UFC Quick Quote: Tito Ortiz is 'full of shit'
by Nate Lawson on Jan 29, 2010 3:19 PM EST
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"No, it's not true at all. He's full of shit. Let me tell you what Chuck told me. He's gonna break his head open! Yeah, he's pissed."
-- WEC General Manager Reed Harris kept it short and not-so-sweet when Dave Farra asked him on X107.5 Las Vegas if there was any truth to the allegations made by Tito Ortiz that Chuck Liddell is a recovering alcoholic. Ortiz claimed that Liddell was in deep trouble with the disease of alcoholism, until Dana White saved the most dominant light heavyweight champion in recent history through an intervention. Harris was quick to challenge Ortiz's claims, saying that "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" is "full of shit." Whether it is true or not, it seems Tito Ortiz is fully in favor of refueling the fire these two once had between them. Let the games begin ... again.
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I completely agree with title of this thread..
Ortiz is indeed full of shit; and not in regards to just this one claim he’s made.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 29, 2010 4:01 PM EST reply actions
But he was one hell of a 205er in his Day
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 29, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
When was that?
Who has he really beat?
In reverse order: 4 winless fights in a row. 2 "victories" of Shamrock, controversial "win" over Forrest (split decision anyway), another split with Vitor (when Vitor was on the rocks), decision with a small Cote on short notice, two bad losses to Randy and Chuck, Shamrock again (yawn), and then his “golden years”: Wins over The Janitor, SINOSIC (LMFAO), Tanner (not really that great), Kondo (who?), and then a win over Wandy (before he became WANDY!!!! ), then Frank Shamrock pimp slapped him, then a split with Mezger and a couple of other nobodies. Not really that impressive. He just fought at a time when the real cream on the crop hadn’t developed and the talent level was low.
He may have had the title, but it was before there was any real talent in the division and his "major wins" are all split decisions and against guys way out of their prime.
Stop talking Tito, we all see through your BS. Just because Jenna taught you marketing (yep, he’s learning marketing from a porn star), doesn’t mean you are any good at it.
My favorite quote (after the Rashad fight, yelling into the mike)," You wanna see us do it again?"….you could hear crickets chirping until an elderly usher in the very back yelled, "Fuck no!".
Really?
It looks like a draw to me. I was at that fight. He may have really won the fight, but it is a sport, and they do deduct when you cheat in any sport. It’s like saying my basketball team really won on field goals and the other team only won because they shot so many free throws. The point taken was legit.
But he didn't enough said.
Yes, he got the better of Rashad but is he wasn’t cheating, he would have won. Too bad he did cheat, got caught, and then DIDN’t GET THE WIN. Tito finds ways to blow it now. It’s comical.
StrikerDave
I couldnt AGREE with you more. Tito didn’t win that fight. He cheated by grabbing the fence. And he did it more than once. If Rashad got that takedown, Shad coulda done some damage.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Thank Tito.
and check out this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuLTS40gW0
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
oh but he did get the takedown and was saved by the bell.
as Tito reversed him and almost guillotined him to death.
fresh like uhh.
funny
its funny how you technical you get with the draw, but put have something to say about all of his wins. He really beat WANDY and really beat vitor (not hear to argue if he was great good or bad just thought you should stop contradicting yourself)
by thegr8stkybrdwarrior on Jan 29, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
How...
How am I contradicting myself? He did get a draw with Rashad and he did only get a decision win over a pre terrorizing Wandy. And he did only get a decision over Vitor.
His “wins” over top guys are always decisions (someone else’s opinion of who won) and are often split decisions. And this stoppages are over suppect guys or guys not in their prime. They are wins but I’m just saying….
As far as the Shad fight, he had it and HE let it get away. His fault.
Nice post but I think he was better than average. A prime Tito was a good fighter. He is clearly past his prime.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
SD, agreed.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
See now we see what kind of fan you are.
