Gabriel Gonzaga released by the UFC
by Fernando Quiles Jr. on Oct 28, 2010 3:47 PM EDT
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Former number one heavyweight contender, Gabriel Gonzaga, has been released from his UFC contract after being defeated for the third time in his last four bouts, a unanimous decision loss to Brendan Schaub at UFC 121: "Lesnar vs. Velasquez" on Oct. 23 in Anaheim, California.
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Saw this one coming
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Yep I kept saying before the fight
He is going to get his walking papers after this loss. It sounds like he got what he wanted. Sounds like “regular” life and BJJ is where he wants to be so good for him. Didn’t seem to have the fighting spirit much anymore.
by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 28, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Man i called it in my post from the Merger headline.
Bigger and bigger names will be getting cut from the UFC to make card space. Because even though he lost, he’s the most perfect gatekeeper fighter and HWs at least good ones are always in short supply. He could have been a good name to legitimize guys into title or contendership positions with the UFC. A lot more other names will be coming to make the merger work.
More importantly though Brittany Palmer is going to the UFC and she’s way way prettier than Arianny.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 28, 2010 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
“He could have been a good name to legitimize guys into title or contendership positions with the UFC. "
What do you mean “could have”. That’s EXACTLY what he did up til now.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Good gatekeepers are hard to come by.
They could have just kept him and let him do what he does best while cut someone like McSweeney or one of the many lower level HWs without much upside.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 28, 2010 4:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm hoping that Kongo will be shown the door very soon as well (unless that draw with Browne prevents him from being cut cause he didn't technically lose)
If not match him up against Brock, then cut him after he gets destroyed. He’s a waste of space like Gonzaga was.
As for Gonzaga I’m glad that he’s gone, he was overpaid and was living off the Cro Cop KO without actually improving at all. I’m glad that quality smaller fighters are now joining the UFC at the expense of overpaid, overrated names who clutter up cards with the same bad displays (or quick KOs over cans signed to make them look good).
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
I worry about Brock against any decent striker after his last performance
wouldnt be suprised if Kongo put him away honestly, as ridiculous as that sounds, he almost took out Cain several times but Cain reacted correctly and went for the shoot… If Brock turtles up and starts break dancing around the ring again, Kongo has a shot
by xquisitewretch on Oct 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd much rather watch Gabe over Tito any day.
Carwin stopped him the whole first round and beat him down.
He beat up a fresh Brock Lesnar, and Lesnar subbed a gassed Shane Carwin.
Brock doesn’t like to be hit and does not defend well once he catches a shot to the head.
It’s going to be his downfall.
Carwin>Lesnar in a rematch.
by Spiffy on Oct 15, 2010 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions
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unfortunately the way mma and boxing works.
Is that a fighters pay is based on name value. Prize money would be so much better cause winners should be rewarded , that’s the whole point with having an individual competition. So by having said that Gabe Gonzaga’s name was used until it no longer was useful , they had to have him on main cards against top guys b/c of the pay. Same thing with Tito , Chuck and all the guys they pay well based on name value , if they didn’t pay them so much for being famous there would be no reason to always put them on main cards and match them up against “names”. What the UFC is doing is protecting their money and creating illusions.
he was a good guy to legitimize guys into title contention.
enough of that nonsense now and let them fight real solid fighters on their own level up until they can be called the best. Frank Mir is the only real gatekeeper left.
I piss on jay.
i dont see how they cut gonzaga and keep guys like cro-cop and yvel, i love those guys but gonzaga is better. maybe they just knew he had lost his spirit to fight.
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Gonzaga only lost to guys with potential.
He always always highlight reeled guys who were not up to par. And i do believe those guys will be going too. But who takes his role now? Because it means that you know a todd duffee comes in KO’s low level guys quick then all of a sudden he’s fighting Carwin?Roy?JDS? That makes no sense, and people who says just have serious fights your logic makes no sense. How can you have a serious fight between two guys not on even remotely on the same level? Guys like gonzaga let us guage where their levels are at to see if they need improvement.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 28, 2010 4:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
exactly, i see him and kongo as perfect gatekeepers, ufc has a lot worse curretly signed to their HW division, there has to be some behind the scenes stuff with him.
Or maybe he just makes a lot more then those below him?
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC is the highest level of pro MMA fighting. Gonzaga (11-6) does not qualify anymore.
you fight as high as your results take you, he’s been fighting guys who have been way more successful in MMA.
I piss on jay.
im a gonzaga fan
But that performance was horrible, his shots looked half assed and I was pretty dissapointed but maybe he can go to sf
by Phenomenal Angel on Oct 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
all im saying is he is not there worst HW by a long shot.
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
definately not the worst, but like i said he looked like he didnt want to win
by Phenomenal Angel on Oct 28, 2010 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
makes me think there's some mental issues going on and his heart isnt in it anymore, they probably know it to.
