Cheick Kongo: 50 percent of MMA fighters take steroids
by MMAmania.com on Oct 14, 2010 11:20 PM EDT
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"50 percent [of MMA fighters take steroids], if not more.... What can I say, other than we need to stay away from all of that. It's not easy to put things into perspective, especially if you believe that you have a disadvantage from the get go. For some athletes, it's hard to hold up physically and mentally- the pressure, the obligation to stay on top - everything pushes you to take steroids. For me, PEDs aren't the solution. Taking PEDs jeopardizes your health and it's cheating. I am a fighter; I owe my victories to my hard work, my training, the fact that I push myself beyond the limit, the sacrifices I make to a life almost entirely dedicated to sports. Nothing else. Stay away from the needles. You can succeed without them."
Shredded heavyweight fighter Cheick Kongo weighs in on steroids in mixed martial arts, striking a similar chord to other fighters who estimate that the performance-enhancing problem is much bigger behind the scenes than it appears publicly. Kongo, whose physique looks like it was chiseled out of Greek marble, has had to beat back unfounded steroid allegations throughout his career. It's all just a byproduct of hard work, and likely good genes, he says. But he takes the issues one step farther, saying that the drug problem is widespread. Is the Parisian, as well as the others (Ken Shamrock, Dennis Hallman, etc.) who have blown the whistle on rampant steroid use, revealing a sad truth or is he just painting recklessly with broad strokes? The number of fighters who have tested positive in recent months/years in relation to the large number of them who have come up clean would suggest he's way off base. But where there's smoke there is often fire -- are most fighters just one step ahead of the commissions that test them? Can it really be that many? Let's hear it, Maniacs.
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Cheick's Wrongo
But if he isn’t, that means half of the fighters at his Wolfslair gym are juicing. 50%, right? How ’bout it Cheick?
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
I would def say more than 50%!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
it's likely more than 50% of all top mma fighters.
anyone in cycling will tell you it’s impossible to win tour de france unless they’re doping.
ballz to the wallz !
I feel that whenever someone says "most of the athletes I compete with are on steroids."
it usually just means that they are making excuses for their own personal use.
by naturalshadow on Oct 16, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when I do that...
Anyway, I’d wager large sums of money that Kongo, himself, has more than a little experience with PEDs.
by TheFriendlySponge on Oct 14, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What qualifies you to say he is wrong...
I’m not saying he’s right, but when guys (i.e. the fighters) who have a more of an insiders perspective than anyone make these types of claims I am slower to write them off.
I think you missed my point
Which is: What would his answer be if the question was “Does one out of every two fighters at Wolfslair use steroids?” Start with that before calling out the rest of the sport.
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Oct 15, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Wolfslair
Wolfslair is the only MMA academy that Tests Its Own Fighters for Performance-Enhancing Drugs .
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“Steroids in the sport, we go one step beyond in the Wolfslair,” McGann said. “Pre-fight, our guys, we in-house test. Not for the fact that we think they’re using or whatever, just for our own reputation with the UFC. We never want to get tarred with that brush. So we do a lot of in-house testing on ourselves. Out there people do it. You do it you’re going to get caught. The Nevada State Commission is very good at this now.”
In general, drug testing in sports is the exclusive domain of the leagues and governing bodies. It’s rare for a gym to test its own athletes, but Wolfslair (which trains, among others, Michael Bisping, Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and Cheick Kongo) is going an extra mile to maintain a squeaky-clean image.
Then you sir prove my point
If everyone at Wolfslair is clean as you’re suggesting, then Cheick’s wrong because 50% is one out of every two.
Unless it’s balanced out by another gym where everyone is dirty.
You could go back and forth with this all day. I just believe it was a reckless thing to say and serves no purpose.
Why is he attacking his own sport? What is he trying to accomplish?
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Oct 15, 2010 11:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
50 percent [of MMA fighters take steroids], if not more….
SAYS THIS GUY
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 15, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Cheech kongo
Cheech only smokes pot. don’t believe he does any other drugs.
I agree
That picture looks like he has the natural frame for his muscle build. As we all saw Overoids in Pride to now, you don’t just blow up into a muscle man in your mid to late 20’s when you were and active athlete before and looked lean at 205.
by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 15, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe i see something different.
Dude is one of the BIGGEST and most RIPPED there is in the UFC. Shredded. Pecks are like basketballs.
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 15, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Facts are meaningless.
You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!-Homer Simpson
Hadoken!!
by your logic so does brock
Neither man ever tested positive in the UFC.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least 50%do what stupid people dont understand is that steriods is not just used to 'look good or enhance performance' its also used to recover from injuries
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
Probably shouldve just added this for those dumb ass people in first post
If you want to feed yourself or worse yet your family you cannot afford to be sidelined 6+months especially with the current mma wages so the choice is rather simple take steriods recover way faster and fight again feed yourself/family and continue fighting or starve/bum around for 6months/find a job in this amazing economy we have.
