The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 12: Episode 5 recap and discussion
The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) Season 12, featuring welterweight coaches (and division rivals) Josh Koscheck and Georges St. Pierre, is back for Episode 5 and wow -- right into the slow piano solo.
Ah, it's Coach Koscheck reflecting on his path from TUF rookie to number one contender. With Team GSP out to an early 3-0 lead, "Kos" brings in the big guns, starting with friend and AKA teammate Jon Fitch, who's sporting his patented isosceles hairdo.
Nam Phan appreciated having his butt kicked by the Fitchster and Coach K rattles off the platitudes.
Back at the house, a stir crazy Alex Caceres gets his prank on and swaps fabric softener for bleach. Unfortunately Michael Johnson is doing a load and blows a gasket at the thought of his TapouT shorts being washed out.
Team GSP hits the gym and "Rush" answers the Fitch cameo with one of his own, bringing in a Muay Thai trainer with a name that I can't pronounce or spell despite rewinding the segment about 7-8 times. St. Pierre warns the recruits not to fuck with him or they run the risk of getting KTFO.
Jean Charles Skarbowsky! I should have waited for the graphic. He walks in with his shirt off, kind of like a French Freddie Mercury. Rumor has it he either drinks or goes up in smoke before throwing hands so Skarbowsky starts dumping the contestants on their asses in his drunken stupor.
Time for the fight picks and Team GSP (still) has control. They select Spencer Paige to fight Nam Phan. Koscheck seems optimistic about this fight but everyone wants to know why Phan put his head down and moped around after the announcement.
He further confuses them by using his free time to run and continue training. Maybe it would make more sense for this show if he was getting drunk and jizzing in someone's sushi.
Go figure.
Paige hits the gym to prepare for his fight. He believes he's quicker and better on his feet and will be chin hunting when they lock up later in the show. He also admits to feeling the pressure now because nobody wants to be the fighter to break the Team GSP undefeated streak.
Coach Koscheck gets into a verbal sparring match with Cody McKenzie. Both fail to impress. In the training ring, Phan looks pretty good with the hands and then POW -- in walks "The Iceman." Unfortunately it's post-Franklin so the piano rears its ugly head and it's the TUF contestants who seem to be doing the encouragement instead of the other way around.
Liddell tells them to train hard and have fun because fighting sure beats working a regular job.
During the weigh ins, Coach Koscheck, in the worst attempt at a French accent in the history of Canada-bashing, tells St. Pierre that if he slips him the tongue, Kos will quit MMA for good. GSP maintains his composure and the segment goes belly-up.
Incidentally, both fighters make weight without incident.
Assistant Coach "Frenchie" stumbles about the locker room and Koscheck gives him a few verbal jabs. This is why the ROFL acronym was invented. No, really.
ARIANNY SIGHTING. Episode saved.
Elimination fight #4: Spencer Paige (7-2) vs. Nam Phan (16-7)
Round 1: Punches and kicks open the bout with Paige landing cleaner but Phan puts him on his butt with a big punch. He's right back up and they continue whaling on each other. St. Pierre going overboard with they "Ehhhhhhh" every time Paige connects. Phan eating a lot of shots but continues to push forward. Lots of long distance striking with Paige backpedaling. Phan catches a kick and drops him. He pounces and tries to pound him out and Paige is throwing enough up-kicks to stay alive. Phan falls into side control and takes a coffee break. He catches his breath and locks up a painful looking Kimura but Paige guts it out until the bell.
Round 2: Paige comes out on a mission with no visible damage from the arm lock. Unfortunately he gets hit hard to the body and looks wobbly. Phan stalking now and Paige tries to back him up with a flurry. Paige in defensive mode now trying to protect his side. Paige slips and tries to tie Phan up as he rushes in and they briefly lock up against the cage. A brief struggle ensues and they get back to their feet. Phan controlling the pace but Paige hanging tough. Phan begins to pull away and lands consistent shots over and over, prompting a "FUCK" from Paige. Phan just stays busy and continues to make contact until the bell.
Nam Phan defeats Spencer Paige by unanimous decision
Team Koscheck goes batshit over the win and St. Pierre calls Kos a sore winner. Team Koscheck then pounds on the locker room walls to rub it in.
Stay tuned next week for a special two-fight episode, Team Koscheck becomes Team Cocky and GSP gets opened up in training. Ruh-roh!
See you in seven!
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4-0 GSP
The the robot is on a roll.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I haven't been watching this season...
