Dana White: This is the week that determines Brock Lesnar's fate
by Jesse Holland on Jan 4, 2010 10:47 AM EST
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"This is the week. This is the week Brock Lesnar is going back to the doctor, getting fully checked out by one of the best doctors and hospitals in the world. If the doctors say things are going well and things are going in the right direction, then maybe we're a few months away from him coming back. If it's not, and not going in the right direction, he'll either be done and have to retire or he'll be out for a couple of years. So hopefully we get good news. And then after we get that announcement, then we'll be able to plan what we're going to do with the heavyweight division."
UFC President Dana White prepares to get the skinny on his ailing heavyweight champion as the doctor's decide just how well Brock Lesnar is doing following his surgery to repair damage inflicted by intestinal diverticulitis. The promotion recently announced that number one contender Shane Carwin will battle former champion Frank Mir at UFC 111 in Lesnar's absence and we may finally know by the end of this week if that bout will be contested for an interim title or the true title -- if the Minnesotan is forced to surrender the belt in anticipation of a long (or permanent) absence. In a perfect world, Lesnar would get fully cleared by his doctor and make his return in Boston on August 28 against the winner of Mir vs. Carwin or Nogueira vs. Velasquez. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Don’t hate him and no way I could hate a guy I’ve never net to extent that you wish illness on him like some people on here do…issues people!!!!
by irishlilpete on Jan 4, 2010 11:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe not wish illness but look at kingsam to see what I mean
by irishlilpete on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I for one wish him the best...
And hope to god he comes back in fighting form, love him or hate him he is entertaining!!
It just would not be the same without him and no matter who has the belt in the future, if Brock doesn’t return then the same question would brought up over and over again………..
“Would he beat Broc though???”
I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!
Brock can suck a fat one
Only reason I wanna see that steroid inbred get healthy and come back is so I can see someone kick his face in.
Think most agree that there is not a HW capable of that...
That is why with only 5 fights they are saying he needs to fight Fedor. That is a huge Accomplishment for 5 fights…
I definitely think there are a few HW's that are capable of that
"An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason."-C.S. Lewis
Come back soon, Brock!
Fans are fans. Being said that, It’s funny to see (not here) guys saying Lesnar is a legend whereas it’s hard to believe a fighter who scores 1-1 versus Mir has such high level status.
On the other hand, too many mma fanatics say they hate Brock. But why? His coming to UFC was an invention from Dana White. He was happy at WWE shows making his honest money.
So, I wish he comes back strong and fights at his prime to prove he is neither a man to be hated nor someone expected to be sick.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
No he wasn’t. He was making way more money in WWE than UFC. He hated it and walked away.
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
brocks contact in ufc.
…….. was dum dum dum £200k a yr,… he mentioned it in one of his vids about a yr ago… and he was also addicted to drink and painkillers and its part of reason he got his cock tatt, as he always felt like he a knife at his throat….
also brock was outta the WWE for a few yrs b4 signing with UFC
and if he comes back.. there is only 1 fight i wanna see him fight in the UFC and thats against Andy
Every night i would pray to God for a new bike, then i realized God does not work that way, so i stole one and asked him to forgive me
oops brocks contract in WWE i mean
Every night i would pray to God for a new bike, then i realized God does not work that way, so i stole one and asked him to forgive me
I want him to get better to see him Thrash Mir again!
I actually am not a fan of Brock but I am so tired of Mir running his mouth. Like the first 2 pummelings were not bad enough. The ref helped him win the first fight, he got owned the second and expect the same for the 3rd if it happens!
i bet...
Brock would still whoop slow ass Mir in the condition he’s in right now. Not a big fan of Brocks but i hope he gets well soon so he can shut Mir the f up.
by StringBeanRickJamesLookinFool on Jan 4, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
your gonna need more than one tissue for those tears
As a non Brock fan i wish him a speedy recovery hope he comes back full strength…. and then loses
dude.....i am
dude they work...
I just moved into our new house and had a party on NYE…somebody spilled red sine on our basement WHITE carpet!!! The wife freaked out but in everybody else’s drunkin state they started chanting for the Shamwow…nobody knew I actually had one so I went to get it. I put the thing down on the wine stain, stepped on it, lifted it up and it was gone….TOTALLY GONE!!! True story
best part of the story
everybody else’s drunkin state they started chanting for the Shamwow….sounds like something that would happen at my party, and im alot younger than you. this makes me happy
dude.....i am
Funny . . . but it doesn’t matter if he comes back later this year or in a few years. He will still destroy everything in front of him. Mir, Barney, JDS, McCully, it doesn’t matter.