Thats not to say that its the only reason or even the main reason why fighters take steriods but its definitely one of them. Its also the reason why Brock took steriods along with 100%of the people who performed in the wwe and any of those wrestling shows, the fighting is fake but the injuries are REAL and they have to perform far far more often then ANY boxer/thai/mma fighter does.(steriods/hgh are the only things that will allow them to continue performing as often as most wrestlers do and at the level in which they do)
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on Oct 14, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
HGH helps you recover 10x more than steroids do! Plus it's only detectable in a blood test, which they don't do.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
O ya......lol
nothings gonna help you recover from torn cartalige that much faster or ligament damage but it sure as hell makes waking up in the morning easier when your not sore to the point of being unable to walk
by Weedsuplement on Oct 15, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Kongo speaks the truth
I believe that 90% of all athletes take peds. Maybe Kongo so to does himself but if he’s making such a statement than i would think he wouldnt.
Its real easy to find a way around the testing for such peds. HGH is a ped that isnt even tested and there are many, many more that the athletic commissions dont have the tech to detect most of the peds. Only the stupid ones get caught.
With that said. Its really sad that alot of athletes cheat. I can only wish that every sport can be clean.
Hunting down one zuffazombie at a time.
by Ronin Noremlas on Oct 14, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
then i wouldnt think he would**
damn typos…
Hunting down one zuffazombie at a time.
by Ronin Noremlas on Oct 14, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Cheick...
The number of guys who do roids at my gym, who are just casual body builders, is insanely high. Now imagine you’re getting injured on a daily basis, doing three a days like a professional fighter. There’s a way to flush your system so you don’t test positively for these steroids, and you know, personally, that other fighters in your gym are using them too. Why wouldn’t you take them? I’ve seen my friends who have sustained some pretty bad injuries, muscle tears, broken bones, etc. The ones who took growth hormones and other steroids, were almost always back in action within a couple of weeks. It’s scary how much steroids helps you to recover. Especially in mma, where fighters don’t have the luxury of million dollar pay days like boxers do, and if you get injured during training and fighting is your primary source of income, you’re pretty much screwed. So I can’t blame fighters for wanting to take steroids, and because of this, I can believe that many of them do take PEDs.
Great post! And it is crazy how many guys/girls take them just to look good!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
If there was no way round the system
People wouldn’t do them at all! I think the guys who’ve been caught are just the careless ones! I’m not defending the usage of steroids at all but the difference between fighting and having a lay-off due to injury might also mean whether the fighters pay their mortgage or not. I imagine the amount of people using PEDs is much higher than we think.
I’d like to think this issue will go away in time as fighters get paid more and can afford to take a year off here or there. Sadly the same pressures will continue as the sponsors get bigger!!
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
by Kenwoo on Oct 15, 2010 1:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Kongo is right. All the guys that come out with the truth say about every other guy is using them.
The other half are drinking there own piss to enhance.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 15, 2010 3:25 AM EDT reply actions
Look Out...
Dana is giong to be PISSED! He sure wasn’t happy when Koscheck called out GSP and the next day Koscheck kept his mouth shut and if I remember right made somewhat of a retraction on his statement. Plus, if one were to pick a UFC fighter out as someone that looks like they do roids, Kongo would be near the top IMO.
Kongo looks more natural than not.
I would say more genetics than, chemically assisted. Look at him compared to Overeem. Kongo is big and shredded but he also still looks athletic, there is nothing over the top about him. A lot of the sprinters look as powerfully built, although they obviously do not have the frame Kongo has.
“You can succeed without them”
I believe Kongo doesn’t juice.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss
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anyone remember that documentary that was on mtv(i think)
Followed 3 people using steroids, one a bodybuilder who wanted the cover of a magazine, an amateur mma fighter, and a gay guy who just wanted to look good…was pretty interesting…there was one part where the one guy was working out a few hours after his first injection and he was like " this may seem egotistical, but I don’t feel like a man right now, I feel like a god" and he was being dead serious…lol..just a wee bit narcisisstic, buddy
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by salamagogo on Oct 15, 2010 8:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd say 50 percent or higher
the amount of guys in my highschool gym that took steroids were staggering – and this was 15 years ago! I was a sprinter and a rugby player, and what pisses me off about steroids is the amount of guys that juice up and raise their numbers considerably, get scholarships, only for their numbers to go down because college competition tends to test for it. Even in my regular gym the juiceheads probably outnumber the natural dudes.
50 percent MMA fighters are complete idiots
starting with Cheick Kongo
by Stonian Prince on Oct 15, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
Kongo doesn't do roids
I ran into Kongo recently, dude isn’t a big as you think. Small waist and broad shoulders make him look a lot bigger. If him and Brock were to stand side by side, Brock would make Kongo look like a tooth pick.
Sometimes Performance is the most important
Steroids don’t give you the technique or speed in your movements. But with the stakes it is unthinkable that it does not happen.
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