Yuki Kondo is a true MMAer. A guy that hosts a 50-23-7 Record. Thats alot of fights. He was 29-8 when he fought Tito with notable wins over Sammy Schilt, Saulo Ribiero, Frank Shamrock, Pete Williams and Guy Metzger. He was at the time considered a very talented and ranked fighter. Shows how much you know or history.
Matyushenko was also very good in that time. people think of him more now about his mediocre fights vs mid level fighters and losses vs upper echelon fighters. But he is 23-4!!!! He was 10-1 When he fought Tito and after he lost to Tito he rebounded with a win vs Lil Nog.
Elvis was a mediocre fighter I agree. But when he fought Tito he had beaten Jeremy Horn who at the time was better then established now.
Evan Tanner was another strory. He was one hell of a story. Tanner was 23-2 when he fought Tito after beating guys like Heath Herring and Paul Buentello.
Wanderlei was 11-2 so sure he wasnt the wrecking machine he would grow into but he was still plenty good at the time.
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 29, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
SD just hates Tito. I am objective. Tito was good but never great. Chuck was great.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Who doesn't hate Tito...lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I really don't hate Tito. I think he is a moron at times but he is only trying to grasp at every single dollar bill left until he is dropped by the UFC.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Isn't the muff worth millions, he could live off her for the rest of his days...
What ever happened to hanging on to your last shred of dignity.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Valid point but Tito sees this as a business at this point in time. He is selling himself as the fighter you love to hate. You will buy to see someone whup him and he laughs all the way to the bank. I see Tito as Mr. Irrelevant.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ummm leeching of your wife or working for a living. Pretty sure the latter has a better chance of salvaging some dignity
If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 29, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Tito...
will never have dignity.
“I run a multi billion dollar business” – Tito on The Apprentice. Really, Tito, PA is a BILLION dollar business? Okaaaaaaaay.
I should start a website of listing his quotes. It’s amazing.
leave him alone, its not his fault he's three tracks short of a train set..
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
dignity
you people crack me up, reminds me of the guys I work with saying (while negotiating a new contract) for respect. I wanted more money and 100% paid for benefits (and got it), my wife and son respect me!
Who cares if he leeches off a woman who sucked a zillion cocks to get where she is today, I’m sure she has a lot of dignity!
you are a complete an utter tool kevin.....
where do you get off?? and are you even a mansomehow i don’t think so, nothing you ever says makes any sense, going to starbucks for coffee? watching mma with your girlfriend, and getting a bj afterwards??talking about your work all the time your fucking wierd..
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
and your never more than 15 mins away from this site
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Touchy and personal.....
Kinda uncalled for don’t you think??
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
sorry, time of the month, i apologise
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
He's just being honest I suppose....
Can’t blame a guy for being himself, 100$ says he couldn’t give a fuck what you or I think anyway..lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
(lol) in a non offensive way to anyone at all
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
your the king of awsemnessnessness kevin
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
lol ok im lost
What did I miss here?
1st off, I’m guessing freedom is a lady?
2nd, she doesn’t take kindly to Kevin?
3rd, when did this start and is the thread recent enough to bother looking up?
4th, is the war or words highly entertaining?
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 29, 2010 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm lost too
But I’m not so lost to think freedom is a woman. I think I understand a little more than you, worby.
This space for rent. Wanna bet on the Diaz fight? 01/28/10
well the pic is a dog in the profile
And ‘he’ said its that time of month. His joke threw me off.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 29, 2010 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
15 min?
im on my 8 mile bike ride right now and reading mania at the same time. ur very funny bro…i dont drink starbucks and i apologize my wife (not girlfriend) is an avid mma fan.
what i say never makes sense, yet my MMBB’s get minimum 50 comments every time with actual knowledgable guys agreeing. sorry u see something wrong with tito riding some whores coat tails (or labia flaps), good for him, and she seems to have no problem with it.
oh and tkkl (or whatever), ur right, why the fuck would i care what this douche says, he’s poking fun of a guy who is a mediocre fighter that has marketed himself into one of the highest paid fighters ever, just shows the level of intelect we r dealing with, not to mention he commented about me 3 or 4 times before anyone said anything. he has such a crush on me, 1 comment wasnt enough.
im at my sons school now, gonna do backend of bike ride
peace out homies!
lmao
by kevjack115 on Jan 29, 2010 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i wish i could ride and text like you can...
cut the shit kevin, your either between the ages of 9 and 14 and are trying to act like a man, a woman trying to act like a man, or a 40-50 year old man trying to act like a man, you will never be happy until you are comfortable with your self, lol only joking, have a good weekend.
