Hi hater: Todd Duffee doesn't understand why you would hate Brock Lesnar
by Geno Mrosko on Oct 27, 2010 1:26 PM EDT
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From the Underground (via Bloody Elbow):
"I do not understand why people think if he loses his next fight he will walk away? I am not a fan nor do I hate the guy I think he has been very beneficial for the sport of mma and has earned his place with in the sport. It just bothers me that people tear this guy down so much when he clearly is dedicated and has the tools to be great. I honestly was rooting for cain(underdog shake up the division sounded fun) but the hate that brock has received is mind boggling and sickening. Can't we just be happy he went out an bared his soul in front of the whole world after committing his entire life to that moment against cain for four months prior. I don't get it any more the dude deserves everyones respect whether you like him or not."
Todd Duffee, a heavyweight prospect who was released from the UFC last month, speaks on the outcry amongst fans and media alike against Brock Lesnar after his first round drubbing at the hands of Cain Velasquez at UFC 121. Brock entered the fight with an aura of invincibility that Velasquez quickly stripped away with a barrage of punches that the big man could not withstand. After the loss, certain members of the media speculated as to whether or not Lesnar would decide to take his loss and go home. Duffee, despite Lesnar's track record, thinks the media needs to back off. Should we do just that or should we all be one big happy family as Todd wants us to be?
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Duffee is an idiot IMO
but i agree. people need to relax. Its the people who thought Brock was unbeatable that are the problem. Most of us knew he wasnt and just wanted to wait and see. Alot of us were agreeing that he couldve prob beat Carin, Cain and JDS in sequence but it woulda been hard. Didnt happen obviously but thats not an easy road for a green horn like Brock. Guys still a warrior and when he fights Mir again (ugh) hell get some much needed confidence back.
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
EXACTLY
It’s really not Brock that is the problem. It’s the fanboys that labeled him the next coming of christ after 4 UFC wins….4!
In hindsight, Brock ain’t so bad.
Brock will whip Mir…whip him.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Thats true SD. Truthfully I hate talking with people in person and seeing comments online after big fights. The winner is always great and a beast and people have been calling it, the loser is always overrated, done and was a never has been. Seriously, cant we just talk about the fight, talk about where each fighter goes from here, etc.
Cain was the better mixed martial artist. Size doesnt always prevail.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brock will not get better striking wise unless he changes camps. He will beat most of the HW's with little TDD and lost to the HW's with well rounded skills.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
There are not to many grapplers on his level period in MMA's HW division
grappling is what got him to this point but in the UFC. Carwin and Cain are levels ahead of any other fighter in the UFC so comparing how Brock did agaisnt them to anyone else is naive.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
You lost me.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Blow me.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That’s a bit lowbrow for you OJR, but it was well deserved. The elders have spoken. Burlzilla, blow him.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
I REALLY came from the streets, son. This kid ain't got ish on me.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
hey OJR, who won QOTW this week?
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Comes out on Friday.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
oops, my bad
i get a little confused by the rules and such. never been much fo book learnin’. gotta run, i’ve gotta shoot me some waterlemons.
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 27, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a ridiculous comment.
Carwin and Cain are levels ahead of any other fighter in the UFC so comparing how Brock did agaisnt them to anyone else is naive.
Different fighters bring different things into the octagon. He should be compared to every HW mixed martial artist. That’s who he has to fight!
Carwin stopped him the whole first round and beat him down.
He beat up a fresh Brock Lesnar, and Lesnar subbed a gassed Shane Carwin.
Brock doesn’t like to be hit and does not defend well once he catches a shot to the head.
It’s going to be his downfall.
Carwin>Lesnar in a rematch.
by Spiffy on Oct 15, 2010 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions
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yeah and Carwin and Cain ahve pretty much walked through everyone they faced
Now i want to take back the anyone else part….to most HW’s and maybe all others. Now with saying that yes he needs to fight other competition rather than Mir!! To improve his skills and get tested in other areas. Nobody’s unbeatable but losing the way he did Cain the way he did doesn’t mean another fighter will be able to do the same to him. Thats all I was trying to get at. Working at the same time as debating doesn’t always work.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Not entirely true since he did beat Carwin. I think his striking will improve maybe not enough to compete at elite levels vs guys with great TDD and hands like Cain. But shit man, you gotta appreciate the mans story. He started MMA in his 30’s and became relevent in the sport. He has only helped MMA.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have to appreciate nothing. If he did not act like such a prick then I would be cool with him. Arrogance and bluster are not attractive to everyone.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Take of the hate glasses...