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
whats a shamwow
is it like a shammy cloth?
Every night i would pray to God for a new bike, then i realized God does not work that way, so i stole one and asked him to forgive me
It’s a super-absorbent shammy sold through infomercials and not available in stores. Act now, and they’ll double your order.
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
yep
but you can’t buy a “Chop-it” in stores yet..that thing looks cool too….AND EASY TO WASH AND STORE!!!!!
not everything
Fedor
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
Kingsam =Mir?
I think kingsam must be frank Mir, either that or he’s some other douche.
by vinrex7 on Jan 4, 2010 11:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Get Brocks nuts out of ur mouth
I might be Frank Mir
or I might be your father
Who knows and who cares
brock has no skills
stand up sucks
ground game sucks
he is just a freak of nature due to all the roids
and it pretty much teaches everybody who needs skills when u can juice
That guy becomes normal human size and he couldn’t beat a fly
LOL if he was 240 he would be a better version of Cain
He’s one of the best HW wrestlers in MMA today and I ain’t talking WWE wrestling. Combine with his size and strength he’s rated #2 in the world by all most every MMA ranking board. It’s easy to talk shit and say he he sucks, but if you know MMA you would realize how foolish you sound.
KingSam spends too much time on his computer
Spend a month in the gym and off your couch and maybe you will understand. Just because he is big, and been an ahtlete his entire life, doesn’t mean he juices. Do you think all NFL players juice? He’s been tested his entire life, and never failed a steriod test yet. And to say that he has no skills, you’re an idiot. How did he beat Randy? What is “normal human size”?
So his Div I wrestling Championships, make him horrible on the ground?
You claim all this roid use, but he is obviously smaller the his WWE days(were usage was a definite posibilty). He has been huge since he was a kid. Have you ever seen pictures of him when he first started wrestling? He is Big! A guy that big who is a gym rat is going to be huge. The other main factor is they get tested in the states. He has fought at least 2 times a year since fighting in the UFC. The really good roids Nandrolone Decanoate/Undecanoate ( Deca-Deca Durabol- Turniabol) have detection times of 1 yr to 18 months. Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (other forms of Deca and Turniabol) have detection times of 11-12 months. So we know he is not doing those. Methiandienone(D-Bol) and Boldenone all forms of it are 5 to 6 months. So that is even pushing it to fight. Leaving Trembelnone or Testosterone variations which have detection times of 3 months, and that could even be close depending when you go in to camp and what your cycle is. So at best if he is doing anything going into fights it could be HGH, since testing for HGH is just begining to develope (like next year or 2 you will see the beginings of it).
To all the Brock haters;
Hate all you want, but NO ONE has accomplished what he has in the short amount of time he has with as little experience-no one. And it’s not just his size. He uses his excellent wrestling and ground control to put opponents in the postion he wants them to punish them. Yes he’s big and everybody complains about it as if it’s an unfair advantage. But was anyone complaining that it wasn’t fair that Mike Tyson hit harder than everyone else or that Sugar Ray Leonard was too fast for everyone? NO! That was their natural gift, size is his. Yes I said natural, he’s been huge since he was in college. He wrestled at 290 in college and was leaner and more muscular than he is now. Do the research, you’ll find that to be true.
Calu
I dont doubt Brocks skill, ability and potential.
I just dont think he has accomplished as much as people give him credit for. He split with Mir, took perrennial gatekeeper Herring to a dec. and KOd Randy. (imm excluding the min soo kim fight becasue who cares)
I think he was given a crack at the belt because of what he brings to the table, not because he earned the shot. He has definitely proven he deserves the belt but he needs a few more defenses against good competition before we can talk about accomplishments in the sport
dude.....i am
Accomplishments...
Ko’d Randy when he and Fedor when considered #1 and 2 in the world. Was bashing Mir in the first fight until he made a rookie error and had the ever-retarded Mazzagatti help Mir out, manhandled Herring who had 10x’s the fight experience and who almost ko’d Nog. All with 4 fights under his belt, pretty freakin impressive. Imagine how god he’ll be with 10-12 fights experience. No one will touch him. He really is a phenom when you consider his record of 5 fights compared to his 4 competitiors total fights, over 100 fights experience combined to his 5 fights. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that’s quite a freakin accomplishment in itself.
Calu
Brock is number 2 in the world rankings after 5 fights
Name another MMA fighter who ever did that?