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, he's had a tough road.
how can he not have mental issues when he’s lost 3 out of 4. the mental aspect is huge and you’re not going to get a confidence boost by getting ko’d 2 every other fight. His fight against Junior Dos Santos was just silly , he was used there two guys coming in under totally different conditions.
I piss on jay.
he was doing well against carwin until he got caught. I'd like to see him in SF or Bellator but it dons't sound like he's interested...
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He was beating Carwins ass until he got caught.
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
by jay. on Oct 28, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wasted potential.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I usually don't believe in that type of stuff but I am very inclined to agree with you on that.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Aww sad but true :-(
You're a wasted rock ranger, you live a life of danger, sing this song and follow it til the end, and when you reach number 1, HEY!! We'll all overdose for fun and go hang out with Jimmy and his friends...........
Randy Didnt Break Him
I said it from day 1. Gonzaga was a 1 kick wonder. Well, technically before the 1 kick happened I just said he sucked….. Other than smashing Cro Cop he did what exactly? And how much credit are we still giving Cro Cop these days?
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
hey OJR i wont be able to vote for QOTW this friday,
im cutting weight all friday and fighting saturday so i’ll be away from mania. can i cast my vote today?
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 28, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lol...
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
what? i appreciate the time OJR puts into the QOTW seciton and wanted to make sure i contributed!
There was some funny shit this week too.
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 28, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Find the thread because it has slipped off the board. Post your vote and I will make sure it is included.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
will do!
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
AK
You got a fight this Saturday? How can the maniacs support you?
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
Have someone tape it and youtube it...
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Leave my bromance partner alone! :P
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Good luck with your fight! Do a fanpost!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
thanks OJR, i'll be sure to do that.
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 28, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Good luck in your fight mate
Let us know if there’s any way we can watch it. I’ll be sure to read your fanpost on it as well.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
You that guy?
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Andrew-Keller-55723
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
back to normal life and BJJ forever
Is Gonzaga hanging it up for good?
I was never a "fan"
but I appreciated what he brought to the fight game
Please, the guy was terrible. All he’s doing is costing himself millions in SF, who would call him a “Former UFC No.1 Contender.”
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Um.... P-Dub
Maybe because he WAS a number 1 contender. lol
by Fernando Quiles Jr. on Oct 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Misinterpretation
PW used “who” in reference to SF, meaning that they would bill Gonzaga as a former UFC top contender not “who” as in who would call him a top contender. And whilst Gabe was the number one contender at one point it would still be a cheap way to get credibility for promoting a mediocre fighter.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Im sure he's goint to get
many offers from other organizations.
Midgets don't have feelings right?
by G-Rated on Oct 28, 2010 3:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good riddance to bad rubbish
He’ll be remembered for one single KO win and nothing else, just like sokoudjou.
by Lester The Pimp on Oct 28, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
nope, just hates non whites.
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i guess if you consider bazilians white, i consider there ethnicity closer to hispanic.
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
lester likes rimjobs from guys too.
Midgets don't have feelings right?
by G-Rated on Oct 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope you don't know this from experience.
:)
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
Hes giving you a chocolate smile behind that computer screen.
So glad we don't have to see James Toney's fatass anymore.
Well it looks like GG will be done in MMA by the sound of that message.
But now we get to hear Brendan Schaub’s smug and annoying mouth on how he “retired” GG if that’s the case. :(
SCREW YOU!!!
Schaub:annoying and smug?
O_o
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
The Cro Cop Head kick was the worst thing that cooulda happend to GG...
Ever since then he basically abandonned his bread & butter and considered himself a dangerous world-class striker, which he clearly is not.
very very true. it's sad.
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Good point but it's not just that
Gabe always folds under pressure, he has the bullys mentality in fighting and wilts when he can’t hurt his opponent or take them down. If the fight is not going his way then there’s no way back, so he’s able to destroy the Josh Hendricks of the world and look like a worldbeater but goes to pieces when he can’t get a quick finish and just looks like a slow lumbering oath. Kongo’s the same type of fighter.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
I really like Gonzaga. I hope he can land somewhere and make a comeback.
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Even GG knew this was comin.
He tweeted earlier or y/day,that he couldn’t implement his bjj,and if he gets another chance…..
He knew,just like most of us did.Shame,so much talent but not enough belief.
"Hey, you got knocked out in the 3rd round, what happened there?"
