Minotauro' Nogueira: 'Chael Sonnen is a kid' who 'lacks respect
by MMAmania.com on Oct 3, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
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"I loved it. I had to call to Wanderlei to congratulate him. I always get along well with Wanderlei. Whenever we train in Las Vegas, we go to his gym. Yesterday, I had to congratulate the guy, because he has the right attitude. Sonnen is a kid who does not know what he’s talking about, who thinks it’s cute to do this type of marketing. Sonnen is a guy who never practiced a martial art in his life. He doesn’t know what respect or leadership is. He never respected any teacher, so he said those things. He’s a guy who has no respect for anything. Wanderlei gave him an earful at the right time, and I was pleased. After the fight with Anderson, Sonnen has apologized for the comments he made toward us. I think marketing yourself is fine, but what he said indicated a real lack of respect toward us.... Sonnen was totally wrong. It was a great lack of respect toward us. The guy talked too much, and even though he was doping, he still lost to Anderson. Even with Anderson hurt and Sonnen doped, Anderson still defeated him. God is just."
Former Pride FC and UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira continues to pile it on top of former number one middleweight contender, Chael Sonnen, after a positive test for performance-enhancing drugs. In the run up to his fight with Anderson Silva at UFC 117, Sonnen went to great lengths to discredit the Brazilian black belt that the "Spider" earned under the Nogueira brothers, saying it came in a McDonald's Happy Meal. He also called one Nogueira a punching bag and the other irrelevant. With his comments, Sonnen appeared to anger the entire Brazilian fighter community, including Wanderlei Silva, who warned that he might lose his teeth if he didn't start showing more respect. Is all the Sonnen bashing getting a little out of hand or is karma really just a bitch?
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I think tho he lost, Lil Nog is still a credible opponent, tho Big Nog should just retire. He’s left a legacy, sit back and enjoy it before you have to get someone to change your diaper for the rest of your life(if its not to late already).
Chael was all an act, people need to relax. His plan obviously worked, cus all the Brazilians got upset.
That being said, the patriotism the Brazilians show is pretty cool.
Sonnen would beat W.Silva btw, as sad as that statement makes me.
Why...
Would Wand win in a bar fight but not in the cage?? Would a couple beers somehow restore his chin?? Are you not allowed to pick someone up and dump them on their head in a licensed establishment?? Explain yourself.
by LAF on Oct 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I forgot it was the weekend
I’ll try make it simple – Wand = heavy handed brawler. Sonnen = Pillow fisted wrestler.
When have you been involved/witnessed a bar fight that involved a double leg takedown and 15 minutes of dry humping? Everyone I’ve ever witnessed/been involved in = trying to land as many crazy punches as possible before the police arrive, which kind of sounds more up Wanderlais street wouldn’t you say
Watch your ass Danago. It should be easy enough, because I can see it all the way from Texas. I have already proven that my MMA knowledge is all encompassing, while yours isn’t ish. Keep it up, and I will beat you into yet another humiliating defeat that leaves wallowing and crying in your maple syrup.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
well...
I was more or less joking, didn’t expect this dongo “I’ve seen chael fight on the street” doucher to go off on one. But to your point about bar fights just being about haymakers I would say that’s generally true when the participants are two dumb drunks with no real fighting ability (as is most often the case) but when the fight involves two skilled fighters its really gonna be more about self defense and neutralizing your opponent than just all out brawling. Chael is hardly just gonna stand in the pocket and swing wildly when he realizes the power he’s up against. If he beats him in the cage, he beats him in the bar. He doesn’t just lose his mind and stand there like a punching bag.
by LAF on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You're wrong there pal,
there just isn’t the space in a bar environment to practice an effective wrestling game now is there??? It’s just a wild testosterone/beer fuelled slugfest to see who can land the most blows before they get broken up. It aint technical in the slightest, all that goes out of the window.
You’re right, although there can still be an element of technical maneuvering, especially by experienced guys. Yeah, people switch over to using their gross motor skills, but the ability to stay calmer than the typical guy, having a lower heartbeat and all around better composure, enables pro fighters in particular to have more wits about them, therefore having a fight which will most likely be sloppy, but will still be, in a lot of cases, more technical than a typical barroom brawl. But not always.
Top 5 P4P keyboard warrior.
Yeah. Either way, it's still different, to some extent, than an MMA fight.
It’s an interesting discussion anyway. I think LAJ made a good point to question it, even though I’m leaning closer to your point of view, because I too think Wand would brutalize Chael in a street fight.
Top 5 P4P keyboard warrior.
Didnt one of those clowns in the TUF house take the other guy down in a drunken brawl?
by xquisitewretch on Oct 3, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think he tried to pull off a triangle from the bottom and the other dude picked him up and dumped him on his head or something.
I’m not certain, it’s a bit hazy. But that was not an all out brawl. It seemed a little lackluster if I recall correctly.
Top 5 P4P keyboard warrior.
It was Marlon “300” Sims vs. some dude I can’t remember. Monstah Lobstah instigated the whole thing, with a lot of help from Senor Cuervo.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Noah Thomas
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
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That’s him. The three of them put together added up to a small mound of shit.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Agreed but I still remember laughing at how technical it was for a street fight, with attempted armbars and whatnot.