All the top dudes had a run of at least 5 easy fights to start their careers. I hope he comes back and fights, just to throw it in the faces of all the haters.
PW, better lock the doors on the Wagon, we will have a bunch of these dicks trying to get on it in a year.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Simply amazing what he has done in five fights jay
The man is custom made to be a fighter and would be sad to see him retire for this. The HW division in the UFC is better than any HW division ever has yes it’s hard to beat Fedor, NOG, Cro Cop and Barnett back in Pride but I believe with NOG, Mir, Carwin, JDS, Brock, Cain and even Yvel, Gonzoga,Buenetello,Struve and Kongo the HW division is stacked with experienced and young talent like never before with many exciting possible fights to come. I hope the news is good for Brock to come back sooner than later and would suck if he had to retire because he’s the king of the most talented HW division right now.
hey look everyone!!
its jay and Dubs and their clown car full of Brock-ites!!! haha…and look! they all have matching brock jumpsuits and haircuts!!!
now jay....
Don’t get me started on the bogus-ness of the ranking system again.
Remember Brock is 1-1 against Mir, beat a born loser in Herring (who lost to O’Brien for chrissakes), and a way past his prime, undersized, ring rusted Couture. How does that make anyone a highly ranked fighter? Would ANYONE else get the credit that Lesnar does for doing that? Vera basically has done that; a win over Mir, essentially a win over Couture (that was really Vera’s fight, we all know it), and a win over say…Krystoff (which really is about a legit as a win over the current Herring)…is Vera ranked that high? No, Lesnar gets the credit because he sells tickets… should Kimbo be considered a top fighter, too? He sells tickets and wins set ups.
Would Nog get the same credit if he wins a rematch with Mir even though he also has wins over almost every legit HW EVER (except one, which Brock will never have either)? No, people just give Brock credit against a different standard.
Take out the bogus title (titles aren’t real anyway, they are made up by the org. It’s not like other sports where you have to earn a right to play in the playoffs during a high sample rate of play, like a season, which Brock didn’t earn a title shot) and you have a decent, not even great prospect in Brock. It’s true. If you remove the made up title from the equation (which was fought out of turn for obvious reasons), Brock is only a decent prospect based on his record. NOT a legend that his fans claim he is.
I mean really, how does a loss to Mir and a win over Herring (LOL) earn a “title” shot? And why didn’t the champ (Couture) have to fight the interim champ upon his return? Why did a 1-1 Brock get an out of turn, undeserved shot? Why not the myriad other prospects who had earned a title shot? Because…The UFC wanted the ticket seller Lesnar to get a title against someone who was old, out of form, and undersized while they could. I’m sure if Lesnar returns after 15 (or more) months off, he will get to fight the interim champ immediately. Why would he get an immediate title unification when Randy didn’t? Money, that’s why. His ticket selling ability has clouded the judgement of people into thinking he is a legend already. Sorry, I’m not buying it.
Lol better than any HW division ever hahahahahahahahaha
"An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason."-C.S. Lewis
Are you still living in the past dice when it was common for the best fighters to face kimbo like street fighters?
Like I said their is an arguement for Prides Barnett, Fedor, NOG and Cro Cop but my opinion is the UFC HW division is deeper and better right now
No, I'm just not delusional
Brock isn’t fighting right now. That leaves Nog(who was better when PRIDE was around), Mir, Velasquez, Carwin and JDS at the top. Compared with Fedor, Nog in his prime, Cro Cop, Barnett, Sergei, and Aleks. You can have the first group, I’ll take the second every time. The best CURRENT stable of HW’s without question. You want to make your boy Brock look really good so you want to say that he is the king in the strongest HW division ever, but I just don’t think that’s true.
"You can observe a lot just by watching."-Yogi Berra
You have a valid arguement Dice that was a great HW division
There are a few reasons I disagree though. 1) I think NOG is just as good if not better than his Pride days, some say his chin is suspect now because of one fight? yet he says he’s in the best shape of his life(and he looks it) and top it all of his skills are not lost becuase of age but improved I truly believe those that believe he is going down hill in his mid thirties are delusional and just trying to protect other fighters legacy’s. 2) Many of the HW fights in Pride also had LHW and MW that fought at that weight and won like Rua and Arona taking out Overeem in the first round, if you think they could do the same to Carwin, Cain or Brock? I don’t think they would stand a chance.
3) Out of the top guys that you mentioned fight in the UFC and I know your trying to protect others legacy’s but a fighter like Cro Cop does not go from great to a bum just cause he is losing in the UFC? And NOG losing hurt or not proves the talent level is high and competitive as Pride from the top down.
