Brock Lesnar predicts second round TKO win over Cain Velasquez at UFC 121 (Video)
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I`m thinking first round but Brock might be right?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He’s only doing it to make sure everyone feels like they got their money’s worth.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
And some say he`s not a nice guy?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
The next HW Champ...Cain Velasquez
Anyone else for a 1 week Sig bet? I’m on with Freenow, any other takers?
"Oh hell son, i was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth....hell, you can even be fifth" - Reese Bobby
by kg12 on Oct 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you see that?
First and foremost I want to say wow him on a speed bag is laughable. I really like the new Brock he is nowhere near as cocky as he used to be. Who knew it only took near death to teach the guy some humility. I just see this as Cain’s fight all day on the feet and he has good enough wrestling to stuff Brock. I will even go so far to say he can take Brock down and if that happens its over. I like Brock better than Cain mind you. I am just over the Brown Pride crap and acting like he is fighting for his people. I like Brock because he is real what you see is what you get. He is no Tito Ortiz he did not make excuses over losing to Mir he was just mad that the ref Maz didn’t stop it sooner. If Brock had Carwin’s standup I think he could hold the belt as long as he wanted. When your one dimensional it catches up to you and we all know Cain has the cardio to push the pace tire him out and get the take down.
X3
Let’s see.
Pea-sized brain: Check.
Out of proportion torso with bony ridges atop an elongated cranium: Check.
Inability to adapt to areas where smarter, more advanced mammals thrive (Canada): Check.
Arms are mostly useless appendages, except for holding down prey: Check.
Facing imminent and absolute extinction (October 23rd): Check.
Yeah, the Brockosaurus is a dangerous beast, to be sure. I’ll let my T-Mex do the back-riding. I call him Cain.
by d*locc on Oct 15, 2010 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Poor cain he wishes he would see round2 i think its crap he got the title shot b4 a more deserving and better fighter mr.dos santos.Im not sure cain can beat roy
by phatmacjuggalo10 on Oct 14, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Too bad neither Velasquez nor Dos Santos will ever get past Lesnar.
I’d love to see either guy beat Brock, but I just don’t see it happening. I think the UFC should have promoted Velasquez vs. Dos Santos from the beginning.
by TheFriendlySponge on Oct 14, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
right cause the hw division is packed with contenders
Need all the matchups for Brock that are somewhat deserved that they can get. Its scarce as is.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 8:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe Brock should move to Srikeforce then?
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Oct 15, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
neither org has a solid hw class that could provide plenty of interesting fresh match ups
Too bad though.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cain beat Nog one fight removed from being the Interim Champ how is he not deserving of the shot?
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by doonerthesooner on Oct 15, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously Brock..
doesn’t have much of a chin. Cains hand speed will give Brock trouble and his gas tank will keep him at the advantage thru the whole fight. Cain by UD.
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R u just simply retarted??
Did u not see his last fight? I’m guessing no? Because Carwin carries bricks in his hands and could not stop the Brockness. Or maybe ur just trying to b funny in that case well u r hilarious. But I’m guessing u r just plain ol retarted yeah I’m talkin 2 u xxbaxx816 just plain ol retarted
Das Butcher
by Das Butcher on Oct 15, 2010 1:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brock took ZERO clean shots in the standup
Took some nasty hits on the ground, but never ate that scary right hand that ended everyone else.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
wtf?
catching a punch while you’re on the ground is a lot worse than one standing up… not only do you worry about the force of the punch coming at you, but also the force of smashing the back of your head against the mat.
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
calling someone "retarted" a record 3x in one post...
