BJ Penn is 'happy at 155' and 'too experienced' to look past Frankie Edgar at UFC 112
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Quoteworthy:
"I am happy at 155lbs right now and am looking forward to fighting Frankie. I have a tough opponent in front of me at UFC 112. I don’t think any champion can really ‘clean out’ a division because there are so many great fighters coming through all the time as soon as you beat one guy another one just as good is ready for his try. I think a champion just has to keep going through these guys, beating these guys and build a legacy. I am too experienced; I’ve been doing this for too long to underestimate anyone at this level. As far as my aspirations to go back up to welterweight and fight GSP again, I am going to have to wait. I do want to be the welterweight champion again, I want to fight GSP again and I am always interested in moving up, I have done that in the past, looked beyond what I had to do, and I won’t be looking past Frankie Edgar."
BJ Penn prepares for the latest challenger in a seemingly outmatched division as Frankie Edgar gets his chance to try and dethrone the Hawaiian at UFC 112 on April 10 in Abu Dhabi. The reigning 155-pound champion has looked nearly invincible since returning to the lightweight division in June 2007. In fact, "The Prodigy" has violently finished all five of his opponents in his weight class, including a submission win (rear naked choke) over Kenny Florian at UFC 101 in August 2009. For dessert he had two scoops of Diego Sanchez's face at UFC 107 last December. Is his return to welterweight a foregone conclusion? Or does Edgar finally have "The Answer" to beating Penn?
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Edgar will put up a good fight
Better than a lot of people are giving him credit for but he’s not beating Penn. And worse yet I see Maynard getting the title shot next and just taking an epic beating ala Fitch vs GSP. I can’t say I’m really interested in the Edgar fight but any chance to see Penn in action is worth while. I think after that though; screw fighting Gray Maynard, that’s a beat down; just let Penn have 6 months off to bulk up and move up to 170 lbs to fight a contender.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 29, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions
Penn had time to bulk up and..
it didnt matter, bring in some Dream fighters and believe it or not I think Maynard puts up a good fight……
how!?
What have you seen from Maynard that me and the rest of the world have neglected to. That fight would have been ridiculously one sided…..
by PSYQO78 on Jan 29, 2010 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BJ hasnt been at a speed disadvantage in a long time
Yes bJ will finish Edgar, but I am curious to see what his strategy is to deal with Edgars speed advantage
Here comes another knockdown followed by a RNC victory for BJ,
UFC needs to get their head out of their ass, open up their wallet, and start bringing in some top LW’-s from Japan to fight BJ. I would rather see BJ fight any of these guys, then any current UFC LW:
Eddie Alvarez
Kawajiri
Aoki
Mach Sakurai
Sorry to hijack
but I actually am allowed to post on BE. I’m going to go troll for a while.
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I have to wait till tomorrow to see if I get in.
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Trolling is fun. I really see why people do it now. I just started a shit-storm by suggesting Fedor hasn’t fought anyone worth a shit in three years.
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I'm watching that one
They seem to have low response counts on most of their threads. I thought that site was popular?
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I’m on their MMA Personality of the Year post right now.
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Another dude just came on to put you in your place.
Go get him. Don’t get booted from the site before you get some back up on there.
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He just got called a troll, membership won't last an hour for Dubs
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/1/29/1274936/2009-bloody-elbow-reader-awards#comments
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LMAO!!!! Nice Dubs...I'm still waiting for their acceptance...it's been over 24 hours though...maybe they need extra time to review my file...
You should have said Kimbo would KO Fedor within the first 10 seconds…
hilarious profile pic btw…
Fedor once bet NASA he could survive re-entry without a spacesuit.
On July 19th, 1999, a naked Fedor re-entered the earth's atmosphere, streaking over 14 states and reaching a temperature of 3000 degrees. An embarrassed NASA publically claimed it was a meteor, and still owes him a beer.
BJPennfan is on there helping out.
Can’t wait for the responses to him being afraid of the UFC
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Damnit, I think those cowards took that whole thread down. Oh well, they put up a ranking of the top 25 HWs which is just begging to be ripped apart. Ray Mercer at No. 23? Really?
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Apparently I'm not allowed in till 11am tomorrow...it'll be a good day for me on Monday.
Fedor once bet NASA he could survive re-entry without a spacesuit.
On July 19th, 1999, a naked Fedor re-entered the earth's atmosphere, streaking over 14 states and reaching a temperature of 3000 degrees. An embarrassed NASA publically claimed it was a meteor, and still owes him a beer.
