UFC rankings/MMA rankings featured in USA Today for January 2010
by Jesse Holland on Jan 28, 2010 11:29 AM EST
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Our partners in crime over at BloodyElbow.com have once again published their divisional rankings for mixed martial arts in the nation’s largest daily newspaper, USA Today, for the month of January 2010.
For those of you unfamiliar with the process, here’s how it works:
"The rankings, which will offer a definitive perspective of top MMA fighters across all weight-classes, will be released monthly and published in the Sports section of USA TODAY, online at USATODAY.com and on SB Nation’s MMA commentary and community blog, BloodyElbow.com … The USA TODAY/SB Nation Consensus MMA Rankings are compiled each month by Nate Wilcox and Richard Wade of BloodyElbow.com. The rankings utilize each of the top MMA rankings from multiple unique sources. A weighted-formula is applied to normalize and distill the various rankings into one consensus ranking per weight class."
To check out the latest USAT/SBN rankings click here. We’ve also listed their top 10 in each class after the jump for your convenience.
What do you think? Share your ranking rants in the comments section below.
Heavyweight:
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4. Frank Mir
5. Junior Dos Santos
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Brett Rogers
8. Shane Carwin
9. Josh Barnett
10. Alistair Overeem
Light Heavyweight:
1. Lyoto Machida
2. Mauricio Rua
3. Rashad Evans
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Gegard Mousasi
6. Forrest Griffin
7. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
8. Thiago Silva
9. Anderson Silva
10. Rich Franklin
Middleweight:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Nate Marquardt
3. Dan Henderson
4. Demian Maia
5. Chael Sonnen
6. Vitor Belfort
7. Jake Shields
8. Yushin Okami
9. Yoshihiro Akiyama
10. Robbie Lawler
Welterweight:
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Dan Hardy
6. Paul Daley
7. Matt Hughes
8. Mike Swick
9. Paulo Thiago
10. Martin Kampmann
Lightweight:
1. B.J. Penn
2. Shinya Aoki
3. Kenny Florian
4. Eddie Alvarez
5. Gray Maynard
6. Frank Edgar
7. Tatsuya Kawajiri
8. Gilbert Melendez
9. Diego Sanchez
10. Joachim Hansen
Featherweight:
1. Jose Aldo
2. Mike Brown
3. Urijah Faber
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Bibiano Fernandes
6. Michihiro Omigawa
7. Manny Gamburyan
8. Rafael Assuncao
9. Masanori Kanehara
10. Josh Grispi
Of course, nothing brings MMA fans closer together than a list of divisional rankings. Let’s hear it: Who belongs and who doesn’t? And be sure to say why. "He sucks" is not a valid argument.
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Sonnen @ 5!?!?! F U USA Today!
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
by McArthur... on Jan 28, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ah...new rankings day...I love it
Let the hate out maniacs!
"You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea."
by Buster Bluth on Jan 28, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BAH!!! I HATE EVERyTHING!!!
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 28, 2010 11:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Can't please everybody.
No matter who makes the ranking, it won’t be universally accepted. I have a couple issues with the list but I don’t think anything is overly outlandish.
by RayRayJr on Jan 28, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rogers at 7? sonnon over belfort? aoki #2?
rogers shouldn’t be in the top 15, sonnon is a dbag and aoki would go 0-3 against ufc lws
by sac165 on Jan 28, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
HW rank is great!
so what has a guy like Carwin done that Rogers hasn’t?
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
idk but overeem should be higher than both of them
by sac165 on Jan 28, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you don’t because there’s nothing to come up with, Alistair should be higher yes but Rogers is still a top 10 hw.
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well he did knock out gonzaga
and hes 11-0, rogers is 10-1 and hasn’t beaten anyone with any credability
by sac165 on Jan 28, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ooh, get outta here man. Gonzaga had any more credibility than Arlovski? right. Rogers is 10-1 because he fought Fedor the best.
you don’t pop up automatically in the rankings just cause u are in the UFC.