And having misspelled it all 3x is embarrassing. Your key word to insulting him was a total FAIL. 3x over. Follow along:
R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D
You’re welcome.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 8:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hictoniX
A punch on the mat often isn’t worse than one on the feet. On the feet you get all the torque etc behind it. Most of your power from a proper punch is derived from your ass muscles (gluts) and lower back. Its transferred all the way through and makes it all the more powerful. Often times strikes on the ground are strictly arm punches. So they come mostly from your arm and a little from your back. But the stand up thud will hurt more in most occasions.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
your first reply was a mistake i'm assuming...
and there is one thing that amplifies a punch more that goes down…
gravity
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
You can’t put you’re hips and legs into a punch on the ground either. Gravity? That’s some stupid shit right there. Does gravity sound like it helps you’re punching power more than putting you’re legs and hips into it? Hell to the no
GO BIG, OR GO HOME!!!
by LOKIE on Oct 15, 2010 9:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the force and weight behind a punch headed toward the ground with your entire body behind it
is more effectective than you throwing a punch standing up. and you go back and look at those punches again and tell me if you don’t think he was putting his body into it
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
Maybe from mount but when has brock mounted anyone and thrown punches strait down? Even then a well thrown punch standing had more pop
GO BIG, OR GO HOME!!!
by LOKIE on Oct 15, 2010 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Then no way they had more power than if carwin had landed cleanly while standing
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by LOKIE on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not it either
if you don’t think there was mad power in those punches when carwin was coming down on brock, then i dont know what to say.
is it easier to break a board that’s right out in front of you or one that’s below you?
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
That elbow that Carwin landed flush on Brock's chin is potentially the hardest thing anyone could ever land anywhere, except maybe a knee to a grounded opponent:
It's BROCKtober Bitches!
I can break a board with a six inch punch man are you kidding me. I didn’t say that they didn’t have power but carwin landing a clean punch standing has more power than the shot he hit brock with on the ground. A board? Come on
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by LOKIE on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You are not looking at all the factors.
It’s not just that the punch to the grounded opponent is stronger, which I still think it might be, but rather the resistance to the punch that is the big difference.
Standing the head get’s pushed and the movement that the body does backwards absorbs a lot of the power.
When you get hit while your head is on the ground, the head has no where to go except the ground, and ALL the power from the punch is absorbed right into the head.
THUS, downward punches to a grounded opponents are much more devastating.
It's BROCKtober Bitches!
I think your head moving might cause more damage.
I mean that shit literally rattles your brain.
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by doonerthesooner on Oct 15, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
my first reply was for Das Butcher... you know... the one who spelled the word incorrectly 3x
Gravity doesn’t pull a fist down lol. Sorry.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do any of you guys get punched on a regular basis?
Cause I’m going with whoever is speaking from experience.
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by doonerthesooner on Oct 15, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I do.
and i can tell you they both suck. but when your head is flat on the mat, if the guy is standing and drops a bomb on you its worse than taking one when you are both standing. if you have him in full guard and he’s on his knees in your guard, the punches on the ground are better than an punch on the feet. If hes mounted or postured up really good in your guard, the strikes on the ground can be a bitch as well, but not as bad as a clean connection while both standing.
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by Andrew Keller on Oct 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
^by better i mean they hurt less in line one.
The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary.
by Andrew Keller on Oct 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I get punched two to three times a week
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by LOKIE on Oct 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i train but i try my best not to get punched, i dont too much like being hit
but i know that i’d rather catch one of these
than one of these:
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
He standing when he delivers that punch. Following someone with a big punch to the ground is different than what the brock vs carwin fight
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by LOKIE on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0E_NCjD1Os
go to about 50 secs on that video and watch it, carwin was up on his feet and coming down on those shots
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
Dont use GSP for punching power references
by XxPRIDEFIGHTERxX on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
i was using a straight punch as a reference....
and before that KO, Machida never had oneat all
Next victim: Cain Velasquez
well find a better staraight punch lol
by XxPRIDEFIGHTERxX on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Machida KO Rich with a head kick?
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by doonerthesooner on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Guess what D W
I don’t really care if the word is spelled wroong. This is a mma site not english class. So u can keep correcting me whne I spell words wrong and I ll keep talkin mma and the such. By the way this wasn’t intended as an insult nor was the post to xxBawhatever it was a mocking gesture at the brock has no chin part of his post. If he has no chin then carwin should have kod him in that fight
Das Butcher
by Das Butcher on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
right, and if you had only misspelled the word once
Not 3×. And if it weren’t an attempt to call a guy down, and call him a name than I would have let er slide. But when you’re calling someone a name and failing repeatedly at it, it only makes you look “retarted”.