didn’t you see the post fight interview. His initial foray was all about WWE bravado. Nothing more.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Yes. That was obvious. And I repeat : arrogance and bluster are not attractive to everyone - regardless of the inspiration.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yes, but he’s stopped that in the last couple fights, much as I would rather see him go back to the days of lassoing Herring and taunting Mir.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Yes. And that is why I love to hate him. UFC needs a black hat and he is it. No doubt. Its a great thing for PPV sales.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
A couple of thoughts from my POV-
I don’t really buy in to the whole “new, humble Brock” thing. He refers to himself in the 3rd person. Can you name one humble, non-douchebag that does that? I do appreciate the fact that on the surface he appears to be working on his image. I have to respect the fact that he’s trying to change. I have people in every sport that I “hate”(and let’s be honest, obviously we don’t know the guy, so we don’t hate him in the same way that we would hate an ex, or an old friend that screwed you over). Brock is that guy in MMA for me. I don’t like the way he acts, I don’t like the way he talks about himself, and I don’t like the way people talk about him. That’s just my personal opinion.
All that being said, no, he doesn’t suck. He’s a great athlete, and he has maxed out his God-given abilities. I never thought he was as good as some people claimed, but that doesn’t mean that he sucks either. He is still very new to the sport, and if he stays focused, who knows what will happen. You can “hate” someone and still see their athletic merit.
(I feel the same way about Tom Brady, for example. I just think he’s a douche, and I love to root against him. WTF has he ever done to me? Nothing, but that doesn’t change the fact that I can’t stand the guy.)
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
all of Brady’s accomplishments are tainted by Belicheat’s Belicheating.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Brady is a good QB in a GREAT system with a HOF coach. He is overrated so I understand the hate for him.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Please go back and look at all the great QB's and who they were throwing to.
Then look at Tom Brady’s WR’s from 2000 until they signed Moss (with whom they have won nothing). What do you see? Brady is the only three time superbowl winner without a HOF WR.
New England’s offensive system is nothing special, except for the QB.
New England’s coaching staff’s ability to milk every ounce of talent out of their team from 2001-2006, combined with the ability to lure quality veterans that believed what they were selling (and knew how to win), was extraordinary.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
I liken Brady to Joe Montana- he may not have the strongest arm, but the guy knows how to win.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
Brady is the man, he runs that team.
I love how if someone fucks up he gets in their face and headbuts them and shit, it’s fucking awesome. He doesn’t take shit from anyone and had three rings by the time he was 30 the guy is the man.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Brady is a modern day Montana. Good QB in a great system with a HOF coach. Montana is also overrated.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
4 rings.
That is all.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Belicheck and Walsh. That really is all.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That goes w/o saying. We were discussing Montana & Brady, though.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Oh, sry...I thought it was 4 rings, but I guess BB only has 3...
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
I thought he was referring to Montana.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
espn.com is just a few blocks down the information highway guys
talk about off topic
by xquisitewretch on Oct 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats the beauty of Mania - now how about you make yourself useful and post some booty pics? Yes? :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Montana has four rings is what I was refering to
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ulf - I think the fact that NE was successful in the year that Brady was out proves my point - or at least lends credence to my POV. And your last paragraph helps me out, also.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
They didn't win with Brady out.
Leaders, lead. Brady is a leader and a winner.
He is lock for the HOF and will go down top 5 all-time before he is done.
The last paragraph was specifically for the Defense, not the Offense.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
BTW - let me qualify overrated (as in he is good but does not stack up with other QB's)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Brady had the benefit of playing with some GREAT defenses. As they say, defenses win championships. Brady had to do little more than manage the game. How the guy could possibly be put above say, Peyton Manning, is ridiculous.
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
agree Dice
manning is the colts without manning the colts suck, without Brady the pats are still ok as we have seen.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Exactly. Without Manning the Titans would have about 12 straight division titles. Manning MAKES that team. Brady just takes a very good team and makes them great.
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
Brady doesn't have the talent that Manning does and he still finds a way to win year in year out.
Manning has had the talent to win many superbowls but he hasn’t and Brady has.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you talking about dooner? The Pats had some of the sickest defenses around when they won it all. Who has Manning had that is so great? Pierre Garcon?
You’ll notice that since they got caught cheating, and since the core of their defense isn’t there, the Pats haven’t been winning the big one.
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
Well you can't win it every year but they've been in the hunt.
And Dice I’m talking over the past ten years or so. And in the game of football cheating is encouraged that’s just a fact, players/coaches cheat on every single play
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Could you imagine Manning on the Pats!?
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Hell imagine manning on the Texans!!
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
^^this^^
And Imagine Brady on the Colts
It goes both ways
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Brady on the Colts = a worse Colt team than now in my opinion?
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Some people are just winners and Brady is one of them.
A great supporting cast helps but winners find a way to win.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Some guys are lucky to play on a great team as well
Ben is also a winner but not the calibure of QB Manning is, as Dilfer was a winner as well but that doesn’t mean he’s better than Manning or near the same calibure?
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
If you were to ask me
“who’s your quarterback to win a superbowl for your team?”
