UFC 125: Shane Carwin vs Roy Nelson confirmed for Jan. 1 in Las Vegas
by Jesse Holland on Oct 14, 2010 11:49 AM EDT
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So you wanna be a contender?
Super-sized heavyweight hopefuls Shane Carwin and Roy Nelson have been confirmed for a 265-pound throwdown at the upcoming UFC 125 event, currently scheduled for Jan. 1 from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.
"The Engineer" confirmed the match-up earlier today via his official Twitter account.
Carwin held the division's Interim title when reigning champion Brock Lesnar had his intestines up in a bunch. Upon his return, the former WWE-star survived a first round blitzkrieg to come back and submit the Greg Jackson-disciple via arm-triangle choke at UFC 116 back in July.
It was Carwin's first loss in 12 appearances, and one that has made the power-punching collegiate wrestling champion hungrier than ever.
Speaking of hungry, Nelson was also on the fast-track to bigger and better opportunities within the division -- until he ran headfirst into a Brazilian roadblock named Junior dos Santos at UFC 117 last August.
"Cigano" took home the unanimous decision win and the right to challenge the winner of Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez at UFC 121 on Oct. 23.
The loss snapped "Big Country's" undefeated streak since graduating from the tenth season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF), but you can bet your bottom dollar a win over Carwin would carry him right back to the top of the contender's list.
Can Nelson take a punch? Can Carwin last more than one round? Time will tell.
UFC 125, recently announced via the website's "Ultimate Insider," is expected to be headlined by lightweight champion Frankie Edgar, as he defends his title in a rematch against undefeated Gray Maynard.
Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann and Thiago Silva vs. Brandon Vera are also expected to be announced for the Jan. 1 pay-per-view in the coming weeks.
Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more updates to this still-developing fight card.
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It's time to "burger up"
ROOP! There it is!
Holy Schnickies that was AWESOME!
by Bigger Zino on Oct 14, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I got Roy here too....
Carwin has big power but his boxing isn’t that great and cardio definitely sucks. He also gets rocked pretty easy though he recovers/recoops fast (very strange to see). This fight will be a standup bout.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 14, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stand up
I don’t see it. Roy drops levels and shoots for a single leg and PRAYS he falls into sidemount.
I would love Roy to win this bad boy – but Carwin is just THAT guy. He tags you and it’s instant survival mode. I don’t think Roy can repeat what Lesnar did.
ROOP! There it is!
Holy Schnickies that was AWESOME!
by Bigger Zino on Oct 14, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
All I got to say to Roy is...
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
YEP
which sucks cause i really like Roy.
Dana has it out for him lol
I want BC/Mir for fucks sake
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 14, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Roy, but see no chance for him in this!
IMO, the only 2 fighters that can beat Carwin are Brock and Cain. However, I see Carwin winning the rematch with the Brock.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
agreed there buddy!
but id most probably take carwin over cain!
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 14, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So so very wrong fellas....
Cain is gonna rule HW undefeated for a long time. The only guy who’ll give him trouble is JDS. It’s gonna be the Fedor-Cro Cop match of this era.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 14, 2010 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sucka please! They’re all fighting for the No. 1 contender spot because Brock isn’t giving up that title until he decides to hang it up.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
I think Brock, Cain and Carwin all share some wins and losses between each other.
IMO JDS isn’t up there with them. He would get taken down all day by Cain and Brock. A fight with Carwin I see him getting TKO/KO, if the stand up isn’t going well, then he takes him down too.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
One punch from Gonzaga
nearly stopped Carwin. JDS is a better striker than Gonzaga, he is more accurate has more variety and probably hits harder. Carwin may have a harder single punch, but JDS has more than enough power to knockout Carwin, and he has the speed to go with it, and with Carwins non existent gas tank, I would go with JDS. If Brock and Cain could take JDS down without taking a shot or knee to the face, they could possibly get the wins, but Brocks last win showed that he has weakneses, which i could see JDS repeating without running out of gas, I think Cain with his stand up would be a little more difficult to beat.
