Rashad Evans: 'If that's how Josh Koscheck really is ... wow'
by Fernando Quiles Jr. on Nov 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST
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"Koscheck is coming off bad. Koscheck has a golden opportunity to get people to see the real side of him, but I guess this is the real side of him (laughs). That's the sad part about it, if that's how the dude really is.... wow. When he came into the Cain (Velasquez) and Brock (Lesnar) fight, I turned around and I thought there was a fight in the stands. It was the loudest boo I've ever heard. I'm an expert at boos because I've been booed on many occasions. My expertise in being booed allowed me to know this was something different."
Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Rashad Evans isn't very impressed with Josh Koscheck's antics as a coach on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) Season 12. Evans was a coach himself on TUF Season 10, who helped his fighters like Matt Mitrione and Brendan Schaub succeed on the show. Koscheck, however, is more well known this season for his attitude than his coaching. Sound off, Maniacs. Do you think "Suga's" remarks towards Koscheck are warranted? Or is there more to Koscheck than you're seeing on TUF?
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Agreed with Rashad
Kos has a chance to be himself on the show and win over his critics, instead he’s desperately trying to make himself into MMAs biggest heel. He’s doing a pisspoor job at taking away GSP’s focus and has lost any hope of building a fanbase, plus he seems to be more bothered about promoting his fight than coaching. Rashad actually showed his intelligence and dedication to the sport and his team on TUF, even his biggest critics have to admit that he came off well (random arguments with Rampage aside).
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
I'm one of his biggest critics David
and I didn’t think Rashad came off well in TUF. I wanted to smash him myself. He couldn’t fail coming across as considerate to his fighters against Rampage. Soon as he opened his mouth with Rampage the real Rashad came out.
I think he’s just a Rampage wannabe and is in NO position to offer other fighters advice on how to get over with the fans!
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
why b a rampage wannabe when hes better then rampage?? i think rashad was great on the show he did great job coaching and u could see he cared about his fighters,while rampage was awful coach who didnt care about his fighters..lets b serious rampage is sooooo dumb he picked kimbo slice 1st
by phatmacjuggalo10 on Nov 16, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Classic
Man, I don't even know how to do a sig!!!!!!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Nov 16, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Better than Rampage? Christ....
Guessing you aint been into MMA long right?
I think i’ve found four of his fights entertaining and two of those he either got KTFO’d or got a lucky draw. I dont give a monkeys how good a coach he is. Facts are, he’s not a fighter in the truest sense of the word and he’s a grade A wanker.
He idolised Rampage when he was starting out, hell, if it wasn’t for Rampage you probably wouldn’t even see Rashad in MMA
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Nov 16, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand your argument.
Rashad doesn’t have the body of work that Rampage does but at this point in time I do agree he is a better fighter. Entertaining is nice but when talking about the better fighter it doesn’t amount to much.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Nov 16, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if he's a better fighter but he's getting results.
He was extremely annoying on TUF Rampage should have shoved his fist down Rashad’s throat a couple times to shut him up. All he did was talk, just like Kos only difference is Rampage responded.
Robbie Savage
They both talked, at least Rashad also coached which is more than can be said about Rampage
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
I'll give you that much, Dave
Rashad was clearly a better coach, which is no surprise since he’s come up in one of the best coaching camps in MMA and Rampage has never had a decent coaching team in his career.
But Rashad also came across as a total self-righteous, pretentious, two-faced, douchebag. And while I think his sense of brotherhood and care for his students was genuine, I also think he was a total ass about always pointing it out in front of Rampage’s team and made a total prick of himself by publicly asking Rampage’s students if they wanted to come train with him, right in front of their coach. My only beef with Rashad prior to that show was the way he totally disrespected Forrest in the ring. But by the end of that show I hated that little prick.
Rashad even admitted that his own Mama likes Rampage better than him, and rooted for Rampage when they fought.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
rashad vs page on tuf
Both chirped constantly so no one is better or worse for that.
Rashad coached much better so
+1
Rampage (bickering aside) never said a smart thing all season so
+2 for Shad
Rashad shows he is intelligent when speaking (bickering aside) so
+3 for Shad
Shad backed it up, and lopsidedly beat Rampage so
+4 for Shad
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by daniel worby on Nov 16, 2010 6:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Worby needs new glasses and a hearing aid
…also a Bullshit detector and a sense of humor…so….
+10 for Rampage for personality, humor, and genuineness
+ 5 for Rashad for superior coaching.