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
at the time gonzaga did have more credibility than arlovski
its like praysing danny green for beating roy jones. arlovski has had his day and got cut from the ufc and has had to 1st round knockouts in his past fights.
by sac165 on Jan 28, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no he didn’t, he had lost to Couture and Werdum so how do you suppose that’s possible?
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fact is Arlovski would have murdered Randy Couture and he already beat Werdum.
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Arlovski never got cut
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its funny how UFC marketing works so good on casuals. If they aren’t in the UFC they are washed up or unknown. Arlovski wins his last fight in the UFC and then gets cut?
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Arlovski had a better chin, he would be un-stoppable..
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And if Kaleb Starnes had wings
He could fly around and jab his opponent once then fly around for 15 minutes to a W
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHA
Poor Kalib
"He got to the championship a couple times but choked…no literally, he got choked..... twice." - Matt Serra talking about Frank Trigg
by IrishMikey on Jan 28, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
AA is one of the most technical strikers in the division, it is only his chin that leaves him down...
I know that this is the most important part of the game, being able to take it aswell as give it out but imo AA is an awesome fighter. He was working Fedor over also till he got KTFO.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Problem is if you watch Fedor when he fights he keeps everything nice and tight. His chin isn’t sticking out just begging to be knocked off. And working Fedor? LOL How many power shots did he land? An experienced fighter like Fedor feels out his opponent. Waits till he gets his timing down and when they slip he capitalizes
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the heads up....
Would you believe i’ve never seen Fedor fight before and I’m actually just trolling and haven’t a clue what i’m talking about.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well you sound like you don’t know what you are talking about. AA has been KO’d a few times but i don’t think its his chin as much as he puts himself in positions to be KO’d.
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's his Chin...
That Tim Sylvia TKO was bad…
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah that one was bad lol But all it takes is your mouth to be open and your chin out to get KO’d even by a weak punch. I know a guy punched me right in the chin all out but I saw it coming and it was ok. But the guy cold cocks people and KO’s them and all his friends think hes Joe Frazer or something
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WoW you got one punch in the face and your the expert....
Gimme a fucking break.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously that punch wasn't half as hard as it should of been.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is his chin imo..The guy is a seriously good fighter. Credit where it's due.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
tkk with the gifs LOL good job buddy nothing settles a debate better than proof.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
by Puck Head on Jan 28, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Think people prefer no gifs, they go down like led balloons sometimes...
I think i’ll give the gifs a miss for awhile, don’t want to make enemies out of the friends that once were enemies…lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not true...relevant gifs are the best...the silly ones like yesterdays get boring fast but the one you just posted makes perfect sense...keep it up as long as they're relevant
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
by McArthur... on Jan 28, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Message recieved loud and clear.
Thanks Mc.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i also concur
that is EXACTLY what I was talking about.
Notice in the rematch that Arlovski was a lot less agressive and the UD win for tim was a snoozefest
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
snoozfest happens especially when two fighters respect one another
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
by Puck Head on Jan 28, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not always though
I don’t think Houston or Kimbo had that much respect for each other
That just really really really didn’t want to lose on TV
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or just invent your own thread for the funny ones like jay did...
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
by McArthur... on Jan 28, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, like you said, gets boring fast,
I’ll save them for the peoper threads, where they will be relevant.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually that gif is exactly what i was talking about. Mouth prolly open coming forward with his chin out there just beggin to be ko’d. But hey what does a guy that has been boxing for ten years know lol not as much as you sir clearly
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
First fight he was circling to the left throwing a solid right. Thats textbook. Second one he’s trying to throw a mad haymaker and he doesn’t even set it up. And worst of all he comes straight at him
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Boxing and MMA are two different things, your guard and stances are different for MMA.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And...
If your ‘Boxing ’ for ten years you should know how shit hot AA is at boxing, and if you won’t take my word for it, just ask Freddie Roach (sp)!!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Your missing a coma, the word stupid and a full stop from your sig....