4) If Barnett never did juice he could easily be in the UFC still but was kicked out because he was a cheat and I think the proof that he just caught again tarnishes anything he has done as well as his status. I hate to say it as I was a huge fan of his but How good is he off the juice?
There is no argueing it’s the best right now but all time I think it’s a close call and my opinion I think it’s better over all not having the #1 fighter does hurt but I still think it’s better.
There are some inaccuracies...
That I’ll get to, but I’ll go top down.
1) You are definitely in the minority thinking Nog is as good or better than when he was in PRIDE. Age and injuries have not been kind to big Nog. Do I think he’s done? Absolutely not. I still think he’s a top 5 fighter. Is he as good as he was in PRIDE? I don’t think so.
2) Overeem was not a HW. The fact that Silva, Rua and Arona fought in HW is a testament to their toughness, not a sign of weakness by the other fighters. When Chuck was king of LHW’s over here, he went to PRIDE and got blasted out of the MW Grand Prix by Rampage. That doesn’t mean the LHW’s here weren’t good, just that Rampage is a bad man. But I think the PRIDE Shogun would have a very good chance against Cain and Carwin, Brock would most likely take him down and pound him out.
3) If you can’t see the difference in Cro Cop between the UFC and PRIDE, then there’s not much sense debating with you. The guy looks like a shell of his former self. Physically he is visibly slower and weaker. Mentally he is broken. Everyone knows Cro Cop was a bad man in PRIDE. I have my own theories as to why a LOT of guys that were beasts in PRIDE are now smaller, weaker, and slower, but I’m not going on a witch hunt.
4) You say that Barnett was juicing as if that somehow WEAKENS the division? The fact that he’s a ridiculous fighter anyway should only make the fact that he juiced even more incredible. Sure, it tarnishes his personal accomplishments in my mind, but that should not be a reason why PRIDE’s HW division was weaker.
Anyways, they don’t even test over there, so he’s playing within the rules. I would be willing to bet there are a LOT of fighters that you respect that juiced in PRIDE.
"You can observe a lot just by watching."-Yogi Berra
Well I respected Barnett my fauvorite HW fighter
Even when he got caught the first time I was a big enough fan to forgive but the second time I was ashamed to be a fan as far as the other fighters I respected #1 on my all time list is Wandy win or lose he brings it every fight. Hendo and still is, Rampage I liked him more in Pride he seems to be less aggressive, I wasn’t much of a Rua fan because he beat Page but I respected him, who didn’t respect NOG then one fight that NOG gained more respect than he should of is against Sapp though(who is one that is probally juicing) but he just got his ass beat down by lashley and even as late the african assasin tapped him out. Besides Fedor, Barnett and Cro Cop NOG has really had no others that could really have a chance against him….Henderson beat him long time ago but NOG was much younger and before the Pride days. Cro Cop was always a ify fighter but I agree with you partially not because of his skills but because he moves much better in a ring compared to the cage his kick boxing style is more designed for a ring plus his confidence is shot.
I didn’t know that Overeem was not a HW he sure fought many HW like Werdum and Sergie but I guess he fought more LHW? I knew he was smaller but I thought he was more of the 225lb HW so that was a bad example and I stand corrected.
Just because they test doesn’t mean shit to me either I don’t believe NOG, Fedor, CC, Hunt or Aleks did any roids nothing suprises me but his win against Couture was BS as are any of his wins to me infact though they makes those that have beat him much more impressive doesn’t take away he had a advantage of size and strength by cheating. Brock would own Barnett, I know my wrestling and Barnett even on the juice would be fuc$ed against Brock. Barnett had a size advantage every match and with his great wrestling skills was able to dictate were the fight takes place and I’m telling you Brock would not only stuff any of Barnetts takedown he would be on top of Barnett until the cheater tapped. but anyway your 100% wrong his cheating does tarnish the class of HW pride fighters for the simple fact he was #3 or #2 and one of the best …but is now known as a cheat and with him off the board that leaves only Fedor, NOG and CC all who have had drug tests done to them.
