
he just needs a higher volume of strikes if hes gonna be constantly backing up like that
by xquisitewretch on Nov 21, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't think they were boring at all!
I was expecting Machida to run away and Rampage to hit nothing but air all night. When Rampage proved he could cut off the ring and close the distance, I knew we had a real fight on our hands and I was on the edge of my seat! Every time Page let his hands fly, the crowd at the bar I was at completely erupted! Nothing boring about that fight at all!
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
there was about a minute of page throwing his hands
and 14 minutes of them circling the cage
by xquisitewretch on Nov 21, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
you keep pushing your point.
but not offering anything constructive. Short of rampage having to run after lyoto and ending up eating counter attacks what was he supposed to do.
He went out there wanting to bang but couldnt so used a game plan that would get the win.
..and if you didnt get excited/hopefull when you saw ’page lock his arms to prevent the arm bar then lift lyoto.. then you are just either stone cold or uninterested. i was ready for that slam :D
and 14 minutes of them circling the cage
You mean Page stalking the Dragon? And thats why PAge won he was coming forward and clearly showing he was the aggressor but it takes two to fight. And when they did exchange it was a great battle! The reason Page can not lunge in and attack is because Machida has KO power and if you careless he will catch you and he nearly did in the third. How about the kick at the end of the second?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Let us Rampage fans have our glory!!
it’s been a while since we can have something positive to say and beating the dragon gives me hope that he still has the desire and passion to compete at the top!!
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Nov 21, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
have your glory beardy......
we all deserve it now and again…….
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Nov 21, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
This might teach Machida
Although I think he won, you can’t leave it to the judges especially if your backing off all the time.
I think if he keeps his current style there will be a lot of close decision wins or losses that people will believe were controversial. I’m not saying he should change his style all together but just be a little more aggressive in future
Anticipation has a habit to set you up for disappointment
Agreed
His inactivity in the first 2 rounds cost him. It’s laughable that a main event fight between 2 top contenders and former champions was decided on who was moving more aggressively. All that fight proved was that these 2 are going to be surpassed by the up and comers of the division like Bones, Bader and Davis. Neither man had a plan B and it took way too long for them to get going.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
its over, move on...
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions
Rampage won
He was the aggressor in rounds 1 and 2. Thank god the judges werent persuade by that last round or I would have lost my lunch money. I really believe machida has been exposed. All fighter from here on out should fight him aggressively in rounds 1 and 2 and lay off him in round three. Machidas style takes time and a three round fight is not sufficient for him to get his range.
by mmafanforlife on Nov 21, 2010 11:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Pride rules, Machida wins. UFC rules, Rampage wins.
In fighting and everyday life you should be determined, though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness, yet not recklessly; your spirit settled, yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak, and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.
Pretty much
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Pride rules rampage wins, ufc rules splits decisio
by mmafanforlife on Nov 21, 2010 11:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I doubt it
He had one flurry in rd 3 where he rocked Page, but no knockdown, Page fired back immediatley and got into the clinch, even a Pride judge wouldn’t give him the entire fight just because he landed one good shot.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah just that one flurry
I didn’t see the takedown, mount, ground and pound or submission attempts either. A Pride judge would have given the fight to Machida every time because he’s the only one who did any real offense in the fight, Rampage barely landed anything but got away with it because he did just a little more and looked more aggressive in the first 2 rounds. Neither man should be happy with that display though.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Pride rules Machida would have got the penalty card for lack of activity and purse deducted 1st 2 rounds
Rampage coming out to Pride music gave me some chills and almost pulled off one of his slams!
by Kayo on Nov 21, 2010 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True in Pride Machida would probably lose half his fights by penalty/point deduction
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Nov 21, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
If it was in Pride, Machida would've gotten a warning and then put an ass-whoppin on Page.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Yea like he put an ass woopin on him last night...
right..
That’s 3 losses in a row for Machida in my book
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Nov 21, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Gift decision
Fetus killer looked horrible and hit nothing but air the entire fight and got outworked on the ground.
One of the worst decision of 2010 for sure.
by Lester The Pimp on Nov 21, 2010 11:43 AM EST reply actions
Lester you clearly have zero clue so please STFU nobody wants to hear your retarded troll talk.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
its cus rampage is black...isnt it lester
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Nov 21, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I can’t blame Lentz, but FUCK. I feel especially bad for Griffin. He’s always in good fights. He shouldn’t get cut though. For all the FOTN’s he’s won, he deserves to stick around.
he will he will go 145
good fights there Mike Brown for one.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
they also had shogun winning the first fight against machida.
follow me @moegonzalez
"I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force, its ludicrous these mortals would even attempt to enter my realm"-Mike Tyson
"He's a man im a man its a fight you know who cares"- the axe murder
by moegonzalez on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
they also had shogun winning the first fight against machida.