Well, it's still a little hazy, but I believe that other gentleman was punching me in the face, and then I fell over??
by tap or snap bons on Oct 28, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
Strikeforce wont sign him but maybe Bellator will
Hes pretty much done just like Jardine, neither guy will make it outside of the UFC probably will be hearing them retiring in the near future.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
there is no way strikeforce can afford to add him to the roster when they allready have to pay fedor,overeem,barnett,a silva,andrei,werdum… i still cant belive coker hasnt just announced fedor vs barnett allready that is one of the few fights that can save strikeforce… instead we see babalu vs hendo … mmm how bout no…
After what happened to the last Fedor-Barnett fight it'll be tough to get M-1 to agree to another
And M-1 and SF have been having all sorts of problems in negotiations so any fight involving Fedor will be tough to book, plus after all of Barnett’s drug bans it’ll be tough to get him cleared in the US. Hendo-Babalu is an easier fight to put on as both guys are healthy, easy to clear and are on good terms with SF management plus both guys want a rematch (Hendo to prove he’s not past it and Babalu to avenge a defeat) so whilst it’s not the most exciting main event it’s an easy one to sign and promote.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Thats too bad, I still think hes a top ten heavey weight. I understanf the three stikes your out, but there are more guys in the UFC heaveyweight class who he would beat then lose to still
JDS and Carwin are no jokes to lose to either. I feel this is a hasty move
How is he still top 10?
He’s lost decisively to Werdum twice, Randy, JDS, Carwin and Schaub and his only big win is over Cro Cop. He’s nowhere near top 10, unless losing to better fighters including a young prospect in his 6th pro fight makes you world class. And he was hardly putting on performances to justify being one of the highest paid guys in the division.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Also, aside from the B.S. fight, he has had entertaining fights win or lose. Most were in the first round.
He knocked down Carwin, which I dont think anyone else has. This is bullshit. You cant throw someone in against top guys and kick them out if they lose. Thats the match makers fault for putting him in where he wasnt ready for. They could have just as easily put him in with lower ranked guys and he would have all wins. There system of cutting people is retarded.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda
Gonzolez’s problem is focus, plain and simple. He looked lackadasical at 121. Good cut by the UFC.
Talk about falling from grace
Just shows how talented the Heavy weight division is now…
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior
its not retarded its just the UFC's policy, you can't really sell a fight that would be billed "lost his last 3 v lost his last 4"
i don’t think werdum should have been cut, but for the premier mixed martial arts organization, losing is not an option, so to speak, and thats where strikeforce and bellator win..
by freedomthrtyfve on Oct 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
Werdum left.
Never cut.
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
really jay, so he jumped ship and wasn't pushed.....
so he decided to walk, before he was shoved…..your probably right, that was just for dramatic effect, i still like both of them, and if sf wasn’t involved, would see them back in the ufc pretty quickly, all it takes is a couple of wins… they need to train at a top gym though, like wolfslair……
by freedomthrtyfve on Oct 28, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Wolfslair is the best :)
He was asking for too much money and Dana said beat it. I guess it is like being dropped.
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
after submitting possibly the greatest HW ever, I think Dana shouldnt have been such a cheapskate with Werdum
by xquisitewretch on Oct 28, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
One of his few mistakes. He's usually pretty lucky with the talent he allows to leave.
Most of them end up sucking when they leave.
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
That will be another one.
Cote is going on a fucking run boys! I would not want to be a middleweight fighter in the MFC. Those guys don’t know what they got comin’.
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
The thing with Werdum is that he's inconsistent
He may decide that he doesn’t need to train after submitting Fedor and will show up out of shape again, or he could train like a madman and come back even better proving Dana to be an idiot for cutting him. YOu just can’t predict what mindset Werdum will show up in, at his best he’s very good and at his worst he’s a boring waste of space.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Agreed
He’s probabaly next, unless he agrees to a major pay cut which knowing Tito is very doubtful. He still gets paid main event money yet isn’t in the top 25 and hasn’t won a fight in years, I’ll be very surprised if he gets another fight. Unless his price tag drops dramatically he’ll probabaly retire.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Problem
I think his problem in his last fight was that he was trying for another Crocop finish. I think if he had a better gameplan he could have beat Schaub.
Not exactly a shock
Still, I’m a fan. His performance against Schaub sealed the deal. Not pretty.
Hey guys, I’m new here ( as a poster anyway) and I was hoping someone could tell me where to vote for QOTW. I haven’t found it and I’d like to vote and view the winner…..thanks in advance.
You're DEAD at recess.
by Scottidog on Oct 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Welcome
OJR makes QOTW fanposts for nominations and announcing the winner early in the week then voting for the top nominees on Fridays. They’re usually rec’d so they stay in the fanpost section for a few days.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Ahhhh nice
I’ll be sure to check that out.Thanks David. OJR as well
Now I have to stay up late and think of funny shit to say.
You're DEAD at recess.
i still believe he kicked the fighting spirit outta Crocop.
I like Gonzaga i like how he always want to give the fans a show by standing with all his opponents eventhough he has a great groundgame.
He is just suffering the Gurgel syndrom and he would be a great addition to SF HW roster if he decides to continue fighting
''You dont call retarded people retards, it's bad taste, you call your friends retards when they are acting retarded'' - Michael Gary Scott.
by robinhorobson on Oct 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lost 5 of his last 8...had to come sooner or later!
Hope Kongo gets his papers too for being such a dirty fighter, always grabbing shorts or kneeing balls.
Gabes KO of CroCop bought him some time,
man did they milk that for awhile. He never looked good after that!
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