All in all Pride had 3 (if you want count the cheat) 4 great fighters in the HW div right now the UFC has 6 of the top ten HW fighters in the world including four of the top five! Fans want to protect their heros legacies I understand that but if you watched NOG now vs NOG then (and you can just remember Sapp wasn’t a good fighter as a LHW and rookie HW just made him look like a pussy) the only fighters thought of as great that he has beat in the HW div are CC and Barnett even Herring had good battles with NOG. NOG now as he even states stand up is much improved something he was unable to even use against lesser opponents in Pride were he realied on his JJ that worked so well then, he now has in his arsenal better stand up as him and JDS have been focusing on. Back in Pride besides the best most fighters JJ defence was weak now it’s standard practice something every fighter is good at and NOG needed to adapt.
Yes I do love watching Brock as you may figured out I like most of the MMA fighters that have a wrestling base. Doesn’t mean I love every fighter in the UFC I had my favorite in Pride as I do in the UFC and as a fan of MMA I must say the talent I see know is much improved and deeper than ever seen it. It doesn’t surprise me as most sports grow so does the quality of training and the talent level.
You can't strike Barnett off the list because he recently got caught juicing...
They didn’t even TEST for steroids in PRIDE so even if he was juicing he wasn’t doing anything illegal at the time. If it’s not something illegal in the league you can’t say his wins there don’t count. And I guarantee the time period I’m talking about in PRIDE they had 6 of the top 10 HW’s in the world including at least the top 3 or 4, the UFC still doesn’t even have the top HW right now, which means a lot. I don’t think Brock could handle Barnett, but I’m not getting into that. Fact is, PRIDE had the top 3 or 4 HW’s in the world, at least 6 of the top 10, and when you throw in Coleman, Randleman, Schilt, a prime Herring, and the guys like Hendo and Wandy that would move up it’s hard to argue the UFC’s depth is any better either.
"You can observe a lot just by watching."-Yogi Berra
True I'll concede in defeat in this one bud LOL
Carwin and Cain still have a lot to prove as does Brock as far as long term goes, hopefully he has the chance! I guess before they get put in the same class as those legends they need more fights under all there careers. But you have to admit it is and exciting division that may surpass the old Pride. I still feel NOG is better now though than he was in Pride he was always a good striker but he never used it and he admits he never worked on it as hard as his ground game back then. It looked crisp against a fighter that has done well against other top strikers such as Chuck and Vitor.
It's definitely got some exciting prospects
and should be fun to watch in the future. Still disagree about Nog but to each his own. I think it’s easier for your striking to look good when you have virtually no chance of being knocked out by the other guy. We all know Randy wasn’t going to hurt Nog on the feet. Remember just two fights ago Nog got tooled on the feet by Mir(and trust me I’m well aware of just how un-Nog he was that night; just saying). But like I said I’m not willing to write Nog off yet so I guess we’ll see. I would love for him to go on a run he’s probably my favorite UFC HW.
"You can observe a lot just by watching."-Yogi Berra
dumbest quote ever....
Puckhead…“Cro Cop was always a ify fighter….”
You just explained so much Puck head. So much. You really are delusional about the current state of affairs. You really think that Crocop was “ify” (spelled: iffy, btw)? LOL. Sorry dude. Crocop was the most terrifying fighter to face out there. For a LONNNNG time. Maybe the most devastating fighter ever. Even Fedor says it was the worst beating he ever took, which BTW, is arguably the greatest single MMA fight in history. Just because he is a shell of what he was back then, doesn’t mean he was always “iffy”. LOL
You so just “showed your cards” on your knowledge of MMA. But keep thinking that Crocop was a suspect talent. Sorry dude, there is MMA outside of the UFC. And for the record, pro wrestling is fake (I’m not entirely sure you understand that), WWE records and Japanese pro wrestling carries no weight in MMA ability discussions. LOL. Puckhead…you rule….you just rule…in your own ignorant little way.
Take a hint when 99% of peaple think your an idiot...you are. I know you would like to believe your rebel with your own mind
Sorry bud it’s better to face the truth and turn your life around befor it’s to late I’m just trying to help you little man.
Since when...
Since when do you get to speak for 99% of the world? You don’t. Wrong assumption #1.
When did I say I am a Fedor fan? I acknowledge that he is great, but stop trying to assume that because I think Brock is overrated that automatically makes me a Fedor fan. Wrong assumption # 2.