I don’t think it was the same judges my friend
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i think he was referring to fightmetric, not judges.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Machidas father must have taught Lyoto about karma he deserves to be on the losing side of a controversial fight for acting like he won the lottery 1st shogun fight
by Kayo on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hahaha
Screw that. It’s not karma. He felt that he won that fight. Nothing wrong with that. It’s hard for the fighters to see from what others see from the TV.
Page has had a shit load if gift decisions!
"U guna bark all day lil doggy? Or U guna bite?"- Mr. Blonde
by d*locc on Nov 21, 2010 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed, Ninja has to be the worst one
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Yeah and when he eeked out that one against Griffin, too. Rampage is always on the favorable side of close decisions.
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
Let me interpret what Dana is sayin here:
Look, Rampage looked like shit, but im not gonna say that because I need to promote him for the next fight. Just like I did with Jake Shields.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Morons
Rampage looked the best he has in sometime and in general he looked great all around. Morons
by ihatehipsters on Nov 21, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage hasn't looked the same since he left Juanito.
The only reason he won that fight is because he swung more punches, didn’t land em tho. I scored the fight a close 29-28 for Machida, but I gotta give it a second look. What made you think Page looked “the best he has in some time”??
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Rampage looked good it just wasn't an exciting fight
kind of hard to put on an exciting fight when lyoto is always backing off and not engaging
what did Rampage do to look good?
punch air?
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
So what's your argument for Machida then?
It’s not like he looked spectacular by any means.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Nov 21, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Machida didn't look good until the 3rd round, he was backing off too much.
I wouldn’t call him “elusive” last night, more like running away. i wish he wouldve countered more, but he just ran to safety. but when he did attack, he showed precision and power.
Rampage may have won on aggression, but it wasn’t like he did anything to look “brilliant”. Even Rogan was criticizing his gameplan. He just threw his hands at Machida. What about knees and elbows, kicks and takedowns? Mix it up, keep Mchida guessing.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Shame on MMAMANIA
For even posing the question, “..did they get this one right”
Muck Raking journalism.
Rampage won no ifs and buts
lyoto made that fight as boring as it was, he backed off nearly the whole time and i think he threw 1 punch in the first round for fucksakes, round 2 almost the same thing… theres no way lyoto was getting the W
This thread should be destroyed
The result of the match between Machida and Jackson should never have been brought up for discussion. For the sake of sanity on this one, freedom of speech should be suspended.
It was a split decision
Why shouldn’t this be up for discussion? Even Rampage himself somewhat questioned the decision.
I don't think anyone wants to see this fight again
Close fight, close enough for a rematch, but who really wants to see this again??
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not immediately, we can't be calling for rematches for every close fight.
im sure it’ll happen again when its time.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
I predict Machida continues the losing streak
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Nov 21, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
gotta wonder
i might get destroyed for saying this because we’re talking about a guy who both commercially and critically caught serious attention and praise…but which other fighter drags people into fights that make you so happy you don’t have to judge them via his awkward style that has proven its effectiveness through beating tough guys but also has proven to raise eyebrows regarding its inconsistency? it rhymes with beeth lardine
We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us." - Charles Bukowski
Thankfully most Jardine fights end with him losing by KO so judges don't have to decide his fights
Maybe he feels bad for them trying to score his fight so he does it for them by dropping his hands with his chin in the air.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Close fight.
Got to give props to Machida. He may have lost the first two rounds, but came back strong in the third. He’s got balls for stepping in there with Rampage after getting KTFO by Shogun. He needed a confidence building fight, I think. After getting his first loss, he was too timid to win a 3 round fight against a heavy hitting, iron jawed Jackson.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
machida really needs to rethink his gameplan
wow. and props to BJ though i 100 percent thought hughes was taking that fight.
When I was drunk,
I was pissed and saw no way Rampage won that fight. After sleeping it off, I understand how the judges saw it that way. I still believe the first round could’ve gone either way and I would have given it to Machida. But through sober eyes, I can now see what the judges saw
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."-Albert Einstein
THE MACHIDA ERA*
yeeeah ramage listened to Bas this weekend(if ya’ll have HDNet u know what i mean)
with that said, i was hoping machida woulda got it to the ground early when they werte dry but NOPE :/
God is too big for just one religion...