My answer is Brady
“Who’s your quarterback to get the most receivers to Hawaii?”
My answer is Manning
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If you were to ask me who the best QB is
I would say manning
If you were to ask me who played on a better team I would say brady
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
We're not getting anywhere now
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
opinions usually don't
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
And Ulf they did have Branch who was good in his time but I can't name another receiver on that team form that time
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Branch is not HOF
Montana-Rice
Favre-Sharpe
Bradshaw-Swann or Stallworth (both in)
Aikman-Irvin
Young-Rice
Kelly-Reed (even though they never won one)
Theismann-Monk
Elway – Smith and Sharpe
Brady – Branch??? really?
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Should have read the full comment didn't see HOF
I was just saying that he’s the best they’ve had and while he’s good, he doesn’t stack up to the aforementioned guys.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 27, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
But the fact that Deion Branch was an average WR makes the argument for Brady that much stronger...
Kevin Faulk was the primary RB and Deion Branch the #1 WR, but Brady is overrated? (per OJR)
Put Brady on SF in 1983 and they win 6 or 7.
Put Brady on Buffalo and they win 4 in a row.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
I can understand your POV - but Belicheck plucked Brady out from obscurity and put him in a great system. The fact that you can use cast off WR's makes my case as well.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Let's see...Product's of the system or really, really good underevaluated players:
James Harrison – undrafted FA
Tom Brady – 6th Round
Terrell Davis – 6th Round
Earnest Byner – 9th Round
Jamaal Anderson – 6th Round
Zach Thomas – 6th Round
There are many more examples of what hard work and determination can do for guys with “marginal” combine numbers. Footbal is more than bench pressing and fast 40’s. Ask Mike Mamula…
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
I do not disagree at all. I just place more value on coaching in football and in their systems. Example : Parcells - wins everywhere he goes. Belicheck is a Parcells product.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Tuna is vastly overrated.
He only won SB’s with the Giants before Free Agency really affected his teams.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Maybe. But wherever he goes - the franchises are better after his influence. Like you point out often - numbers do not lie.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
And just to reiterate - Brady is GOOD but not great.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Peyton - Elway - Marino - Bradshaw - Favre (at times)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
So you think that individual stats trump leadership and winning then?
I would take Brady over all of those guys, except maybe Elway, but he had a better supporting cast than Brady, by far.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Bradshaw was only on that team to not lose games.
Any of the other guys you named would have won 5 or 6 SB’s with that PGH defense and supporting cast.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
You would take Brady over Manning? For the lack of starpower that Brady had on offense, it was always made up for on defense. Manning has NEVER had a very good defense, let alone great. And you're underrating Brady's playmakers.
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
Brady did not win Superbowls 6-3
He scored points, lots of them. And I stick by my point about how poor his supporting cast was in comparison
Brady never had a RB like Edge or a WR like Marvin or Wayne. Not even close.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
I think that football is about the coaching and schemes more than individual players. But if you want me to name QB's who excelled then stats are telling.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Stats are telling...
Brady – 3 rings
Manning – 1 ring
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Indeed. Great coaching led to those stats. Punch up TD's, yards and such. I bet you have a different outcome. :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Marino has more than both
Who cares, he didn’t win.
The point is to win, not have the most TD’s or yards or individual stats.
WIN
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
There style's also led to problems for their defences
not being able to rest as much and the Dolphins had a pretty good squad on D. Manning manages the game very well and is control of the offence and rarely has the Colts D on the field much longer than their opponets and his D is not that good. Brady on the other hand does what he is told from a great coach and had a great D to back him up.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Yes. I agree. A great coach/scheme would have made Marino into a winner with a good team around him. You asked about who was a better QB - Marino is a better QB than Brady. Who was a better winner? Brady - of course.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Dice agree totally...
I don’t buy Brock humble approach either. A total PR move. I will never really the like the guy. He is an opinionted misanthropic hillbilly.
having said that, Brock is a beast and he could one day go one to be amazing. But I still will root against him.
“Tom Brady, for example. I just think he’s a douche, and I love to root against him. WTF has he ever done to me? "
He is preventing me from banging Gisele thats what he is doing directly to me. Well, he is at least lowering the odds…..0.0001% chance to 0.000000000000001 chance.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
That's the way I feel about Jessica Alba's rich baby daddy. That motherfucker.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
He is a dead man!!!
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
I'm gonna get Cain to whoop his ass!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
but then sweet, sweet jessica would go with him
we’re fucked,
What are we gonna do.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Curses! Foiled again!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I see where your coming from OJR, but that persona has shot MMA into new levels, more viewers, etc. Every sport has one man, he is humble when he is humbled and a royal arrogant ass when he isnt. We all have that in us in some form right?