-5 for Rampage for losing their fight via one-dimensional gameplan
-15 for Rashad for being a self-righteous douchebag
Final Score.
Rampage +5
Rashad -10
Worby -4
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Rashad and Rampage fanatics are both sides of the same coin.
-1 for everybody involved
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+1 To jay for staying out of a Rampage discussion.
I win.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
- 100 for calling people idiots and having the grammar skills of a rotting pumpkin.
“They’re wrongness frustrates them into revealing the idiots they are.”
Shogun’s knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
by G Squat on Nov 16, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Great post
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Nov 17, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
The argument is about who is better.
I believe Page is a better fighter, Rashad is a better and more dedicated athlete.
Rashad is also way better at stifling a fight into a nullifying bore because he cant fight a true top fighter.
The entertainment jab was more a nod to that fact.
Hope this helps..
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Nov 17, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Spoken like a true bitter Rampage fan,
or Chuck or Forrest or Silva fan. Other dislikes of him include trying to be clever wearing a suit, or not keeping it real, which I am assuming is either not acting like a joker or clown like Rampage or speaking like Kimbo,. Another one I remember was, thinking too much before he answeres a question. WTF. The guy cant even breathe right for some people. Proven you guys wrong nearly every time, and you still keep on hating. Don’t keep on bitching because he has proven you wrong, and because he showed those who said he had no chance whatsoever against Page, that Page is not even half the fighter he was in Pride.
Spoken Well Abe
That’s why the hatred continues to grow for Rashad. They keep saying “Rashad’s gonna get KTFO!” and the only time he did nobody was saying that. They’re wrongness frustrates them into revealing the idiots they are.
Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
Rampage was good.
Rampage is an old and tired man today.
Rampage is barely smarter than Koscheck.
Today’s Rampage would lose to today’s Rashad 9 times out of ten.
Machida FTW!
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
You're the only idiot on here G String
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Nov 17, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
'Ade' you been drinking the UFC Kool-Ade
Any guy who:-
Grabs his nuts while fighting a someone
Showboats during fights
Says a fighter is beneath him before he fights
Dry humps to decision wins against quality fighters
Acts as if he’s the best fighter ever when he’s not
Is a dick in my eyes.
All his wins against top quailty fighters are questionable eg T.Silva (Injured Back), Forrest (Broken Hand and over rated), Rampage (13 Month Lay Off, 251lbs 8 weeks before the fight) Chuck (way past his prime) and now Shogun (Fucked knee)
You really think Rashad is a good fighter? or Dry Humper?
Plus, you know you backed the wrong horse when that douche G Squat is backing you up
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Nov 17, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
wow, i had the opposite impression, i liked both of those guys going into the tuf season,
but i ended up hating rampage by the end of it. Rashad isn’t as entertaining, but he beat rampage for a reason, he is better. You don’t need to entertain to be a good fighter, you need to win and have the right gameplan, rampage failed at both.
by DetroitDrew1980 on Nov 16, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
My sentiments exactly, for both TUF and their fight.
I was a big fan of the Pride Rampage. Then, unfortunately, I got to know more about him.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Agreed
I guess I underestimated how far Rampage’s fans will go to praise him/bash Rashad. Oh well we all know who is the better man after 114.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
yep.
Wanted Page to win me back on Tuf, but he kept his tired old jokes going, didn’t care about anyone but himself, acted like a child, and stayed true to how moronic he is.
Then Rashad beat him, like anyone with a normal view of fighting could easily see beforehand that Rashad could have only beat himself heading in to that fight, cause he is a much better fighter.
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Nov 16, 2010 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate Rashad
And I didn’t like him much in TUF either, but compared to Kos, Rashad did an amazing job f presenting himself.
But I did have to tip my hat to the “Boo expert” that was a pretty amusing and astute quote from Rashad.
Give credit where it’s due.
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Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011
OH man I hope this leads to SHAD VS KOS in the future. KOS would smash Rashad all day imo
Wrestling , cardio, and the stand up
The pain that you carry is the love that you never showed
You are joking right?
My sarcasm meter is broken so……
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Nov 16, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
No He Wasn't
His hatred for Rashad blinds him from the obvious. Get your emotions in check woman!
Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
wow. even if by some ruh'tarded stretch of the imagination
You seriously think Kos would beat Rashad, it’s even more insane to think that Kos will be moving up to 205 from 170 to fight a guy that came down to 205 from heavyweight.
Yeesh.