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
There you go again....
Read my reply to you bigbad in the other thread and get the fuck off my posts. I’m trying to avoid telling you what i’m really thinking about you but your making it very difficult. Last chance hot shot!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
holy hell
This thread is world war 3.
How is it I count at least 3 verbal wars going on here and still don’t know their originates. Lol, I guess just once I get to sit back and read.
JERRY ! JERRY! JERRY!
I’m sure ill be dragged in soon.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 29, 2010 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you slept with my daughter...
your in :)
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair I thought she was far too wasted to remember.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 29, 2010 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Right...
You are the only one who is objective.
So according to you someone, who likes or dislikes a fighter can’t have a valid reason as to why they don’t like them. Huh?
From the Nick Diaz thread :
“Guys I love hate: TITO, Kimbo, Tito, Overeem, Shields, Tito, Aoki, Bisping, Tito, Tito, Diego, Penn (but about to come off this list), Kos and Tito. I am forgetting someone….hmmmm…..wait: Tito. I may have said him already. There is someone else. Hmmmm. I wonder who it is…..”
StrikerDave
Have a good day, buddy!
Sincerely,
Mr. Objectivity :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I don't deny that...
But are any of my criticisms of Tito inaccurate?
So YES! I HATE TITO but I ask again:
So according to you someone, who likes or dislikes a fighter can’t have a valid reason as to why they don’t like them. Huh? If a scientist has a theory and then proves it, is he non objective or are his points valid? I have a theory that Tito overrated and was never that good. I believe I made my case above.
OJR,
Thanks for stating the obvious, given facts and missing the point.
Have a good day, buddy!
Sincerely,
Mr. Still Valid Points
Really?
That’s a “got me”?
I say that I hate Tit and that my point is still valid and you response is a quote that I hate Tito and that’s a “got him there”? Where did you learn to argue? LOL
I am stating that I HATE TITO, that doesn’t mean that I am wrong. It just means that I came the the conclusion faster that you did.
Oh boy....
“Yuki Kondo is a true MMAer. A guy that hosts a 50-23-7 Record. Thats alot of fights. He was 29-8 when he fought Tito with notable wins over Sammy Schilt, Saulo Ribiero, Frank Shamrock, Pete Williams and Guy Metzger. He was at the time considered a very talented and ranked fighter. Shows how much you know or history.”
I do know who he is, but in history he ill kind of be forgotten. He does have some good wins as the sport was developing, but he has a LOT of losses as well, and to some so-so fighters. He really was never unbeatable.
“Matyushenko was also…”
Stop, I didn’t really have anything to say about Matsu. He has a nice record I give Tito that one.
“Elvis was a mediocre fighter I agree. But when he fought Tito he had beaten Jeremy Horn who at the time was better then established now.”
He got one lucky sub on Horn. Its happens. But he hasn’t beaten anyone else of any consequence. Elvis is the “Glass Joe” of MMA.
“Evan Tanner was another strory.”
Tanner is the same a Tito, he was only good because he was at a time when the sport hadn’t developed. He has few good wins, But is still a train wreck. He also had a loss the Heath “Born to Lose” Herring. You’ll never convince me that Tanner was THAT great.
Wandy was alright then but hadn’t entered his prime. Like I said, “all split decisions and against guys way out of their prime.”
Why would you even want to deny Tanner some credit, he is dead for fucks sake, so leave him out.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
so because he died...
he became great.
As a person, I don;t know what kind of guy he was. As a fighter, a bit over rated….that’s all I am saying. Hardly unbeatable. A win over him means little in hind sight.