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course - except that when you join a new club, team, etc. - you should be humble at the beginning, right? Unless you think its ok to be a dick from the get go as a newb competitor.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+ 1
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
When Herring and Mir spend months talking about how this isn’t fake fighting and belittling everything Brock had done to that point, regardless of what you think of ‘rasslin, and then he owns them in the cage, why shouldn’t he give it back to them?
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
After the fight is over, all of that should end. Winning should be enough.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I disagree its not all about winning and losing. Ask Jake Shields vs Kampmann
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They talked shit about each other?
I’m not following ANS.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
No I mean winning isnt enough. Not shit talking wise. But i mean in MMA winning isnt always enough. Shields was guaranteed a title shot, then wins but loses.
Herring and Mir trashed on Brock hardcore calling his past profession a joke, they were going to do this do that and then when Brock wins of course he will have an adrenaline dump. Not even Brock likes to be belittled and ridiculed.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like Mir or Herring either - for the same reasons. They had no business being idiots, either.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
So long as your consistent I can respect that.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You must respect me - I have a righteous goatee.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Thats true. I thought Brock did his beard to try to maybe possibly one up you….. if thats the case…. he failed.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Damned straight! If Shields had a goatee - he would not have gassed! Pass it on.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ive been begging for Diegos stache and curls to come back
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
El Dirty Sanchez. YES!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
“Ive been begging for Diegos stache and curls to come back”
interesting…this is maybe a clue to your identity.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
The other shirtless guy in that photo that keeps popping up?
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
LOl
no, but that sure sounds like ANS has a Diego-ness to his appearnce.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
ANS...
Are you Carwin?
Not based on the Diego comment…just…hmmmm
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Carwin
has alot of weight on me Striker. Although at times I do wish I was a HW. I could eat whatever I wanted to eat.
And I just like Diego when he had his curls. Vintage KOTC Diego.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmmm
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
you are a little late to the party on this one SD
Small guy with a few tats. Probably hispanic. That is all I will say, ok, ok, probably not….
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
By the way where the hell have you been?
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Your story is WAY more interesting than his
no offense SD.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
I know but not interesting to me, SD is one of my favorite people on this site.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I know
But you seem to be back and it is hard not to ask you about this stuff. I know it must be annoying as hell for you, but I just can’t help myself.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
and sadly
I know why SD wasn’t around. I need to spend less time on here :)
1. He got sick of us
2. Busy holiday work schedule
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
1. Personal Issues.
2. Professional Issues.
That pretty much covers it. Haha.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and sadly
I know why SD wasn’t around. I need to spend less time on here :)
1. He got sick of us
2. Busy holiday work schedule
The best I have seen it put.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Look SD. If you leave again im kicking your ass. By way of internet of course.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats also true. If someone spends their time taking shots at me there will be alot of emotion running for me. I am not saying he handled it right but I dont entirely blame him
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly p-dub
Those who bag on him get the treatment. He was nothing but respectful to Randy, Carwin and Cain
Bc he got handled in those fights. Randy controlled him and Cain and Carwin beat the piss out of him!
And Carwin had plenty of bad things said about Brock before the fight.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
What carwin said was nothing to what mir and Herring had to say
There was no trash talk with Randy and he hardly got owned, thats why he didn’t get the treatment.
Explain the burrito and Corona comment - an obvious play on Cain's Mexican heritage.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Truthfully OJR, they kept insisting on Brock to comment on the heritage angle and Brock declined MANY times. Many times. But if you took that as more then a joke then you looked way more into it then you needed too.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And what about Cain saying, “hey esse, why you keep shooting my fruit, homes?”
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Hahaha! That was me, PW. I love my waterlemons!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
every time i read waterlemons i laugh my ass off
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 27, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like an excuse, ANS. Let me ask you this : would Randy have made a comment like that? Thought so.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
No, your right OJR. But when Brock said that he was joking it wasnt a bash on Cain or Mexicans. It was a joke after being hounded to comment on it. Sure he could have gone the other road and not said it but thats what has made him a superstar.
He actually has a personality, unlike Cain.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Cain is as exciting as a statute. Agreed.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I am a huge Cain fan OJR so let me make that clear but man the dude is pretty flat. Brock on the other hand has a truck load of personality.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that Eddie Guerrero is dead, Cain needs to bring back the Latino Heat persona.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
That 2 Mexicans that beat Brock! Bwahahaha!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
ANS did you see the interview Cain had with TMZ?
He actually has a great personality and loves Dexter, one of the best TV shows!
He just hasn’t shown a lot of it before because he didn’t do many interviews.
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Not yet I havent. Ill try to catch it today.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It's 40 minutes long. But they ask him all kinds of fun questions, good times if you have time to watch it
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Actually I just watched the Countdown show last night on my DVR(it was pretty cool seeing the buildup and comments knowing who won).