I suspect it will go something like this…
-Dana reminds everybody that the next 5 minutes in their life are the most important 5 minutes they will ever experience. However many of the past guys have gone on to good things outside of MMA and they aren’t being underpaid, aren’t being punched in the face, and don’t have to prep for work more than most other jobs…only to be cut after 3 months.
-One coach has some beef that is totally illogical with the other coach and show’s producers try to exploit the false rivalry
-Some fighter is offended by his low draft spot (yet goes on to show that it was really, really justified)
-Two guys on opposite teams become friends and a third fighter thinks they are each betraying their teams…fake drama ensues.
-A fighter or coach perceives that he has been disrespected and breaks…wait for it…a door.
-One fighter pranks someone but it goes wrong and he really does offend someone (Bruce Leroy seems to be this guy from this recap…that can’t be his real name can it?).
-A fighter has overcome some tragedy in his past and stares at a picture of his wife, mother, friend or child…and dedicates the fight to his wife, mother, friend or child…but loses.
-One fighter does something so completely gay that it warrants several interviewed comments from other fighters but is left as just “goofing around”
-Dana White reminds people that he only wants guys that are willing to fight at the drop of a hat, this is used to bate some injured, desperate guy to volunteer to fight the #1 overall pick on the other team and he loses bad… so very bad. Dana says the loser was a tough guy and that’s what the UFC wants… however, you never see him after the finale.
-The prankster (see above) gets drunk and either gets into a fight, almost gets into a fight, or causes someone to hope they can fight him in the finale
-Everybody except the semi-finalists trash the living shit out of the house which once again portrays MMA fighters as barbarians
-The two favored fighters from the beginning end up in the finale (once again showing the whole show was a complete waste of time)
-If Tito is involved, he claims he is great, is the one who is going to teach the “kids” the real ins and outs of MMA, and eventually fails
-One of the better characters of the show gets a real UFC fight even though he showed poorly and then loses bad to a real prospect (based on the recap above I an guessing “Bruce Leroy” , that can’t be his real name can it, will be this guy)
I REALLY HAVEN"T SEEN A SINGLE EPISODE THIS SEASON…am I wrong?
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
If Fedor would be coaching this season,
you would put up with the format and watch it. I’ve always watched it. More so now that GSP is coaching. John Danaher is the guy I would want in my corner. He steals the show.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I know...
I know it seems like I am a bigger Fedor fan than I really am because I debate guys like Puck Head who think that a single loss means that a fighter is done as well as other morons who thinks Fedor only fights cans (name me someone who has fought better guys).
BUT, the reality is that GSP is actually one of my favorite fighters. I like ALL of his fights, I like that he develops, has great game plans, executes those game plans, is an intelligent interviewee, is a good face of the sport, is humble as fuck, and fights better than he talks. Yet I am still compelled to skip yet another season of this garbage. Same shit different guys. Just fight already.
Now to answer the question on who I think the best wrestler/grappler Fedor has faced is CC in my mind.
by Puck Head on Sep 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT
Another gem from Puck Head
by StrikerDave on Oct 13, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i watched tonights episode,
but i havn’t watched this season thus far..
i just dont like the whole reality bullshit.. i do enjoy the fact that there is a fight at the end of every episode though..
were the first couple fights any good? should i go back and watch the first 3 or so that i missed?
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the jibbidy jabber, i'll jab your jaw and not your funnybone, hun. skip the ovalteen id rather have my honeycombs, um
by ricky~dooby on Oct 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
i like this season
All the fights have been pretty good imo, a little bit of everything.
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Oct 14, 2010 2:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My favorite season in recent memory
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Oct 14, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
"Intelligent interviewee" ??? LMAO Sure buddy
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
They’re really fishing for controversy between GSP and Kos, but GSP isn’t taking the bait. I will say that the fights this season have been a pleasant surprise…..there have been some pretty good scraps.
"Oh hell son, i was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth....hell, you can even be fifth" - Reese Bobby
by kg12 on Oct 13, 2010 9:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's how most series go, though I haven't watched either so I don't know
And Bruce Leroy is his nickname, supposedly he wants to be the next Bruce Lee despite not being anything like him at all (unless Bruce Lee was a cocky punk who drank a lot and boasted about his wins). His real name is Alex Caceres, or something like that.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
that was the best scene in TUF history!
When georges brought in a drunk, stoned frech guy who could kick everyones ass
"The harder you work in practice, the later it will benefit you in the octagon"
by Newfie3 on Oct 13, 2010 10:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Skarbowsky was one of the sickest MT fighters in the world. Retired in 06 but yea hella fun to watch.