So “guess what”? I will keep correcting you on stupid mistakes like that.
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by daniel worby on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe I am a bit retarded
But thanks worby for pointing out my stupidity and deficiencies in my grammar and my ability to try and call someone down. I will try and do better the next time. Its also nice to know that I now have my own personal english teacher here on mania to help me out. Thanks its very much appreciated
Das Butcher
by Das Butcher on Oct 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You really posted just to call the guy out on spelling?
You post once or twice a week (average) and this is what you waste it on?
jay.
Could not stop?
Carwin stopped him the whole first round and beat him down.
He beat up a fresh Brock Lesnar, and Lesnar subbed a gassed Shane Carwin.
Brock doesn’t like to be hit and does not defend well once he catches a shot to the head.
It’s going to be his downfall.
Carwin>Lesnar in a rematch.
I want Brock to win so badly....
I’m a huge Cain fan, love his work ethic and his cardio and how he is constantly improving. But Brock is my boy. Something about him, I just can’t pinpoint it, but I always, always root for him in his fights, even when he was a heel.
Can't w8 to see the brockness monster try & gas Cain out by eating punches 2 te face.
Brocks guna take a beating just like lashley did his last fight!
Let’s see.
Pea-sized brain: Check.
Out of proportion torso with bony ridges atop an elongated cranium: Check.
Inability to adapt to areas where smarter, more advanced mammals thrive (Canada): Check.
Arms are mostly useless appendages, except for holding down prey: Check.
Facing imminent and absolute extinction (October 23rd): Check.
Yeah, the Brockosaurus is a dangerous beast, to be sure. I’ll let my T-Mex do the back-riding. I call him Cain.
by d*locc on Oct 15, 2010 12:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
hmmmm I don`t think so d*locc but you can dream it!
Brock will prove that a Lesnar strike does much more damage than a Kongo strike.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Interesting Brocks pick is alot like mines....
Except I got cain via TKO round 2….
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Well how are you going to feel when you find out Brock is smarter than you?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
So Puck Head R U with me?
My mom claims I’m the bastard child of her and Brock. She buys every ppv that he’s been on so I’m rootin for my pops what do u say?
Das Butcher
by Das Butcher on Oct 15, 2010 1:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Cain is good enough to drag this out for two or three rounds,
But Brock is gonna be to much for Cain to handle. When I watch Cain train I go “wow, he is really good.” when I watch Brock train I go “GOD DAMN!!!” I feel sorry for Cain.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 15, 2010 3:17 AM EDT reply actions
I don't really watch the primetimes but it seems all Brock does is lift weights.
His strength is incredible, but I don’t think he’s gonna be able to maul Cain. I’m sticking with Cain by Tko in the 4th
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by doonerthesooner on Oct 15, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Take Downs.
How can Cain stop Brock’s take downs? He can’t! Brock will put him to sleep. Yes, if it were a stand up fight, Cain could win.
Yes, if it were a stand up fight, Cain could win.
Not even then would Cain win. Even if it was a K1 fight. Brock is too big and powerful. Dos Santos on the other hand miht give Brock a run for his money in a K1 contest. Regardless, they will both be quickly finished in their MMA fights.
It's BROCKtober Bitches!
Brock woudn't win a K-1 fight with Cain. And Dos Santos would put a hurtin on Brock in K-1. Brocktober is clouding your rationality
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Oct 15, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock would destroy Cain in K1, I stand by that. JDS would be much more interesting.
Cain doesn’t have power, and Brock would just cover up and land bombs once in a while. Even Kongo would kill Cain in K1.
It's BROCKtober Bitches!
JDS would be the best K1 striker followed by Kongo who Cain wouldn't want to be standing with either
Carwin would probably do the best out of the three wrestlers as even with big gloves his power would still be effective.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I gotta agree with Lesnars pick
I think he’s gonna stand a little bit with cain in the first round, make cain feel like he’s got a chance to win and in the second round the bullrush comes and Lesnar caves cain’s head in.
by Lester The Pimp on Oct 15, 2010 6:54 AM EDT reply actions
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