You don’t hear the question asked, but Brock looks at the camera and says, “Hey Cain, how about after I whoop your ass I eat a burrito and drink a Corona to celebrate your heritage.” Maybe this was just frustration at being asked about Cain’s heritage, but it actually came off really bad.
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
Being a dick doesn't mean you have loads of personality, it just means that you're a dick!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
It's Primetime, hypeing the fight is not reality
He also made a lot of positive comments, and after Cain beat kongo Brock stated that Cain would be a great challenge and that Cain was a good fighter. When your watching shows like Primetime it’s mostly hype FYI.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Get out? Really?
lol So, you think Brock is a nice classy guy? Wake up
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
He's a nice guy.
Brock’s wrestling is more overrated than his 280lbs frame and athleticism. Cain would have outwrestled that ass up and down the mats in pure wrestling all day long and you all know it. Sidenote all hail NNR
Cain is w/o a doubt the greatest HW that has ever stepped foot in the ufc! The only belt Brock will ever get back is in the WWE. Hail king cain P4P best on the planet!
I remember Randy getting a few shots in, doing good in the clinch.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes and that's what he might have meant. Remember Brock beat him after a good punch to the face not via GnP.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
True. Randy did very well. But Randy has always defied odds man. Thats what makes Randy… well Randy.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the same BS as AA was getting the better of Fedor
Or that Rogers was as well. In the end the win is what these guys fight for regardless how.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Or another one Kongo rocked Cain and Kongo sucks??
STFU
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Kongo was a precise striker who tagged Cain getting over anxious in the pocket. Cain improved. Made changes. Becase a better MMAer
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that fans always say this and this happen so that means this will happen is BS
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
LOL But it still happened!
Fact, AA was out boxing Fedor until he got destroyed with that one punch! I have never said that before, but it’s true. And it’s not like Randy was throwing Brock around, but being undersized by around 50 lbs he controlled him pretty well.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I love how people keep pointing to that
He outboxed him for about 3 minutes and landed how many punches? How much damage? Fedor was feeling him out, was never in any trouble. He didn’t land one significant punch in that fight (AA that is). He may have looked good for a few minutes, but man, that isn’t really saying much.
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I agree and like I said, I've never said that before. It was brought up, so I commented on it.
Fedor isn’t as great as you guys think he is. If he were than he wouldn’t be scared of the UFC. And yes, he is scared bc he knows he can’t beat the big 4! To me thats a fact and no one will convince me otherwise. A UFC reject helped prove that.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
+1 PDub
Mir talked so much trash about Lesnar before that second fight I started to hate him. He talked about Brock like he was a complete joke. He gave him no respect whatsoever. But no one ever mentions that.
by Craigo8609 on Oct 27, 2010 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Right, thats correct I am with you. But man this guy was thrusted into the spotlight since day one and was casted as the bad ass, the guy who will wreck through MMA, etc and immediately guys had this bad image of him. Its not entirely his fault. I mean people love to hate this guy, so he gives you all what you want.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No I don't have to "appreciate" the story!
And just bc he started MMA in his 30’s, he has been wrestling his whole life, so big fn deal! Wrestling is by far the most important thing to possess in MMA IMO!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
We seem to get more and more of that crap on here
It is pretty damn annoying. I think Brock and Mir III is definitely going to happen. I cannot wait for the JDS/Cain fight. Equal size, different skill set. We have heard for years about how good JDS is on the mats, I was hoping that BC would test that, but we didn’t see any of it. I really don’t know who I will pick in that fight.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
I hope your wrong about Brock and Mir 3
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Me too
But Dana loves money and trilogies so itll happen.
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
It’s too easy to sell to the masses and a sure W for Brock. It will happen. Hopefully Brock chooses to keep it standing just to learn how to get hit from someone who is not a threat to knock him loopy or unconscious. then he can move on. Baby steps.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Watch after the Cain Fight. If JDS wins, Cain was overrated, he sucks and he only beat an even more overrated Brock. If Cain wins JDS has been exposed, overrated, etc,
We just need to appreciate the positivity of each and every fight and fighter
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That is the kind of stuff that really makes me not want to log on
I find it infuriating. Then when JDS loses, everyone will start dissecting his resume, do the hokey pokey, some shotty mma math- and we are back to “he is overrated”, “no he is overrated” which then turns into “my dad will beat up your dad” – nah ah “superman would kill batman”. Fucking nincompoops.
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by Deuce02 on Oct 27, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
The after fight accusations need to be scaled back greatly. Damn bandwagoners. coughfreenowcough
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
Amen, brother.
Glad you are back. How was your fight? Are you still managing other guys?
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
I don't get it? U know ANS' identity? Or did I completely miss the joke
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
This reminds me of machida
Everyone talks like the guy is trash, but his record is still impressive and he is a ver technical smart fighter. People act like losing the belt means the end of a career
by soupdz28 on Oct 28, 2010 1:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Respect Brock? Yes. Hate him? YES. *doing the Mexican hat dance*
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I concur. And as reasonable people its our job to try and settle those Brock is Jesus freaks as they go but not our problem if they dont wanna listen to the truth.