3 guesses where they go…lol
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
Dude i said his boxing was textbook in the first fight. And i learned the difference between boxing and mma boxing in a gym not on an online blog like you. So to bring up different stances and guard has nothing to do with what I was talking about. And fuck Freddie Roach if he said throwing a haymaker with your chin right infront of your opponent while moving forward was “shit hot” boxing. And then the dumbass insults shows your true colors. You are a clown and a waste of my time.
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, I'm not even going to bother...
Good day to you sir.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
I said good day!!!
Sorry pal, that joke was too easy to miss.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
I'm done wasting my time on pointless gifs and arguments.
Time to show my actual ‘true colours’!!
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
offensively yes.
but boxing has two sides, and the other is defence. He leaves himself open to these shots that’s why he’s getting KO’d, he needs to move his head and tuck his chin down better. If he had the defensive skill of Rampage he’d be much more dangerous
fresh like uhh.
Exactly. Setting up your punches help too. And if you miss they are already off balance and that makes it much harder to land counter.
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 29, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
that always happens
Its based on your accomplishments at the weight class and time given. Anderson would pass to 3rd or 4th after another win at LHW. But with just wins over Irvin and Forrest he stays put. Its dumb at first glance but it makes sense. Even though we all think he would run through the LHW division (he would), we do have to see more for him to rank higher.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 28, 2010 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
But he should def be ahead of Forrest!!!
It’s a fn joke that Forrest is ranked that high in general!
Forrest is ranked way too high
Andy should either be near the top or not in the rankings at all, it just looks silly having him at 9 especially when Forrest is at 6. Gegard is ranked high because of his accomplishments at other weights, as his only wins at LHW are over Babalu and Soko and as good as Gegard is wins over those 2 doesn’t make you top 5 if you ignore his wins at MW and HW. Andy should have his MW success taken into account as well or just be ranked in his actual division.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Nog ahead of Mir is stupid
Im not the biggest fan of Mir but he beat Nog and is at this point in time def better than Nog and should be ranked above him.
by Lester The Pimp on Jan 28, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
There is a lot of failure to take actual in-ring results into account here. I guess that’s what you get from BE though — “Ooooh, I’ve heard of that guy, let’s put him #3.”
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
by P-Dub on Jan 28, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL...or "hey, his last name is Silva! He must be good!"
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
by McArthur... on Jan 28, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Crap, if the BE guys read this I’ll get an immediate ban.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
by P-Dub on Jan 28, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe I'm not banned..I didn't know they reviewed it for 24hrs...WTF do they do that for?
Maybe to see if I’ve said anything bad to them…hmmmm, let me think?
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
by McArthur... on Jan 28, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anton down at the bottom is a mod for BE. He’s good shit too I always read his weekly twitter article
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i asked him about my situation.
5 years of good behaviour on Mania and one week of conflict on Mania with BE people get you banned…
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I got banned for being sarcastic… Fuck em anyways. I would like to go in there and say fuck you, fuck you, fuck you Anton you’re cool…. and I’m out
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not banned...yeat anyway
I’m like tkkpal, I signed up for BE at the same time as Mania but I haven’t ever bothered to go on that site. I might do at some point if it’s quiet on Mania and I’ve got nothing better to do but I prefer the banter on here and from what I’ve heard you get banned by BE for really silly reasons. I’d rather contribute to a site where the mods give us a lot of freedom to say what we want like Mania and Jesse, instead of on a site that bans people before they’ve even had a chance to post anything.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Mousaii at 5?
he has all the talent in the world… but who has he beat at LHW? Babalu and Soko?
It should be a crime to get in the LHW top ten and not be in the UFC where all the good lhw’s are
by dbcb on Jan 28, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
yeah i think the people who made this list are TUF noobs
Every night i would pray to God for a new bike, then i realized God does not work that way, so i stole one and asked him to forgive me
Oh and of course, Maia being ranked at all is ridiculous
Belcher would kayoo him easily and he’s not even ranked.
by Lester The Pimp on Jan 28, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maia has the greatest jitz...