That thread is still there.
BJPenn said something, now that dude is asking you guys something.
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Go in and make ammends Dubs
If I get in I will be ready for Monday as well. Don’t get kicked out before we get there.
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I had to go through the archives to get back to that post. It resulted in somebody using what I believe was a Lord of the Rings reference to insult me. This led to a big discussion of BE regulars one-upping each other in their nerd knowledge.
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lol...Monday will be fun...I'll have a whole list of queries and remarks like
What does MMA stand for?
Kimbo’s next fight should be for the title.
Forest won that first round against Silva.
Fedor once bet NASA he could survive re-entry without a spacesuit.
On July 19th, 1999, a naked Fedor re-entered the earth's atmosphere, streaking over 14 states and reaching a temperature of 3000 degrees. An embarrassed NASA publically claimed it was a meteor, and still owes him a beer.
Is that how they deal with trolls?
By bringing up fictional characters from a book? WEAK
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You guys see the latest response...
Apparently their banned,
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To all…P-Dub and BJPennFan were just on here to troll this site and stir shit up. I’m not going to get into any more detail than that but please refrain from any further responses to their few pre-banning posts.
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Yikes. I guess it was fun while it lasted.
by Canucklehead. on Jan 29, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
What was that BJPennfan?
Don’t care! BANNED!
Too funny.
by Canucklehead. on Jan 29, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I also think that us MMAniacs should be taking offense to Brent's assertion in his sig that,
BE is “SBNation’s mixed martial arts headquarters.”
Um, no, no it isn’t.
by Canucklehead. on Jan 29, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
dear Edgar:
Somebotty gonna get a hurt reallllly bad.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 29, 2010 11:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He is wrong
Its very possible to clean out a division, him GSP and Silva are proof of that.
by Lester The Pimp on Jan 29, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions
All due respect to occasional poster TimTebow, this fight is going to be a one-sided beating. The only way this goes past the 2nd round is if BJ is just toying with him to drag the fight out. Edgar does not have one useful skill that’s even close to BJ.
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He's got some good boxing
And I think he can hang in there for a couple rounds; he’s not an aggressive fighter more of a counter puncher and I think that style will slow the pace down and draw the fight out a while.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 29, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
BJ seems to play with his opponents for a few rounds, like Silva(most of the time).
BJ isn’t going to stop him in the first round because he doesn’t feel like it.
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Agreed....
Especially now that his conditioning is 10x further then it used to be.. BJ is a monster and LOVES to fight. I see him WANTING to stand in there and bang for 3+ rounds because he put so much work into it.
I can see him toying around until the 3rd maybe even 4th round… Depends what Edgar gives him I guess… I suppose if he’s stupid and leave an arm out or something it will be over but I see BJ by knockout/stoppage in the 4th
"He got to the championship a couple times but choked…no literally, he got choked..... twice." - Matt Serra talking about Frank Trigg
Couldn't agree more...
He did the same thing to Sanchez. After the first round it was clear BJ had won the fight. I was watching it and actually felt sorry for Diego. And it’s going to be the same thing here. I’m gonna say a 3rd round choke victory in this one. It’s gonna be hard to watch if you’re an Edgar fan.
he will definitely
Last a lot longer than Maynard would have
…….
by PSYQO78 on Jan 29, 2010 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
BJs obsession with GSP is starting to look like Mir's man crush on Lesnar.
He cant go 5 minutes without mentioning GSP. He needs to forget about WW! GSP is only getting better and a rematch will be just as one-sided as the last fight (if not worse). Another loss at the hands of GSP and instead of going down as the best LW of all time he will be remembered as the guy who repeatedly got his ass beat down by St. Pierre.
Mentioned this before...
Would really love to see Bj move up to WW to get a rubber match with Matt Hughes, if he is able to defeat Edgar; which he should be able to.
Would like him to close that chapter with a W, then to face a young strong wrestler like Kosheck before even considering matching up with St. Pierre.
I have always been a huge BJ fan,
but his new and improved attitude has made me even more of a fan. He is saying all the right things. Can’t wait to see BJ move back up to 170. If the winner of Koscheck/Daley gets a title shot then BJ should fight the winner of Fitch/Alves. Either way the it will be much more interesting than the next in line at 155, whoever that may be.
It would be nice to see BJ fights some good WW's.
He’s too good for LW.
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BJ should not get the winner of Alves/Fitch.