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
You have a good point Striker
The same is said about Fedor fanboy’s that label him god. But hate is ignorance and neither fighter deserves it, blaming it on fans is ignorant as it gets.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Boy, I sure am thirsty! *reaching for a Corona*
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Good for you, douche bag!! j/k
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
There goes OJR being a dick again. You dick.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
My dick is as big as a ...burrito! (yes, I will take the cheap jokes while I can)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You can't even see your dick when you pee OJR
I think you ment you wish your dick was as big as a burrito
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
How about 2 tamales tied together?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
tamales?
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Puck, you need to familiarize yourself with Mexican food to accurately guage the size of OJR’s dick.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Whoosh! Over 'is head, mate.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah I don't know my mexican food you got me OJR
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
All in fun.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Puck time 2 man up on our bet brotha!
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Let’s see.
Pea-sized brain: Check.
Out of proportion torso with bony ridges atop an elongated cranium: Check.
Inability to adapt to areas where smarter, more advanced mammals thrive (Canada): Check.
Arms are mostly useless appendages, except for holding down prey: Check.
Facing imminent and absolute extinction (October 23rd): Check.
Yeah, the Brockosaurus is a dangerous beast, to be sure. I’ll let my T-Mex do the back-riding. I call him Cain.
by d*locc on Oct 27, 2010 3:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cain Train?
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Jesus, PuckHead. Your sig is going to be longer than your dick, bro.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
puck you can cut the last sentence of my sig.
I thought it was for two sentences…good faith error.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
What's with you and dicks today?
Sad thing it is true it’s almost as big…almost.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
is it two "lines" long?
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Hahaha!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
:D
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
you gonna change it?
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
but you should also drop....
“Yur new sig will be ""
Thats not in the spirit of the bet.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Once Synyster gives me his sig I'll change it until then yours will be his as well
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
I really don't see how that is apples and apples Pucky
Fedor actually spent a career earning those labels. Brock is a newb, yes, he is a beast, but with such a limited resume- it was asinine to think that we could accurately say how he would fair against different kinds of fighters. Fedor had faced every type of fighter and beat them at their strengths. Not saying I think anyone is god, but that is where I see the distinction.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
Ya
Fedor has definately earned most of his accolades. People just got their panties in a knot cuz hes not in the UFC and isnt fighting top comp every day. It pisses me off too and it makes him slide a bit in my eyes but you cant take away from what hes already accomplished.
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
Fedor is the greatest ever but his past accomplishments mean little with the best today
Werdum is the best current day fighter Fedor has faced and he lost. JDS, Brock, Cain, Carwin, Mir and Overeem were all ranked as better fighters and these guys are the current day best. I’m not saying Fedor would lose either but he needs to prove it.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
I just don't see that
Yes, he had some questionable guys, but he has fought the best available. As much as we want to dismiss AA and Timmay- they were at the top of the pile when he fought them. To say they are cans (then) is a bit silly to me. The Tire Guy- yes, that was a silly fight and that guy didn’t deserve to be in there with him.
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I don't think any of them were cans Deuce
they jsut don’t warrant elite status
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Agree to disagree. I know I was very, very excited when AA and Fedor mixed it up, same with Timmay and Fedor. I didn’t like either of those guys, but they were certainly relevant, ranked HWs. And he destroyed them both. Utter destruction.
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One punch KO's, nothing more.
While impressive, they still were just one-punch KO’s.
Pain Train is a farce
Like Brock Lesnar has no heart
OJR speaks Truth
Oh yeah. One punch rendered him virtually unconscious, then fedor choked his corpse.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
lol
hahhahaha
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
I was very excited to see Timmay and AA fight Fedor.
It was a “worlds collide” type of fight.
Was the former UFC champ as good as the former Pride champ.
How about a more athletic, more epic-ly bearded (more than Brocks) Russian (so he isn’t afraid of the russian mystique) AA do.
I remember liking it when I saw both of those match ups being announced.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Not nearly as exciting as when Barnett and Fedor was announced.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Really?
We have different opinions, and that is fine. But, I was way more excited for the AA fight. AA was one of the best in the world at the time. I have never really been impressed with Barnett.
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Barnett is one of my fauvorites so that could be a reason
but also at the time Barentt was much more proven and one of the best in Pride many believe 2nd best including myself. Fans wanted to see Fedor vs the best possible and thats why I think AA rank changed to 2 but there is no way I see AA ever having a chance agaisnt Barnett. It’s a fight we may possibly see now?