Toxicology
I am beginning to think the ufc burried the toxicology report that never came out. Loved Evan, but would like to know what happened in the desert.
by TapedUpPair on Jan 29, 2010 4:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Something is up there...
I understand why he was so beloved. Something went down with him even if it was just internal turmoil. Never like to see a guy die early but he may have made it his time to go. Too bad.
Still a victory over him isn’t that impressive.
He may not be a elite fighter but he was a great fighter
I think beating him back in the day would make you a top five fighter and thats something to be proud of. Is he one of the greatest ever no. I think I know what your saying SF overrated as far as being a top three in the world yeah but a top ten no. hell man fighting in the UFC is something to be proud by itself to be known as one of the best even better.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
didnt he have the belt?
so if you beat the champ back then or ex champ yeh it was a big deal. wake up dave
by bjpennthereturn on Jan 29, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
try to keep up
He won it at a time when the talent pool was shallowest. Wandy just wasn’t the Wandy that went through Japan like Godzilla.
I compare Tito’s title years to that of Tim Sylvia, Sean Sherk, and Evan Tanner. If the talent was there…the title wouldn’t have been for those guys.
by StrikerDave on Jan 30, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Furthermore
Frank was a legend of the Sport and no shame in losing to him in that time. Mezger was tough and a very good B level guy back then. And thats when Tito was still Green. He fought and dominated Ken and sure Ken wasnt who he is now but they were dominating performances. He lost to chuck probably the best 205er of all time and most feared and lost to a Legendary Randy..
I dont see your reason for reckless Hating on Tito
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 29, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
His excuses alone are enough to warrant the hate.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
But not hate his legacy before the Machida fight.
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 29, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Why to hate Tito...
His excuses, his lying to sell a fight, his winless performances of late, his making MMA into a circus, his trash talk, his claiming he is the best business man in the sport, his inflated record, his pornstar wife, his reversing himself after any statement, his out date style of fighting, his “legendary” training (yet gassing in almost all of his fights ,he may have had above average training once, but the level has passed him by and then some), his predictable antics, his constant reminding us of his past glory, and finally…his stupid head shape and dye job.
What a bafoon.
Gotta agree with StrikerDave
He may have been ok, a long time ago. His antics have gotten old and over-done.
This space for rent. Wanna bet on the Diaz fight? 01/28/10
In other sports they retire at Tito's age, it's not optimal anymore to fight at around 35 yrs old.
you can go ahead and discredit Liddell’s every win now that all those fighters are worthless and over the hill too. It simply doesn’t work that way.
Tito was in phenomenal condition back in the day when he was at his best, then came the injuries and he went down the same road a ton of athletes do and now he’s old, his body has been through so much that he can’t perform to the level he was at and his body probably just needs to rest up.
fresh like uhh.
Tito’s whole fighting style was about pressure and being in great great shape so he could push through the whole fight, his only real skill where he was better then other fighters was ofc at GnP.
the old generation with Tito, Randy, Chuck and those guys are dying out, the new generation of mma fighters are coming in now with guys hitting their prime.
fresh like uhh.
As a recovering alcoholic who's been sober more than 4 years
There is no doubt in my mind Chuck has a problem! I don’t go by the book of “what is an alcoholic,” I don’t go to AA meetings and I’m not ur typical ‘success" story, but of course Chuck has a problem, do “normal” people fall asleep on live TV after a night of partying? I just think it’s really funny that Chuck has guys in denial for him, usually it’s the person with a problem in denial!
I do agree that Tito had no place to call out anyone, he’s addicted too….he’s addicted to using big words he doesn’t have a clue how to use, plugging himself for being super smart and making excuses every time something goes wrong!
by kevjack115 on Jan 29, 2010 4:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL, Kevin.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i love the tito jokes
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
Good points and jokes Kev
You have to be lying, dumb or in denial to not notice that Chuck has a problem, professional athletes should not have beer bellys, fall asleep on TV shows or speak incoherently especially when they are the champion so clearly there is something wrong there.