He deserves neither. He hasnt won at WW since ’06 and his last performance at 170 was embarrassing. But he is a cry baby bitch and his fans are crazy so he will probably get what he asks for.
by captainStevo on Jan 29, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
BJ fighting in a proper mind frame =
a loss for whoever fights him @ 155. And most likely a one sided beatdown. Ive got nothing against Frankie, same as I have nothing against Kenny or Diego, but I just dont see any way he wins. Will watch with interest though just to see the best in the world fight.
I actually kind of hope Gomi beats Florian because I would like to see that rematch. Don’t think it will happen though, a Kenny rematch would be good as well. I have no interest is seeing Grey fighting Penn though
Oh shit
I’m posting from my itouch!!
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Jan 29, 2010 1:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Good to hear.
Penn really seems to be in the right frame of mind. After this fight, I’d rather see him defend the belt against someone other than Gray. Maybe Tyson Griffin.
All Locked Up and Nowhere to Go
Edgars only chance at winning this would be to try to outpoint him in a 5 rd boxing match. If the fight goes to the ground at BJ’s bidding, Edgar has the scrambling skills to maybe, maybe get back up. On his feet, he’s got pretty quick hands and good footwork so he has a prayer of hanging with BJ in the stand-up, for awhile.
But, as everyone knows, he’s in the snowball’s chance in hell category. But just to show how dominant BJ is at LW, I actually think Edgar has a better chance at beating him than anyone else right now. It would be similar to BJ’s only loss at LW if Edgar were to win, because the Pulver victory would be how he would pull it off. BJ would look dominant for two rounds (maybe almost get a sub— Frankie saved by the bell) and then Edgar would squeak by on his boxing the last three.
Of course, BJ has changed a ton since that first championship fight. I was thinking about Edgar taking him down, but the only way he could do it would be if BJ got off balance throwing a big strike and Edgar shot in. But I have only seen that happen in the first round of his fight against Renzo Gracie, who got his only takedown when BJ threw a big looping hook and Renzo dove under it.
But BJ has improved radically since then. He never overextends himself with his striking now. His boxing is very technically sound, more so then Edgars, and he hits much harder. So good luck there, Frankie. Edgar’s only edge might be hand speed, but even that is debatable.
The big problem with all of the LWs when dealing with BJ’s stand-up is that he hits much harder then all of them. So after the very first real exchange, they all get gun shy (see Stevenson- dropped with first punch, Florian- tentative all fight, and Sanchez- backing up after getting wobbled in the first exchange). Only Sherk has had the guts and the chin to stand in the pocket with him. And then he got KO’d.
So, we’ll have to see with Frankie. Maybe he has a great chin, too. Sucks for him that Penn has a legendary granite chin. Sucks for him that taking BJ down could lose the fight for him, as well.
It’s looking like Penn is perhaps more dominant at LW as anyone in any other weight class. I think Marquardt has a better shot at unseating AS, or someone like say KOs has at beating GSP, than anyone at LW has of beating BJ. Doesn’t mean I rate BJ higher on the P4P list, just think he has a tighter lock on his division than anyone else.
Nice post.
Really liked the recap of Penn’s fight’s against Joe Daddy, Kenflo, Diego & Sherk. You’re absolutely right. Sherk showed the most heart by standing in front of Bj and trying to trade with him. He didn’t waste energy trying for a take down either. I know he still lost but I liked watching that fight.
Thank you!
I love this mindset that BJ has. Because this is exactly what I’ve been saying. Just because fans and pundits think somebody doesn’t stand a chance doesn’t mean the fight shouldn’t take place. Penn still has to go thru the motions of camp, staying fit, getting up on fight night and giving his best to beat his opponent. None of those things are sure things. That’s what tells us all who a true champion is. Someone who goes out there night after night and beats up anybody put in their path regardless of the threat they pose. Rack up some title defenses. Beat all the best 155 lbers and cement a legacy before you go up and try to get another belt in someone else’s turf.
I’ll never understand why everyone is so quick to give up on a good thing.
Penn's new attitude
I think it’s incredible how Penn did a complete 180 in the past year or so. He was basically a little tito ortiz last year and now he is a very respectable guy with a great mindset. I guess it was a combination of life experiences…losing big to GSP, having his first kid, turning 30, ect.
Just Do It
-Nike
BJ is really on top of his game now
Both physically and mentally. With that said, I think Frankie won’t go away so easily. I think he fights pretty smart and scrambles really well. I think he is going to fair a lot better than people expect. Not saying he will beat BJ but I think it’s going to be a good fight. He’ll have a better showing than Diego I believe.

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