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
I wasn't that excited as I wanted Barnett and Fedor from day one in Affliction
And your right he schooled them but neither of them warrant worlds best.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
That I disagree with
Tim fought for the UFC title in his last fight before fighting Fedor. If a guy who just fought for the belt in the biggest promotion in the world didn’t deserve him, who does?
AA was on a 5 fight win streak over good opponents (Rothwell, Nelson, Werdum) and was also ranked top 10 when he fought Fedor.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
Tim lost to NOG, Couture and Mir before he left the UFC
These are guys many of the Brock haters try and bring down agaisnt Brock. I wathced of coarse but these guys are not on the level of Mir let and thats my point they are not top level competition. Overeem also needs to face better fighters but his are on the same level as Fedors as of late besides Werdum of coarse
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
I put all those guys on the same level
Nog, Mir, Couture, Timmay, AA- they are all on the same level basically in my book (at least for the timeframe we are talking about).
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
The AA fight was hardly "utter destruction"
fedor was getting owned in the standup till he landed the hail mary.
He took no damage
AA looked good dancing around, but he didn’t hurt him once. AA looked good for about 3 minutes.
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
No, Brock is a fn piece of trash! That's why I hate him!
No class at all! My question is, how can you like him? To me that says a lot about a person.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
^^ Irony ^^
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Not really. Look it up!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
reality is..
Brock thought he was baddest man on earth ..and a lot people added fuel to his ego …Brock is a bully that thinks he can conquer the with his size and intimidation …Didn’t exatctly worked out that way with Cain..
by pugilista2010 on Oct 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brock is a bully that thinks he can conquer the with his size and intimidation
You don’t know that, your just making sh^t up. Pretty much everbody that knows Brock as a person say he is one of nicest guys, it ignorant fans like yourself that hate because your stupid to undertand reality from fight hype.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
getting in Mir's face after he had smashed him
Shoving a law enforcement officer …that’s bullying in my book!
by pugilista2010 on Oct 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats also being caught in the moment full of adrenaline.
by AintNoSunshine on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
that's very true ...
Thank God that officer kept his emotions and adrenaline on check ….he could have pulled his gun and shot him…oh wait lesnar isn’t Mexican maybe that explains everything …
by pugilista2010 on Oct 27, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Love how the cop just takes it. No alternative.
Question. If Jardine was suspended for pushing that official at Shark Fights will Brock face any sort of repercussions for this?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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You have to take it as a LE officer. You have a responsibility to be calm and cool. His role is more important than Brock's. More evidence of Brock being a prick^^^ - and it ain't about the PPV sales.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah he wanted to get in the octagon and was pumped up what a prick!!
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yup. Lots of fighters get pumped up w/o having to shove people out of the way. He is a prick. Its ok though - it sells PPV's.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
OK Miss OJR
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Haha! I will be very honest with you - if anybody shoves me like that - it is on, bro. I give much credit to that cop.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Brock wasn't doing it in an aggressive way.
And it’s not like the cop would take it if he was.
The cop let it go because he understood it was more about getting to the ring.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Maybe that was his line of reasoning as well, SD. Still no reason for it and I am not saying because its Brock. That applies to all fighters in that situation.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
the gif cracks me up :) glad we are both happy haha
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
damn gif
bein so slow for me. i never heard he pushed a cop….thats crazy. if jardine got punished i say brock has to get something. if not thats preferential treatment and….wait what am i saying? its brock lesnar …he can do whatever he wants. SIGH
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
It is only slow while loading, once it has all the images it will be fast
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Classic Wandy!!
The gif reminds me of Wandy in old days for some reason. Wandy the fighter was fierce but outside very calm and cool.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
It speaks to the cop's integrity. He could have been waiting after the fight was over with handcuffs for Brock - that is assaulting an officer. And the charges would have stuck.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah those charges would of stuck OJR...not.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
You are right - I forgot that Brock is a big celebrity, they never pay for their crimes. You got me, PH.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
And like thats never happen before
The man is jacked up ready for war(no matter how the fight turned out) and your complaining? Your name shouldn’t be OJR it should be patty griffen…“look at the mean man push the cop” :)
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
PS Thanks for the 2 line sig that we bet on Striker
Yur new sig will be " d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Not complaining - its just proof that he is a prick. It does not get much more clear than that - no matter how you spin it.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You don't know what his mind set was OJR
Did you see all the arms reaching out from the crowd? He probably didn’t even know it was a cop and wanted to get to the octagon ASAP. Sitting on the coach it’s easy to say though.
As it turns out StrikerDave was right all along and I was horribly wrong, and now I am crying like a little schoolgirl. After all my loudmouthing Brock Lesnar has no chin, no striking, no practical wrestling, no TDD, no heart, and no valid excuse for being this terrible, I just was too blind/stupid to see it.