Tito is a dumbarse in denial, though him and Jenna have both made a lot of money so I can’t fault him for that. Both him and Chuck were great fighters in their day whatever the revisionists say.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Barney Rubble can sell fights...
by TapedUpPair on Jan 29, 2010 4:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm Pumped
Didn’t really care about this fight. But now Chuck is pissed so i wanna see him light up Jacob. Damn hype got me again….
If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you
CHUCK vs TITO
Do we think Chuck still has the power to put Tito down and does chuck still have the amazing sprawl and brawl that kept Tito from taking him down?
Chuck still has the sprawl
He showed it in the shogun fight, and even if it isnt as good as it was tito couldn’t even keep forrest down or even take him down for the most part of there fight. Chuck is gonna kill him, there first 2 fights weren’t even close at all, he must think that because shogun the #2 lhw and rashad the #3 or 4 lhw dropped him that he now has a chance, I can’t wait to see chuck knock this fuckin fool into retirement.
same old tito
i dont know if chuck is/was an alcoholic or not, but i wouldnt be surprised if tito completely made this up. this guy is ALWAYS talking. He talks when we wins (which he no longer does), when he loses, and when he’s not even fighting. I would like him a lot more if he would just shut the fuck up and fight like he’s supposed to, kinda like chuck does. As for the fight itself, both guys should retire for good neither can fight anymore
by theultimateufcfan on Jan 29, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions
We've all got problems
its not for someone else to call us out on them in public tho. it was clear that chucky enjoyed to drink, thats not our issue.
I hope to see Chuck SMASH tito
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
how dare anyone criticise tito.....
the man speaks the truth, and if you can’t handle the truth, get out of the kitchen. just cos the guy speaks the truth, is so humble, and reserved, and has pointed out the fact that one of your machines blew a gasket, and drank too much st lois bispo brain juice, doesn’t make him a bad person, now leave the whinging, cracked skull, bulging disked idiot alone….
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:02 PM EST reply actions
Gasp!!
No! I can’t believe it. Tito wouldn’t lie to sell a fight!
LOL let the drama begin
A bunch of Hype guaranteed I can see the BS on Spike already.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
they are both fighters on the edge……….. blah blah blah blah……….only on spike tv…..
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
sorry freedom
Something above I misread to lead me to thinking you were a lady. My bad.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 29, 2010 6:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
tito hasn't got time to sell a fight, he's to busy supporting the troops...
and rescuing people in haiti
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions
ha ha, pmsl, how did you get pictures of my dance troop
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
thats uncalled for.....
and it could create a diplomatic incident, i will be registering my distain with your embassy, don’t push me, cos i’m already at war with canada, for cancelling trailer park boys…….
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Awww, that’s a cute pup!
Those pics are awesome! Someone should put Tito’s head on Michael Flatley- “Lord of the Dance!”
no, definately cartman of south park
someone pls gif that..
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Lmfao! Ph this & the Tito one R hilarious!
by d*locc on Jan 29, 2010 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate to tell the doubters, but...
Chuck used to party, fellas…alot. Granted gentlemen, this is hearsay…but the guy was in Lincoln, Nebraska loving the blow and the college women…while he was engaged, no less. The man was living the life. I don’t know what he does now. Believe me…or don’t. Regardless, I was not as much of a fan after I saw it.
why?
you base who ur a fan of off of their personal choices? hmm, I guess I get that, I dislike GSP because he only owns one suit
Character
I have always liked cerebral, talented fighters. Chuck was a great striker against a bunch of grapplers, but fucking around on your fiancee is bullshit…and I’m not a bible beating right-winger, either! I just wasn’t impressed, man.
so you cheated before you were married????
kevin, how dare you???
by freedomthrtyfve on Jan 29, 2010 11:28 PM EST reply actions
chuck
Chuck smash his dumb ass please! make him go back to strikeforce where he can feel at home with losers! or maybe back to TNA would be better!!
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