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by daniel worby on Nov 16, 2010 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rashad is extremely small for a LHW
and was never really a HW anymore than KenFlo was a MW when he fought on TUF.
Rashad could cut to 185, which is probably about what Kos walks around at, but it wouldn’t be a fair fight.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
I’m an expert at boos because I’ve been booed on many occasions. My expertise in being booed allowed me to know this was something different
That is a fantastic quote, and I like that Rashad can laugh at himself. Maybe Koscheck should try it sometime. I’ve never been a big fan of Rashad, but the more I’ve seen of him outside the cage the more I’ve liked him.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
No, no it's not.
I believe tuf are making out kos to the bad guy, in comparison to gsp, the good guy. There just trying to get good vs bad going. You kids will buy it I know, I’m not.
And off cameras kos just jokes around, nothing but banter.
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Been watching MMA from day 1.
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they're
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 40-1-0
Since when did you become a grammar cop?
ish
"I'm sorry about my performance tonight... I had sand in my vagina."
-Forrest Griffin
Doesn't matter.
Rashad’s training partner will clown Kos.
Amazing...on October 22nd many said, "Brock Lesnar is the best. He is the baddest man on the planet." But after the 23rd its all, "He lost to the best fighter in the world. No shame in that." ...simply amazing how the backpedaling is occurring. I guess it makes sense...it's not only that Brock lost, but HOW he lost.
My thoughts exactly
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by enzo-enormous on Nov 16, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
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by hairybumcrack on Nov 16, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Awsome!
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 16, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Both Kos and Rashad came off bad at times
Obviously Kos is coming off bad on TUF, but i almost feel he wants to. He enjoys being the villain. I don’t really understand why, but he does.
Rashad came off bad on TUF in only a few instances. Mostly during the arguments with Rampage.
But the big difference is, Rashad came off looking 100% better at coaching than Rampage did. Rashad cared more about his fighters—heck he even cared more about Rampage’s fighters than Rampage did. Rashad is smarter than Rampage, so i guess it’s no surprise. And Rashad doesn’t put fame ahead of work ethic, unlike Rampage, who seemed only to be on the show so he could get TV time (and for the chance to fight Rashad, of course).
Plus, Rampage is about one of the laziest successful fighters in the biz. He’s so lazy, he makes the old BJ Penn look good. I mean seriously, was there any wonder at all who was going to win that fight between him and Rashad after watching the entire season? Please. Rashad wins that fight 9 times out of 10, simply because he’s willing to work harder than Rampage.
At the end of the day, love him or hate him, Rashad is a winner. He’s used to winning and he finds ways to win.
I guess that makes Rampage a loser (despite being, at times, the more “likable” personality).
Great post, Adam.
You’ve just described exactly why I hate Rampage and respect (even if I’m not a big fan) Rashad.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Whay
U think the ufc are trying to make kos look bad? It’s what he says and how he condones himself thats doing that…he’s not changed since he was on as a contestant! U can’t be grabbing guys by the throat just because u feel like it..whether the guy should have been there is immaterial, he doesn’t act like a pro fighter, he disrespects people who are not fighters for no reason other than he thinks everything else is beneath him!! Can’t wait for GSP to kick this idiots balls!!
by the real mo on Nov 16, 2010 4:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's just how Koscheck is....
He is a grade A douche bag who only cares about himself. He is so delusional on TUF its unbelieveable. Rashad was a ten times better coach than Koscheck, although I couldn’t stand whole Rampage/Rashad stupid arguements every episode. Koscheck is what he is, and that is his true side. He can dish it, but he sure can’t take it.
"I dreamed that I was being raped by Freddy Mercury." - Tank Abbott after losing to Dan Severn
KOS IS A LEGIT DOUCHEBAG
After seeing the way he acted in his last two fights I can’t stand tht asshole. He straight cheated his win out of Rumble with those fake eye pokes and all his other douchebaggery I hope gsp kills him in their upcoming fight
by johnnysmash on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont know what the hell evans is making a fuss about
Kos is a good guy and a great fighter, Im a huge fan and will support him 100% over st pierre
Fixed
Kos is a good guy dickhead and a great good fighter
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
You and Koschek's mom.
Now he has a fan club.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
And Jon Fitch
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
and mike swick
and koschecks sister
and koschecks cousing
and koschecks niehbor
I can keep going and going koscheck has a much larger fan base then you guys think
I cannot wait for this lopsided beating...........
Fuck the raiders........and the donkeys too........
It's still a long way. 4 weeks.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I wonder if Kos will win another round?