EXACTLY, PH!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
agreed.
carwin is going to be one pissed mofo after the steroid story’s. carwin with brutal ko in first 3 minutes.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 14, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And if he doesn't win in the first 3 minutes
he’s f’ucked, and going by the way Roy took all of JDS’s punches for three rounds, he may not be able to finish him in the first, but Roy is more than capable of finishing Carwin in the first getting a TKO, if he lands one on Carwins chin. Should be a good one
i'll give nelson one thing. he comes to fight and does not duck anyone like someone we found out today. bader.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 15, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be really, really impressive
But highly unlikely IMO. Dana has it in for BC. Something about that belly just rubs him the wrong way. This will give us a pretty good idea as to how JDS and Carwin compare powerwise.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
If Carwin TKOs him
It’ll fast track him to another title shot. We all JDS and Carwin jave power. JDS boxing is powerful and technically sound. He really picks em apart. Carwin just has the raw size and one shot KO power. I think he’ll stop Roy via TKO in the 1st or 2nd
Maybe Roy should start thinking of loosing the belly and going 205. If he could, I’d love to see it
JDS is hits harder than Carwin
and has better cardio and still couldn’t finish Roy. Carwin was exposed in the fight against Brock, much like Sokoudjou was: weather the initial storm, he’ll gas and be easy to beat after the first.
Carwin will try to KO/TKO Nelson but he’ll gas trying to do it.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
I guess we will see
I don’t buy that JDS hits harder than Carwin. More technically sound, for sure, but more powerful, no way.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I just don't buy it
Carwin is not going to repeat his mistakes in the Brock fight. I don’t think what happened there can be properly described by just saying his cardio sucks.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
the only mistake carwin made was punching brock too many times
brock was gonna absorb any ass kicking carwin had for him. not so much carwins mistake as it was brock’s heart
"The harder you work in practice, the later it will benefit you in the octagon"
Not only the punches but stuffing Brocks takedowns takes a lot of the tank as well
No way Nelsons TD attempts will take as near the energy it took to fend off Brock
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think Carwin takes this one.
The only way I see Roy winning is if he turns his lights off.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 14, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No way in hell that JDS has more power than Carwin!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Carwin has no choice on whether he gasses or not.
If he comes in with the same muscles….whether he likes it or not he’ll burn himself out sooner than later. It just depends on how hard the other guy makes him work early in the round.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 14, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good point, okay so Roy can win by staying alive in the first.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 14, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Roy's big
But I don’t see him having the arms to hide behind if Carwin gets him in the same position as Brock. And plus Carwin will probably choose his shots this time. I like Roy but I don’t see what he has that can beat Carwin. Unless Carwin gases he’s screwed
Roy doesn`t have the power to grapple with Carwin and be able to wear him down like Brocks grappling did
It wasn`t only the punching that fatigued Carwin it takes a lot of energy to fend off Brock and the combo of the too fatigued Carwin early. In aa three round fight I would take Carwin any round against Roy the only guys I see being able to fatigue Shane in the grapple is Brock and Cain in the UFC right now. And Roy doesn`t have the chin of Brock either.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Roy has less power than Carwin, but wins in the grappling department.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I agree Deuce
Look how gassed Brock was when fighting Couture, Brock admitted that nerves were a big factor. Nerves + the scramble to finish Brock does not mean he has a bad gas tank, it means his fricken human!
by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 14, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC 125
Muscle vs Mush
Stud vs Stuffed
The Engineer vs The Can of Beer
Sorry I know I am getting to much joy out of this.
haha, If we won’t get Roy and Lesnar we can still make the same jokes in this instance.
I actually am interested in this matchup but I think Carwin will KO Roy as much as I do like Roy.
by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 14, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Big country will smash this fool
Honestly, if big country get this fight to the ground it’s a rap.. Brock sub’d carwin.. Bg will put this kid in a trick bag
Carwin won’t be able to stop this fat kid – come 2nd he’ll be gassed, that’s when my boy big country eats this ish up
by danago on Oct 14, 2010 11:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
oh great
Now I know Carwin will win.
sarcasm goes here
Thanks ^ Danago.
ROOP! There it is!
Holy Schnickies that was AWESOME!
by Bigger Zino on Oct 14, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree....
Carwin has been exposed. If BC can get past the first round, the fight is his.
JDS and then Carwin?
