Dana said he listens to the fans.....
I will try make this as quick. and painless as possible I have only done a couple of these fanposts, but really enjoy reading others' here at mmamania.com. Anyhow, I have seen Dana White interviews lately where he says he is now rethinking Mir-Lesnar III. Dana said it was mainly because of the fan input/outcry which primarily came from his Twitter. Dana has repeatedly said he listens to what the fans have to say and puts together the fights that the fans want to see. Dana has done this before with the Henderson/Franklin rematch that was scheduled at one time. The general concensus then was that not many really wanted to see that rematch. If it werent because of us fans, we may not of been treated to the KO of a lifetime when Hendo quieted Bisping, even for just a little bit. If Dana had made the Hendo/Franklin rematch happen, who knows what may of happened. Maybe Hendo would of won again and still got a KO of the year or even scarier, Franklin may of decisioned Bispinig...or even lost!! OMG, thank God that didn't happen.
Anyhow, I was hoping that the fans would send a message to Dana about a future proposed title fight. Maybe I am in the minority, but I cant imagine that many arent outraged that Jake Shields is still getting a title shot after his dismal debut perfomance. Dana has promised title shots many times, then afterwards had a change of heart for whatever reason. Again, maybe there are those out there that think Shields should still fight fot the title and "earned" his shot. No disrespect to Shields or fans of his. I am only trying to reach those of you that feel the same as I do. I am so upset because guys like Paulo Thiago, Carlos Condit, Jake Ellenberger, Jon Fitch, Diego Sanchez, etc, etc fight 3 fighters of equal skill level and/or better than Kampmann each year and ONE loss really throws them far back in the title hunt. If Shields does get that title shot it will not be till at least late spring or early summer 2011(about 10 months from debut and probably and about the same time the mentioned above fighters will have to get by THREE really good fighters just to keep pace and stay near the top of the stacked UFC WW division.. And all Shields needed in the same period of time was to get by Kampmann, well, and luck from the judges I am not knocking Kampmann, he is one of my favorite fighters. I think he is about 5th or 6th best UFC WW and this is a stacked division. Many even thought Kampmann won that fight, as do I. That fight was far from a decisive or dominant win and many believe that Jake didnt even win the fight, period. I just feel that Shields needs to prove himself before he gets a title shot. The other top dogs in the Welterweight division will fight 3 contenders(of equal skill to Kampmann and better) by the time Shields fights for the title. I am just asking people that feel as I do about Shields and his "title" shot to simply send Dana Whtie a simple Twitter message.
Here is a simple example. Go to Twittter.com and send message to @danawhite.
@danawhite U said you listen to the fans. If fans made you rethink Mir-Lesnar 3, then Shields' title shot should be no brainer. NO to Jake!
If you feel like I do, simply go to Twitter.com and cut and paste the above @danawhite tweet, or make up 1 of your own that fits the space given. Send it everyday, twice a day, even 5 times per day.!! Tell your friends to do the same. Do whatever it takes to make sure they all dont get lost in the 1.2 million followers he has that also send him messages Maybe I am blowing this way out of proportion. But, Dana is known to both, listen to fan's outcries, AND go back on his word after promising a title shot. This is definitely one of the times where he should reconsider. I have even tweeted @danawhite Take a poll and see for yourself just how few UFC fans think Shields deserves that title shot. I hope some of you start sending Dana some feedback and just maybe he will rethink this one also.
Thanks for your time and spread the word to anyone that also feels that Shields doesnt deserve the next shot at the UFC welterweight title.
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Shields is a champion.
When was the last time GSP got to defeat a champ? Last time was at UFC 83. Does Shields stand a chance? Hell no! But we needed to confirm the UFC’s hegemony over mma and Shields will help do just that.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Sit it out then.
I’d pay twice that to see St-Pierre destroy someone every week.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Yan
If I remember we have a sig bet?
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
by danago on Nov 17, 2010 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not until after you answer these questions 3.
1. where you from?
2. Are you a chick?
3. Why do you pretend to be someone you’re not?
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
I'm sure he already agreed to it.
Rough streets of England, straight out the ghetto.
No
I don’t.
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
by danago on Nov 17, 2010 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I noticed you posting on a computer the other day.
Are you at work or something when you post via mobile?
Why did you troll from the start here? You seem like an alright bloke when you aren’t fucking around. What’s up with that?
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
Yes, I’m at work or out when on my phone – most times
I wouldn’t say I’m a troll.
Shut eye for me, Yan don’t pussy out of that bet son. Later
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
by danago on Nov 17, 2010 8:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What would you call what you did? I want to get to the bottom of this. I think you could be a funny poster, if you tried.
I wouldn’t say I’m a troll.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
Jesse will never ban someone for not honoring a bet.