Is a single loss to Hunt all you have? Do you really think Hunt sucks? I know you have a tendency to miss the big picture but Hunt is a very successful K1 fighter (K1 isn’t a pro wrestling org) and had just beaten a prime Wanderlei before the Crocop fight (a split decision no less). Not exactly a can. Not to mention Hunt’s losses are to very legit fighters. But keep on thinking that Crocop wasn’t a great fighter. LOL. It really shows that you don’t know shit. He was 22-4 (not exactly iffy) before GG shot him with his own bullet and landmarked the beginning of the end of his career. With two of those losses to Fedor and Nog (no shame in that), and wins over Barnett (x3), Wanderlei, Minowa man, gold medal winner Yoshida, Coleman, Aleks, Waterman, Fujita (x2), your boy Herring, Sakuraba. LOL Do you know anything about MMA puckhead. If you think yes, Wrong assumption # 3.
Cro Cop WAS the shit
Sorry, Puck. I gotta stick with Dave on this one. You may never have been a fan of Mirko(me neither) but you’d have to admit-the man was good. He fell off really quickly so it easy to forget, but saying he was always IFFY is wrong.
Mind you he sucks now, so who cares what he used to do?
Good post by the way, Dave. But, you don’t need to be so condescending when making valid points. No need to insult others when you win a disagreement. Puck has no leg to stand on in this debate, and insulting him only makes you both look stupid.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
StrikerDave
I haven’t seen much of you lately. I had to read some of the posts you’ve made. That beat down you laid on Roberto a couple days ago….Hilarious.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Yeah...
Yeah…
I’m gonna be condescending to a guy who regularly says stuff like, “99% of peaple think your an idiot” and “STFU you don’t know MMA”. So yeah, I will put down a guys who says that to me. Where does he get his numbers? 99% of people disagree with me. Talk about living in his own little mind. For anybody to think that 99% of the people agree with them on a subjective argument is pathetic and self centered. Let alone one that exposes that he doesn’t know shit about MMA pre Lesnar. Besides, any guy who choses to represent himself with an avatar of a girls ass that he will never get is adolescently challenged.He has it coming as far as I am concerned.
Yeah, I haven’t been able to spend work time arguing with people who think Kimbo and Tito are good for the UFC and that Brock warrants HOF status after fighting 3 opponents in the UFC. Work has been busy. I had to be a little unproductive for a guy like Roberto though. He makes it almost as easy as puckhead to expose as knowing nothing. Almost….
Dave what else do you think about Puck Heads giant post right above here?
You only really said that he was totally wrong about Cro Cop, but what about everything else he said? I think it was good, and very well informed. He has some valid points. Besides the Cro Cop thing, I think I agree with a lot of what he said.
Good post Puck. I only just now read the whole thing, I skimmed it earlier.
Nobody said any of those things Dave, you sound hostile again. Nobody said Kimbo or Tito is good. If you read the threads about those guys on here you would remember that. And nobody said Brock deserves to be in the HOF. He is just a talented fighter who hasn’t proven anything yet. Give the guy a chance. Who makes the HOF after 5 fights? You expect more out of the guy than his fans do. Are you sure you aren’t a closet fan?
Do you only come on here to ‘expose’ people? Because you would have to be pathetic to do that. All of your history in your profile is posts where you call people out for stupid shit, are you anti-social when you aren’t on the computer as well? Puck Head put up a post that was well thought out and covered a lot of fighters, and you jump on him for being bias about Cro Cop? Seems like nit picking to me.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
He was an exciting fighter maybe the most dangerous striker
In the game all time with out a doubt back then (a legend of the sport)but his ground game was always ify wich is why I thought of NOG, Barnett and Fedor always being better than him. I was just pissing around with Striker who decided to start the childish name caliing in a debate I was had with Dice and lost and was already over LOL Striker what a douche LOL
Um Hmmm...
Right, Puck, I started the name calling (sarcasm). How soon you forget. Sorry, I remember having a debate with you weeks ago and you starting it Puckhead. Sorry, just because it’s a new topic doesn’t mean I forget your attitude towards me.
Jay– As far was Puck’s arguement. yeah, it is solid in a lot of spots in my opinion. Pride had a ton of established HW talent and the UFC currently has some awesome upcoming and even realized stars. Basically, I have realized that people here can’t be reasoned with. I follow the postings to read what people are saying but I will respond only when someone says something that is completely inaccurate and no one else contests it. So while I agree with Puck on a lot of what he said, when he make a blanket statement like Crocp was always an Iffy fighter….I will call it out.
Roberto has said that he thinks Kimbo and Tito are great for the UFC. So I referenced that. This is becoming another reason that I don’t reply to too many postings… everything gets taken out of context. And I have heard of people use the word “legend” when describing Brock if he never fights again. It’s laughable.
I would love to see Brock vs NOG or Brock vs Carwin
Hopefully he does and If he does he will have a true #1 contender to go against.
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