Big Country is in the deep end now, he’s been put in tougher than any TUF winner to date. He’s got a great chin, but I don’t think it will stand up to a clean shot from Carwin.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
Good point. I can’t think of one TUF winner who had a tougher road than BC. Why is it that every other TUF winner is coddled? BC only gets top 10 guys. I am not bitching, but man.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I think Roy has a harder time than any other TUF winner because he has the most credentials coming into it. He held the IFL Heavyweight championship at one point, I think that’s more than most entrants can claim.
True, he was pretty well known.
But when he got the IFL belt it was only because Ben Rothwell (who Roy lost to) wouldn’t re-sign a contract. So the shot was given to Roy instead. If the UFC wanted to give him an easier fight they could have set up Rothwell vs Nelson to let Roy avenge his IFL loss, or anyone really besides Carwin. Not complaining really, just surprised. Props to Big Country for stepping up, the guy is a real fighter.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
Gonzaga rocked Carwin.
If Roy lands first I think Carwin is going to be the one in trouble. Roy showed how much punishment he can take, I doubt Carwin could take half of that.
If Nelson loses this, a fight with Mir might be in his future. JDS vs. either of them ain’t happening considering he’s got the next shot after Brock/Cain.
im not sayin that dana would make the fights i would just like to see roy fight mir … its hard for me to take him seriously after the lost to the pitubll in the elite xc days ….. does anyone else still have bad taste in their mouth from ufc 119 .. how in the hell was that supopose to be a ppv worthy card … mir vs cro cop… i think im gonna be sick.
Hope Carwin gets the W so they schedule a rematch
Roy has better BJJ and stamina, and a hellova chin, the longer fight favors him.
Carwin has better wrestling and more power.
Roy is the sentimental fav for me, but I want to see Carwin knockout Lesnar.
I expected this match-up...
Both of them are coming off losses to the current champ and the next contender, makes sense to match them up as it keeps the winner pretty close in contention IMO. Especially for Carwin, this makes more sense than rematching Mir, or fighting Cro Cop or Barry. Kind of funny looking at them both and realizing Nelson has exhibited better cardio.
Cardio won't mean shit for Roy
Roy will not be able to make Carwin work nearly as much as Brock did in his take down attempts. Carwin is a good MMA striker as you seen against JDS but in this match you will see why Carwin is one of the most effective strikers in MMA today. BC is getting KTFO.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Happy to see some have faith that BC can pull this off but i can't say im as confident. Carwin may really hurt him here, roy sounded brain damaged on espn after the jds fight and carwin may scramble those eggs permenantly.
roy has a payer that he survives to the 3rd and finds a gassed carwin, but i don’t see that prayer being answered… Im legitimately concerned for roys health here.
It does not get any better then the Mayhem and a bunch of sexy Japanese girls.--- The Voice
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 14, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
I would feel for anyone that had to face Carwin right now
I still believe he is the 2nd best HW and will prove it his next two fights. Hopefully him and Cain get to go at it after Cain loses to Brock.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
JDS > Brock or Cain. Whoever wins
Next up Brock vs JDS and Carwin vs Cain. Just my opinion
Anyway you slice it… 2011 is going to be cool.
ROOP! There it is!
Holy Schnickies that was AWESOME!
by Bigger Zino on Oct 14, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
im hoping he gets cain also, that will be fun.
It does not get any better then the Mayhem and a bunch of sexy Japanese girls.--- The Voice
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 14, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Shane been working on his cardio.
Let’s see.
Pea-sized brain: Check.
Out of proportion torso with bony ridges atop an elongated cranium: Check.
Inability to adapt to areas where smarter, more advanced mammals thrive (Canada): Check.
Arms are mostly useless appendages, except for holding down prey: Check.
Facing imminent and absolute extinction (October 23rd): Check.
Yeah, the Brockosaurus is a dangerous beast, to be sure. I’ll let my T-Mex do the back-riding. I call him Cain.
by d*locc on Oct 14, 2010 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It won't matter this fight either way
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
why does it feel like
they had to coax Roy into taking this fight? it’s like he’s Zuffa’s fall guy.
I thought he was supposed to be out for a while due to injuries?
I guess this means...