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
Can chael pick up a bottle, because i always pick up a bottle......
who cares who would win in a bar fight? the nogs are full of shit. they built up their reps while fighting in japan..the land of the rising syringe. these brazilians drink piss for christ sakes!!! does anyone really doubt that they would juice if they could get away with it?
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 4, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
sonnen keeping it consistent.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 3, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Nog with some qoute of the week material
Even with Anderson hurt and Sonnen doped, Anderson still defeated him. God is just."
The guy talked too much, and even though he was doping, he still lost to Anderson. Even with Anderson hurt and Sonnen doped, Anderson still defeated him. God is just.
+∞
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
These nog brothers walk around like big shits, just retire already. IDGAF what big nog did, the guy fell short everytime. He’s done jack shit, other than pull off a few subs, after getting beat the F out of. The hell, bob sapp nearly beat his ass. Just retire. Then theres little nog ‘world class boxer’ yet sokoudjou knocks him the F out, yeah, great boxing kid.
Chael would smash them both, now retire
don't be surprised when both nogs are released in their next losses.
both guys are old and looked old and battered. the only place we will see them is in andy’s corner.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 3, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
LMFAO!
You’re an idiot.
Go kill yourself and put us out of your misery
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+2
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 3, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen might put the a-hole in the dumbass...
…..but he’s kind of right about the Nogueiras right now.
The Nogs are a couple of fucking whores...
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They’re as bad and phony as Anderson, acting nice but are really douchebags who seem to really hate anyone who’s not their friend or brazilian.
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by Lester The Pimp on Oct 3, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
i can't wait to belfort knocks out andy. the crowd will go crazy and so will the blogs and the casual fan
plus i’ve noticed andy is smirking more these days. i hate people who smirk.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 3, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
see I would have a much easier time cheering for belfort over silva than I would have had sonnen won
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
you will be disappointed again, sry
Vitor will get brutalized
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
I don't understand why people seem to think that even 19 yr old kid version of vitor
can compete with andy much less any reborn or old new version of him.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sure maybe the nogs are no longer prime..
at least there is a legacy behind them..and i have no love for sonnen’s “act” of smack talk..it shows how weak he is in spirit..though i was impressed with how he worked a hurt anderson over , i can never really be a fan of this guy..he is just too full of shit.
I agree, Sarah. There’s one thing to “act” in order to get publicity or whatnot, but to say completely ridiculous things and still make out you’re an honest and genuine guy is just idiotic. I mean, he’s said before that he doesn’t trash talk and what he says is sincere and from his heart and is just how he feels. That he means what he says.
So when he said he never lost at middleweight, he meant it? And did he also mean it when he disrespected Machida by saying the 205 lb division is weak for having a karate guy as a champion? And all other fighters are cowards because they didn’t want to fight Anderson? And Anderson ducked him for four years?
And that’s only a fraction of the shit he’s said. It’s amusing because it’s so fucking stupid and he’s another weird kind of character. But he deserves all the criticism he gets. And Wand and the Nogs are right.
Top 5 P4P keyboard warrior.
This.....
Also can’t ever respect a known fake tapper.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
MMA needs to be about respect...I get why sonnen sells his fights so hard
but I agree with mino here…you can sell a fight, but you can also be disrespectful towards others, and he was…love or hate anderson silva, he kept it pretty clean and respectful…considering MMA isnt even legal in all 50 states, its best if MMa comes off as a sport with integrity.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I like everything about chael
1) he doesnt give a shit what anyone thinks about him
2) he has no feel out process, he goes right at his opponent with unbelievable pressure
3) he doesnt care to hug his cornermen before the fight
4) he recognizes hes not the most skilled but he is as tuff as they come
they guy desicively beat marquardt & okami and still tested clean. He will beat the hell out of A sliva with or without ped’s. So he made a mistake big deal, Im a fan and I am looking forward to see him as he says in a fist fight hopefully soon
and in reply to nogurias comment for a guy who doesnt know a martial art he sure does dominate with ease so called mixed martial artists
A mistake?
A mistake is forgetting to set your alarm clock. Taking steroids is FUCKING CHEATING. He didn’t accidentally stick a needle in his ass.
Hadoken!!
I want this as my new sig.......
“The guy talked too much, and even though he was doping, he still lost to Anderson. Even with Anderson hurt and Sonnen doped, Anderson still defeated him. God is just.”——Nog.
How long left in our bet Free and panthro?
CroCop is an embarrassment to the Pride name. He tarnished his legacy beyond repair. Mitrione should have been fighting Mir to make that fight competitive.
Does Mirko Cro Cop look like a bitch? Then why did Frank Mir f*ck him like one.
Wanderlei is the most aggresive/brutal fighter ever in the game. I hope Chael never gets in a bar fight with Wanderlei because a life sentence would mean no more UFC fights. Chael would get stomped out in the streets or in the octagon. Wanderlei wouldnt let him implement his game of takedowns and lay n pray Wanderlei would bum rush Chael and Rape choke that fool. Wanderlei wants his suspension to be lessended so he can run train.
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