29-28 Machida IMO
Second round definitely Rampage, first one could’ve gone either way. But I’m probably biased. I’m just disapointed, and sad.
"A lot of times, you beat a person who beat a person who can beat you. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense." – Joe Rogan
what's next?
Rampage vs winner of Bones/Bader? or maybe loser of Shogun/Rashad?
Machida vs..i got nothing, anyone?
We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us." - Charles Bukowski
There's no controversy here..
I love how this post questioned whether the “5 or 6 punches” were enough to garner a decision victory for Machida.. Basically saying: “Do you think that the one 1 out of 3 rounds that Machida won were enough to make him the winner of the fight?” Stupid question posed to incite pointless controversy.. It’s like saying, do you think the Redskins should have beat the Eagles even though the score was 59-28 for the Eagles? “YA I DEF THINK THE REDSKINS SHOULD HAVE WON,” C’MON MAN!!!!!! Please do better than that!
UFC = Showbiz
the ufc is turning showbiz…bottom line is Rampage is more marketable…makes the company more $…he gets the nod in a close decision…DW’s comments are sad for the sport…foot stomps win you a round?…really?….this is turning in boxing/wwe
The truth of the matter is...
The more advanced and polished the fighters become in MMA, the more it will become like boxing… And at that point most of you drunk, craving for a sloppy knockout, type fans won’t be able to turn to MMA for your fight fix. Talk to me in 20 years and I’ll see like Nostradamus, because I guarantee you.. What makes the majority of people fans of MMA today won’t be the same thing that makes them fans 20 years from now.. This sport will have less and less knockouts, less and less subs, and more and more decisions. Which I, personally don’t mind, so long as the fights are competitive and have a high level of skill involved.
by BlaiseBlaise on Nov 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
the truth of the matter is........
that unlike boxing there is ONE leading promotion, and not wba,wbc,wbo,ib who gives a fuck, and all the fighters want to get there, and what the man at the top says goes, and as he has said in another article he feels the fans, and what they say…
this is not the debarcle that is boxing…….and as long as money is paid for ko, sub, and fight of the night, then fighters have an incentive to create good fights…..not knocking boxing, great sport…..shit administration…
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Nov 21, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
agree with Blaise
I truly enjoy a technical chess match…and I have since the inception of the sport…
however, the sad part is (and you heard it last night) that fans boo if there is no blood and “sloppy knockouts”….
Another sad part is the next Rampage promo tag line will probably say "After his destruction of Lyoto “the Dragon” Machida…"…just like the Jake Shield’s b/s…and countless others…
it’s not even worth waisting time on this topic anymore…we know what we’re getting now.
Who got their ass kicked more?
Rampage did. I say make it so the judges can score a round 9-9 if there is no clear winner of the round. Rounds 1 and 2 were meaningless. The 3rd was obviously Machida’s. He was never hurt in the entire fight. That flurry in the third and the takedown were the only significant things in the whole fight.
Agreed
They’re supposed to score even rounds 10-10 though they never do (the only time I remember an even round was from one of the judges for Andy-Leites). When nothing happens neither man deserves to win the round, problem is the judges always try to pick a winner because there’s only 3 rounds and a drawn round has a good chance of making the fight a draw, just as a 10-8 is usually enough to win the fight. As long as these big fights are only 3 rounds we’ll continue to see poor scoring as judges have to use the same score for an even round as they do for a one sided one, hence Rampage winning this fight based on 2 rounds where nothing happened.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Man!!!! You fucking Machida fans kill me. I wasnt happy with the outcome of this fight either
I wanted this non-fucking running away chicken shit to get ko’ed. But I knew this shit was gonna happen before the fight even took place. EXPECT this every time your piss drinking man crush fights or lack there of. He ran. who down win fights by landing 3 or 4 pitter pat punches in the last round and then act surprised when you lose…fucking retreads!!
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior
Jesus im tired..Im going to bed...
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior
Dana is such a hypocrite and the biggest biased MMA fan
He was all over Shogun when he lost his 1st fight with Machida ordering an immediate rematch. Now look at him.
You win two of the rounds, then you’re the winner
That’s not the way it works or Rampage wouldn’t have lost to Forrest.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Nov 22, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions
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