I guess this means Brock v. Mir 3 when Brock gets destroyed by Cain. Yawn.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
If Brock loses
You know damn well that will be his first fight back. They can sell the shit out of that, but I am with you.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
but then again
I would enjoy watching Mir try to steal some more strawberries. While I don’t want to pay for it, it would be entertaining in a WWE kinda way.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Hey...
Where’d you get the strawberries thing from?
Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
!*GASP*!
I came up with that in a caption contest at MMAmafia.net (now MMA-hive.com). Damnit thats my quote.
Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
no shit?
This thing was floated around here in a couple threads not too long ago.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
The only thing Roy will be eating is the canvas, when he is face down sleeping.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
Arm Triangle possibly the most underrated submission in MMA as proven by Brock Lesnar
JDS smashed him with some huge shots
roy is tough as fuck
"The harder you work in practice, the later it will benefit you in the octagon"
does the UFC hate Roy Nelson?
What a terrible match up for now. They are feeding Roy to the lions way too soon. Give this a guy a chance to get some wins under his belt before he gets 3 losses in a row. Bad Joe Silva, bad.
by KO Shrimp on Oct 14, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Roy is a good fighter but I don't think anybody besides JDS, Cain & Brock would be a challenging fight for Carwin KO Shrimp
And if Roy does survive the first G Squat Carwin will still finish him in the 2nd but I doubt he last the 1st
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
this matchup has dana written all over it
He’s been pissed at roy since he embarrassed the TUF cash cow in the 2nd(or 3rd) episode of the season
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Oct 14, 2010 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i dont know i think they like him alot actually … they were gonna give him a title shot if he beat jds… and his previous 2 wins were struve and schaub….. shit jds beat werdum,struve,cro crop,yvel,gonzaga and had to beat fat country to finally get a shot
Who would be better than Roy that can fight in Jan? JDS has the next title shot and of coarse Brock and Cain are fighting right now
So once again who would be better? Roy is a good fighter and happens to be the best choice right now if Dana wanted to embarrass anyone he wouldn’t of fired Duffe and had Carwin & Duffee go at it.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Carwin Only Wins if He Can Finish Roy in the First.
We’ve seen what happens when he goes beyond the frist round. He dies. Roy has a good cardio and will own rounds two and three, if those rounds happen.
Looking at that pic, Shane was ripped in his roid days. Sure doesn’t look like that anymore.
Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
lactic acid vs acid reflux
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Oct 14, 2010 1:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah
That’s going to be in the running for “Quote of the Week” for sure
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Oct 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Lame matchup......
I want to see Carwin KO Nog brutally and I want to see Big Country win his next fight.
Neither will happen :(
by Lester The Pimp on Oct 14, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Dont you know Carwin is a BEAST?
Dana wants Roys head on a platter. I can’t see Roy winning this whatsoever. Unless he can weather the storm and catch Shane with a submission. But this is highly unlikely. I give Carwin the easy win
by Gordie_123 on Oct 14, 2010 3:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
BIG PROPS TO ROY
with him lately taking all these fights no one has balls to take. Respect on that one but sadly hes outa his mind thinking he could beat JDS and now Carwin.
I agree
If anything Big Country should be fighting Mir, but because it wouldn’t be fair for Dos Santos to fight Carwin, BC get’s screwed over and has to take this beat down.
This would set up a Carwin/ (Cain/Brock loser) matchup imo. Where of course JDS would get a title shot.
"in this day and age of "let's erect a statue"-isn't it time Jerry Reinsdorf is honored" - The Swirsk
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 14, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this fight and the more I think about it the more I like Roys chances.
I think saying Carwin hits’ harder than JDS is negligible. As long as Roy doesn’t take one on the chin he’ll be ok.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 14, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If Nelson wins he should get a title shot
Even though he’s coming off a loss, he did go the distance. And the way I see it, he’s fighting out of his weight class. He’s 205 lbs of muscle with 50 lbs of gut fighting 255 lbs of muscle. That’s though.
Did you see Yves is fighting Guillard?
And I don’t know about a title shot but the loss to JDS doesn’t hurt him in my opinion.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 14, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Carwin will finish big country in the first
That is the difference between a true top contender and a pretender like jds.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 14, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
A true top contender
doesn’t gas after the first round.
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