If you want kickboxing you go to Holland……if you want Muay Thai you go to either Thailand or France. George always keeps it real with how serious he is about training with the best in every single discipline.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 13, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the most interesting Coachings season on TUF
Along with some decent fighters, this is the stuff that makes TUF worth watching IMO. . I thought Danaher odd/amazing coach, but here comes a drunken Muay Thai Instructor best in the world.. Funkinspecatular!
GSP trains with the best in the world. GSP is truely a fighting Artist all the way down to his philosphy
I think it's important to go to Thailand, but you need a Ocidental coach
So you can addapt their MT to the cage. Muay Thai fights in Thailand are somewhat different from the MT bouts we have. Although competitive, there are rounds purely performatic, with the fighters wearing makeup and shit. That’s where the western coach comes in handy… you get to have the technique, philosophy and training aspects from traditional MT and a guy who’ll teach you how to stay agressive and how to work the cage effectively, which is very different from the ring.
"A lot of times, you beat a person who beat a person who can beat you. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense." – Joe Rogan
thats cool and all
But that drunk guy was fucking amazing. I rewound and watched that entire scene 3×. I love that guy. I hope he comes back in a future episode. I was hoping Kos was gonna say something to set him off when he was chirping. That part of the episode was bloody amazing. Tossed those kids like infants! Haha yes!
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by daniel worby on Oct 14, 2010 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
check him out on youtube Worb....
he’s had some legendary and brutal wars…… a true Muay Thai legend.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 14, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fitch looks like Ace Ventura, but I’m still going to call him Unanimous Fitch.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
by P-Dub on Oct 13, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
nam phan
Guess all that runnin he does in the morning pays off. a little work and MAYBE he gets somewhere
Kos is supposed to be a heal, but he just comes off like a lame dick.
His trash talk sucks and his actions just show a lack of class instead of any malice.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 14, 2010 2:29 AM EDT reply actions
its true though, theres no need for gsp to reply ever
Josh’s “disses” and “trash talk” are amongst the most pathetic I have ever seen. Literally. Gsp isn’t saying anything cause he’s not like that, but also because I feel he’s actually winning the trash talk department by saying sweet shit all. Kos burries himself…. In Gsp’s asscheeks…. And motorboats….?
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by daniel worby on Oct 14, 2010 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is one of the best seasons IMO
Fights are decent and more importantly I just watched what I thought was the best camp in the world bring in a drunken Jean Charles Skarbowsky! … I don’t care about the BS antics or immature fighters, but watching this camp is amazing.
I know Paige broke his hand but this guy have any ground skills whatsoever?
I'm so impressed by the level of coaching this season
Anyone wanna see Danaher and Camarillo roll?
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
by Kenwoo on Oct 14, 2010 4:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is there a vid out there?
Camarillo always praises Danaher as the best BJJ instructor in the world bar none. I would love to see it……i imagine camarillo has a big edge on takedowns but not sure about everything else.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 14, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow im amazed at the patient GSP has i would have exploded
if someone rubs his FIRST win like that in my face. i dont even get it why they are doing that kos is 3 to 1 behind with all his losses were finishes, Nam Phan couldnt even put away spencer (who had a lot of heart) who’s shin and hand were messed up and had no ground game, hmm oh wait he is training with Jon Fitch now it all makes sense.
The trainingpartners are also awesome this season GSP is bringing in some specialist in Muay Thai and wrestling.
My Top MMA Talents
1. Jon ''Bones'' Jones
2. Anthony ''Showtime'' Pettis
3. Phil ''Mr. Wonderful'' Davis
4. Charles '' Do Bronx" Oliveira
5. Rory ''The Waterboy'' MacDonald
Would someone please pull that guy with the comb-over aside and tell him to cop the fuck on and just accept it, take it like a fucking man!!!!!
So what if I like Mirko Cro Cop, who the fuck are you??
i like the drunk french wrecking machine
When KOS was asking people to wrestle him i was hoping that guy would ask if he wanted to spar!
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 14, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The coach on GSP's team that is there every week? With the serious bald patch in denial?
So what if I like Mirko Cro Cop, who the fuck are you??
That is one terrible combover. He needs to go cue ball.... but then KOS would make more stupid comments.
Is it me or is Bruce Leroy always drinking in the house? He is a terrible drunk.
It's all about the entertainment.
NO the MT drunk guy first appearance
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Oct 14, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

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