My guess is no.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
Every time I watch GSP-Kos, I always score it 30-27.
Koscheck was on top for the last 90 seconds of the first round. That’s it. That’s not worth a round however impressive it may be.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Same here. I've watched it a thousand times and I can't see how Kos won a round.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
Agreed.
I had it 30-27, but I thought the one round was pretty close and wasn’t terribly surprised 2 judges gave it to Koscheck.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Since the Hardy Ligament Phenomena,
I don’t dare to predict a spectacular finish for St-Pierre anymore. I hope he makes up for it with absolute domination.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I agree as well
GSP had him down for nearly the whole round, landed decent strikes from the guard… kos had a slightly more flashy takedown but landed very few effective strikes. Rounds 2 and 3 were dominant. Their second fight will likely be total domination followed by a finish of some sort.
I got it from a good source
Kos is a legit douche. Not that I know too many people, but more than some. I was told I can’t get an interview with Kos. Same person said my “interviews are great…Kos is just a dick.”
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I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
and before you say it
no it wasn’t Baroni!
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I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
oh
and I have no problem with Kos…but don’t like Rashard (as Rampage called him).
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I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
But you do have a hard-on for Baroni.
I’m just gonna assume it’s Baroni, regardless of your second post :)
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
ha
I had b-a-r-
Then you posted this comment
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Nov 16, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
thats why I posted it
I was talking to him today though. he’s my new poker buddy!
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I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
but hasn't said a bad thing about AKA
and actually made sure he wasn’t quoted wrong when talking about them not fighting as he likes it there
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he needs me to "teach" him tournament poker
he plays mainly cash games, and I win a lot of tournaments. We may be going next weekend, anyone in the bay that wants to play, let me know
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I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Sounds like Kev has a crush....
Just make sure he respects you. It is your body and he doesn’t have the right to touch you if you say NO. I doubt you’ll say no though.
Armbarbandit...What's the new sig? You're up.
I think it's Baroni who will end up being the one who says no
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no matter how old, disheveled, and irrelevant
Baroni gets, he now has cemented a way to forever get publicity and interviews! lol
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by *Californication* on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
10 yrs from now
a where are they now post
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
LOL!
actually, you should do a “Where are they now” post and give updates on former fighters! get worby on that.
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by *Californication* on Nov 16, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Kos ain't acting
You can only act so much, and creative TUF editing can only do so much.
The sad fact is, despite all that, Kos STILL looks bad. He’s ignorant, inmature and not a very good coach — concentrates on himself more than his team.
BTW… the dude who posted the Simon and Garfunkle photo = genius.
lol
at Rashad
I would rather watch Koscheck be a real life jerk than watch Rashad Evans PRETEND to be a good guy like he when he was on TUF, as opposed to the showboating, cocky punk that he shows himself to be when he’s fighting.
my thoughts exactly, Cough
at least Kos knows he’s a prick. Rashad tries to convince himself and the world that he’s this dignified intellectual philanthropic sportsman, then gets in the ring and curses people while making obscene gestures and fondling his genitals at them. He’s a total poser and I can’t stand him. If I had to choose between hanging out with Rashad or hanging out with Koscheck, I’d volunteer for a lobotomy.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
you can only "edit" so much...koscheck is a jerk who never left that high school persona because he didnt have to.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I think this is the real kos.
He was featured in sept issue of Fight! magazine and there’s a big deal in it about him just playing the role of the bad guy for his own “good.” He says something like “if you sit down and just talk with me for 10 mins I guarantee you will fall in love with me” which is quite retarded without explanation. I understand that he’s trying to make people notice him, and whether they like him or not he doesn’t care – it makes him more of a draw, yeah I get it. But it’s pathetic, considering there are less marketable fighters with more skill that keep their mouths shut and impress me ten times more – from the same damn gym much less.
Obviously we don’t get the whole story because we see 42 mins per week of a show that lasts over a month, but enough is shown to have me convinced that kos is just a clown who thinks he’s much smarter than he really is. The whole deal with the “male nurse” and his beef with cody mckenzie is just sad. Half the time he just comes off as really insecure and not really confident in his own trash talk. Also sad is his lack of sportsmanship – banging on the wall in the dressing room, general disrespect to GSP and his whole team/entourage… couple that with his acting in the octagon and it’s just really hard for me to like the guy.
by Rob556 on Nov 16, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You're male nurse, huh?
Really? A male nurse? A male one? A nurse that’s a male? You’re actually… a male nurse?
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