That’s a fact. You ain’t fooling me.
But since I know Machida will defeat Rampage, I’ll take that risk.
It’s on. Three long ones.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I don't think anyone said Jesse would ban someone
Machida has this anyway. Nothing to worry about.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
He said: "If I don't honor my bet the moderator here can ban me"
Silly thing to say.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
lol
I don’t see that anywhere. Different thread?
Danago is coming around. Don’t fuck with my progress.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
What can I say?
I love to troll the trolls.
Here’s the thread. Be my witness if you please:
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I just read the whole thread.
4 months? That is hilarious. Think of something good for him.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
My plan:
To sell the sig privileges to the highest bidder! I bet I could buy a new set of tires with the proceeds.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Make a fanpost.
I’m sure there’s a few people with ideas.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
Maybe you could use the opportunity for therapeutic purposes...
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I kinda like danago.
I like digging inside the heads of trolls. Most of them are really funny people. They just get bored easily.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
I'm pretty sure I once was one.
That’s all in the past though…
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I thought for sure you were here to impart some of your wisdom on us?
Seeing as how you’re cooler, smarter and tougher than everyone here.
How you doing in the pool, smart-guy? You’ve been eliminated, haven’t you? hahaha
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
I think the question is do fans like watching Shields? More than does he deserve it.
The man had a bad fight for his standards last fight but regardless his record and accomplishments more than prove he deserves a shot. The man was SF’s middle weight champion coming off a win over a legend in Hendo! Yes like Fitch many don’t like Shields style but ius it worth $60? I would say yes, whenever two champions face eachother it is a no brainer to me. I would pay to see any GSP fight especially against one of the best grapplers in the world in Shields and yes Shields is one of the best period just ask Fitch who lost too Shields in a submission grappling tournament.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
I will confess something Yan....
Despite the hegemony of the UFC, I’ve been a lot more entertained by fights I’ve seen on smaller shows like Bellator, HD Net fights and even Sengoku. I will say Strikeforce has not impressed me too much since the Fedor Rogers fight which was a great card.
But I can’t recall the last really great UFC card I saw. Check that, 116 was solid top to bottom.
by judomania on Nov 17, 2010 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rogers-Fedor was awesome.
I was with a bunch of newbies who just couldn’t believe it when Fedor knocked that bull out. I was also drunk and betting on Fedor. Good memories.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
as clint eastwood famously said "deserves has nothing to do with it".
shields will get his shot so dana can prove the best fighters are in the ufc and he can flaunt it in the media.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
hegemony ftw
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Nov 17, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Shields deserves a title shot
but he is going to get it. It will be easy to promote for the casual fans (Strikeforce champ vs UFC champ). Dana may want to make a statement as well by having GSP beat Shields into oblivion, just to prove how far superior the UFC is to other orgs.
that is what I was thinking
Dana likes to “use” people to make an an advantage out of.. Dana is using this fight to show just hwo much better the UFC guys are. Dana’s been talking about Shields like he is some kind of killer. Since when were 1 dimensional fighters champions in the UFC?? Shields was the ONLY one that couldnt stop the bully in the striking round..if that not embarrassing enough.
I am pretty Dana is talkling so high on Shields just to prove how great the UFC is and how much better the competition is. I can see GSP winning every aspect this fight. in diminant fashin. Hell, even if Kos wins, I think he will beat Shield also
I think ther aer 5 or 5 fighters in UFC that could beat Shields…..Condit, GSP, Koscheck, Fitch, Sanchez
Since when were 1 dimensional fighters champions in the UFC??
Up until a few weeks ago when Brock lost the belt
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Nov 18, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
That is it
Didnt really think about it too much until now. Dana, Rogan and Godlie talked up Shields like he was the best fighter ever. There is s areason they cant let the guy lose, espcially after the Kampmann fight. They are not gona take a chance because if he is gonna get embarrassed, it is gonna be by GSP. The UFC can promote GSP vs a champ in smaller show.
Isn't Jake on a 15 wins streak?
IDGAF who you are, you deserve a shot with 15 straight wins over the likes of Daley, Hendo Etc.
Say what you want, that’s deserving. No doubt about it.
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
by danago on Nov 17, 2010 7:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agree
But I think Jake should take a fight instead of waiting for GSP. Fitch/Shields!!! Winner deserves a title shot.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
I could see that fight. Both seem to be having trouble winning the fans over despite them both having impressive win streaks.
The next title is some time off anyway.
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
by danago on Nov 17, 2010 7:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dana does what Dana does
if it happens to be the same thing that the fans want, he will claim that for PR reasons.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
now just bring back nick diaz and have him fight gsp.
that could be one hell of an entertaining fight. i would take the dog with nick diaz winning imo.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
now just bring back nick diaz and have him fight gsp.