" d*locc please give me a pass aboard the Cain Train! I promise never 2 question yur knowledge or cains gr8ness again "
Ok,that's fair.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
almost whatever he wants
Unless he didn’t really want to beat cain…and look like a total n00b while being destroyed
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Oct 27, 2010 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who cares
If I want to hate I will. This kids still butthurt Dana handed his ass to him.
Been a fan of Cain Velasquez and Mauricio Rua from day 1.
Been watching MMA from day 1.
Current MMA record: 28-0
by danago on Oct 27, 2010 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lol
good stuff
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
Todd Duffee
Maybe if he asks nicely, Dairy Queen will give him his old job back?
In fighting and everyday life you should be determined, though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness, yet not recklessly; your spirit settled, yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak, and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.
Zing! Very nice!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Off topic
But some good banter going on today. Im actually upset i have to go to work and make money hahah id rather make nothing and argue with you bastards hahah
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
I'm new here to Mania
but I’ve lurked for a while. This is one hell of a community.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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For those of you who haven't seen this, here is Cain on Lopez having a PBJ sandwich and Milk, a real american meal:
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Where was the Campbell's soup and a
Budweiser? ? Oh wait Budweiser isn’t American anymore ..
by pugilista2010 on Oct 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
That's incredible.
Well done.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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hahahahh
that PB n J thing is hillarious. So is that brock pic. good job guys. and yes this is one hell of a community. i could no longer just read.
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
Only taking credit for googling, I don't make them, just find them
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
if that was to me
thanks
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
and i thought i was the only
One that noticed D Whites displeasure …“oh shit poster boy just got smashed like a bad guamole”
by pugilista2010 on Oct 27, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think everyone is reading into that way too much
Dana either has one of two looks going at all times:
1. I am dickhead from Boston
2. Shit eating grin
Dave Bautista: UFC Heavyweight Champ in 2011
haha I can't disagree. Still a funny gif though
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
lol
nice assessment Deuce.
The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
i agree deuce. i dont think he looks pissed. just a normal face. i bet he was more upset when page kayoed liddell than when cain beat lesnar
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by Andrew Keller on Oct 27, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The way I see it:
The Dana moment is when he can’t look Brock in the eyes. It’s not that he is pissed, the humor in the gif is that Brock is sad that Dana wouldn’t look at him.
Another loss to kg12, the original conductor of The Cain Train. Velasquez > Lesnar = UFC HW Champ. Brocktober is over, forever.
Actually, it was Dana saying,’ Brock, for the love of god, don’t say the word ‘refritos.’"
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
he was probably scared to get poped in the head...
by the way we are taking game 1 tonight P DUB
by pugilista2010 on Oct 27, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
When you say we, to whom exactly do you refer?
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
El beisbol?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Greatest....gif....ever.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
Duffe has been to too many 'fiestas' and found his own ship sink not too long ago.
Lesnar was good at pointing his finger at the opponents he defeated and rubbing it in that he was the ‘baddest man on the planet’. His demeanor and whole arrogant attitude is what turned most people against him. Now, the whole MMA community is shaking their finger in lesnar’s face….your past will come back to haunt you….for sure!!!
Duffee is a class act
And a good fighter.
I’m glad he came out and said this. Now I’m not a Brock lover by any means, trust me. I resent him for many of the braggart claims he made, and for having a glass jaw. But I’ll give him credit for his effort and raw talent, which I’m sure we’ll see back in the cage at some point.
But Duffee is just trying to get us all to have a more respectful discourse about all this, and about fighters in general. I appreciate him coming out and saying it the way he did, and I also hope to see him in the cage again himself in the near future.
Did I miss something?
Have there been scores of MMA pundits and analysts calling Brock a sissy and saying he should go back to WWE. Posters on forums may be, but people say stupid shit on forums all day every day.
Is it wrong to say Brock was destroyed, exposed or that he doesn’t respond well to punches to the face? Is it wrong to speculate on how he will rebound?
I fail to see any Brock bashing from anyone that should be listened to. Maybe Brock’s WWE fan converts are still a little sore from Saturday night.
Brock obviously thought that he had trained good for the fight, And he obviously got the crap beat outta him. It happens people…. I think that Brock will never have truly effective stand up, he should get back to what he is comfortable with and that is his ground game. I think that he gave up on it to fast in the fight, after he took Cain down and Cain popped right back up. He’ll be back.
I didn't care much for the WWE heel act
but give credit where it’s due. The guy strolled into the HW division with very limited MMA and really made a splash. Obviously, his last two matchups didn’t make him look like a worldbeater but he certainly proved he is more than Frank Mir gave him credit for. I’m with Deuce…..it’s frustrating to see all the “experts” come out of the woodwork after the fact.
Everybody loses. Brock has work to do. I’m not even a huge fan but I can’t argue with the incredible athleticism and committment to the sport.
You're DEAD at recess.
by Scottidog on Oct 27, 2010 8:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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