…of literally anybody in MMA. if it goes to the ground, not only is the fight over, but Maia will make it look easy. yes, his standup has holes big enough to drive a truck through, but if you think he doesn’t deserve top 10 consideration, you’re spending too much time with the wacky tabacky and not enough time understanding jiu-jitsu. just my opinion.
the biggest problem i have with this list is how they ranked A.Silva in the LHW category. his win over F.Griffin was a thing of beauty. He embarrassed the former champ. it wasn’t even hard for Silva. cakewalk. if that’s not enough to be ranked AT LEAST #3, i don’t know what is. and here, those quacks at USA Today rank him 3 spots lower than Griffin? PUH-LEAZE.
by Adam Wagner on Jan 28, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just realized ...
…. i called USA Today quacks when i should have been blaming BloodyElbow. what the hell are they thinking?
by Adam Wagner on Jan 28, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bloody Elbow does not rank anyone...
Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings.
We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 29, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
i agree
Maia deserves his spot. and Anderson should be ranked higher at LHW.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
by Two_Words on Jan 28, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You guys
Consensus rankings are rankings averaged from 15+ sites thats why they are called CONSENSUS rankings. Anderson Silva does not get ranked by some sites at LHW and therefore his consensus ranking drops. Guaranteed most sites will have him in the top five if they rank him at all in the LHW div.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
by Puck Head on Jan 28, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know Chuck is at the end of his career but 2 guys he beat twice are ranked higher than him. #17? geez.
by NateDogg77 on Jan 28, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
yea i saw that, Babalu and Jardine, Chuck higher than Vera is a joke too.
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vera
Is awful. Jones goin hurt him realllllll bad.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 28, 2010 12:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
he is awful? man i don’t know what you’ve been watching but to call him awful is a stretch.
Jon Jones is a high qualitative LHW.
fresh like uhh.
by RoBerto. on Jan 28, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thats what he said
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
by McArthur... on Jan 28, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vera is awful
Awful good. Im telling you all… keep underestimating him. He’s not been on a tear but eventually I think it will come together for him. Those kicks are damn nasty.
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Once again Chuck is hard to rank in the consensus because some of these sites don't have him ranked
Because he was retired. Remember this is an average of all the sites combined hense the consensus rankings. If sites don’t have him ranked because he was retired his consensus is going to drop.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
by Puck Head on Jan 28, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Overall, I agree with this list
There’s no such thing as a perfect list, so obviously there area always gonna be complaints. But from some of the sad lists I’ve seen before, this one is pretty accurate. The only changes I’d make:
Brett Rogers shouldn’t be up there.
Anderson Silva should be higher at LHW.
Chael Sonnen is too high on the list.
Diego Sanchez should be higher.
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
by Two_Words on Jan 28, 2010 12:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Who gives a shit at the end of the day, anything can happen in a fight....
Rankings Smankings……I for one have more important things to worry about!! All this is peoples opinions anyway, anything could happen in an MMA fight and there is only about a dozen or so (current) fighters who are considerably better than the average MMArtist, AS, GSP, BROC, FEDOR, BJ to name a few. These guys set the benchmark imo and People who actually watch the fights and know what a fighter has done and is capable of know that rankings don’t mean shit, again this is just imo. I never give a shit about rankings to be honest, how do people not know that there could be some guy working down a coal mine, or on a farm in the middle of nowhere with retard strenght and the means to beat any Fedor or Broc with a single touch. I just don’t buy into this ‘Best in the World’ or p#p best eva, just cause it says it on a piece of paper. Maybe this is just me waffling a bit, having a bad bad day and just wanted to bitch about something.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Another thing. A guy with no takedown defense but a high ranking could easily lose to a solid wrestler thats ranks well below. Its the worst mma cliche. But styles really make fights
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 28, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The rankings utilize each of the top MMA rankings from multiple unique sources. A weighted-formula is applied to normalize and distill the various rankings into one consensus ranking per weight class.
Anton - Help a brother out
Why would I be banned from BE before posting? Okay so yeah I Iashed out to a couple of
things that happend on Mania from BE ppl… but thats all like a week old and I’ve been posting to Mania for 5 years or so.