I think Shields has a better shot than Diaz even though neither I don’t think stand much a chance as does any WW. I think Diaz vs Sanchez would still be a great battle.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
a revenge match nick diaz would certainly win too.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
i got the sig treatment as well over brock. mine was "cain's brown pride all over my face".
i might add it to my sig saying “brock will always have cain’s brown pride all over his face”.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Can you imagine what life on Earth would like be if Brock had caught him in the face with that early wild knee?
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
it probably would be better for mma b/c even though i think cain is a great mma fighter...
and i did say i liked him but did not think he could beat lesnar. in interviews he does not have that charisma quality you kinda need and he has already said he won’t get into any smack downs with other fighters. he is a quiet champion and that won’t change when he fights junior dos santos. i guess there is enough division champions that could have those qualities but we are stuck with guys who are quiet. rua, silva, gsp and edgar are all kinda quiet. the ufc needs a few villian types imo who can fight and entertain. just my personal opinion.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
You must like Koscheck then. He's loud enough.
To me, the drama is infantilizing. I don’t really need it to stay tuned. I was never into WWF or WWE stuff. Take Hughes-Penn 3, they’re not badmouthing each other and yet we all want to watch it.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
your right i do like koscheck.
i’m not the only one who wants to be entertained. miquel torres on espn mma live said now that the merge has happened you will see more high quality fights and more “entertaining” fights. i have been saying that for a long time and now we have a former wec champion saying it and i’ll bet there are alot more like him in the ufc. i only want a few loudmouths just to make it interesting.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Self aware man.
It’s all good.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
btw. i hate wrasslin. i just think mma could use a good smackdown every once in awhile.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
After you've witnessed the wizard of the mic (The Rock) everyone else pales in comparison.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
i voted 'yes'..
however i think jakes last fight wasn’t an indicator that he deserves it, but his currrent record says he does.. throw in the fact that he hasn’t lost in almost 5 years, is currently ranked in the top 5 and the fact that gsp is soo great that he is now recycling opponents..
how about we give george a fresh name.. plus who else would deserve the shot??
UFC just signed Antonio Mckee
He hastn lost in 7 ot 8 years and is riding s similar winning streak as Shields. Actually it is longer and as many without a loss. with that said, I see Vlokman beating him in his debut. Mckee has s similar smothering style as Shields.
Again, not to bag on Shields…he has a nice run outdie the UFC. But the guy will be lucky to go 500 if he fights Condit again, Fitch, GSP, Koscheck, Ellenberger.
Actually Shields turned down a fight against Ellenberger just b4 Ellenberger got the invite tot he UFC. Shields got to pick and choose his opponents. He will not be successfull with his one dimensional grappling facing top UFC fighter after fighter. Although his grappling and control is strong, he wont be able to get away with it in the UFC
I voted no but if they fight
We’ll get to see GSP showcase his stand. I love watching GSP tool guys on his fight (see Fitch). Shields will get finished unless he can take a beating like ‘the terminator’ Fitch can
Didn't know Irish folk watched mma
Thought it was horse racing and Gaelic football, only.
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
by danago on Nov 17, 2010 7:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
tkkpal is from Ireland
There’s a few on here. I think they just like fighting, regardless of the type.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
is that your sig from armbar?
"Human belief progresses through three stages: primitive magic, replaced by religion, in turn ultimately replaced by science. "
-Sir James George Frazer
by *Californication* on Nov 17, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
lol
no. He’s supposed to be emailing me my new pic today. He can’t post pics here?
Remember the emails we were shooting back and forth? I don’t think we’re right.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
really? whys that?
i thought forsure we were?
"Human belief progresses through three stages: primitive magic, replaced by religion, in turn ultimately replaced by science. "
-Sir James George Frazer
by *Californication* on Nov 17, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Not a fan of the horses
Although it has a huge following here. But almost everyone is a fan of GAA (Gaelic football and hurling). Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world. Unreal to watch
MMA is my my favourite to though. We get UFC and some SF cards, everything else I catch online. Didn’t get much WEC so the merging is a blessing
I think that maybe it was in shields’ contract that he got a title shot after his first fight win or lose…. what do you think ?
by mattypimpdaddy on Nov 17, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions
doubt it
Fitch again? Let some fresh meat get eaten alive. Jake is on a hype train that wont be getting any bigger (unless he becomes champ-lol) so why not take advantage of this?
I would rather see GSP vs Shields than GSP vs Fitch II any day.
"Human belief progresses through three stages: primitive magic, replaced by religion, in turn ultimately replaced by science. "
-Sir James George Frazer
by *Californication* on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions

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