What’s up with that.
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bigger Zino...
I signed up there too but have not posted one post there. Guys here are more realistic and every second post over there rec’d for no reason. They also had a 24hr waiting period, wtf is that about???
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
im just confused
im not really much of a Sh@t talker… just been a little louder lately.
I’ve been posting A LOT more because work is slower with the economy chugging.
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YO BZ
Fuck that site!!! Why would you even want to go over there??? I had no choice when they blocked Mania from my job……….BUT THANK FN GOD IT ISN’T ANYMORE!!!!!!
yeah man great to have you, OD, VM back...
I really don’t care… more so just suprised that they would block me based on stuff that has happend here. And even then – IT WAS NOTHING. I just called out a couple of guys for being unoriginal or trying to steer traffic away from Mania.
Im 100% Mania. You guys and this site have cured hours of bordem.
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously tho...
Some dude posts the time of his last bowel movements and gets rec’d for it.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone trying to butter each other up and afraid to debate, it's easier to just rec and move on.
I only rec’d one post ever, Spinning Fat Kicks I think. A post about Fedor if I remember right.
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
by tkkpal on Jan 28, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What a bunch of double speak...hysterical.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I wonder what the rankings would be after this fight.....
"Champions are not made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision." -Muhammad Ali
god only knows with Mazz at the wheel...somehow Mir would still win
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
LOL
Mac that might be my fav post of yours.
I was Banned from BE before I could even make one post.
I'm flattered they know who I am but my first impression is that those
girls have weak knees. Mania #1
no way rashad should be higher than rampage the only people he’s beaten were a washed up chuck liddell and forrest griffin (who sucks and is overrated). Jon Fitch at #2 shows how weak the welterweight division is, it’s time for GSP to move to middleweight and fight Anderson Silva
by theultimateufcfan on Jan 28, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They will never get it right....
Griffin being there is INSANE.
Rogers being even ranked top 10 is nuts.
I don’t think Akiyama should even be ranked…
Aoki being #2 is also laughable. I would pay almost anything to see Penn demolish him.
"He got to the championship a couple times but choked…no literally, he got choked..... twice." - Matt Serra talking about Frank Trigg
by IrishMikey on Jan 28, 2010 12:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
who would you put up there instead of Rogers
Forrest by all means deserves to be there, but Andy should be higher. The guy continually fights top comp. give him a break, he belongs there and theres nor reason he shouldnt be on the to 10 list
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
by brendog on Jan 28, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Moussasi #3
i dont see rashad or rampage beating this gegard. I also see machida and shogun both having a hard time against this guy. Dana white has never once said anything negative about Gegard. He has been trying to get him as much as he wants fedor. I am stoked to see gegard vs. king mo. that will be a rediculous fight!
by Javster on Jan 28, 2010 12:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rankings have to be based on achievements not potential
Gegard is world class and will be a top p4p fighter when he hits his prime, but wins over Babalu and Soko aren’t enough for him to leapfrog 2 former LHW champions in Rampage and Rashad. I’d love to see Gegard in the UFC and there’s a good chance of him beating Rashad and Rampage but he needs to beat a world class opponent at LHW before he can be considered as being top 3 in the world, as having the potential to be the best isn’t enough.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
What do the percentages mean?
If you go to the usa today website they list % before promotion. What does that mean?
How the hell is Forrest Griffin in the top ten. He should be fighting Houston Alexander in a barn in Iowa.
Fuck you! I'm an ANTEATER!
by whynot6891 on Jan 28, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Watch him cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiocKUyE_-Y
Fuck you! I'm an ANTEATER!
by whynot6891 on Jan 28, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is garbage
I got as far as seeing Ray Mercer ranked #20 and I didn’t even bother reading the rest.
What kind of jackass would put Ray Merver in their MMA rankings, much less their top 20?
TFK
by TFK on Jan 28, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's a joke, Mercer isn't even a MMAst and can't get licensed to fight
That shows why most rankings are a waste of time.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
NOTE: What the hell is Ray Mercer doing in the rankings?!?!
For those of you who are not familiar with how we do the consensus rankings: we do not add any subjective opinion to the rankings. Instead they are a compilation and averaging of the top 20 or so most credible and popular online ranking sites. The goal is not to create an subjective ranking of who is the best fighter but rather to objectively document which fighters are considered to be the best by the online community.
Ray Mercer sneaks into our top 25 because he is ranked at #13 by FightMatrix.com a computer-based objective rankings system. They assign points to fighters strictly based on the rankings of the opponents those fighters have beaten. When Ray Mercer beat Tim Sylvia, Sylvia was ranked in the top 13. By FightMatrix’ protocols that caused Mercer to leapfrog above Sylvia even as Sylvia dropped.
Because most of our ranking sites stop at the top 10, those sites that rank the full top 25 have an outsized influence on the lower end of our rankings, ergo Mercer sneaks into our top 25. It doesn’t mean we think he’s the 25th best heavyweight in the world, it means that he beat a highly regarded fighter in Tim Sylvia and that caused some fairly influential members of the MMA community to consider him a top heavyweight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 29, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Griffin and Rogers = Has beens!
Forrest Griffin does not belong in the top 10. Wow he barely beat Tito. He got destroyed by Rashad and Jardine(Another nobody). All he’s got going for him is winning TUF.
Lil Nog is going to destroy Griffin…Mark my words people.
Brett Rogers is another one who doesnt belong. Alistair is the Champ in SF and he is ranked 10th lower than Roger…That bull. Rogers is a nobody. Arlovski should be 10, Overeem 7th and Rogers nothing. Period.
by ALROCKS on Jan 28, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Grim beat AA
Arlovski hasn’t fought since, that’s why he’s not ranked. Grim also gave Fedor a tough fight and right now is facing better opposition than Overreem, which is why he’s above him. If Carwin is considered a top 10 fighter then a guy with a similar record and one big win should be as well, especially after he gave Fedor so many problems.
How is he a has been anyway? He’s a novice to the sport, a has been is someone who was good but is past their best not a prospect who hasn’t hit their prime yet.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Holy hell, this list made me realize
Just how awful mma is right now. When it’s as pathetic as middle weight or welterweight they should just cut off the list. For real, for Robbie Lawler or Martin Kampmann to be on there is just embarassing to the sport. And what’s with all the people ahead of Frankie Edgar?? I definitely don’t think anyone other than Penn and MAYBE florian should be ahead of him, his last couple of fights have been really really impressive. Gray Maynard’s last fight just showed that he’s a stupid wrestler that likes to think he can strike.. So they put him at #5?? Naw man, nawwww…..
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 28, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Everybody has there own rankings
As far as how awful MMA is right now I don’t understand how you can say how awfull either of those guys are back in the day they would of been top challengers against Hughes and Franklin?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Ranking don’t mean anything anyway…. you got a #6 lightweight in the world going for a title. A number 5 WW, a number 6 MW and a #8 HW. And really out of those who really deserves to be #1 contender for the title? And the only reason Shogun is #2 is because his fight with Machida was so close. I would assume he wasn’t even top 5 when they first fought
Don't think feel
obviously...
that’s a pretty big “only reason” to be moved up to #2 in the rankings. What did you expect? Shogun to give Machida the fight of his life and then not move up the rankings?
by supernova224 on Jan 28, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
They are guidlines basically
Just like college football there will reasonable arguements
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
ahead of Bisping? no way. Akiyama who Belcher tooled thats a insult
4. Demian Maia
5. Chael Sonnen
7. Jake Shields
8. Yushin Okami
9. Yoshihiro Akiyama
10. Robbie Lawler
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
Belcher didn't tool him at all
He put Sexyama in danger but he got taken down and dropped a couple of times, forget the biased commentary and you’ll see for yourself that there was nothing wrong with that decision at all.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Sexyyama won that fight imo.
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 29, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
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